Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag 
when I try to close their window.


E.g., 

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off," 
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with CTRL-Q 
and never return?


Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent them from 
pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple thousands of other 
innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Thanks.

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Upgrade Problems from 1.9 - 2.0

[Cath Moss]

Dear friends

When I upgraded the new Seamonkey only took in about 1/4 of my mails and 
folders.  When I look in the Profile file they are listed there but they 
do not show up in the client.  How can I fix this.


Thanks

Cath
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Re: Enlarging attached photo's

[Daniel]

jim wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:45:21 -0600, NA  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:




Daniel wrote:

SM 2.0.11 on Mandriva Linux 2009.0 on a HP 6730b laptop

My sister has sent me about a dozen emails which basically consist of
attached scanned photo's or newspaper cuttings. If you have been to a
photo site where they have thumbnail images that you click on to see
the full sized image.well the scanned images sent to me are about
the thumbnail sizeeven at 300% it's hard to make any detail.

If I "File->Save As->", I get a file with the email header stuff and
then the text version of the attached photo.

Short of getting my sister to Archive/Zip the files before she sends
them, is there some way I can re-claim these emailed photos??

TIA

Daniel
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Daniel,

Silk purses ande sows' ears...you can't make something out of nothing.
If the resolution is too small to blow up with the Ctrl-+, then it won't
get any better if you save it and view it with another program.
Apparently your sister is sending you thumbnails or low resolution
scans, and the only solution is for her to take higher resolution scans
and send them. Most scanners produce JPEGs, and those can be shurnk
quite a bit without losing clarity, given the right program, but there
is still a limit. If you want to be able to print them at a size larger
than what you see on your screen, higher actual resolution is needed.

Everett L.(Rett) Williams II


Everett gave the long answer -- the short answer is "no".

Is there a possibility that they are hyperlinked to a photo sharing site?

Otherwise, you and your sister need to introduce each other to "Dropbox"
shared folders. :-)

jim



Never thought of the Dropbox idea, Jim, could be worth a bit of 
investigation.


Normally they send pics of 400k or 500kbytes, ten or a dozen at a time, 
but, as my ISP only allows 500kbytes before he starts charging extra, I 
bitch and complain to my sister about the extra charge...looks 
like they might actually be listening to me!!


Daniel
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Re: Synchronizing bookmarks -- Seamonkey and Firefox

[Daniel]

sean wrote:

jim wrote:

Seamonkey 2.04
Firefox 3.6.13

I have a situation where my bookmarks are pretty well diverged now. They
used to be synchronized when they both used html files but have not been
for several years.

I have seamonkey bookmarks that aren't in firefox and firefox bookmarks
that aren't in seamonkey.

Is there a clever way to merge the two places.sqlite files and end up
with
no duplicates?

Thanks,

jim


I was quite happy to see that Sync was available via SeaMonkey addons
today... I use Firefox in my windows partition and SeaMonkey in my linux
partition, thus far no troubles whatsoever...

sean





Sean, just FYI, I use SeaMonkey on both my Win7 and my Mandriva Linux. 
Simply put my Profile on the Win7 partition, so both SeaMonkeys can make 
use of the files.


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Re: Enlarging attached photo's

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:


Normally they send pics of 400k or 500kbytes, ten or a dozen at a time,
but, as my ISP only allows 500kbytes before he starts charging extra, I
bitch and complain to my sister about the extra charge...looks
like they might actually be listening to me!!


In this day and age, 500 KB is a ridiculously low threshold. Redirect 
your bitching or find a reasonable ISP. There are many out there.


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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Rick Merrill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag
when I try to close their window.

E.g., 

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off,"
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with CTRL-Q
and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the "kill' button to 
give permission to download an EXE trojan.


Take your second path.



Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent them from
pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple thousands of other
innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Let's hope someone can do this!

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filling out forms

[Rick Merrill]

After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check, https - check )
I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there is my credit card 
number in the clear.


Comments?

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Re: filling out forms

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick Merrill wrote:


After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check, https -
check )
I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there is my
credit card number in the clear.

Comments?


At Micro$oft, that would be called a "feature."

That's why I've disabled it.

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Re: filling out forms

[Jay Garcia]

On 24.01.2011 07:03, Rick Merrill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check, https -
> check )
> I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there is my
> credit card number in the clear.
> 
> Comments?
> 

That's because you typed it "in the clear" and it's stored "in the
clear" but ONLY in YOUR form history, not on the site.

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Re: filling out forms

[Jay Garcia]

On 24.01.2011 07:46, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Rick Merrill wrote:
> 
>> After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check, https -
>> check )
>> I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there is my
>> credit card number in the clear.
>>
>> Comments?
> 
> At Micro$oft, that would be called a "feature."
> 
> That's why I've disabled it.
> 

The CC number was typed "in the clear" and therefore stored "in the
clear" but only in the form history, not on the site or any other site.

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Main password unresponsive

[S. Beaulieu]

I just came back from vacation and my main password is acting weird.

After I've launched SM, the password window showed up, which I fill. It 
tells me I have the wrong password. Huh? OK, I guess I mistyped, so I 
type it again. It still tells me I'm wrong, so I figure my vacations 
scrambled my brain and I input another password I use­. Still no go. I 
retype both in case I really mistyped, and it still doesn't work. So I 
then decide to let it rest for a bit since I seem to have gotten 
confused in all my passwords, so I click the cancel button.


Then SM is launched, with all my email accounts open. I tried to change 
the password again, but it refuses to let me do so.


So on the one hand, the password seems to be all wonky and on the other, 
SM lets me use its features completely, ignoring the protection that is 
supposed to be afforded by the password.


So what's going on? Does anyone have an idea?

S.
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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Ed Mullen]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag
when I try to close their window.

E.g., 

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off,"
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with CTRL-Q
and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
"kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.



Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm. 
RUNNING the program will.  So, no harm in clicking the button, SM won't 
allow running the file, only saving it.





Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent them from
pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple thousands of other
innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Turn off javascript.

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Re: Main password unresponsive

[David E. Ross]

On 1/24/11 7:15 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote:
> I just came back from vacation and my main password is acting weird.
> 
> After I've launched SM, the password window showed up, which I fill. It 
> tells me I have the wrong password. Huh? OK, I guess I mistyped, so I 
> type it again. It still tells me I'm wrong, so I figure my vacations 
> scrambled my brain and I input another password I use­. Still no go. I 
> retype both in case I really mistyped, and it still doesn't work. So I 
> then decide to let it rest for a bit since I seem to have gotten 
> confused in all my passwords, so I click the cancel button.
> 
> Then SM is launched, with all my email accounts open. I tried to change 
> the password again, but it refuses to let me do so.
> 
> So on the one hand, the password seems to be all wonky and on the other, 
> SM lets me use its features completely, ignoring the protection that is 
> supposed to be afforded by the password.
> 
> So what's going on? Does anyone have an idea?
> 
> S.

To see your master password as (or after) you enter it, install the Show
Password On Input extension at
.

-- 

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: Main password unresponsive

[S. Beaulieu]

David E. Ross a écrit :


To see your master password as (or after) you enter it, install the Show
Password On Input extension at
.




Nah, my password was fine before I left from vacation, so that's not the 
problem. The problem is the fact that SM runs as usual *after* I clicked 
the cancel button, thus beating the purpose of having a main password.


Unless the main password doesn't do what I think it is meant to.

S.
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Re: filling out forms

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 24.01.2011 07:46, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Rick Merrill wrote:


After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check, https -
check )
I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there is my
credit card number in the clear.

Comments?


At Micro$oft, that would be called a "feature."

That's why I've disabled it.


The CC number was typed "in the clear" and therefore stored "in the
clear" but only in the form history, not on the site or any other site.


Having it stored on my computer and easily found is only safe if I can 
guarantee the physical security of my computer. Better not to store it 
at all.


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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag
when I try to close their window.

E.g., 

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off,"
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with CTRL-Q
and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
"kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.


Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm. RUNNING
the program will. So, no harm in clicking the button, SM won't allow
running the file, only saving it.


Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent them from
pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple thousands of other
innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Turn off javascript.


Exactly the baby-with-bathwater kind of solution I'm trying to avoid.

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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Roger Fink]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
>
>> Rick Merrill wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this
 nag when I try to close their window.

 E.g., 

 Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck
 off," or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program
 with CTRL-Q and never return?
>>>
>>> Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
>>> "kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.
>>
>> Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm.
>> RUNNING the program will. So, no harm in clicking the button, SM
>> won't allow running the file, only saving it.
>>
 Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent
 them from pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple
 thousands of other innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...
>>
>> Turn off javascript.
>
> Exactly the baby-with-bathwater kind of solution I'm trying to avoid.
>
> --
I've got an icon on my toolbar which takes me to about:blank. You could set 
the throbber to this in about:config. 


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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this
nag when I try to close their window.

E.g.,

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck
off," or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program
with CTRL-Q and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
"kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.


Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm.
RUNNING the program will. So, no harm in clicking the button, SM
won't allow running the file, only saving it.


Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent
them from pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple
thousands of other innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Turn off javascript.


Exactly the baby-with-bathwater kind of solution I'm trying to avoid.

--

I've got an icon on my toolbar which takes me to about:blank. You could set
the throbber to this in about:config.


If you try it with the example site linked above, you'll see that the 
popup dialog doesn't contain a throbber, and you don't have access to 
the main window until you close the nag.


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Re: Main password unresponsive

[Jens Hatlak]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

After I've launched SM, the password window showed up, which I fill. It
tells me I have the wrong password. Huh? OK, I guess I mistyped, so I
type it again. It still tells me I'm wrong, so I figure my vacations
scrambled my brain and I input another password I use­. Still no go. I
retype both in case I really mistyped, and it still doesn't work.


Maybe you ran into one of the cases where you in fact get multiple 
Master Password prompts (all exactly one above the other) so submitting 
one looks like it came back.



So on the one hand, the password seems to be all wonky and on the other,
SM lets me use its features completely, ignoring the protection that is
supposed to be afforded by the password.


The Master Password protects your passwords (and certificates), nothing 
else. It's not a means of blocking access to SeaMonkey. That you'd have 
to achieve through your OS (Windows) or other tools (e.g. for profile or 
hard-disk encryption).


HTH

Jens

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Re: filling out forms

[Rick Merrill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 24.01.2011 07:46, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Rick Merrill wrote:


After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check,
https -
check )
I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there
is my
credit card number in the clear.

Comments?


At Micro$oft, that would be called a "feature."

That's why I've disabled it.


The CC number was typed "in the clear" and therefore stored "in the
clear" but only in the form history, not on the site or any other site.


Having it stored on my computer and easily found is only safe if I can
guarantee the physical security of my computer. Better not to store it
at all.



Exactly!

In the past I have found my CC number stored in the Windows Registry! This
sort of procedural security lapse is still rampant even tho they have closed
the software security holes.


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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Roger Fink]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>
 Rick Merrill wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this
>> nag when I try to close their window.
>>
>> E.g.,
>>
>> Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck
>> off," or should I panic and close the entire browser/email
>> program with CTRL-Q and never return?
>
> Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed
> the "kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.

 Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm.
 RUNNING the program will. So, no harm in clicking the button, SM
 won't allow running the file, only saving it.

>> Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent
>> them from pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple
>> thousands of other innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...

 Turn off javascript.
>>>
>>> Exactly the baby-with-bathwater kind of solution I'm trying to
>>> avoid. --
>> I've got an icon on my toolbar which takes me to about:blank. You
>> could set the throbber to this in about:config.
>
> If you try it with the example site linked above, you'll see that the
> popup dialog doesn't contain a throbber, and you don't have access to
> the main window until you close the nag.
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.

I'm referring to the throbber in Seamonkey, not anything on the website. 


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Re: filling out forms

[Rick Merrill]

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 24.01.2011 07:03, Rick Merrill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check, https -
check )
I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there is my
credit card number in the clear.

Comments?



That's because you typed it "in the clear" and it's stored "in the
clear" but ONLY in YOUR form history, not on the site.


Not the point!

: such information, like usernames and passwords, should not be stored in the 
clear.


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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Rick Merrill]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag
when I try to close their window.

E.g., 

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off,"
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with CTRL-Q
and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
"kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.



Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm. RUNNING
the program will.


Some people have naively enabled 'save and run' features in their  OS.
In responding to inquires like the OP's I presume the worst and hope for the 
best.



So, no harm in clicking the button, SM won't allow
running the file, only saving it.


Ed, I know you only mean to clarify, but do you really want to tell people that? It 
sounds as though you are saying 'clicks don't kill people...'


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Re: Troll killer for Seamonkey

[Rich Gray]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/12/11 5:36 PM, John wrote:

[...]

One question though, the example below is someone I would like to block
in a different newsgroup but the address looks odd:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 9TEqRaUN62VUuRWTWfCotg.user.speranza.aioe.org


The "9TEqRaUN62VUuRWTWfCotg" part may be an encrypted account
number and/or IP address.  This is often done for poster privacy
while allowing the service (aioe.org) to identify the poster.  If
this part is the same for each of the troll's posts, it is good to
filter on.



Is this some sort of work around to what you suggested or just typical
of aioe?

Thanks,
John


They're using a domain rather than an IP address.  It's not a registered
domain, so it must be internal to aioe.org.  A domain like that is often
used for a broadband connection.  Since aioe.org is not an ISP, however,
the domain is not for a broadband connection.  It thus is likely a
temporary domain, possibly for a single use.  I would filter on
"contains" (second term in the filter) and "aioe.org" (third term).



See http://aioe.org - it's a free news service.  (Perfect for trolls.)
I'm guessing that the leftmost part is an encrypted IP address.
Filtering on aioe.org will take out all posts from that service -
which might not be a bad thing.  If you are interested in filtering
out an entire service ** cough ** google groups ** cough **, a better
header field (IIRC) is Xref:, because it is always provided in the
header summaries a newsreader gets.  Filtering on other fields, such
as variations of posting host will usually require additional header
info or sometimes the entire header to be fetched, depending on the
setup of the news service and/or newsreader.  This can make the
header retrieval process go a lot slower.

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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[David E. Ross]

On 1/24/11 12:21 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag 
> when I try to close their window.
> 
> E.g., 
> 
> Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off," 
> or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with CTRL-Q 
> and never return?
> 
> Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent them from 
> pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple thousands of other 
> innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Install the PrefBar extension from
.  The
JavaScript checkbox (not the Javascript (Tab) checkbox) is part of the
default PrefBar toolbar.

I normally run with the JavaScript checkbox checked, thus with
JavaScript enabled.  When I encounter a situation like yours, I go to
another tab or window and uncheck the checkbox to disable JavaScript for
ALL windows and tabs.  That stops JavaScript.  After I close the
offending window or tab, I again check the checkbox to re-enable
JavaScript.

I also installed the AdBlock Plus extension from
 and setup a custom filter to block the
offending site.

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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag
when I try to close their window.

E.g., 

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off,"
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with
CTRL-Q
and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
"kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.


Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm. RUNNING
the program will. So, no harm in clicking the button, SM won't allow
running the file, only saving it.


Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent them
from
pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple thousands of other
innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Turn off javascript.


Exactly the baby-with-bathwater kind of solution I'm trying to avoid.



It's the only one I know of. If you want a solution, there it is.  Not 
ideal, but that's how they do it and that's how you prevent it.


You asked, I told.  ;-)

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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this
nag when I try to close their window.

E.g.,

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck
off," or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program
with CTRL-Q and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
"kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.


Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm.
RUNNING the program will. So, no harm in clicking the button, SM
won't allow running the file, only saving it.


Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent
them from pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple
thousands of other innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Turn off javascript.


Exactly the baby-with-bathwater kind of solution I'm trying to avoid.

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I've got an icon on my toolbar which takes me to about:blank. You
could set
the throbber to this in about:config.


If you try it with the example site linked above, you'll see that the
popup dialog doesn't contain a throbber,


No, but the main SM screen under the pop-up DOES contain the unmodified 
SM window.  Won't help anyway ... clicking on anything to link away from 
the page doesn't matter.  You still have to repsong to the pop-up.



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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Ed Mullen]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag
when I try to close their window.

E.g., 

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off,"
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with
CTRL-Q
and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed the
"kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.



Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm. RUNNING
the program will.


Some people have naively enabled 'save and run' features in their OS.
In responding to inquires like the OP's I presume the worst and hope for
the best.



So, no harm in clicking the button, SM won't allow
running the file, only saving it.


Ed, I know you only mean to clarify, but do you really want to tell
people that? It sounds as though you are saying 'clicks don't kill
people...'



Well, in the defined context of what I said, yes.  No Mozilla browser of 
which I'm aware will allow an executable to run, only option is to save. 
 That means the user will have to then go find the offending file and 
make a conscious effort to click and run it.  If so, that user deserves 
what the they get because they haven't a clue about what they are doing. 
 Drive a car without wearing a seatbelt.  I always wear one and not 
because the gummint tells me to - because my life has been saved more 
than once by wearing them.


And, no, clicks don't kill people.  People kill themselves when they 
haven't bothered to educate themselves about clicking.


Carrying the gun analogy on ... in October I visited friends in 
Colorado.  He (a Navy Captain) took me to his shooting range.  Safety 
was his first concern.  But I got to fire (as many shots as I cared to) 
about 8 weapons including an AR-15.  I was happily nailing targets a 
couple of hundred yards away.  With my friend's expert guidance it was a 
safe experience.  And a learning one.  I like learning.  It's why I'm here.


No.  Clicks don't kill people.  People who don't know what a click can 
do kill computers.  But, to my knowledge, no one has ever died from 
uninformed and stupid computing.  Oh, ok, maybe some bank accounts 
rifled and such but, still, clicking and killing?  Not.


So, yes, clicks don't kill anyone.  Clicking when you don't have a clue 
... yeah, study before you click.


Don't drive without studying how.  Don't shoot without studying how. 
Don't work on the electrical system in your house before studying.  Etc.


Which is, basically, saying:  Don't be an ass, look before you leap. 
And, yeah, I know, computers have become sorta like toasters.  Still, do 
you stick a knife in your toaster to retrieve a piece of bread?  Didn't 
your mamma tell you about that?


Bad computing!  :-)
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Re: Main password unresponsive

[Rufus]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

David E. Ross a écrit :


To see your master password as (or after) you enter it, install the Show
Password On Input extension at
.




Nah, my password was fine before I left from vacation, so that's not the
problem. The problem is the fact that SM runs as usual *after* I clicked
the cancel button, thus beating the purpose of having a main password.

Unless the main password doesn't do what I think it is meant to.

S.


This sounds like what I've been complaining about - a bit.

SM asks for my Master when it is seemingly not needed, even though I 
have my Pref set to only ask the first time it is needed...at some 
random point into my session, the Master Password tab just appears even 
though I haven't opened or asked for Mail or navigated to a page 
requiring a password.


SM will continue to run "normally" if I hit Cancel, and I would expect 
that - only not to have the information which would have been filled in 
presented after I hit Cancel, and on that point it seems to be working 
as I expect.  I just don't see any reason why it's not behaving in 
accord with my Preference setting.


The *really* annoying bug is that if this happens when a download 
selection (i.e.; selecting where to store the file) is in progress SM 
locks up and I have to Force Quit SM and restart a new the session to 
get SM out of being locked up.


This has been broken on the Mac version since about SM 1.1.16, as I recall.

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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Rick Merrill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this
nag when I try to close their window.

E.g.,

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck
off," or should I panic and close the entire browser/email
program with CTRL-Q and never return?


Never click anything on such a site. They may have reprogrammed
the "kill' button to give permission to download an EXE trojan.


Yes, but downloading an .exe file isn't going to cause any harm.
RUNNING the program will. So, no harm in clicking the button, SM
won't allow running the file, only saving it.


Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent
them from pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple
thousands of other innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...


Turn off javascript.


Exactly the baby-with-bathwater kind of solution I'm trying to
avoid. --

I've got an icon on my toolbar which takes me to about:blank. You
could set the throbber to this in about:config.


If you try it with the example site linked above, you'll see that the
popup dialog doesn't contain a throbber, and you don't have access to
the main window until you close the nag.

--
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I'm referring to the throbber in Seamonkey, not anything on the website.


So'm I.

With the nag showing, any click in the SeaMonkey window outside the nag 
gets you an error clunk. So like I said perfectly clearly the first 
time, "the popup dialog doesn't contain a throbber, and you don't have 
access to the main window until you close the nag."


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Re: Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


On 1/24/11 12:21 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Some sites really don't want to let me leave -- they pop up this nag
when I try to close their window.

E.g.,

Is it harmless enough to click "Yes, I really do want you to fuck off,"
or should I panic and close the entire browser/email program with CTRL-Q
and never return?

Even better, is there a setting in SeaMonkey that will prevent them from
pulling this? Preferably one that doesn't cripple thousands of other
innocuous sites doing legitimate stuff...

Thanks.


Install the PrefBar extension from
.  The
JavaScript checkbox (not the Javascript (Tab) checkbox) is part of the
default PrefBar toolbar.

I normally run with the JavaScript checkbox checked, thus with
JavaScript enabled.  When I encounter a situation like yours, I go to
another tab or window and uncheck the checkbox to disable JavaScript for
ALL windows and tabs.  That stops JavaScript.  After I close the
offending window or tab, I again check the checkbox to re-enable
JavaScript.


Sounds tempting, thanks.


I also installed the AdBlock Plus extension from
  and setup a custom filter to block the
offending site.


Well, I can't know it's an offending site until after the fact... ;-\

What would be really cool is if ABP could block the nag but let the rest 
of the content through. Unfortunately, it has no URL to operate on.


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Re: filling out forms

[Philip Chee]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:03:12 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote:
> After filling out a form on a "SECURE website" (padlock - check, https - 
> check )
> I later looked at the Tool, "Form History" and found, bingo, there is my 
> credit card 
> number in the clear.
> 
> Comments?

There is bug open (Form History is shared code) to avoid saving credit
card numbers, SSN numbers and other similar numeric sequences.

Phil

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Using the sidebar search

[Rex]

I haven't used the search sidebar for a while, now I find that it shows 
search results in a tab, rather than within the sidebar. How do I get 
back that behavior? I've installed the xsidebar extension as well.

Also, the button for adding an engine doesn't work.

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