Re: Global installation does not work localized

2010-05-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jens Hatlak,

Am 2010-05-21 18:32:23, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
 I'd recommend doing a chmod -Rf o+r /path/to/sm-installdir first,
 maybe also chmod a+x /path/to/sm-installdir/components if you want
 to install certain global extensions.

For what?  Under UNIX/Linux a global installation is done by root.

SeaMonkey is installed in /opt/seamokey and the executable has a symlink
in /usr/bin.

 For the actual installation of extensions (like localization
 packages) you should change the owner of all files to your user
 (chown -R yourusername /path/to/sm-installdir) temporarily, start SM
 as your user, do the installation, and change back the ownership to
 root.

Ehm???  The localizations are installed global an should  available  for
ALL users.  Each user should install its own copys? This will never work
correctly, because the ${HOME} are on  NFSv4.  Loading  whole  programs,
themes and extensions from ${HOME} would kill even a GE Network.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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Re: Global installation does not work localized

2010-05-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello NoOp,

Am 2010-05-21 11:50:34, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
 Is there any particular reason that you installed as root?  Why not just
 extract to a /home folder and run from there?

I have only a GE network but over 200 users... ${HOME} is a NFSv4 share.

Also installing 200 x 30 MByte of the same binaries is not very funny.

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Re: Global installation does not work localized

2010-05-22 Thread Jens Hatlak

Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2010-05-21 18:32:23, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:

I'd recommend doing a chmod -Rf o+r /path/to/sm-installdir first,
maybe also chmod a+x /path/to/sm-installdir/components if you want
to install certain global extensions.


For what?  Under UNIX/Linux a global installation is done by root.


Sure. But with a global installation the files are not run by root. The 
Others group should be able to read all files (except for confidential 
information, which AFAIK SM's application directory doesn't contain). 
From past experience I know that this is not necessarily the case after 
you just extracted the files. Similarly everyone should be able to 
access the components directory, that's why I suggested a+x. If either 
read or execute rights are already granted for Others you can skip 
that step of course.



For the actual installation of extensions (like localization
packages) you should change the owner of all files to your user
(chown -R yourusername /path/to/sm-installdir) temporarily, start SM
as your user, do the installation, and change back the ownership to
root.


Ehm???  The localizations are installed global an should  available  for
ALL users.  Each user should install its own copys?


No. I just assumed you knew how to accomplish that step.

You have basically two options with SM 2.0:
a) drop the XPI files that should be installed globally in the 
extensions directory of the application directory and start SM once. For 
security reasons that should not be done as root. That's why I suggested 
temporarily changing the ownership of all application files.
b) using the --install-global-extension command line option. Use a full 
path and have the XPI files available on a local path to ensure it 
actually works. This should be relatively safe to do as root, i.e. 
without the need to change file ownerships.


https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Command_Line_Options#section_51

Neither option works with SM 1.x. Option b has been dropped after SM 2.0 
so SM 2.1 will not support it anymore. Given the Add-on Manager rewrite 
that landed this month it might even be the case that option a won't 
work with SM 2.1 anymore either (cf. bug 566373 which is AFAICS limited 
to the extensions directory within the user's profile).


HTH

Jens

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What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread Rick Merrill

Daily I am running into yet another web site
with active data that can ONLY be viewed
(effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.

It appears to be related to javascript.

example: http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/
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Re: Address book: more than two e-mails?

2010-05-22 Thread Rick Merrill

MCBastos wrote:

The address book has two e-mail entries: one for email and one for
additional email (there's also one for screen name, which I'm not
sure if it's of any use in these post-online service times). If I try to
insert more than one e-mail in the additional email, Seamonkey does
not seem to be able to tell them apart -- and in fact makes a bit of a
mess of the message heading. I tried different separators with the same
result.

Is there any way to insert more than one e-mail address in an address
book entry so that Seamonkey behaves as expected?


Why isn't a mailing list adequate? Am I missing something?

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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread Mike TmoWizard
On 22 Mai, 14:31, Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote:
 Daily I am running into yet another web site
 with active data that can ONLY be viewed
 (effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.

 It appears to be related to javascript.

 example:http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/

I have no problems with this site:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.1.10)
Gecko/20100504 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.5

The only problem is: This site uses Adobe Reader when printing and
downloading documents

I dont want install the Acrobat Reader, i use Okular from KDE

Mike
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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Rick Merrill wrote:

 Daily I am running into yet another web site with active data that can
 ONLY be viewed (effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.

Your subject line should read something like, Why are there clueless
web authors?   :-/

 It appears to be related to javascript.
 example: http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/

If JavaScript is disabled, you won't get anything. If enabled, there is
a really horrible browser *and* operating system sniffer in use. It's
the several hundred lines of:
http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/Scripts/brwsniff.js

It looks for a dozen OSes, but no Windows versions newer than XP.

I copied all the JavaScript into a text file, and shudder! there is
*62,800 lines* of the stuff!!!  That is ridiculous.

Rather than complain about the browser(s), you should write the author
of the site and tell him to buy a clue.

In answer to your subject line:  Losing.

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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread WLS

Mike TmoWizard wrote:

On 22 Mai, 14:31, Rick Merrillrick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com  wrote:

Daily I am running into yet another web site
with active data that can ONLY be viewed
(effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.

It appears to be related to javascript.

example:http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/


I have no problems with this site:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.1.10)
Gecko/20100504 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.5

The only problem is: This site uses Adobe Reader when printing and
downloading documents

I dont want install the Acrobat Reader, i use Okular from KDE

Mike


The site might say that, but the .pdf files opened fine for me in Evince 
from Gnome.

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Re: Address book: more than two e-mails?

2010-05-22 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 22/5/2010 09:35, Rick Merrill told the world:

 Why isn't a mailing list adequate? Am I missing something?
 

Yes, you are. My brother has three e-mails; why should I make a *mailing
list* for him? I just want to have the three of them available on the
autofill list without needing to open a second address book entry. I
have several such cases in my address book.

This is one of the (very few) points Mozilla is worse than the Microsoft
solutions. The Windows Address Book (used by -- ugh -- Outlook Express)
allows essentially unlimited e-mails per entry.

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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/22/10 5:31 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 Daily I am running into yet another web site
 with active data that can ONLY be viewed
 (effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.
 
 It appears to be related to javascript.
 
 example: http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/

Micro$oft is losing the browser wars.  In the past 7 years, the user
base for IE has dropped from more than 80% to less than 50%.

I had no trouble viewing the page you cite with SeaMonkey 2.0.4.  On the
other hand, using IE 7, all I got was Loading page content, please
wait, this may take a few seconds...  after all downloading was
completed; the rest of the page was blank.  Using SeaMonkey to spoof IE
7 allowed me to see the page.

The page is poorly designed, without any real justification for the use
of frames.  The use of an absolute IP address instead of a domain is
highly questionable.  The page has 63 XHTML errors and 47 CSS errors, so
you should indeed expect some garbage.

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Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread Rick Merrill

Rick Merrill wrote:

Daily I am running into yet another web site
with active data that can ONLY be viewed
(effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.

It appears to be related to javascript.

example: http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/


I am using vanilla Windows XP sp3 with SM2.04
and JavaScript is ENABLED for everything and
I still see just a scattering of menu items
that are all over the place.

I have written to the author with W3C errors
and you know exactly how far that got ...


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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread Mike TmoWizard
On 22 Mai, 15:44, WLS rafte...@verizonremove.net wrote:
 Mike TmoWizard wrote:
  On 22 Mai, 14:31, Rick Merrillrick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com  wrote:
  Daily I am running into yet another web site
  with active data that can ONLY be viewed
  (effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.

  It appears to be related to javascript.

  example:http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/

  I have no problems with this site:

  Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.1.10)
  Gecko/20100504 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.5

  The only problem is: This site uses Adobe Reader when printing and
  downloading documents

  I dont want install the Acrobat Reader, i use Okular from KDE

  Mike

 The site might say that, but the .pdf files opened fine for me in Evince
 from Gnome.

That sounds very crazy! SeaMonkey meens i need an Plugin to show
the .pdf file.

I dont now what's goin wrong.

Mike
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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread WLS

Mike TmoWizard wrote:

On 22 Mai, 15:44, WLSrafte...@verizonremove.net  wrote:

Mike TmoWizard wrote:

On 22 Mai, 14:31, Rick Merrillrick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.comwrote:

Daily I am running into yet another web site
with active data that can ONLY be viewed
(effectively at all!) with IE8 and not with SM2.



It appears to be related to javascript.



example:http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/



I have no problems with this site:



Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.1.10)
Gecko/20100504 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.5



The only problem is: This site uses Adobe Reader when printing and
downloading documents



I dont want install the Acrobat Reader, i use Okular from KDE



Mike


The site might say that, but the .pdf files opened fine for me in Evince
from Gnome.


That sounds very crazy! SeaMonkey meens i need an Plugin to show
the .pdf file.

I dont now what's goin wrong.

Mike



Evince is a PDF documnet viewer, I'm using the Gnome desktop.

When I click on a pdf file from that web site, the download doesn't 
start automatically, so I click on the Please click here If the download 
doesn't start link.


A popup box opens informing me that I have chosen to open a pdf file, 
and asks me What should Seamonkey do with this file?


The choices are open with Evince (my default pdf viewer, just like 
Okular should be yours) or save file.


You have another problem if you don't get that far.

Just because they have a line on the page that states:

This site uses Adobe Reader when printing and downloading documents
Please click on the following link: Adobe Reader to ensure you have the 
latest version installed on your computer, doesn't mean Seamonkey is 
telling you that.





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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread Hartmut Figge
WLS:

When I click on a pdf file from that web site, [...]

Perhaps i am the only one who doesn't see any pdf file there. *g*
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100522.png (30 KB)

Hartmut with SM2.1
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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread WLS

Hartmut Figge wrote:

WLS:


When I click on a pdf file from that web site, [...]


Perhaps i am the only one who doesn't see any pdf file there. *g*
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100522.png (30 KB)

Hartmut with SM2.1


My bad I guess.

Under Instructions/Help I am clicking Click here for Image viewing and 
Printing Instructions


http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/386/screenshotwelcometo2020.png

That take me to this page.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/386/screenshotwelcometo2020.png

Looks like pdf files to me.

Which when I click the link here in Please click here If the download 
doesn't start automatically gives me nothing now, as the site isn't 
responding so I can't provide a screen shot, but previously popped up 
the open or save dialog box.  LOL!


But then I do get this message when I click the link in Mike's message.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1879/screenshotemailscamaler.png

Walt with SM 2.0.4







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Re: MP3 Helper App Missing - more

2010-05-22 Thread Ed Mullen

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

old:

A couple days ago I started getting some little save or browse
window anytime I clicked on an mp3 file (using SeaMonkey 2.04 under
XP).  I looked in preferences under helper applications - mp3 was not
listed and I saw no way to add the mp3 type to the list.

Any suggestions?

+ + + + + + +
new:

No suggestion in here so I restored my XP partition from a three week
old backup (a disk sector backup, not filename, so it puts me right
back were I was before).  That worked - my SeaMonkey Browser again
opens mp3 files right away - no intervening pop-up.

Turns out Helper Applications in the restored SM does not include an
mp3 type either.  Well, over a month ago in Windows, I changed my
default for mp3 files from QuickTime Player to Windows Media Player.
However, SM still uses QuickTime.  I did not see anything specifying
this in SM's about:config.

So, anyone know where in SeaMonkey is the mp3 app defined?


mimeTypes.rdf in your profile.

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Re: What is M$ doing in the browser wars

2010-05-22 Thread Hartmut Figge
WLS:

Under Instructions/Help I am clicking Click here for Image viewing and 
Printing Instructions

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/386/screenshotwelcometo2020.png

I do not see Instructions/Help on http://74.8.243.132/Worcester/, but i
can use 'Search Home' to get your screen.

That take me to this page.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/386/screenshotwelcometo2020.png

And how? ;)

But i could use the first file under Index
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/pre/precom/apostille_and_certification_information.pdf

No problem for my xpdf. Opens fine in the browser.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100522-b.jpg (311 KB)

Sorry, that's a big one.

Hartmut
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Re: MP3 Helper App Missing - more

2010-05-22 Thread Paul

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

old:

A couple days ago I started getting some little save or browse
window anytime I clicked on an mp3 file (using SeaMonkey 2.04 under
XP).  I looked in preferences under helper applications - mp3 was not
listed and I saw no way to add the mp3 type to the list.

Any suggestions?

+ + + + + + +
new:

No suggestion in here so I restored my XP partition from a three week
old backup (a disk sector backup, not filename, so it puts me right
back were I was before).  That worked - my SeaMonkey Browser again
opens mp3 files right away - no intervening pop-up.

Turns out Helper Applications in the restored SM does not include an
mp3 type either.  Well, over a month ago in Windows, I changed my
default for mp3 files from QuickTime Player to Windows Media Player.
However, SM still uses QuickTime.  I did not see anything specifying
this in SM's about:config.

So, anyone know where in SeaMonkey is the mp3 app defined?


Mine is defined as audio/mpeg, extension mp3.
Open with default app.
Default previously defined in windows registry for
a small mp3 player that I use.
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Re: MP3 Helper App Missing - more

2010-05-22 Thread Phillip Jones

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

old:

A couple days ago I started getting some little save or browse
window anytime I clicked on an mp3 file (using SeaMonkey 2.04 under
XP).  I looked in preferences under helper applications - mp3 was not
listed and I saw no way to add the mp3 type to the list.

Any suggestions?

+ + + + + + +
new:

No suggestion in here so I restored my XP partition from a three week
old backup (a disk sector backup, not filename, so it puts me right
back were I was before).  That worked - my SeaMonkey Browser again
opens mp3 files right away - no intervening pop-up.

Turns out Helper Applications in the restored SM does not include an
mp3 type either.  Well, over a month ago in Windows, I changed my
default for mp3 files from QuickTime Player to Windows Media Player.
However, SM still uses QuickTime.  I did not see anything specifying
this in SM's about:config.

So, anyone know where in SeaMonkey is the mp3 app defined?

--
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Open Preferences (setting for PC's) Click Browser then Helper 
applications For mp3 and choose which ever player or plugin.


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Welcome Message

2010-05-22 Thread W3BNR
I built a new profile in Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; 
Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11pre) Gecko/20100521 SeaMonkey/2.0.6pre


Now I can't get rid of the Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail  Newsgroups 
message in the message pane of the e-mail accounts.  Appears randomly in 
all folders of all accounts.


Any help?

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why http://www.google.com/

2010-05-22 Thread Rick Merrill

not showing pacman on
windows xp sp3 with SM 2.0.4 ???!!!

JavaScript enabled!
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Re: why http://www.google.com/

2010-05-22 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/22/10 4:46 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 not showing pacman on
 windows xp sp3 with SM 2.0.4 ???!!!
 
 JavaScript enabled!

I get it with Windows XP SP2 and SM 2.0.4

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Re: why http://www.google.com/

2010-05-22 Thread chicagofan

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/22/10 4:46 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:
   

not showing pacman on
windows xp sp3 with SM 2.0.4 ???!!!

JavaScript enabled!
 

I get it with Windows XP SP2 and SM 2.0.4

   


I get it with WIN XP SP2 and SM 2.0.5 .
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Re: Welcome Message

2010-05-22 Thread W3BNR

Hartmut Figge wrote:

W3BNR:


Now I can't get rid of the Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail  Newsgroups
message in the message pane of the e-mail accounts.  Appears randomly in
all folders of all accounts.


Is the option at the bottom checked?
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100523-a.png (13 KB)

Hartmut


Guess I was working too long on this today.  After transferring 6 e-mail 
accounts and e-mails into new profile.  yep, forgot to uncheck it.  I 
decided to get rid of many years of collections in the profiles and 
start anew.  Thanks Hartmut for pointing out the simple solution.


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Re: why http://www.google.com/

2010-05-22 Thread Jay Garcia
On 22.05.2010 18:46, Rick Merrill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 not showing pacman on
 windows xp sp3 with SM 2.0.4 ???!!!
 
 JavaScript enabled!

Cache cleared and cookies enabled? Works here.

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Re: question

2010-05-22 Thread Norvin

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/21/10 6:09 AM, Norvin wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/20/10 8:41 PM, Norvin wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 20.05.2010 21:34, Norvin wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Trying to connect to Redbox and keep getting the following error code.

What error code?


Is there a fix for this? Using SM 1.1.18

Maybe, if you post the error code. ;-)


Damm, must of had a senior moment, sorry, had it copied, but not pasted.

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: 
http://www.redbox.com/?cid=PS:Yahoo:Yahoo%20RAIS:YahooRAISredbox1:red%20box:54479tracking_ID=3b515e8c-4331-6289-4af8-5401f553
Line Number 90, Column 65:a 
href=http://ebm.e.redbox.com/r/regf2?n=1aid=2082183869a=0; 
target=_blank

If the page you are trying to reach is
http://ebm.e.redbox.com/r/regf2?n=1aid=2082183869a=0, it works okay
for me.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9)
Gecko/20100317 SeaMonkey/2.0.4

Yes, but try the same link and click on find a movie, that is where 
the error shows up. It does work in Firefox but not SM 1.1.18


Aha!  I do see evidence of sniffing, but I don't get an error code with
SeaMonkey 2.0.4.

I went to http://ebm.e.redbox.com/r/regf2?n=1aid=2082183869a=0 and
selected Find a Movie.  I got a red navigation bar at the top and a
list of genres down the left.  The main part of the window was blank.

Spoofing Firefox, the main part of the window contained thumbnails of
DVD covers and movie titles.

Go to my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html.  Let me know if
it provides you with any help in dealing with your problem.

Dave, thanks for the suggestions, I did modify my user agent string and 
now no problem. Thanks

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Re: why http://www.google.com/

2010-05-22 Thread erwincas
On May 22, 5:46 pm, Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com
wrote:
 not showing pacman on
 windows xp sp3 with SM 2.0.4 ???!!!

 JavaScript enabled!

I get it with windows xp sp2 and SeaMonkey/2.1a1

Clear your cache maybe it could help.
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Re: why http://www.google.com/

2010-05-22 Thread NoOp
On 05/22/2010 04:46 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:
 not showing pacman on
 windows xp sp3 with SM 2.0.4 ???!!!
 
 JavaScript enabled!

I killed it as soon as it first appeared; it was taking 40-50% of my cpu!

Resolved by killing javascript  then later found that I could kill it
off by Adblock Plus settings.

Many others had a crapload of issues as well:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=67d3f7751ffeb2c4hl=en

What a total boggle on Google's part.



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