Re: [pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Bill Marquette
 wrote:
> Sounds like this may have been part of your issue.  It sounds like you
> had multiple machines acting as carp master.  Not a good idea.
>

Yeah, and downgrading almost certainly did nothing (unless this is
some extremely unusual FreeBSD issue) that rebooting alone wouldn't
have done. Impossible to say exactly what happened without having
hands on the system, but if both systems were somehow running as
master, a reboot could have cleared whatever condition caused that.

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Re: [pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread Bill Marquette
Sounds like this may have been part of your issue.  It sounds like you
had multiple machines acting as carp master.  Not a good idea.

--Bill

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:11 PM, JJB  wrote:
>
> Tim Nelson wrote:
>>
>> Check the 'Advanced Options' for any rules you have related to SSH or your
>> web host. You may find that someone set a simultaneous connection limit,
>> maximum new connections per second limit, or maximum state entries per host.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Tim Nelson
>> Systems/Network Support
>> Rockbochs Inc.
>> (218)727-4332 x105
>>
>> - "JJB"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Also, more info: we are able to any internet host but our www server
>>> without problem, and to ssh from any internet host TO our www sever
>>> with no problem, just ssh to www from the office behind pfsense is not
>>> working correctly.
>>>
>>>  - Joel
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>
> We didn't make any changes to the system. Well yesterday we added a rule to
> send all traffic destined for two new web hosts www1 and www2 over the T1
> instead of the DSL. The problem did not happen till today. Deleting the rule
> did not fix the problem.
>
> Reverting the system back to 1.2, thank the gods, fixed everything.
>
> Other weird things - internet downloads would start off reasonably fast and
> then wind up running at about 3kbps
>
> Carp got screwy fw1 and fw2 became confused as to which was which - url
> would say fw02 page would say fw01 or vice versa.
>
> What a nightmare of a day!
>
> - Joel
>
>
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Re: [pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread Tim Nelson
Maybe there are issues with your routing table since adding a second link? Or 
maybe you had both the T1 and DSL previously?

When you reverted back to 1.2 did you simply upload your config file from the 
previous install or setup everything from scratch?

After your deleted the newly created www1/www2 rule, did you clear your state 
tables?

^^^ Maybe those questions aren't important since your problem is fixed. BUT, 
some of us may still be interested... :-)

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- "JJB"  wrote:  
> We didn't make any changes to the system. Well yesterday we added a
> rule 
> to send all traffic destined for two new web hosts www1 and www2 over
> 
> the T1 instead of the DSL. The problem did not happen till today. 
> Deleting the rule did not fix the problem.
> 
> Reverting the system back to 1.2, thank the gods, fixed everything.
> 
> Other weird things - internet downloads would start off reasonably
> fast 
> and then wind up running at about 3kbps
> 
> Carp got screwy fw1 and fw2 became confused as to which was which -
> url 
> would say fw02 page would say fw01 or vice versa.
> 
> What a nightmare of a day!
> 
>  - Joel

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Re: [pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread JJB


Tim Nelson wrote:

Check the 'Advanced Options' for any rules you have related to SSH or your web 
host. You may find that someone set a simultaneous connection limit, maximum 
new connections per second limit, or maximum state entries per host.

Good luck!

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- "JJB"  wrote:

  
Also, more info: we are able to any internet host but our www server 
without problem, and to ssh from any internet host TO our www sever
with 
no problem, just ssh to www from the office behind pfsense is not 
working correctly.


 - Joel

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We didn't make any changes to the system. Well yesterday we added a rule 
to send all traffic destined for two new web hosts www1 and www2 over 
the T1 instead of the DSL. The problem did not happen till today. 
Deleting the rule did not fix the problem.


Reverting the system back to 1.2, thank the gods, fixed everything.

Other weird things - internet downloads would start off reasonably fast 
and then wind up running at about 3kbps


Carp got screwy fw1 and fw2 became confused as to which was which - url 
would say fw02 page would say fw01 or vice versa.


What a nightmare of a day!

- Joel



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Re: [pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM, JJB  wrote:
>
> Since about 10 am this morning, once a few ssh tunnels are up  no new ssh
> connections are possible. With the tunnels down ssh connections are slow to
> connect and sometimes timeout when connecting.
> could there be some mechanism that is denying access to multiple ssh
> sessions in pfsense? I noticed this sshlockout thing in the logs, could that
> prevent multiple outbound connections from passing through the pfsense
> server?

No, that's only for SSH running on the firewall.

> Or is there some kind of 1.2.1rc1 ssh bug?

No.

> Configuration corruption?
>

No.

State table exhaustion is a possibility. What Tim mentioned is another
possibility. What you really need is to get some packet captures and
examine what's happening on the wire to determine where things are
failing and why.

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Re: [pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread Tim Nelson
Check the 'Advanced Options' for any rules you have related to SSH or your web 
host. You may find that someone set a simultaneous connection limit, maximum 
new connections per second limit, or maximum state entries per host.

Good luck!

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- "JJB"  wrote:

> Also, more info: we are able to any internet host but our www server 
> without problem, and to ssh from any internet host TO our www sever
> with 
> no problem, just ssh to www from the office behind pfsense is not 
> working correctly.
> 
>  - Joel
> 
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Re: [pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread JJB
Also, more info: we are able to any internet host but our www server 
without problem, and to ssh from any internet host TO our www sever with 
no problem, just ssh to www from the office behind pfsense is not 
working correctly.


- Joel

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[pfSense Support] sudden ssh problems with 1.2.1 rc1

2008-12-18 Thread JJB
Today our company is doing one of our most important software releases 
todate and suddenly this morning for no apparant reason (no changes were 
made to pfsense) we started having trouble opening new ssh connections 
to our web server. We have ssh tunnels going by which we do mysql 
replication, and svn updates to our website.


Since about 10 am this morning, once a few ssh tunnels are up  no new 
ssh connections are possible. With the tunnels down ssh connections are 
slow to connect and sometimes timeout when connecting. 

could there be some mechanism that is denying access to multiple ssh 
sessions in pfsense? I noticed this sshlockout thing in the logs, could 
that prevent multiple outbound connections from passing through the 
pfsense server? Or is there some kind of 1.2.1rc1 ssh bug? Configuration 
corruption?


- Joel

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