[pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-26 Thread Nebojsa Djordjevic
I'm constantly getting connection reset errors trying to access
http://www.pfsense.org/ -- anyone else having the same problem?


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Re: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-26 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Nebojsa Djordjevic  wrote:
> I'm constantly getting connection reset errors trying to access
> http://www.pfsense.org/ -- anyone else having the same problem?
>

Was earlier, switch flaked out. Go figure we replace an ancient
Cat2924 which are ticking timebombs to fail with a brand new HP
managed gigabit switch and it flakes out within a month..

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RE: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-26 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> Was earlier, switch flaked out. Go figure we replace an ancient
> Cat2924 which are ticking timebombs to fail with a brand new HP managed
> gigabit switch and it flakes out within a month..

At least the HP has a lifetime warranty, where that 2924 will just go into the 
trash when it fails.  :-)


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RE: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-26 Thread Adam Thompson
> Was earlier, switch flaked out. Go figure we replace an ancient
> Cat2924 which are ticking timebombs to fail with a brand new HP
> managed gigabit switch and it flakes out within a month..


I'd really like to know, was this one of the old ProCurve models, or one 
of the old 3Com/H3C models?

Thanks,
-Adam




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Re: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-26 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
 wrote:
>> Was earlier, switch flaked out. Go figure we replace an ancient
>> Cat2924 which are ticking timebombs to fail with a brand new HP managed
>> gigabit switch and it flakes out within a month..
>
> At least the HP has a lifetime warranty, where that 2924 will just go into 
> the trash when it fails.  :-)
>

Yep. The 2924 replaced the HP again temporarily, ironically... it's
the last 2924 I own, used to have a bunch of them and they've all died
except that one, and of the bunch of HPs I have in various places
(16xx, 1800, 24xx, 25xx, 4000, 53xx), this is the first HP switch I've
ever lost (knock on wood).

The one that failed is a 1800-24G, cheapest managed 24 port gig switch
they make. I bought a E2510G-24 to replace it, will use the 1800-24G
replacement somewhere less critical. Though I know our customers have
at least 10 of those in production networks and this is the first one
I've heard of failing, I feel better with the enterprise-class switch
in the datacenter.

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RE: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-26 Thread Adam Thompson
> The one that failed is a 1800-24G, cheapest managed 24 port gig
> switch
> they make. I bought a E2510G-24 to replace it, will use the 1800-
> 24G
> replacement somewhere less critical. Though I know our customers
> have
> at least 10 of those in production networks and this is the first
> one
> I've heard of failing, I feel better with the enterprise-class
> switch
> in the datacenter.

FWIW, I used to sell a lot of HP ProCurve gear; the only switches of 
theirs I ever had to return were 1800-series switches (and _one_ 2524, 
IIRC).  A very small proportion, to be sure, effectively zero warranty 
service rate compared to Cisco, but relatively speaking... I suspect it 
has to do with the fanless design being slightly less robust - IMHO, 
anyway.
-Adam




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Re: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 06:23:07PM -0500, Adam Thompson wrote:

> FWIW, I used to sell a lot of HP ProCurve gear; the only switches of 
> theirs I ever had to return were 1800-series switches (and _one_ 2524, 
> IIRC).  A very small proportion, to be sure, effectively zero warranty 
> service rate compared to Cisco, but relatively speaking... I suspect it 
> has to do with the fanless design being slightly less robust - IMHO, 
> anyway.

1800 or 1810?

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AW: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-29 Thread Fuchs, Martin
> FWIW, I used to sell a lot of HP ProCurve gear; the only switches of 
> theirs I ever had to return were 1800-series switches (and _one_ 2524, 
> IIRC).  A very small proportion, to be sure, effectively zero warranty 
> service rate compared to Cisco, but relatively speaking... I suspect 
> it has to do with the fanless design being slightly less robust - 
> IMHO, anyway.

1800 or 1810?

We never had any problems with 1800 and 1810 until now... both as 24G models...
And we have a lot of them...

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RE: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-03-29 Thread Adam Thompson
> -Original Message-
> From: Fuchs, Martin [mailto:martin.fu...@trendchiller.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 09:30
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: AW: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?
>
> > FWIW, I used to sell a lot of HP ProCurve gear; the only switches
> of
> > theirs I ever had to return were 1800-series switches (and _one_
> 2524,
> > IIRC).  A very small proportion, to be sure, effectively zero
> warranty
> > service rate compared to Cisco, but relatively speaking... I
> suspect
> > it has to do with the fanless design being slightly less robust -
> > IMHO, anyway.
>
> 1800 or 1810?
>
> We never had any problems with 1800 and 1810 until now... both as
> 24G models...
> And we have a lot of them...



Umm, I'm not sure - I recall we were selling the brand-new (some models 
were fanless) 1GbE "web-smart" switch (no CLI), in 2006.  So whichever one 
that was...  I think I remember they came in odd sizes, including a 16- or 
18-port version, not sure if my memory is accurate there or not.  It's 
quite possible we just had issues with some of the first manufacturing 
batches, as these switches had just been introduced.

And of course, a "high" failure rate for ProCurve switches still 
translates to WAY more reliable than most other brands!  I can't think of 
a single Cisco-using customer who hasn't had several port failures, but I 
can think of several 15- to 20-year HP users who have never had a port, or 
module, or switch fail.  Linksys switches seem to be average, NetGear 
switches seem to be slightly better than average.  I think if a 
manufacturer is willing to provide a lifetime warranty, that tells you 
it's made fairly well.

-Adam




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[pfSense Support] HP 1800s - was: Re: [pfSense Support] www.pfsense.org down?

2011-04-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Adam Thompson  wrote:
>> The one that failed is a 1800-24G, cheapest managed 24 port gig
>> switch
>> they make. I bought a E2510G-24 to replace it, will use the 1800-
>> 24G
>> replacement somewhere less critical. Though I know our customers
>> have
>> at least 10 of those in production networks and this is the first
>> one
>> I've heard of failing, I feel better with the enterprise-class
>> switch
>> in the datacenter.
>
> FWIW, I used to sell a lot of HP ProCurve gear; the only switches of
> theirs I ever had to return were 1800-series switches (and _one_ 2524,
> IIRC).  A very small proportion, to be sure, effectively zero warranty
> service rate compared to Cisco, but relatively speaking... I suspect it
> has to do with the fanless design being slightly less robust - IMHO,
> anyway.

You're probably onto something there. To my surprise, the replacement
is the exact same model, and completely identical with one exception -
it has a different side piece on one side, and a fan. A noisy one at
that unfortunately even by managed switch standards. I was going to
replace one of the switches in the rack next to my desk with it, it's
probably a bit too noisy for that though.

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