Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-27 Thread Michael Ströder

Philip Chee wrote:

Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/
SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/


I'm using Seamonkey 2.1rc1 Linux 64Bit and installed your Lightning build. The 
export of a calendar does not work. The file is created but there's no data 
written to it (zero bytes).


Ciao, Michael.
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iGoogle gmail gadget flashing

2011-05-27 Thread Jim Dell

Anybody using iGoogle with the gmail gadget?

When I click on the gMail gadget in the left column, my gmail comes up 
but it flashes making it difficult to select the spam folder to see if 
any real messages are in there.


Same problem with Firefox 4, but works okay with Chrome.

Using Windows 7 64bit SeaMonkey 2.0.14.

Jim
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email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Tom S.
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro 
SP3. Here is what I often see when opening an 
email message for the first time:


http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area 
like this when pressing F8 to view an email?


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Re: prefetch web pages

2011-05-27 Thread Rick Merrill

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 19.05.2011 18:03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:


On 19.05.2011 15:56, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:


Since a prefetched page(s) is/are put to cache, I don't know if
there is any indication that those pages are the ones
prefetched.

And .. I think that this prefetch function is only workable as
intended with a slow dialup type connection. My main website
with over 800 pages is quickly accessed to any page from any page
quite quickly. I don't really think I could tell the difference
with/without prefetch.


I like to watch videos online, and even with a broadband
connection (about 25 MB/min or 1500 kBps), they can sometimes take
awhile to load (probably due to slow/busy servers). For example, if
my 36-minute program is broken into three 12-minute chunks, I
routinely open three tabs, and launch all three chunks, then
quickly pause the second and third ones, allowing them to load
without playing. I view the first one, and by the time I'm done,
the second is ready to go. Automatic prefetching could come in
handy here, especially since the website links the second and third
chunks to the first and I have bandwidth to burn.


Prefetch does nothing the first time you access the videos. And I
don't think that's the purpose of prefetching anyway. Prefetch as I
understand it is for pages with multiple links referencing other
pages on the same site,


... which is exactly the case I'm describing. The page that embeds part
1 of the vid has a link to part 2, and I could watch all of part 1 and
then click the link, or else I could right-click the link and say open
in new tab. The second option is the one I choose -- I'm doing manual
prefetching, so that when I'm finished with part 1, part 2 is loaded and
ready to go. Some of the sites I visit even recommend this buffering
technique to avoid choppiness when a server can't keep up.


e.g., the prefetch link in the header of the index page would
reflectlink rel=prefetch ...


... and that's the answer to the OP's question: look in the source code
forlink rel=prefetch  If it has such a link, it's set up for
prefetching; if not, it's not.


Has anyone seen or written such source code?  This is the most logical response,
and it presumably creates the desired result of making the remainder of the site
faster to access.


You're not actually prefetching by definition,


No. Getting data before it is needed IS prefetching.
e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch


just loading in another
tab but accomplishing 'basically' the same thing.


No. it is not another tab.
e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch


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Re: prefetch web pages

2011-05-27 Thread Rick Merrill

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/19/11 10:11 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/19/11 9:16 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:

On 19.05.2011 10:33, David E. Ross wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


On 5/19/11 8:18 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:

On 19.05.2011 08:51, Rick Merrill wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


How can you tell if a site you frequent
is setup to use prefetch of web pages?

...


Obviously, prefetching would not cause a Web page to appear in a user's
browser before the user requests it.  The prefectched page does come
from the cache, but it went into the cache by being prefetched from the
Web before the user requested it.


Now that we've covered the obvious ;-)  how can you tell if a website
is, and I quote from SeaMonkey, designed for prefetch ???




You have to examine the source HTML of the page.  Betweenhead  and
/head, it should havelink  tags with the rel=prefetch attribute
and value.



Thanks. If one is 'googling' that would be a good time to disable the feature 
because
it could load your browser cache with the rest of the site while all you sought 
was
the one page with the keywords.


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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-27 Thread NoOp
On 05/27/2011 01:05 AM, Michael Ströder wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here:
 https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/
 SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/
 
 I'm using Seamonkey 2.1rc1 Linux 64Bit and installed your Lightning build. 
 The 
 export of a calendar does not work. The file is created but there's no data 
 written to it (zero bytes).
 
 Ciao, Michael.

Works for me:
BEGIN:VCALENDAR
PRODID:-//Mozilla.org/NONSGML Mozilla Calendar V1.1//EN
VERSION:2.0
BEGIN:VEVENT
CREATED:20101214T002658Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20101214T002731Z
DTSTAMP:20101214T002731Z

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1
and
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1

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Re: Auto complete for form filling

2011-05-27 Thread Jens Hatlak

Daniel wrote:

SeaMonkey Version 1.x.x did have an auto-fill function, but the re-write
of the program for Version 2.x.x dis-abled this ability, but there
were/are extensions that sort of did it.

I think the soon-to-be-released Version 2.1 might have this form-filling
function re-installed as part of it's Data Manager function.


No, but the add-on that worked for SM 2.0 should also work for 2.1.

HTH

Jens

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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Michael Gordon

Tom S. wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
often see when opening an email message for the first time:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when pressing
F8 to view an email?



Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected.  Try selecting 
Normal


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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Arne

Michael Gordon wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
often see when opening an email message for the first time:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when pressing
F8 to view an email?



Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected. Try selecting
Normal


Strange, I have it set to All and still never seen anything like that?

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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Tom S.

Michael Gordon wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
often see when opening an email message for the first time:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when pressing
F8 to view an email?



Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected. Try selecting
Normal

Michael g


Nope. The headers setting isn't set for All. It's 
usually set for Normal or sometimes Extended 
Normal. The problem is showing in the message 
body.  It only does this kind of thing on the 
first message selected.  If I go to another 
message, it will show OK. Then, when I go back to 
the first message, it also will show the way it 
should.  BTW, it doesn't matter whether it is an 
html or plain-text message.
(Although this bug isn't a severe problem, it can 
get irritating sometimes.)


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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Tom S. wrote:

 Michael Gordon wrote:
 Tom S. wrote:
 I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
 often see when opening an email message for the first time: 
 
 http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif 
 
 Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when
 pressing F8 to view an email? 
 
 Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected. Try
 selecting Normal 
 
 Nope. The headers setting isn't set for All. It's usually set for
 Normal or sometimes Extended Normal. The problem is showing in the
 message body.  It only does this kind of thing on the first message
 selected.  If I go to another message, it will show OK. Then, when I
 go back to the first message, it also will show the way it should. 
 BTW, it doesn't matter whether it is an html or plain-text message.
 (Although this bug isn't a severe problem, it can get irritating
 sometimes.)

Time for a question:  do all the messages that behave like this come
from the same source, or emailing service?  It's obvious from your
screenshot this one is from a Canon marketing firm.

Have you looked at the source?  ( Control-U )  Can you post all the
content from the top to where the actual content begins? I'm thinking of
malformed headers...

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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Robert Gault

Tom S. wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
often see when opening an email message for the first time:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when pressing
F8 to view an email?



Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected. Try selecting
Normal

Michael g


Nope. The headers setting isn't set for All. It's usually set for Normal
or sometimes Extended Normal. The problem is showing in the message
body. It only does this kind of thing on the first message selected. If
I go to another message, it will show OK. Then, when I go back to the
first message, it also will show the way it should. BTW, it doesn't
matter whether it is an html or plain-text message.
(Although this bug isn't a severe problem, it can get irritating
sometimes.)



Check your setting for the message body, View/Message Body As/Original HTML. It 
looks like you have it set for Text.

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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Robert Gault wrote:

 Check your setting for the message body, View/Message Body As/Original
 HTML. It looks like you have it set for Text.

Mine is always set to Plain Text and the *headers* never show in the
content viewing pane.

I'm still thinking malformed email.  shrug

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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Tom S. wrote:


Michael Gordon wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
often see when opening an email message for the first time:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when pressing
F8 to view an email?



Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected. Try selecting
Normal

Michael g


Nope. The headers setting isn't set for All. It's usually set for Normal
or sometimes Extended Normal. The problem is showing in the message
body. It only does this kind of thing on the first message selected. If
I go to another message, it will show OK. Then, when I go back to the
first message, it also will show the way it should. BTW, it doesn't
matter whether it is an html or plain-text message.
(Although this bug isn't a severe problem, it can get irritating
sometimes.)


I've occasionally seen something like this with HTML messages, for a 
random assortments of senders. Selecting another message and then 
returning fixes it. But I haven't seen the full-monty source code you're 
getting; what I've seen is poorly rendered HTML, most often application 
of the wrong charset. Going and returning apparently forces it to reread 
the header and apply the correct charset.




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Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-05-27 Thread Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez
El 26/05/11 11:30, Philip Chee escribió:
 Hi!
 
 SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the
 Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need
 volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1
 
 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here:
 https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/
 SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/


I'm not an intensive user of Lightning, but I've been working with it
since I migrated to SM 2.1 (as of SM2.1b3, IIRC) and I only noticed
some minor aesthetic issues, which are gone since Lightning 1.0b4pre.

Ricardo

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Re: prefetch web pages

2011-05-27 Thread Jay Garcia
On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 19.05.2011 18:03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

   --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:

 On 19.05.2011 15:56, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:

 Since a prefetched page(s) is/are put to cache, I don't know if
 there is any indication that those pages are the ones
 prefetched.

 And .. I think that this prefetch function is only workable as
 intended with a slow dialup type connection. My main website
 with over 800 pages is quickly accessed to any page from any page
 quite quickly. I don't really think I could tell the difference
 with/without prefetch.

 I like to watch videos online, and even with a broadband
 connection (about 25 MB/min or 1500 kBps), they can sometimes take
 awhile to load (probably due to slow/busy servers). For example, if
 my 36-minute program is broken into three 12-minute chunks, I
 routinely open three tabs, and launch all three chunks, then
 quickly pause the second and third ones, allowing them to load
 without playing. I view the first one, and by the time I'm done,
 the second is ready to go. Automatic prefetching could come in
 handy here, especially since the website links the second and third
 chunks to the first and I have bandwidth to burn.

 Prefetch does nothing the first time you access the videos. And I
 don't think that's the purpose of prefetching anyway. Prefetch as I
 understand it is for pages with multiple links referencing other
 pages on the same site,

 ... which is exactly the case I'm describing. The page that embeds part
 1 of the vid has a link to part 2, and I could watch all of part 1 and
 then click the link, or else I could right-click the link and say open
 in new tab. The second option is the one I choose -- I'm doing manual
 prefetching, so that when I'm finished with part 1, part 2 is loaded and
 ready to go. Some of the sites I visit even recommend this buffering
 technique to avoid choppiness when a server can't keep up.

 e.g., the prefetch link in the header of the index page would
 reflectlink rel=prefetch ...

 ... and that's the answer to the OP's question: look in the source code
 forlink rel=prefetch  If it has such a link, it's set up for
 prefetching; if not, it's not.
 
 Has anyone seen or written such source code?  This is the most logical
 response,
 and it presumably creates the desired result of making the remainder of
 the site
 faster to access.
 
 You're not actually prefetching by definition,
 
 No. Getting data before it is needed IS prefetching.
 e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch
 
 just loading in another
 tab but accomplishing 'basically' the same thing.
 
 No. it is not another tab.
 e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch
 
 

In order to fetch something it has to be retrieved from somewhere in
the local system. Prefetching in Windows fetches it's data from
/Windows/prefetch.

Firefox, SeaMonkey, etc. fetches it's data from cache. And that is the
basis of my point simply because if you cache web sites, etc. it's the
same as prefetching it when it's retrieved. I can't think offhand of
prefetching any faster than from cache - memory or from disk.

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Re: Auto complete for form filling

2011-05-27 Thread flyguy

On 5/26/2011 6:09 AM, telsen...@firenet.uk.com wrote:

On May 26, 1:28 pm, Danield...@albury.nospam.net.au  wrote:

telsen...@firenet.uk.com wrote:

Having just switched from Opera to SeaMonkey, one thing i am already
missing is the auto complete used in Opera for filling in address and
name details etc. in on-line forms, I have looked through the add-ons
but unable to find anything so far.



Does anyone plan to develop something like this as an add on or have i
just missed something.



Ian Johnson


Ian, no, you haven't missed something.

SeaMonkey Version 1.x.x did have an auto-fill function, but the re-write
of the program for Version 2.x.x dis-abled this ability, but there
were/are extensions that sort of did it.

I think the soon-to-be-released Version 2.1 might have this form-filling
function re-installed as part of it's Data Manager function.we
should find out in the next week or so!!

Ver 2.1 Release Noteshttp://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/

--
Daniel



Thanks Daniel for your reply, lets hope the new version does support
this/

Regards

Ian


I'm using SM 2.0.14 with Fireform 0.7.4 add-on, and I like it better 
than the form manager in previous versions of SM.

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Re: prefetch web pages

2011-05-27 Thread Rick Merrill

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 19.05.2011 18:03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:


On 19.05.2011 15:56, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:


Since a prefetched page(s) is/are put to cache, I don't know if
there is any indication that those pages are the ones
prefetched.

And .. I think that this prefetch function is only workable as
intended with a slow dialup type connection. My main website
with over 800 pages is quickly accessed to any page from any page
quite quickly. I don't really think I could tell the difference
with/without prefetch.


I like to watch videos online, and even with a broadband
connection (about 25 MB/min or 1500 kBps), they can sometimes take
awhile to load (probably due to slow/busy servers). For example, if
my 36-minute program is broken into three 12-minute chunks, I
routinely open three tabs, and launch all three chunks, then
quickly pause the second and third ones, allowing them to load
without playing. I view the first one, and by the time I'm done,
the second is ready to go. Automatic prefetching could come in
handy here, especially since the website links the second and third
chunks to the first and I have bandwidth to burn.


Prefetch does nothing the first time you access the videos. And I
don't think that's the purpose of prefetching anyway. Prefetch as I
understand it is for pages with multiple links referencing other
pages on the same site,


... which is exactly the case I'm describing. The page that embeds part
1 of the vid has a link to part 2, and I could watch all of part 1 and
then click the link, or else I could right-click the link and say open
in new tab. The second option is the one I choose -- I'm doing manual
prefetching, so that when I'm finished with part 1, part 2 is loaded and
ready to go. Some of the sites I visit even recommend this buffering
technique to avoid choppiness when a server can't keep up.


e.g., the prefetch link in the header of the index page would
reflectlink rel=prefetch ...


... and that's the answer to the OP's question: look in the source code
forlink rel=prefetch  If it has such a link, it's set up for
prefetching; if not, it's not.


Has anyone seen or written such source code?  This is the most logical
response,
and it presumably creates the desired result of making the remainder of
the site
faster to access.


You're not actually prefetching by definition,


No. Getting data before it is needed IS prefetching.
e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch


just loading in another
tab but accomplishing 'basically' the same thing.


No. it is not another tab.
e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch



I can't think offhand of
prefetching any faster than from cache - memory or from disk.


wE HAVE agreed that prefetch fill cache. But that is not always what you want.
Nevertheless, if you are browsing a site, that site will *appear* to the user to be 
fast because of the pre-cached data.


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Re: prefetch web pages

2011-05-27 Thread Jay Garcia
On 27.05.2011 18:11, Rick Merrill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote:

   --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 19.05.2011 18:03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

--- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:

 On 19.05.2011 15:56, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:

 Since a prefetched page(s) is/are put to cache, I don't know if
 there is any indication that those pages are the ones
 prefetched.

 And .. I think that this prefetch function is only workable as
 intended with a slow dialup type connection. My main website
 with over 800 pages is quickly accessed to any page from any page
 quite quickly. I don't really think I could tell the difference
 with/without prefetch.

 I like to watch videos online, and even with a broadband
 connection (about 25 MB/min or 1500 kBps), they can sometimes take
 awhile to load (probably due to slow/busy servers). For example, if
 my 36-minute program is broken into three 12-minute chunks, I
 routinely open three tabs, and launch all three chunks, then
 quickly pause the second and third ones, allowing them to load
 without playing. I view the first one, and by the time I'm done,
 the second is ready to go. Automatic prefetching could come in
 handy here, especially since the website links the second and third
 chunks to the first and I have bandwidth to burn.

 Prefetch does nothing the first time you access the videos. And I
 don't think that's the purpose of prefetching anyway. Prefetch as I
 understand it is for pages with multiple links referencing other
 pages on the same site,

 ... which is exactly the case I'm describing. The page that embeds
 part
 1 of the vid has a link to part 2, and I could watch all of part 1 and
 then click the link, or else I could right-click the link and say
 open
 in new tab. The second option is the one I choose -- I'm doing manual
 prefetching, so that when I'm finished with part 1, part 2 is
 loaded and
 ready to go. Some of the sites I visit even recommend this buffering
 technique to avoid choppiness when a server can't keep up.

 e.g., the prefetch link in the header of the index page would
 reflectlink rel=prefetch ...

 ... and that's the answer to the OP's question: look in the source
 code
 forlink rel=prefetch  If it has such a link, it's set up for
 prefetching; if not, it's not.

 Has anyone seen or written such source code?  This is the most logical
 response,
 and it presumably creates the desired result of making the remainder of
 the site
 faster to access.

 You're not actually prefetching by definition,

 No. Getting data before it is needed IS prefetching.
 e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch

 just loading in another
 tab but accomplishing 'basically' the same thing.

 No. it is not another tab.
 e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch


 I can't think offhand of
 prefetching any faster than from cache - memory or from disk.
 
 wE HAVE agreed that prefetch fill cache. But that is not always what you
 want.
 Nevertheless, if you are browsing a site, that site will *appear* to the
 user to be fast because of the pre-cached data.
 

Unless there is some other area where prefetched data is stored, it
comes from cache as far as I know. And if your connection speed is high
speed (HSI) then cached data is basically useless. My cache has been
zero sized for years.


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Re: Does SM 2.0.14 use more memory than 2.0.12?

2011-05-27 Thread Paul

flyguy wrote:
My memory usage runs around 50% now; previously, it was around 40% 
(using both Task manager and a Google sidebar gadget). The most notable 
change is the updated Seamonkey. Does the 2.0.14 version use more 
memory, or have a leak?


I'm using a Dell 530 with XP Pro, 4 GB of memory, 3.3 GB available after 
the video and other allocation.


IMO, that is odd.
I have SM 1119 and try as I might, I am not able to get
mem usage above 7%.  That is with 5 browser threads,
3 newsgroup threads, two youtube flash movies open, and streaming
128k bit internet music at the same time, and word and xl open,
vid card and cpu temp monitors running.
CPU, bridges, mem, and vid card severely overclocked.
Pagefile is fluctuating between 335M and 341M.
Heat output is about like a small space heater.
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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Tom S.

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom S. wrote:


Michael Gordon wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
often see when opening an email message for the first time:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when pressing
F8 to view an email?



Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected. Try selecting
Normal

Michael g


Nope. The headers setting isn't set for All. It's usually set for Normal
or sometimes Extended Normal. The problem is showing in the message
body. It only does this kind of thing on the first message selected. If
I go to another message, it will show OK. Then, when I go back to the
first message, it also will show the way it should. BTW, it doesn't
matter whether it is an html or plain-text message.
(Although this bug isn't a severe problem, it can get irritating
sometimes.)


I've occasionally seen something like this with HTML messages, for a
random assortments of senders. Selecting another message and then
returning fixes it. But I haven't seen the full-monty source code you're
getting; what I've seen is poorly rendered HTML, most often application
of the wrong charset. Going and returning apparently forces it to reread
the header and apply the correct charset.





Yes, selecting another message and then returning 
fixes it here as well.  But at times, it has 
happened on both html and plain text messages.  It 
doesn't seem to matter where the email comes from.


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Re: email viewing problem

2011-05-27 Thread Tom S.

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.14, with Windows XP Pro SP3. Here is what I
often see when opening an email message for the first time:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2ho8swm.gif

Why do I get a header mess in the message area like this when pressing
F8 to view an email?



Most likely because you have View/Headers/All selected. Try selecting
Normal

Michael g


Nope. The headers setting isn't set for All. It's usually set for Normal
or sometimes Extended Normal. The problem is showing in the message
body. It only does this kind of thing on the first message selected. If
I go to another message, it will show OK. Then, when I go back to the
first message, it also will show the way it should. BTW, it doesn't
matter whether it is an html or plain-text message.
(Although this bug isn't a severe problem, it can get irritating
sometimes.)



Check your setting for the message body, View/Message Body As/Original
HTML. It looks like you have it set for Text.


No, mine is set for Original HTML.

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Region Blocking?

2011-05-27 Thread d...@kd4e.com

The Internet is usually thought of as without boundaries,
except where renegade thuggish nations manipulate their
captive populations by manipulating information.

So, I have been surprised from time to time when I am on
a site in Europe or elsewhere and get an error saying
that some resource is not available in my region.

Is there a way to make a Web browser region-neutral?

Are these sites looking at the IP address or something
in the browser identification?

I'm just curious, I don't want to do anything illegal,
but if there is a legal way it would be nice.

I don't have an example other than the BBC in UK did this
when I went to look at a Doctor Who show - I am guessing
that is a contract-thing where other regiond get delayed
viewing.  I get that - but it is what reminded me of this
anomaly.

In the past it has been a document related to the operation
or repair of an old radio or piece of test gear - not likely
a matter of modern video licensing.

WDYT?


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