Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread Misak Khachatryan 

Philip Chee wrote:

Hi!

SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the
Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need
volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1

Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/
SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/

Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new
Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar.

Phil

(also posted to Mozillazine
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2210021)



There is a long standing bug with Lighning - some RSS feeds stopping to 
work for me. Disabling Lightning helps. Anyone have similar behavior ?


Misak
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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread NoOp 
On 05/26/2011 02:30 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the
> Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need
> volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1
> 
> Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here:
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/
> SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here:
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/
> 
> Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new
> Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar.
...

I've been running 1.0b4pre since it was available on SeaMonkey 2.1 linux
(32 & 64 bit) for some time now w/o any issues. Also tested on Win7 &
WinXP - again no issues. 1.0b4pre also picked up my previous calendars
w/o issues.



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Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-26 Thread NoOp 
On 05/25/2011 10:15 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Wed, 25 May 2011 11:17:19 -0700, /NoOp/:
...
>> Interesting & thanks for the link. Running the test in SeaMonkey 2.1RC1
>> (linux 32bit) I finally had to kill the test (it was just flipping
>> between 1 & 2 fps). In Opera I get 8 fps (I have an old nVida NV25GL
>> [Quadro4 900 XGL] workstation card on this machine). In Google Chrome &
>> Chromium 9 fps, epihany 4 fps, Firefox 4.0.1 4 fps (takes the cpu to 100%).
> 
> Users with older video cards/drivers are likely to get no hardware 
> acceleration at all:
> 
> http://blog.mozilla.com/bjacob/2011/03/04/upgrade-your-graphics-drivers/
> 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers
> 

Yeah... looks like I'll eventually need to look into spending a few $$'s
for new cards.
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Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-26 Thread NoOp 
On 05/26/2011 12:00 AM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> Interesting&  thanks for the link. Running the test in SeaMonkey 2.1RC1
>> (linux 32bit) I finally had to kill the test (it was just flipping
>> between 1&  2 fps). In Opera I get 8 fps (I have an old nVida NV25GL
>> [Quadro4 900 XGL] workstation card on this machine). In Google Chrome&
>> Chromium 9 fps, epihany 4 fps, Firefox 4.0.1 4 fps (takes the cpu to 100%).
>>
>>
> On Linux 64bit in SM-2.2a1pre, the test maxed out..
> 
> 

I'm jealous! I do manage to get 30 fps on my laptop (linux 64bit
w/Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller) with SM 2.1RC1
(64bit).

Same machine: 15 fps w/Opera, 18 fps /chromium, 32 fps w/Firefox 4.0.1 &
oddly enough I can get it to run at all w/epiphany on this one.

So in this case, Mozilla is clearly the winner on that machine.

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Re: Plan to Eliminate Address Area (URL Bar) Panned at Slashdot

2011-05-26 Thread Chris Ilias 

On 11-05-25 6:47 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/25/11 2:55 PM, Mike wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

According to Slashdot, Mozilla Labs is evaluating whether to eliminate
the address area from Firefox.  See
.
   The discussion at Slashdot also has some very negative comments about
the elimination of the status bar, which has already happened in Firefox.

PLEASE don't implement either of these dis-improvements in SeaMonkey.  I
use SeaMonkey because I think it has a superior user interface when
compared with Firefox.  The address area and status bar are both parts
of the user interface that I use.


   From the linked article:

"A guest blog post by community member, David Regev"

He's a community member. Not part of Mozilla.


The page is hosted by Mozilla Labs, which should lend some credence to
how serious this is.


The purpose of Mozilla Labs is to experiment ideas to see if they work. 
Some ideas get adopted by Firefox (e.g. Sync), and some don't (e.g. 
Ubiquity).


If you want to let them know your opinion,
Install the extension, then let Mozilla Labs know what your experience 
was like.


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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread Philip Chee 
On Thu, 26 May 2011 13:55:34 +0200, seam...@taz.de wrote:

> I tried Lightning 1.0b4pre with a German Version of Seamonkey 2.1 RC1:
> 
>  -  The "Settings" in the about:addons - Window can't be accessed
> (jar:file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/omni.jar!/chrome/messenger/content/messenger/preferences/preferences.xul
> can't be found)

You should be able to access the Lightning preferences via the SeaMonkey
Preference window.
Edit->Preferences
Then click on the Lightning branch of the preference tree to expand that
branch.

Phil

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Re: SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

chicagofan wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

For the second time, I am having a problem with ONE newsgroup not
loading. It's the same newsgroup and when I click to open it, TWO
applications of the news server appear in my Task Manager and it
consumes 100% of the CPU... and can not load.

The last time this happened I just gave up, subscribed again and reset
all of my filters, which happens to be quite a job in that ng. Is
there
anything I can do to get around whatever is happening... or does
anyone
have any idea WHAT is happening? TIA.
bj

Did you try right clicking on the newsgroup, select properties and then
click Rebuild Summary File?

No, I haven't tried that. Thanks for the suggestion. :)

Interesting. Out of curiosity, I tried it myself (had never done it
before). CPU spiked to 95-99% and stayed there for about 10 minutes,
while RAM usage spiked from 150 MB (I had a video loaded) to about 320
MB, bounced around for awhile in that general range. Finally, SM
returned to normal and I was able to read messages and browse again.

However, when it did, the unread message count in this NG was zero,
despite the presence of six unread messages (in bold). As I advanced
through them using "N," the count stayed at zero, and when I got to the
last one, "N" prompted me to go to the first unread message in my mail
inbox.

My view settings were:
Sort by: Order received, Ascending, Threaded
Messages: All
Threads: Threads with unread

When the process completed, my threads setting had been changed to
"all." After I read all unread messages, I set it back to "Threads with
unread," and all threads disappeared as they should. In the past, when
it got confused about message count, it would display some threads
containing no unread messages. And it would also advance to unread
messages in response to "N."

We'll see how long this lasts before it gets confused again.


LOL! We had the same settings, and mine reset to show ALL threads as
well. I also remembered that it probably opened easily after rebuilding,
because it had dropped *everything*... that was prior to *that* day.


Well, the answer is, it lasted less than a day. It now shows a count of 
one unread message, but there are no unread messages and when I hit "N" 
it offers to advance to the first unread message in my mail inbox. It 
also displays several threads, including this one, that have no unread 
messages.


Since I'm a bit busy right now, I can't afford for the program to be 
completely unresponsive at 95% CPU for ten minutes, so I won't rebuild 
the summary file again. Not that it helped any...


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Re: SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-26 Thread chicagofan 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

WLS wrote:
 

chicagofan wrote:
   

For the second time, I am having a problem with ONE newsgroup not
loading. It's the same newsgroup and when I click to open it, TWO
applications of the news server appear in my Task Manager and it
consumes 100% of the CPU... and can not load.

The last time this happened I just gave up, subscribed again and reset
all of my filters, which happens to be quite a job in that ng. Is there
anything I can do to get around whatever is happening... or does anyone
have any idea WHAT is happening? TIA.
bj
 

Did you try right clicking on the newsgroup, select properties and then
click Rebuild Summary File?
   

No, I haven't tried that. Thanks for the suggestion. :)
 

Interesting. Out of curiosity, I tried it myself (had never done it
before). CPU spiked to 95-99% and stayed there for about 10 minutes,
while RAM usage spiked from 150 MB (I had a video loaded) to about 320
MB, bounced around for awhile in that general range. Finally, SM
returned to normal and I was able to read messages and browse again.

However, when it did, the unread message count in this NG was zero,
despite the presence of six unread messages (in bold). As I advanced
through them using "N," the count stayed at zero, and when I got to the
last one, "N" prompted me to go to the first unread message in my mail
inbox.

My view settings were:
Sort by: Order received, Ascending, Threaded
Messages: All   
Threads: Threads with unread

When the process completed, my threads setting had been changed to
"all." After I read all unread messages, I set it back to "Threads with
unread," and all threads disappeared as they should. In the past, when
it got confused about message count, it would display some threads
containing no unread messages. And it would also advance to unread
messages in response to "N."

We'll see how long this lasts before it gets confused again.

   
LOL!   We had the same settings, and mine reset to show ALL threads as 
well.  I also remembered that it probably opened easily after 
rebuilding, because it had dropped *everything*... that was prior to 
*that* day.

bj



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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread Stefan Sitter 

Francesco Presel wrote:

I have been using the "latest-comm-central" builds on SM2.1 rc1
(linux x64; I've also used lightning x64), without any problems.

I've noticed, though, that there's no l10n version for lightning
miramar for linux x64 (whereas, there is an English version for linux
x64, and there are localized versions for all other OSs), which I
find quite annoying, because it's not nice to have the mail and
newsgroups window half in Italian and half in English. Is there a
particular reason for that? Is there a way to get a localized linux64
version?


I filed Bug 659992. Lets see if you get an answer :)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659992

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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread Stefan Sitter 

seam...@taz.de wrote:


 -  The "Settings" in the about:addons - Window can't be accessed
(jar:file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/omni.jar!/chrome/messenger/content/messenger/preferences/preferences.xul
can't be found)


Known. It is still in discussion if the workaround from SeaMonkey 2.0 
will be ported to SeaMonkey 2.1 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636104



- Activating/Deactivating Calendars in the left Pane inside the
Calendar-Window doesn't work or somehow needs the same setting set
by right-clicking on the calendar and activating/deactivating
calendars in the Properties-Page.


This are actually different functions.

The checkbox next to the calendar name in the left pane toggles only the 
calendar display. If unchecked the calendar will still be loaded, you 
will get reminders for the events in the calendar but you won't see the 
events in the calendar or task view.


The checkbox in the properties dialog can be used to completely switch 
off the calendar. The calendar will not be loaded and therefore you will 
not see reminders or events.



Is there already a german version ?


Localized test builds can be downloaded from 
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar-l10n/


Please note that if the localization is not up-to-date the test builds 
might not work at all and break in many ways. I think the page 
https://l10n-stage-sj.mozilla.org/dashboard/?tree=calendar10x shows the 
localization status for Lightning 1.0b4pre.



Will there be keyboard-shortcuts for accessing the calendar-tab from
within the mail-window or from the main menu ? (ctrl+shift+C/D didn't
work here with Lightning 1.0b2 and SM 2.0.x) ?


Known.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514512

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Re: Plan to Eliminate Address Area (URL Bar) Panned at Slashdot

2011-05-26 Thread Ray_Net 

PhillipJones wrote:

Mike wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

According to Slashdot, Mozilla Labs is evaluating whether to eliminate
the address area from Firefox. See
.


The discussion at Slashdot also has some very negative comments about
the elimination of the status bar, which has already happened in
Firefox.

PLEASE don't implement either of these dis-improvements in SeaMonkey. I
use SeaMonkey because I think it has a superior user interface when
compared with Firefox. The address area and status bar are both parts
of the user interface that I use.


From the linked article:

"A guest blog post by community member, David Regev"

He's a community member. Not part of Mozilla.


Not only there but reports on ZDnet, cNet, and Computerworld

It is the most Dumba** idea anyone has ever come up with. I have a 17"
LapTop and 17" Monitor for my desktop if I can see what I need to
missing a 1/8 of an inch or less, I have more problems than just an
extra 1/8' inch.

Come on folks Just because Google does something Dumb. we don't have to
follow suit. as one article said how are people going to figure what
websites a Spam or Phishing. Come on Guys and Gals use some common sense
if you have any.


The next step is to remove the body of the web page :-)
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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread Francesco Presel 

Philip Chee ha scritto:

Hi!

SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the
Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need
volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1

Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/
SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/

Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new
Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar.

Phil

(also posted to Mozillazine
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2210021)



I have been using the "latest-comm-central" builds on SM2.1 rc1 (linux 
x64; I've also used lightning x64), without any problems.


I've noticed, though, that there's no l10n version for lightning miramar 
for linux x64 (whereas, there is an English version for linux x64, and 
there are localized versions for all other OSs), which I find quite 
annoying, because it's not nice to have the mail and newsgroups window 
half in Italian and half in English.
Is there a particular reason for that? Is there a way to get a localized 
linux64 version?


TIA
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Re: Auto complete for form filling

2011-05-26 Thread Telsentwo 
On May 26, 1:28 pm, Daniel  wrote:
> telsen...@firenet.uk.com wrote:
> > Having just switched from Opera to SeaMonkey, one thing i am already
> > missing is the auto complete used in Opera for filling in address and
> > name details etc. in on-line forms, I have looked through the add-ons
> > but unable to find anything so far.
>
> > Does anyone plan to develop something like this as an add on or have i
> > just missed something.
>
> > Ian Johnson
>
> Ian, no, you haven't missed something.
>
> SeaMonkey Version 1.x.x did have an auto-fill function, but the re-write
> of the program for Version 2.x.x dis-abled this ability, but there
> were/are extensions that "sort of" did it.
>
> I think the soon-to-be-released Version 2.1 might have this form-filling
> function re-installed as part of it's Data Manager function.we
> should find out in the next week or so!!
>
> Ver 2.1 Release Noteshttp://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/
>
> --
> Daniel


Thanks Daniel for your reply, lets hope the new version does support
this/

Regards

Ian
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Re: Auto complete for form filling

2011-05-26 Thread Daniel 

telsen...@firenet.uk.com wrote:

Having just switched from Opera to SeaMonkey, one thing i am already
missing is the auto complete used in Opera for filling in address and
name details etc. in on-line forms, I have looked through the add-ons
but unable to find anything so far.

Does anyone plan to develop something like this as an add on or have i
just missed something.

Ian Johnson


Ian, no, you haven't missed something.

SeaMonkey Version 1.x.x did have an auto-fill function, but the re-write 
of the program for Version 2.x.x dis-abled this ability, but there 
were/are extensions that "sort of" did it.


I think the soon-to-be-released Version 2.1 might have this form-filling 
function re-installed as part of it's Data Manager function.we 
should find out in the next week or so!!


Ver 2.1 Release Notes
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/

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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread seamon2 
Philip Chee schrieb:
> Hi!
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the
> Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need
> volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1
...

Hi,
I tried Lightning 1.0b4pre with a German Version of Seamonkey 2.1 RC1:

 -  The "Settings" in the about:addons - Window can't be accessed
(jar:file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/omni.jar!/chrome/messenger/content/messenger/preferences/preferences.xul
can't be found)

 - Activating/Deactivating Calendars in the left Pane inside the
Calendar-Window doesn't work or somehow needs the same setting set by
right-clicking on the calendar and activating/deactivating calendars in
the Properties-Page.

Is there already a german version ?
Will there be keyboard-shortcuts for accessing the calendar-tab from
within the mail-window or from the main menu ? (ctrl+shift+C/D didn't
work here with Lightning 1.0b2 and SM 2.0.x) ?

Best regards,
Gerd

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Auto complete for form filling

2011-05-26 Thread Telsentwo 
Having just switched from Opera to SeaMonkey, one thing i am already
missing is the auto complete used in Opera for filling in address and
name details etc. in on-line forms, I have looked through the add-ons
but unable to find anything so far.

Does anyone plan to develop something like this as an add on or have i
just missed something.

Ian Johnson
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Re: SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-26 Thread Manuel Reimer 

WLS wrote:

Also updating to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 might help. Maybe a bug was fixed.


That's the first thing, he *has to* do, as 2.0.10 contains several 
security holes!


Yours

Manuel

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Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-26 Thread Philip Chee 
Hi!

SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the
Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need
volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1

Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/
SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/

Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new
Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar.

Phil

(also posted to Mozillazine
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2210021)

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Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour 

NoOp wrote:

On 05/25/2011 10:38 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 22 May 2011 07:32:50 -0700, /Ant/:

On 5/22/2011 7:27 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed:

Ant wrote:


If so, then is there a way to disable it?

SM 2.1 (ETA next week) will support all accelerations Firefox 4
supports, i.e. D2D, D3D etc. but you can easily disable them all via
Preferences. AFAIK SM 2.0 has none of these.

Ah cool! I hope it is by the long Memorial Day weekend so I can play
with it! ;)

Note, Windows XP user currently get less hardware acceleration than
Vista/7 users.  The plan is to enable full hardware acceleration on
Windows XP, too, but I don't know which Gecko/Firefox it is expected
to land with.  I don't know what are the plans for the next
SeaMonkey version (would based on which Gecko version?), also.

http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/09/hardware-acceleration/


Interesting&  thanks for the link. Running the test in SeaMonkey 2.1RC1
(linux 32bit) I finally had to kill the test (it was just flipping
between 1&  2 fps). In Opera I get 8 fps (I have an old nVida NV25GL
[Quadro4 900 XGL] workstation card on this machine). In Google Chrome&
Chromium 9 fps, epihany 4 fps, Firefox 4.0.1 4 fps (takes the cpu to 100%).



On Linux 64bit in SM-2.2a1pre, the test maxed out..


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