Re: Issues with email

[Moz Champion (Dan)]

Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:

Eric wrote:
Recently I had trouble downloading email from my ISP.  They told me what 
to do to fix it, they wanted me to change my port to 445 and turn on 
ssl.  Well that didn't work so I set it back to Port 110 with ssl off, 
that almost seemed to work.


Seamonkey showed that it was downloading the message, but it never 
showed up in my inbox.  Any ideas as how to fix it?


Yes.  Go back and do what your ISP told you to do.  Odds are the message
you didn't get on port 110 was a note telling you to switch to ssl enabled.

When you check SSL the port should change automatically.




enable SSL and set the port to 995 not 445
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Re: Issues with email

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Eric wrote:
> Recently I had trouble downloading email from my ISP.  They told me what 
> to do to fix it, they wanted me to change my port to 445 and turn on 
> ssl.  Well that didn't work so I set it back to Port 110 with ssl off, 
> that almost seemed to work.
> 
> Seamonkey showed that it was downloading the message, but it never 
> showed up in my inbox.  Any ideas as how to fix it?

Yes.  Go back and do what your ISP told you to do.  Odds are the message
you didn't get on port 110 was a note telling you to switch to ssl enabled.

When you check SSL the port should change automatically.

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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Chris Ilias]

On 2/10/09 5:08 PM, _David L. Ross_ spoke thusly:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


if posters come here via the mailing list, then they can't find the 
previous postings.


If posters are here via the newsgroup, then its too much trouble to 
look for previous postings, especially if they've only downloaded the 
last 10 or so.  And in a recent posting of David's, he looked at the 
last 24 hours and couldn't find it.


Un, not quite. I've been on the MAILING LIST for < 24 hours. I knew I 
was likely asking a repeated question which is why I led with "sorry".


That's okay, we were all newbies once. Generally most mailing lists have 
a link to the archive on the list-info page. For support-seamonkey, 
there's a link at :

"To see the collection of prior postings to this list..."

And of course, welcome to support-seamonkey. :-)
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Issues with email

[Eric]

Recently I had trouble downloading email from my ISP.  They told me what 
to do to fix it, they wanted me to change my port to 445 and turn on 
ssl.  Well that didn't work so I set it back to Port 110 with ssl off, 
that almost seemed to work.


Seamonkey showed that it was downloading the message, but it never 
showed up in my inbox.  Any ideas as how to fix it?


TIA

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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:52:47 -0600, /Lemuel Johnson/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


:

To associate a label with another control implicitly, the control 
element must be within the contents of the LABEL element. In this 
case, the LABEL may only contain one control element. The label 
itself may be positioned before or after the associated control.


I'm quite familiar with the standard.  My interpretation is that you can 
use the explicit for/id method *or* the implicit method without the 
for/id.  Using both clearly confuses a certain browser near to our 
hearts and is, IMHO, poorly written code.


Your interpretation appears wrong as there's nothing forbidding 
combining the explicit with the implicit form, and I'm not aware of 
browsers which "get confused" of such usage.  Which browser gets 
confused?  Combining the explicit with the implicit form is at least 
necessary as fallback to IE6 lack of implicit label support.



But we digress...


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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

David L. Ross wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


if posters come here via the mailing list, then they can't find the 
previous postings.


If posters are here via the newsgroup, then its too much trouble to 
look for previous postings, especially if they've only downloaded the 
last 10 or so.  And in a recent posting of David's, he looked at the 
last 24 hours and couldn't find it.


Un, not quite. I've been on the MAILING LIST for < 24 hours. I knew I 
was likely asking a repeated question which is why I led with "sorry".


I liked the newsgroups but TWC dropped them and my other ISP portbrigde 
would re-number messages every few months as they switched providers 
which put my threaded reading out to lunch. I've basically given up on 
NGs for now.


David


you don't need TWC to access the mozilla server.  Its a 
separate server that TWC has nothing to do with them. 
Just create a new account.  The server name is 
news.mozilla.org


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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[David L. Ross]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


if posters come here via the mailing list, then they can't find the 
previous postings.


If posters are here via the newsgroup, then its too much trouble to look 
for previous postings, especially if they've only downloaded the last 10 
or so.  And in a recent posting of David's, he looked at the last 24 
hours and couldn't find it.


Un, not quite. I've been on the MAILING LIST for < 24 hours. I knew I was likely asking a 
repeated question which is why I led with "sorry".

I liked the newsgroups but TWC dropped them and my other ISP portbrigde would 
re-number messages every few months as they switched providers which put my 
threaded reading out to lunch. I've basically given up on NGs for now.

David



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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

keith_w wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original
question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready?
Quarter? Year?


As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is 
reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009.



Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked.

David


Hi David,

It is entirely possible that you're SO new to the group you haven't run 
across the multitude of posts talking about this, for the last month and 
more.


Robert's point was, this question has been answered time and time again, 
literally dozens of times, yet people keep asking the same old thing, 
"When is v.2.0 going to be released?"


They read but they don't LISTEN!

I don't know of anyone who would have a better answer then Robert 
Kaiser, but people still keep asking, just like he had never even spoken 
a word!


He used to say, "When it's ready" but the same question keeps up, 
continually.


Considering the intelligence of 'the masses' it's little surprising.

Welcome aboard, David.

keith whaley


if posters come here via the mailing list, then they 
can't find the previous postings.


If posters are here via the newsgroup, then its too 
much trouble to look for previous postings, especially 
if they've only downloaded the last 10 or so.  And in a 
recent posting of David's, he looked at the last 24 
hours and couldn't find it.


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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Lemuel Johnson]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:45:49 -0600, /Lemuel Johnson/:

That's at best poorly written code.  They've included the search text 
input field *inside* the text label for the input field, i.e.,


Enter keywords or serial number type="TEXT" id="FIELDNAME">


It should be:
Enter keywords or serial numbertype="TEXT" id="FIELDNAME">


I don't know where you get that information.  Input fields are just fine 
nested in a label.  The label is implicitly associated with the form 
field and there's no need for 'id' and 'for' attributes that way 
:


To associate a label with another control implicitly, the control 
element must be within the contents of the LABEL element. In this 
case, the LABEL may only contain one control element. The label itself 
may be positioned before or after the associated control.




I'm quite familiar with the standard.  My interpretation is that you can 
use the explicit for/id method *or* the implicit method without the 
for/id.  Using both clearly confuses a certain browser near to our 
hearts and is, IMHO, poorly written code.


But we digress...

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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[David L. Ross]

keith_w wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original
question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready?
Quarter? Year?


As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is 
reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009.



Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked.

David


Hi David,

It is entirely possible that you're SO new to the group you haven't run 
across the multitude of posts talking about this, for the last month and 
more.


<24 hours.



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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[David L. Ross]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original
question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready?
Quarter? Year?


As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is 
reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009.


Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked.

David



go to the newsgroup and you'll find it: mozilla.support.seamonkey which 
is on the server: news.mozilla.org or visit google groups: 
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/topics


Time Warner has made news groups a hassle and I haven't bothered to work around 
them.

I'll check out the google groups.

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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[keith_w]

David L. Ross wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original
question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready?
Quarter? Year?


As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is 
reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009.



Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked.

David


Hi David,

It is entirely possible that you're SO new to the group you haven't run across 
the multitude of posts talking about this, for the last month and more.


Robert's point was, this question has been answered time and time again, 
literally dozens of times, yet people keep asking the same old thing, "When is 
v.2.0 going to be released?"


They read but they don't LISTEN!

I don't know of anyone who would have a better answer then Robert Kaiser, but 
people still keep asking, just like he had never even spoken a word!


He used to say, "When it's ready" but the same question keeps up, continually.

Considering the intelligence of 'the masses' it's little surprising.

Welcome aboard, David.

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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

David L. Ross wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original
question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready?
Quarter? Year?


As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is 
reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009.


Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked.

David



go to the newsgroup and you'll find it: 
mozilla.support.seamonkey which is on the server: 
news.mozilla.org or visit google groups: 
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/topics


there's been lots of announcements in the last few days 
about it.


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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[David L. Ross]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David L. Ross wrote:

Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original
question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready?
Quarter? Year?


As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is 
reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009.


Sorry. I'm new to this list and didn't see it anywhere else I looked.

David

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Re: custom filesystem folders

[Gerald Ross]

Cristian Zoicas wrote:

Hello all,

I use SeaMonkey 1.1.12 on Ubuntu Linux and I want to get the following
behaviour from the SeaMonkey mail client:

Some of the  mail messages I receive  I want to save them  in a custom
folder in my home directory. Let's call it here "important-mail".  The
"important-mail" folder MUST NOT  be located under the "Local Folders"
folder which is accessible from the mail client interface but  must be
accessible from  the folder pane in  the same way we  access our usual
folders. Thus, saving  email messages  in the  filesystem should  be a
simple  drag   &  drop  operation   instead  of  a   boring  File/Save
as/etc. Also reading  messages should be simpler then  reading a saved
message since  I don't  have to  open them by  going through  the File
menu, but will be enough  to click on "important-mail" folder and then
on the message subject.

Solutions for Seamonkey on MS Windows are welcomed too.

regards
cristi

If I'm understanding you right, you can right click on your email 
address and add a new folder. I have two: Temp and Keepers. I drag 
emails about orders etc into Temp until the order is received. Keepers 
is for later archiving as .txt or .eml files on another hard drive.


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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Robert Kaiser]

David L. Ross wrote:

Apparently the new SM v2 builds work better. And back to my original
question. Is there a current goal date when this might be ready?
Quarter? Year?


As I keep repeating, but it looks like only one person at a time is 
reading, our current plan is still to ship in second quarter of 2009.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:13:28 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

for what its worth, I can't enter anything in that 
field with Flock, Netscape 8 and 9, Firefox 2, or 
K-Meleon.


But it will with FF 3, and Songbird.  I guess its 
because of the newer code.


Err, Flock 2.0 is based on Firefox 3.0 so I would think it's just bad
browser sniffing.

Phil


I didn't know flock 2 was out.  I was still using 
1.2.7, and when I clicked on update it said I have the 
newest.


Anyways, I tried it in flock 2 and it works.

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Re: custom filesystem folders

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Cristian Zoicas wrote:

Hello all,

I use SeaMonkey 1.1.12 on Ubuntu Linux and I want to get the following
behaviour from the SeaMonkey mail client:

Some of the  mail messages I receive  I want to save them  in a custom
folder in my home directory. Let's call it here "important-mail".  The
"important-mail" folder MUST NOT  be located under the "Local Folders"
folder which is accessible from the mail client interface but  must be
accessible from  the folder pane in  the same way we  access our usual
folders. Thus, saving  email messages  in the  filesystem should  be a
simple  drag   &  drop  operation   instead  of  a   boring  File/Save
as/etc. Also reading  messages should be simpler then  reading a saved
message since  I don't  have to  open them by  going through  the File
menu, but will be enough  to click on "important-mail" folder and then
on the message subject.

Solutions for Seamonkey on MS Windows are welcomed too.

regards
cristi



what you're talking about can be done.  Have you tried it?

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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:45:49 -0600, /Lemuel Johnson/:

That's at best poorly written code.  They've included the search text 
input field *inside* the text label for the input field, i.e.,


Enter keywords or serial number type="TEXT" id="FIELDNAME">


It should be:
Enter keywords or serial numbertype="TEXT" id="FIELDNAME">


I don't know where you get that information.  Input fields are just 
fine nested in a label.  The label is implicitly associated with the 
form field and there's no need for 'id' and 'for' attributes that 
way :


To associate a label with another control implicitly, the control 
element must be within the contents of the LABEL element. In this 
case, the LABEL may only contain one control element. The label 
itself may be positioned before or after the associated control.


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Re: one of the Mozilla devs

[Philip Chee]

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:55:04 -0500, Gerald Ross wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> I was looking for something, and I came across this 
>> instead.  For those of you who want to know what Robert 
>> Kaiser looks like: 
>> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50o2j_enrobertkaiser_tech
>> 
> That was great. Now if I only could visualize a purple hippo.  Wearing 
> a cape, perhaps?



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Re: FF v3 into SeaMonkey

[Philip Chee]

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:13:28 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

> for what its worth, I can't enter anything in that 
> field with Flock, Netscape 8 and 9, Firefox 2, or 
> K-Meleon.
> 
> But it will with FF 3, and Songbird.  I guess its 
> because of the newer code.

Err, Flock 2.0 is based on Firefox 3.0 so I would think it's just bad
browser sniffing.

Phil

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custom filesystem folders

[Cristian Zoicas]

Hello all,

I use SeaMonkey 1.1.12 on Ubuntu Linux and I want to get the following
behaviour from the SeaMonkey mail client:

Some of the  mail messages I receive  I want to save them  in a custom
folder in my home directory. Let's call it here "important-mail".  The
"important-mail" folder MUST NOT  be located under the "Local Folders"
folder which is accessible from the mail client interface but  must be
accessible from  the folder pane in  the same way we  access our usual
folders. Thus, saving  email messages  in the  filesystem should  be a
simple  drag   &  drop  operation   instead  of  a   boring  File/Save
as/etc. Also reading  messages should be simpler then  reading a saved
message since  I don't  have to  open them by  going through  the File
menu, but will be enough  to click on "important-mail" folder and then
on the message subject.

Solutions for Seamonkey on MS Windows are welcomed too.

regards
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Re: Click here to remove all expired articles

[Ray_Net]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


No way  expired articles are still there.

Peter (Potamus)  what's your idea ? a problem at the news-server 
of my isp ?


sorry, but I don't know why the postings are still there.  They should 
be removed if you click on that "remove messages".


> So, a couple of things to try.  First, close SM, then look at the .rc 
> file for that server. Its located in the News section of the profile. 
 > Open that file, and in it you will find a line like this:

> mozilla.support.seamonkey: 1-36817,36819-36827
> What you want to do it remove everything between 1- and the last
> number, so you will have this:
> mozilla.support.seamonkey: 1-36827
> restart SM.  Did this fix everything?

The content of the .rc file is:
  scarlet.be.general: 1-1210
  scarlet.be.announce: 1-21
  alt.binaries.fr.humour: 1-272247
therefore this suggestion is not applicable.



> If not, then try clicking on the remove messages link.

As explained before clicking for an expired message in 
scarlet.be.general doesnot work




> If it still didn't work, then close SM,
> and remove the *.msf file for that newsgroup. Restart SM.
> Did that work?

Sorry - noway the "expired messages are still present with the remove 
messages link.

This link doesnot clean the list



> If not, then I have no idea from here on out.

If a developper is interested by this case, i let this situation in this 
status for one week.
After that i think that i will be able to remove those sticky messages 
by modifying the retention policy of this group.


Thanks Peter for helping me.
I just have an idea about a possible reason of the problem:
This is the only group where i have set tne retention policy to:
"Keep -All Messages" - Therefore it could be a SM problem.
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Re: one of the Mozilla devs

[Gerald Ross]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
I was looking for something, and I came across this 
instead.  For those of you who want to know what Robert 
Kaiser looks like: 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50o2j_enrobertkaiser_tech


That was great. Now if I only could visualize a purple hippo.  Wearing 
a cape, perhaps?


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