Re: Multiple Versions
On 4/16/2010 6:12 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richard Lee Holbert wrote: I have 1.1.18 and 2.0.3 both on this machine and I just downloaded the setup file for 2.0.4 . I have been using 1.1.18 for awhile now and it is my default mail. In the 2.0.3 version, I have e-mail which does NOT show up in the 1.1.18 program and also some in 2.0.3 which does NOT show up in 1.1.18. Can anyone tell me why. And, if I install 2.0.4 do I need to get rid of all previous versions ? Also, if I install 2.0.4 how can I make sure that ALL e-mail from 1.1.18 and 2.0.3 gets into 2.0.4 ? Thanks for any and all help. From what I've read here over the past few months: SM 2 installs in a different location from SM 1, and it does not continue to use the same profile. Instead, it imports (migrates) your profile and creates a new one for its own use based on the data from version 1. Therefore, you can (if you wish) continue to use both programs. However, if you do that -- if you send and receive mail with one program, and then send and receive mail with the other program, and back and forth -- each program, because it maintains its own separate profile and its own separate mail folders, will have a different set of messages. Many of them will be the same -- the ones that you imported when you first installed version 2. But any messages you sent or received with SM 1 will be stored in the SM 1 profile, and any messages you sent or received with version 2 will be stored in the SM 2 profile. As time goes by, the two sets of messages will become more and more different -- only the old messages will be the same. If you want to maintain one profile and one set of message folders, you need to make up your mind. The recommendation here is generally version 2, which fixes some important security issues. You can uninstall version 1 without harming version 2, but first you probably want to transfer the messages sent/received with version 1 since you installed version 2. If that's your decision, post back and someone will provide detailed instructions. As for 2.0.4, you should be able to install that minor update right over 2.0.3. That's the least of your worries. You can set both SM1 and SM2 to use the same settings when it comes to mail account. Just have both programs point to the same local directory in the mail account settings. Printing the various settings before doing this may be a good idea to avoid any error. To avoid any potential conflict, just refrain from using the two versions at the same time to access your mail. Of course, before you fiddle with your settings, make sure to backup all mail files (the ones without extension). And to be on the safe side, also backup your profiles. Do not *assume* that backing up your profile will backup your mail, since this is only the default location. Personally, I have SM1, SM2 and TB3 pointing at the same mail location, without any problem. But, not looking for trouble, I only use one program at the same time. -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book. Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ? Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in Firefox? Phil Phillip, What do you look for in BookMarks?? Might I suggest that you look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term Address Book is not to far off the mark. Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have Bookmarks changed to Address Book?? To me, bookmarks are placed in things, they are not THE thing themselves. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Daniel wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book. Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ? Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in Firefox? Phil Phillip, What do you look for in BookMarks?? Might I suggest that you look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term Address Book is not to far off the mark. Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have Bookmarks changed to Address Book?? To me, bookmarks are placed in things, they are not THE thing themselves. Daniel Sorry, should be Philip, with on l Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
My wife was invited to join a friend on facebook. Well, that is all well and good, but how do I go about setting up my computer to make this happen? Is there a how-to instruction sheet that will lead me through this process? If so, I'm not finding it via Google. Any help, advice, simple instructions, etc. appreciated. Windows XP SP-3 Pro SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Daniel wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book. Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ? Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in Firefox? Phil Phillip, What do you look for in BookMarks?? Might I suggest that you look for Web Addresses, so I think my using the term Address Book is not to far off the mark. Perhaps I should put in a RFE to have Bookmarks changed to Address Book?? To me, bookmarks are placed in things, they are not THE thing themselves. Daniel ?? *Address books are exactly that*: email address, Name. nickname and if desired physical address, city, state, Zip/postal code, Phone, cell number, and a check market if the will accept HTML mail or not and whether you trust them to send remote content. Bookmarks are to be thought of well bookmarks place to go, say in a book, a location if you will. a URL is a Location on the web for a website. Another way to look at say you have a Book or long document typed in Word or converted to a PDF in that document is a Table of Contents (TOC) the table of contents if set up properly use each item in the TOC as a Bookmark to go to a specific location in the document. In this illustration you don't go to an addressbook you click a Bookmark to go to specific location. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Address book + Get rid of SM email or I et rid of browser!
Firefox does not have an address book, in fact Firefox has no email features. If you are accessing email through Firefox, any email features will be part of the email service that you are using and not Firefox. You need to check with the email service or application for the email service. JR From: Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Date: 15/04/10 16:41:17 Subject: Re: Get rid of SM email or I et rid of browser! Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:27:05 +0200, Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book. Why not copying the SM adressbook in the place of the FF one ? Uh? Firefox has an addressbook? Since when? And how do you access it in Firefox? I have used the same word ..but they certainly speaked about bookmark ? ! isn't it ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Facebook
Frog wrote: My wife was invited to join a friend on facebook. Well, that is all well and good, but how do I go about setting up my computer to make this happen? Is there a how-to instruction sheet that will lead me through this process? If so, I'm not finding it via Google. Any help, advice, simple instructions, etc. appreciated. Windows XP SP-3 Pro SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Frog Call off my request for help, at least for now. I found some how to information on Google that should get me started. I will be back, however, if I run into trouble along the way. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Latest Sun Java JRE in SeaMonkey v2.0.4 not working with all applets?
Hello. I use Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.0.4 (using binary from mozilla.org) in Debian/Linux. I can get Java applets to work on https://eetime11.adp.com/c08e/logon but not on http://javatester.org, http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, and http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml ... Java Plug-in 1.6.0_20 Using JRE version 1.6.0_20-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = /home/ant c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage o: trigger logging p: reload proxy configuration q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system and deployment properties t: dump thread list v: dump thread stack x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to n load: class testvm2/Main.class not found. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: testvm2.Main.class at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) FYI on my setups: $ pwd /home/Programs/seamonkey2/plugins $ ls -all total 28 drwxr-xr-x 2 ant ant 4096 2010-04-15 15:46 . drwxr-xr-x 15 ant ant 4096 2010-04-16 08:32 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root32 2009-11-27 17:19 libflashplayer.so - /home/Programs/libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root63 2010-04-15 15:46 libjavaplugin_oji.so - /home/Programs/jre1.6.0_20/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 15824 2009-10-17 09:30 libnullplugin.so $ ls -all /home/Programs/jre1.6.0_20/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 ant ant 137021 2010-04-12 14:39 /home/Programs/jre1.6.0_20/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so Does anyone know why? Thank you in advance. :) -- Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways and be wise: which having no guide, overseer or ruler, provideth her meat in the summer and gathereth her food in the harvest. --Proverbs 6:6-8 (Bible) /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Jane Galt wrote: I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be changed. I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL! I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Cannot send email
In my old browser I had SSL set, but TSL for outgoing messages. I can receive mail but not send it in the newer versions. has this been covered already? Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Roger Fink wrote: Jane Galt wrote: I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be changed. I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL! I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing. Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since the initial few messages? Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Frosted Flake wrote: Roger Fink wrote: Jane Galt wrote: I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be changed. I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL! I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing. Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since the initial few messages? Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll? Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Roger Fink a écrit : Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic. It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
S. Beaulieu wrote: Roger Fink a écrit : Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic. It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead. S. It wasn't an problem in 1.x, and as I said the developers may choose to address it or not. My opinion is that if they only want the program to be used in a certain way, then they should really get coercive about it and make mail implementation a precondition of getting the browser to launch. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Roger Fink a écrit : It wasn't an problem in 1.x, and as I said the developers may choose to address it or not. My opinion is that if they only want the program to be used in a certain way, then they should really get coercive about it and make mail implementation a precondition of getting the browser to launch. Well, obviously, some people already see the current model as being coercitive, so I don't think making things harder would make them any better. People *can* use another mail application if they want to. There just really is no point in using SM in that case, though. Or, rather, when one uses SM, there is little reason to make it a point to use another mail client. After all, it makes things more unweildy and, if both are running at the same time, uses way more memory than SM would. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote : Jane Galt wrote: Jane Galtjan...@gulch.xyz wrote : BeeNeRw3...@verizon.net wrote : If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html I run into the same mess all over again. I just installed and started FF. Tried to import my SM profile, it doesnt show up, says: If Netscape 6, 7 or Mozilla 1.x is not listed, SeaMonkey is not installed News to me, since SM is installed and has all my passwords, bookmarks etc in it. Jane, I think the problem here *might* be that Firefox uses the same format addressbook as SeaMonkey, so there is no need to import it, just open the Firefox Address Book, select Manage Address book (or similar) and point Firefox to the location of the SeaMonkey Address Book. Might help!! Daniel Address book? -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
BeeNeR w3...@verizon.net wrote : On or about 4/14/2010 11:52 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt: BeeNeR w3...@verizon.net wrote : On or about 4/14/2010 8:21 PM, Jane Galt hatte gesagt: I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be changed. I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL! If you only want a browser, let me suggest FireFox: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html Why does SM have to prevent any other email program from working with email links? Try going to START / SETTINGS / CONTROL PANEL / INTERNET PROPERTIES / PROGRAMS and in that screen change the E-Mail setting from SeaMonkey to XNews (at least if you're running Windows) What?? I'm running Windows 7. -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
MCBastos myem...@example.invalid wrote : Interviewed by CNN on 14/4/2010 21:21, Jane Galt told the world: I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be changed. I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL! OK, I'll try to answer this in a civil manner... First, yes, Seamonkey does assume that you are going to use its integrated e-mail client, instead of checking what is the default e-mail client in the Windows settings. Since the main point of using Seamonkey instead of Firefox is exactly the e-mail integration, this is not an unreasonable assumption. However there are a few people who prefer the Seamonkey browser to Firefox but intend to use other mail clients. There is a way to change the Seamonkey behavior, although it's a hidden option. You can find the instructions here: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto Tried that, several suggestions ago, doesnt work. Now, I gather that you tried changing to Firefox and ran into problems, because Firefox couldn't detect your existing installation of Seamonkey. Not to mention that all my bookmarks and passwords have been stored in SM. In fact I just migrated to Win 7 from XP and finally got that mess all fixed. Firefox is nice, and all that, but just another major hassle trying to get my profile, passwords etc. all moved, especially since it wont even recognize the SM install on this computer. Since you claim to be using SM 2.0.x, I think it's likely that the Firefox guys haven't updated yet their import tool to account for the changes in SM 2. There should be a bug open for it... Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the Firefox profile -- but things like passwords are more complicated. There's an extension that solves it. It's called Password Exporter. You can get the modified-for-Seamonkey version in Philip Chee's site: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#passwordexporter I don't know if you need it to import the passwords back to Firefox, but if so, you can get the official Password Exporter for Firefox here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848 Thanks. -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid wrote : Jane Galt wrote: User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100414-1, 04/14/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! Perhaps your unnecessary scanning of Outbound (and likely Inbound) mail/news is causing your problem. Choice of email client may be tied up in the proxy settings of your a-v program. Leave Avast! running in real-time mode, but disable the Inbound/Outbound scanners. http://tekrider.net/general/misctips.php#avinout I'm not even talking about that. I keep setting Pegasus Mail as my system email client, but SM wont go to it when I click email links on web pages, it will only open its own email client. How do I stop that and get it to recognize Pegasus as my only email client? And I've already tried the about:config suggestion and it wont work. I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Begs the question: why are you using the SeaMonkey suite if all you want is the browser? I've always liked the Netscape Communicator browser style instead of Internet Explorer. -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
MCBastos myem...@example.invalid wrote : Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the Firefox profile Ok, admittedly I'm totally new to FF. I just copied the bookmarks file over, but dont even see a menu to pull down my bookmarks in FF. -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Jane Galt jan...@gulch.xyz wrote : MCBastos myem...@example.invalid wrote : Bookmarks are easy to bring from SM to FF -- it's just a matter of copying one file, bookmarks.html, from the Seamonkey profile to the Firefox profile Ok, admittedly I'm totally new to FF. I just copied the bookmarks file over, but dont even see a menu to pull down my bookmarks in FF. Never mind this, I found out how to import them from a html file using the bookmarks import. FF will just take some getting used to. -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Everybody's in this thinking rut when it comes to which browser to use. If you dont want email, you gotta use FF. Well I'm 60 years old and have liked netscape's browser look and feel since I first got on the net and started using Navigator in 1994. I've TRIED to stick with that, and always HATED Internet Explorer. So here we are and I prefer the browser look and feel of SM now, NOT FF. So why cant we get SM to give up its hassles with email mailto links? It's not hard, come on guys. -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Roger Fink f...@manana.org wrote : Jane Galt wrote: I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be changed. I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL! I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing. Doesnt work with Pegasus Mail. I have Pegasus set to be my system defaul emailer, even went as suggested, and did about:config and made the changes there, and SM STILL wont let it be used for mailto links. I just downloaded and tried it in FF and it DOES go to Pegasus for mailto links, so YES this is a SM only problem and seems unfixable unless the developers get it fixed. -- Jane Galt There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
S. Beaulieu sereenie-nosp...@netscape.net wrote : Roger Fink a écrit : Because the issue is as legitimate as your analysis is idiotic. It's not an issue at all. SM is a suite. If anyone doesn't want to use a suite, they should choose a standalone browser instead. S. Great, I like the look and feel of the SM browser, why cant I get the standalone anymore? -- Jane Galt Property Rights The right to life is the source of all rightsand the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave. Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material values. - Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness Mans Rights, The Virtue of Selfishness, 94. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Frosted Flake em...@is.invalid wrote : Roger Fink wrote: Jane Galt wrote: I use Windows 7 and am FED UP with SM 2.0's demanding that I use its email client! I want the BROWSER ONLY. I've been using Pegasus Mail as my client since 1994 and wont stop. Yet something wont allow me to make that my default email client in SM, it opens SM's mail client for any email link I click on and wont allow it to be changed. I either get this to stop or I gotta find another browser, this is BULL! I use Seamonkey 2 the same way you do (on Win2000) and have the same problem, only my default email is Thunderbird. I think it's basically a Seamonkey problem and unless the developers choose to proactively correct it, you are stuck with the situation. The one thing I do as an ersatz fix is to have Thunderbird open. If the default email program is open, then SM will invoke it. Hardly satisfactory, better than nothing. Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since the initial few messages? Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll? Kiss my ass. Unlike you, I'm not sitting full time in my mommy's basement in my underpants, typing flames, I work and dont always have time to jump in here, but WILL get back. -- Jane Galt Property Rights The right to life is the source of all rightsand the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave. Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material values. - Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness Mans Rights, The Virtue of Selfishness, 94. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Jane Galt wrote: Everybody's in this thinking rut when it comes to which browser to use. If you dont want email, you gotta use FF. Well I'm 60 years old and have liked netscape's browser look and feel since I first got on the net and started using Navigator in 1994. I've TRIED to stick with that, and always HATED Internet Explorer. So here we are and I prefer the browser look and feel of SM now, NOT FF. So why cant we get SM to give up its hassles with email mailto links? It's not hard, come on guys. She twirled Greenspan around her little finger and we're all living with the result - you really ought to consider giving her up. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
S. Beaulieu sereenie-nosp...@netscape.net wrote : Roger Fink a écrit : It wasn't an problem in 1.x, and as I said the developers may choose to address it or not. My opinion is that if they only want the program to be used in a certain way, then they should really get coercive about it and make mail implementation a precondition of getting the browser to launch. Well, obviously, some people already see the current model as being coercitive, so I don't think making things harder would make them any better. People *can* use another mail application if they want to. There just really is no point in using SM in that case, though. Yes there IS, that's my point. I like the look feel of the SM browser, not FF or Internet Explorer, but SM. Why do I have to throw out the baby with the bathwater and go to something else, JUST because of a programming problem where they wont let me use my own emailer? -- Jane Galt Property Rights The right to life is the source of all rightsand the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave. Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material values. - Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness Mans Rights, The Virtue of Selfishness, 94. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote: ... What?? I'm running Windows 7. http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Default+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7btnG=Search http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help? Keep in mind that Win7 is a completely different beast than WinXP. I only fire it up for testing, or when my spouse needs it for work issues. You might also try: http://www.pmail.com/support.htm as it seems that pmail Vista[1]/Win7 have some issues overall. [1] found this as well: http://community.pmail.com/forums/post/460.aspx ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote : On 04/16/2010 06:01 PM, Jane Galt wrote: ... What?? I'm running Windows 7. http://www.google.com/search?hl=encomplete=0q=Setting+Pegasus+to+be+Def ault+Email+Client+%2Bwin+7btnG=Search http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/14660-email-defaults.html Don't know as I use linux, but the above might help? Thanks but BTDT. Pegasus is set as the default emailer for my system. The ONLY program that wont work for, is SM. It even works for FF. Keep in mind that Win7 is a completely different beast than WinXP. And what a fine beast it is too. :) I resisted for a long time, based on the Vista dread ( never used Vista ) but then some of the nice folks in 24 hour help told me not to worry. I LOVE Win 7 now! Very nice. You might also try: http://www.pmail.com/support.htm as it seems that pmail Vista[1]/Win7 have some issues overall. [1] found this as well: http://community.pmail.com/forums/post/460.aspx Thanks. -- Jane Galt Property Rights The right to life is the source of all rightsand the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave. Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material values. - Ayn Rand, The Virtue of Selfishness Mans Rights, The Virtue of Selfishness, 94. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Bug Day Next Week!
On 04/15/2010 03:29 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Just to let people in the SeaMonkey groups know as well, Mozilla QA is holding a bugday on SeaMonkey next week: Anthony Hughes schrieb: Good day, I'm here to let you know that next week, Tuesday April 20th, Mozilla QA will be holding a bug day for Seamonkey. We will be going through a large set of bugs in the general component and placing them into the appropriate component for higher visibility to developers. Identifying the right component allows us to more easily dupe, resolve, or escalate bugs. If you want more information about the bug day, please go to http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2010/apr/20/bug-day-seamonkey-general-bugs If you want to help out, please join us on irc://irc.mozilla.org in the #bugday channel. I hope to see you there! Crossposted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey mozilla.support.seamonkey. Followups set to mozilla.support.seamonkey. Is there an easy way to sort: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedresolution=---product=SeaMonkeycomponent=General by OS + Severity; for example if I'd like to concentrate only on critical linux bugs (cri/Linu)? I realise that I can sort the lot by OS, but looking for a way to just show only the cri/Linu. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
Jane Galt wrote: I just downloaded and tried it in FF and it DOES go to Pegasus for mailto links, so YES this is a SM only problem and seems unfixable unless the developers get it fixed. Why don't you use FF and install the Netscape theme to make it look like Navigator? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4083 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Get rid of SM email or I get rid of browser!
On 10-04-16 5:08 PM, Frosted Flake wrote: Have you folks noticed the the OP has NOT been back in this thread since the initial few messages? Why keep beating a dead horse for a troll? The replies to this post from Roger Fink and Jane Galt have been removed from the news server, because they contained personal attack. See http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
