Help: Removed buddies are not deleted

2008-07-31 Thread Louise Hoffman
Dear readers

When I right click on a buddy and select Remove, and the OK, the buddy
can still write to me.

How do I delete a buddy for good? =)

Lots of love,
Louise

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Re: Help: Removed buddies are not deleted

2008-07-31 Thread Evan Platt
You've removed the buddy, but for the most part that doesn't mean they 
can't write to you.

You'd need to add them to your Blocked Buddy list.

Tools, Privacy, add them in there, and change to the appropriate action, 
ie "Block only the people below."

Louise Hoffman wrote:
> Dear readers
>
> When I right click on a buddy and select Remove, and the OK, the buddy
> can still write to me.
>
> How do I delete a buddy for good? =)
>
>   

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Re: Help: Removed buddies are not deleted

2008-07-31 Thread Louise Hoffman
> You've removed the buddy, but for the most part that doesn't mean they
> can't write to you.
>
> You'd need to add them to your Blocked Buddy list.
>
> Tools, Privacy, add them in there, and change to the appropriate action,
> ie "Block only the people below."

So it is impossible to remove a buddy for real? =(

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Re: Help: Removed buddies are not deleted

2008-07-31 Thread Phil Hannent

Louise Hoffman wrote:

When I right click on a buddy and select Remove, and the OK, the buddy
can still write to me.

How do I delete a buddy for good? =)

Can you check your privacy settings?

On the buddy list, select the "Tools" menu then "Privacy"

From that screen you can define who can contact you or not.

Different protocols have different defaults.  Which protocol is this person 
using?


Lots of love,

Ditto.

Regards
Phil Hannent



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development

2008-07-31 Thread robert mcquirt
you mention the extremely long development time of pidgin is partly due to the 
fact that all your developers are not that interested in features such as video 
call/teleconferencing, etc. i'd just like to point out that if you are to be a 
serious contender in the im market, their likes/dislikes mean nothing. this is 
business and if people that work on the project (even if they're volunteers) 
cannot meet this commitment, then you should withdraw your product from the 
market as 'unsupportable'. don't get me wrong... i love pidgin. but without 
features to help me conduct business on a daily basis, it is worthless. i hope 
your developers will realize that if they're going to compete in a major 
marketplace, they need to push their personal preferences aside, because they 
are producing a product for the market, not themselves. 



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Re: Help: Removed buddies are not deleted

2008-07-31 Thread Evan Platt
Unless I'm mistaken - yes.

You ARE essentially removing them.

The point of most chat protocols is to allow anyone to contact you - ie 
if I knew your screen name, I could message you. So if you don't want 
someone to contact you, you are blocking them, or basically 'removing' 
them. Same thing.

Louise Hoffman wrote:
> So it is impossible to remove a buddy for real? =(
>   

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Re: Help: Removed buddies are not deleted

2008-07-31 Thread Louise Hoffman
> Can you check your privacy settings?
>
> On the buddy list, select the "Tools" menu then "Privacy"
>
> From that screen you can define who can contact you or not.

It just wonders me, because in Microsoft's MSN for Windows, it is
possible to delete a buddy.

Or that is atleast how it looks in Pidgin. When I delete a test buddy
on Microsoft MSN, it says in Pudgin "Has you: no". So I assume that
Microsoft MSN can delete?

> Different protocols have different defaults.  Which protocol is this person
> using?

It is MSN.

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Re: Help: Removed buddies are not deleted

2008-07-31 Thread Louise Hoffman
> Unless I'm mistaken - yes.
>
> You ARE essentially removing them.
>
> The point of most chat protocols is to allow anyone to contact you - ie
> if I knew your screen name, I could message you. So if you don't want
> someone to contact you, you are blocking them, or basically 'removing'
> them. Same thing.

Also with MSN? Because I have to approve a buddy before they can write to me.

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Re: development

2008-07-31 Thread Stu Tomlinson
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 06:42 -0700, robert mcquirt wrote:
> you mention the extremely long development time of pidgin is partly
> due to the fact that all your developers are not that interested in
> features such as video call/teleconferencing, etc. i'd just like to
> point out that if you are to be a serious contender in the im market,
> their likes/dislikes mean nothing. this is business and if people that
> work on the project (even if they're volunteers) cannot meet this
> commitment, then you should withdraw your product from the market as
> 'unsupportable'. don't get me wrong... i love pidgin. but without
> features to help me conduct business on a daily basis, it is
> worthless. i hope your developers will realize that if they're going
> to compete in a major marketplace, they need to push their personal
> preferences aside, because they are producing a product for the
> market, not themselves. 
> 

I hope for your sake you someday learn how open source development
works.

Regards,


Stu.

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Re: development

2008-07-31 Thread Phil Hannent

robert mcquirt wrote:
you mention the extremely long development time of pidgin is partly due 
to the fact that all your developers are not that interested in features 
such as video call/teleconferencing, etc. i'd just like to point out 
that if you are to be a serious contender in the im market, their 
likes/dislikes mean nothing. this is business and if people that work on 
the project (even if they're volunteers) cannot meet this commitment, 
then you should withdraw your product from the market as 
'unsupportable'. don't get me wrong... i love pidgin. but without 
features to help me conduct business on a daily basis, it is worthless. 
i hope your developers will realize that if they're going to compete in 
a major marketplace, they need to push their personal preferences aside, 
because they are producing a product for the market, not themselves.
Based on that same logic charities should just shut down.  They cannot meet the 
needs of every starving person in the world so they should withdraw from helping 
anybody.


Video and voice is being worked on.  If it was trivial it would have been done 
by now.


Pidgin is free and meets the needs of millions of users each day.  It is not in 
business and not contending for anything.  The world is not made up of just 
capitalist.


Regards
Phil Hannent






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Re: Google Talk doesn't appear to work?

2008-07-31 Thread Evan Platt
Thanks John and all.. I installed Google Talk,  and then my coworker got 
the invite, and was added. Closed google talk, and then he appeard in 
Pidgin.

Odd

Thanks again.

Evan

John Moore 3rd wrote:
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> Evan Platt wrote:
>
>   
>> I added the protocol as Google Talk, but it appears to have changed to XMPP.
>> 
>
> GTalk /is/ XMPP so no problem there.
>   
>> I googled a bit and found a link suggesting under advanced, I check
>> Force Old Port 5223, and change connect port to 443,  and connect server
>> to talk.google.com. My account is a @gmail.com account, if that matters.
>> 
>
> Port should be 5223 and make sure You also checked the box for SSL in
> addition to 'Force Old SSL'.
>
> After Your User ID the box below should show gmail.com as the Domain.
>
> I am able to use GTalk with My Gmail Account and with My Google Apps
> Account without problems. :-\
>
> Do You have the GTalk App installed?  If so, are You able to IM using GTalk?
>   



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Re: development

2008-07-31 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:42:04 -0700 (PDT)
robert mcquirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> you mention the extremely long development time of pidgin is partly due to 
> the fact that all your developers are not that interested in features such as 
> video call/teleconferencing, etc. i'd just like to point out that if you are 
> to be a serious contender in the im market, their likes/dislikes mean 
> nothing. this is business and if people that work on the project (even if 
> they're volunteers) cannot meet this commitment, then you should withdraw 
> your product from the market as 'unsupportable'. don't get me wrong... i love 
> pidgin. but without features to help me conduct business on a daily basis, it 
> is worthless. i hope your developers will realize that if they're going to 
> compete in a major marketplace, they need to push their personal preferences 
> aside, because they are producing a product for the market, not themselves. 
> 
> 
> 
>   

There speaks a man who cannot write a coherent, punctuated, properly
laid out email. I'm sorry I had to quote it all to make it obvious. Let
me know what your business is so that I can avoid it and recommend
others do likewise.

Remember this; Pidgin for you is clearly worth what you paid for it, so
please stop using it and go and buy the product you want. Don't forget
to ensure you also purchase the support you clearly require for it to
meet your mission critical needs. I sincerely hope that eats into your
profitability to the point where you need to crawl back under whichever
bridge you emerged from.

Meanwhile the rest of us will continue to use and appreciate Pidgin
daily and be very pleased that we can do so after the tremendous effort
put in by all the developers over a very long period.

-- 

Brian Morrison

   "Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud;
after a while you realize you are muddy and the pig is enjoying it."

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Modifying account status

2008-07-31 Thread Ally Blanco
Hi,

 

I'm curious as to whether there is anything in the works for modifying
the account status based on each account rather than as a whole.
Currently I can set myself to be invisible among other statuses but I
want to be able to specify which account I choose to be available, away,
invisible, etc. If you haven't had this suggestion before, then I have
one for you. :-) 

 

My suggestion would be to add an additional arrow to 'Change Status'
with a complete list of 'Accounts', and then after making a choice of
account, choosing the status. This way each account can maintain its own
status without being available or unavailable to everyone especially if
you have several accounts.

 

Thanks

Ally 

 

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Re: development

2008-07-31 Thread John Moore 3rd
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Brian Morrison wrote:

> There speaks a man who cannot write a coherent, punctuated, properly
> laid out email. I'm sorry I had to quote it all to make it obvious. Let
> me know what your business is so that I can avoid it and recommend
> others do likewise.
> 
> Remember this; Pidgin for you is clearly worth what you paid for it, so
> please stop using it and go and buy the product you want. Don't forget
> to ensure you also purchase the support you clearly require for it to
> meet your mission critical needs. I sincerely hope that eats into your
> profitability to the point where you need to crawl back under whichever
> bridge you emerged from.

Easy does it!  I can appreciate Your frustration but please try not to
flirt with the appearance of 'flaming' on this List.  We're all
reasonable, congenial Individuals.

JOHN ;)
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