Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Am 17.03.2010 03:34, schrieb Robert Kaiser: SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. Will there be a Seamonkey 2.X version that refrains from duplicating the whole imap mailstore into the profile without explicit consent from the user? We have hundreds GB mailstores and roaming profiles so this simply doesn't work for us. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=544740 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505759 -- Matthias ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Matthias Kahlert wrote, On 3/18/2010 8:47 AM: Will there be a Seamonkey 2.X version that refrains from duplicating the whole imap mailstore into the profile without explicit consent from the user? Easy: for each Mail account settings, in synchronization and storage uncheck the keep message for this account on this computer ...But I suspect you know that already and want some sort of automated migration preset that takes care of this ? Dominique ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: I don't say why 1.1.19 shouldn't work in every place where 1.1.18 does work. Sorry, typo, I meant: I don't _know_ why 1.1.19 shouldn't work in every place where 1.1.18 does work. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Ant wrote: On 3/16/2010 9:05 PM PT, Leonidas Jones typed: A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. Wow, how and why did v1.1.19 require higher Mac OS X versions? It's shouldn't. I see no reason why it would. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Benoit Renard wrote: I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x. No, 1.1.19 is the most insignificant part of the announcement, even though it's the reason why we're timing it to be right now. I wouldn't dare to make the release of a version the major point of an announcement if it's known to have security vulnerabilities right from the first second it's released (like websites being able to request and get your first saved password). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Testing For SeaMonkey 2.0.4 - help wanted!
Hi everyone, All the builds for SeaMonkey 2.0.4 have been created (updates are in work right now, will be available on the betatest channel soon, going to beta as soon as I have a few reports of the builds not being busted), so it's time for starting tests on them to ensure we get an update out there that is worth shipping to all our 2.0.x users. Please help us testing the Windows installers, Mac disk images and Linux packages, all available in 22 languages including US English. The packages are available in the linux-i686, mac, and win32 subdirectories of http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0.4-candidates/build2/ Once again, the linux-x86_64 build is NOT OFFICIAL and NOT ENDORSED. It will be listed as contributed build even if it was technically created by our build system, and it will be treated in no other way than usual contributed builds. In other words, it's just an experiment. Please use the builds for any usage patterns you can think of, possibly also doing a https://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi?test_run_id=7 smoketest run on them. I know that Litmus run isn't perfect, but it's the best we have right now. Localizers, please test the builds in your locale, any updates can be taken with further sign-offs (in the new tool) for 2.0.5 and future updates. If no problems come up in testing those builds, they will go live as the official 2.0.4 on Tuesday, March 30, in sync with Firefox and Thunderbird updates that will fix the same set of security issues. The list of bugs fixed in this update contains 89 public reports thus far, 14 security issues are currently hidden and only to be disclosed upon release of our updates. The bug query to find the issues is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=Coreproduct=Toolkitproduct=MailNews+Coreproduct=SeaMonkeyproduct=Other+Applicationsfield0-0-0=keywordstype0-0-0=anywordsvalue0-0-0=fixed-seamonkey2.0.4field0-0-1=cf_status_191type0-0-1=anywordsvalue0-0-1=.9-fixed About 10 of those are fixes specific to SeaMonkey, 20 more in the MailNews code we share with Thunderbird, look for bugs in that list that are filed against the SeaMonkey or MailNews Core products. A number of those fixes were done due to feedback and crash reports from 2.0.x, we hope we can make the further experience of that series even smoother with those. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.1: Workaround for remote timestamp on downloads?
Oliver Naumann wrote: As proposed in bug 178506, downloaded files are now assigned the last- modified timestamp from the remote server. Nevermind. Luckily, this was really easy to fix with an extension. Oliver ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Error in SM v2.0.3 in this web page?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Bernard Mercier wrote: Paul B. Gallagher a pensé très fort : Bernard Mercier wrote: Paul B. Gallagher a écrit : Bernard Mercier wrote: Bernard Mercier vient de nous annoncer : Phillip Pi a exposé le 3/10/2010 : Hello. Is anyone else getting You do not have the roles required to access this portlet. error at http://www.needforspeed.com/web/world/news/-/nfsblogs/1273547 URL? My 64 bit Dell OEM W7 HP's IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :) In Linux SM 2.0.2 works only when cookies set to except all, or from this site only. Typo, should read SM 2.0.3 Speaking of typos, I love the other one (except all). If you set cookies to except all, that would mean none, right? Tout de même, j'vous ai compris. ;-) -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. Vous faites de la fine politique. ;-) Another typo. except = accept. (phonetically the same.) Hope you agree now. ^^ Some would say the vowel in the first syllable is slightly different (e as in bet vs. a as in bat), but without stress or a conscious effort to differentiate, they merge as schwa or i as in bit. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. To my ears, the same. ;-) To my ears, bet and bat have different vowels. If you're equating those, you're running counter to a thousand years of English history. (I do recognize that nonnative speakers often find these difficult to distinguish, just as nonnative speakers of French find it difficult to distinguish tache from tâche, jeune from jeûne, or even nous from nu!) But except and accept, which theoretically have those two vowels, usually sound the same because the vowel is unstressed and reduces to schwa or [I] -- unless the speaker purposely puts contrastive stress on them to distinguish them: no, I didn't say 'EXcept,' I said 'ACcept.' Which amounts to the same thing I said before. And we're getting way off topic, so if you'd like to continue, we should do it privately. It shouldn't be hard to deduce my real email address from the munged version. Page opens fine for me. SM 2.0.3 Mac OSX4.11 PowerPC PowerBook 17 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.1: Workaround for remote timestamp on downloads?
Bill Davidsen wrote: On Linux/Mac it's less critical, the accessed and changed dates can be used for sorting or searching. Well, this is possibile on Windows as well, at least with the modified and created timestamps. Still, I wouldn't feel stupid at all asking how a file can have been modified ten years before it was created. The solution, namely that creating a file means creating an actual file, while modifying a file means modifying the contents of any number of identical files (so the timestamp doesn't actually refer to the file, but to its content), seems less than satisfying. But oh well... Oliver ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Testing For SeaMonkey 2.0.4 - help wanted!
Robert Kaiser wrote: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0.4-candidates/build2/ Sorry, wrong URL. The right one is here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0.4-candidates/build1/ Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Am 2010-03-18 14:47, schrieb Robert Kaiser: Matthias Kahlert wrote: Will there be a Seamonkey 2.X version that refrains from duplicating the whole imap mailstore into the profile without explicit consent from the user? By default, we'll always download all messages to the local machine from It is not downloading to the local machine, it is downloading to the profile which may be part of a roaming windows profile or which may be on a network drive or networked home directory. now on. We'll need that even more once we start using the global message database for globally searching all messages. Shouldn't the user be asked (or at least be informed) if he wants to pay the price of duplicating his complete mailstore for this global search? Shouldn't mail.server.default.autosync_offline_stores = false at least work? -- Matthias ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/17/2010 12:05 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work ^ Did you mean SM 2.0; I would be surprised if 1.1.19 changed mac min version; and if it did that sounds like a critical bug to me, can you elaborate here, please? on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. - ~Justin Wood (Callek) All I know is that I tried to install it on both Panther and Jaquar machines, and it would not run. Reverting to 1.1.18 on those boxes got them up and running again. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/17/2010 12:05 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work ^ Did you mean SM 2.0; I would be surprised if 1.1.19 changed mac min version; and if it did that sounds like a critical bug to me, can you elaborate here, please? on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. - ~Justin Wood (Callek) All I know is that I tried to install it on both Panther and Jaquar machines, and it would not run. Reverting to 1.1.18 on those boxes got them up and running again. Lee I just tried a new download of 1.1.19 on Pnther. When installed, when I click on the Dock icon to ope it, the icon bounces for about 20 seconds, then stops. It doesn't open. Reverting to 1.1.18 fixes it. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Matthias Kahlert wrote: Shouldn't the user be asked (or at least be informed) if he wants to pay the price of duplicating his complete mailstore for this global search? It is a pref after all, the user can set it differently. But by default, downloading is on, and for the vast majority of people this means the local machine. It might be worth looking into (if you have the developer time) to make this download into local settings (or whatever it's actually called, I'm a bit weak on Windows stuff) and not the roaming profile. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/17/2010 12:05 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work ^ Did you mean SM 2.0; I would be surprised if 1.1.19 changed mac min version; and if it did that sounds like a critical bug to me, can you elaborate here, please? on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. - ~Justin Wood (Callek) All I know is that I tried to install it on both Panther and Jaquar machines, and it would not run. Reverting to 1.1.18 on those boxes got them up and running again. Lee I just tried a new download of 1.1.19 on Panther. When installed, when I click on the Dock icon to ope it, the icon bounces for about 20 seconds, then stops. It doesn't open. Reverting to 1.1.18 fixes it. Lee Okay, first of all, let me back off a bit. I have a lot of Mac's, but only one running Panther, one Jaguar, and one Tiger, for test purposes, so this is a really small sample size. More folks testing on the older Mac versions would help. So here is where I am, and its a little worse then I thought. SM 1.1.19 will not run on any OS pre Leopard. On Leopard and Snow Leopard it installs, picks up the existing profile, and runs exactly as expected. On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. I tried removing the existing profile folders, to see if it would create a new profile, but no, it just won't start. Note this is tested just on the three machines I have with those versions. For what its worth, I did install it on Win 98 SE, and it runs exactly as expected, so it appears to be a Mac issue only. I would really like to see some other input. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
