2.2 scrolling and right click issues

[dsavitsk]

I just installed 2.2 or SeaMonkey, and the center mounse button on a
Thinkpad no longer scrolls.  Plus, right clicking the tab bar no
longer opens a new tab.  Both of these are going to force me to use
something else until they are fixed.  Both were fine in 2.1
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Re: Automatic Upgrade 2.0.14 to 2.2?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Larry wrote:

Currently on 2.0.14 on XP SP3. Used to get automatic upgrades through
the 2.0.x series. Did I miss these for 2.1 and then 2.2? Or is that
still to come? (There are some concerns about the new series, but have a
feeling that there is a runaway train and I've missed it.)


No you didn't miss it, we were in the process of testing updates from 
2.0.14 -> 2.2 (and previously 2.1) These updates go through a different 
codepath than the 2.0.13->2.0.14 updates so needed testing.


These updates should also be "live" now.

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Re: this is what i hink ...

[Paul B. Gallagher]

stango wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following:

... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs
to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest
a way to implement their solution .

... if you are NOT technical you should STFU!


Save the Flying Unicorns?


No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups


Still, that's f***ed up...

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opensaml::BindingException

[BL]

Hi,
When opening  my ISP homepage in SM 2.2 with windows vista- 
http://www.optuszoo.com.au  I get error message every time: 
opensaml::BindingException at 
(http://www.optuszoo.com.au/Shibboleth.sso/SAML2/Artifact). My other 4 
profiles show same error. this is the only page this error occurs.It 
never happened with previous versions including SM 2.1. Firefox 5 opens 
this page with no problems.

Anyone gets the same error? or my upgrade got corrupt,
Thanks  BL
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Re: this is what i hink ...

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:48:29 -0400, /PhillipJones/:

stango wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following:


... if you are NOT technical you should STFU!


Save the Flying Unicorns?


No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups


I think it actually meant Shut the ^%&* Up


Or may be: "Say, Thanks for Understanding".

http://www.acronymfinder.com/STFU.html

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Re: this is what i hink ...

[PhillipJones]

stango wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following:

... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs
to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest
a way to implement their solution .

... if you are NOT technical you should STFU!


Save the Flying Unicorns?




No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups




 I think it actually meant Shut the ^%&* Up

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Re: this is what i hink ...

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM, km wrote:

... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs
to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest
a way to implement their solution .

... if you are NOT technical you should STFU!


I'm not sure if your vitriol was meant against us Developers/People who 
do code/work on SeaMonkey in our free time.


Or if it was against the users who constantly post here with suggestions 
about the software they choose to use for their daily lives, but have no 
coding knowledge.


Either way, PLEASE take this sort of comments elsewhere, they are 
unwelcome on these newsgroups.


(I for one, do NOT expect every suggestion/user/complaint to be 
accompanied by  in any form; while those who can help by coding 
their thoughts are certainly more likely to have their solution in 
SeaMonkey earlier, that is mostly due to time constraints on us few who 
do the work.)


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Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2

[Richard Lee Holbert]

Yes sir, I got a bunch of stuff

Rob Steinmetz wrote:


Richard Lee Holbert wrote:

Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 .
I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7.
I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot
of the times.
I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade.
How do I make sure this happens.
And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information
as simple as possible so I can digest it right now.
Thanks for any and all help.


If you have a lot of stuff to transfer it can take a long time.

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Re: this is what i hink ...

[stango]

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following:

... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs
to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest
a way to implement their solution .

... if you are NOT technical you should STFU!


Save the Flying Unicorns?




No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups



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Re: this is what i hink ...

[W3BNR]

On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following:

... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs
to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest
a way to implement their solution .

... if you are NOT technical you should STFU!


Save the Flying Unicorns?

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Re: performance hit (Mac)?

[PhillipJones]

Miles Fidelman wrote:

Has anybody else noticed a performance hit with the 2.1/2.2 releases?
On my Mac, I find that the newer releases spend considerably more time
waiting on connections, and displaying spinning beachballs - and
freezing everything else on my machine while doing so.




I noticed that as well when I tried them out. 2.2 wouldn't even display 
graphics in email. was set to allow. But it wiped out all plugins that 
would handle the graphics so I went back to 2.0.19


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this is what i hink ...

[km]

... it is gud  for people to make comments abt what needs
to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people  should  suggest
a way to implement their  solution .

... if you are NOT technical you should STFU!
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MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME 'I WAS NOTHING SPECIAL...

SHE WAS WRONG!!!

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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[Rostyslaw Lewyckyj]

JeffM wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

The forward charge by the bull elephants
to introduce new features is all well and good.
But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers
clean up the field between the charging elephants
and us the plodding following mass of users.
So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo.


While you're at it, don't forget the unicorns and flying monkeys.


I didn't forget, I just didn't see how to fit them into the picture :-)


The trick here is to get your notion to dovetail with
the "Scratching an itch" meme.


It's a trick all right. One I haven't managed to so far.


Humans tend to not like doing stuff they see as unglamorous.
Cleaning up the detritus left by previous occupants
tends to come under that heading.


That's an eternal truth, like the notion of motherhood and cherry pie.
I just needed to vent!
in hopes of influencing the unchangeable. :-)
 (And I know that this is now off topic and in a wrong forum)

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performance hit (Mac)?

[Miles Fidelman]

Has anybody else noticed a performance hit with the 2.1/2.2 releases?  
On my Mac, I find that the newer releases spend considerably more time 
waiting on connections, and displaying spinning beachballs - and 
freezing everything else on my machine while doing so.





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In  practice, there is.    Yogi Berra


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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[JeffM]

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
>The forward charge by the bull elephants
>to introduce new features is all well and good.
>But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers
>clean up the field between the charging elephants
>and us the plodding following mass of users.
>So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo.
>
While you're at it, don't forget the unicorns and flying monkeys.

The trick here is to get your notion to dovetail with
the "Scratching an itch" meme.
Humans tend to not like doing stuff they see as unglamorous.
Cleaning up the detritus left by previous occupants
tends to come under that heading.
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Re: Can't Enable/Disable Java using Preferences

[Dick Hoffman]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/20/11 4:54 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 07/20/2011 11:23 AM, Dick Hoffman wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

I tracked it back to this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506985
[Bug 506985 - remove java-specific preferences from Firefox UI, hidden
prefs ]

Looks like the option to disable/enable java was removed in Firefox 3.6
forward. And the Firefox solution:

Use the addons manager.




My wife points out this change has further security implications
depending on how it was implemented. Did the update that changed the
Enable/Disable of Java to the Add-ons Manager take into consideration
the user's current preference setting or did it take a default and, if
so, was the default Enable or Disable? If it took a default of Enable
there could be other chumps like me out there thinking they've got Java
disabled when they really don't.
Dick


I wouldn't argue about the security implications... but yes the default
is set to enable (I turn off/on using Prefbar). I reckon that is the
reason for the other bug reports; meaning they plan to remove the option
to turn off/on altogether in the Preferences UI on SeaMonkey. This is
one area that I think that SeaMonkey should stick to their guns and
leave the Preferences option to turn Java on/off in *and* ensure that it
works properly.

Slight added note: if you reference a bug report it is helpful to
include the url to the bug report rather than simply referring to it by
number. This way, folks not familar with bugzilla can easily click on
the link to review/comment. So your report is:

and the bug that your bug was duped to:

Which btw IMO isn't resolved/fixed as it apparently doesn't work in SM
2.1 or 2.2&  that indeed can be a security issue. You might want to add
your comments there.



This is very confusing, but I think I now understand what is happening.
  The following applies to SeaMonkey at least through version 2.2.

It appears that the Java checkbox at [Edit>  Preference>  Advanced] and
the Java checkbox in PrefBar both modify the preference variable
security.enable_java.  However, changing the checkmark at [Edit>
Preference>  Advanced] does not change the checkmark in PrefBar; but
changing the checkmark in PrefBar does change the checkmark at [Edit>
Preference>  Advanced].  Changing it at either place, does change
security.enable_java.

Toggling security.enable_java via about:config does show the changes at
[Edit>  Preference>  Advanced] but not in PrefBar.  Thus, there is an
error in PrefBar in how it displays the current state of
security.enable_java.  This is a display problem and not a problem with
using PrefBar to toggle security.enable_java.

In any case, if security.enable_java is "false" or "true", Java is
disabled or enabled.  It is not yet necessary to use the Add-ons
Manager.  The elimination of the use of security.enable_java to control
Java will likely be implemented in SeaMonkey 2.3 or shortly thereafter,
when the Add-on Manager will become the only way to disable or enable
Java.

My finding was that the state of security.enable_java has no impact on 
the execution status of Java in SM 2.1 or 2.2. That only via the AOM can 
Java be enabled or disabled, which seems to be what the bugzilla reports 
are saying. I didn't play with the settings directly in prefs.js or via 
about:config so I may be wrong. Anyway, we've probably spent enough time 
on this.

Dick
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Re: Can't Enable/Disable Java using Preferences

[Dick Hoffman]

NoOp wrote:

On 07/20/2011 11:23 AM, Dick Hoffman wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

I tracked it back to this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506985
[Bug 506985 - remove java-specific preferences from Firefox UI, hidden
prefs ]

Looks like the option to disable/enable java was removed in Firefox 3.6
forward. And the Firefox solution:

Use the addons manager.




My wife points out this change has further security implications
depending on how it was implemented. Did the update that changed the
Enable/Disable of Java to the Add-ons Manager take into consideration
the user's current preference setting or did it take a default and, if
so, was the default Enable or Disable? If it took a default of Enable
there could be other chumps like me out there thinking they've got Java
disabled when they really don't.
Dick


I wouldn't argue about the security implications... but yes the default
is set to enable (I turn off/on using Prefbar). I reckon that is the
reason for the other bug reports; meaning they plan to remove the option
to turn off/on altogether in the Preferences UI on SeaMonkey. This is
one area that I think that SeaMonkey should stick to their guns and
leave the Preferences option to turn Java on/off in *and* ensure that it
works properly.

Slight added note: if you reference a bug report it is helpful to
include the url to the bug report rather than simply referring to it by
number. This way, folks not familar with bugzilla can easily click on
the link to review/comment. So your report is:

and the bug that your bug was duped to:

Which btw IMO isn't resolved/fixed as it apparently doesn't work in SM
2.1 or 2.2&  that indeed can be a security issue. You might want to add
your comments there.

OK, I added some verbage to 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512378 for whatever impact 
they'll have.
Thanks for your comment re including the URL of the bug for folks' ease 
of access.

Dick
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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[Rostyslaw Lewyckyj]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:


Mr. Gallagher's UA string indicates SM 2.0.14
So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete,
superceded version.
Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\
Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :)


Others with both earlier and later versions can see it.

And I'm not interested in becoming a beta tester. I can live without the
NG maps, but not without a workable browser/email program.


That does not change the 'politically correct' advice to be
given, in reply to your given in reply to your problem .
:-\
I am only poking at the party line. :-\
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Re: mail.ui.display.dateformat.today / Show date of todays mails

[Michael Gordon]

seam...@taz.de wrote:

Hi,
Users here sometimes have to print messages and like to have the full
date shown, even if messages are from today.
Is there a way to achieve this or an addon?
Setting mail.ui.display.dateformat.today and system settings like
described in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format didn't work here.
Regards,
Gerd


Look under "File/Print Set-up/Margins, headers, and footers"and select 
the options that best fit your printing requirements.


If you select the "Date" for headers or footers you have the options to 
place the date left justified, center, and right justified when you 
print a mail message, or a web page.


Michael G
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Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2

[Rob Steinmetz]

Richard Lee Holbert wrote:

Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 .
I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7.
I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot
of the times.
I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade.
How do I make sure this happens.
And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information
as simple as possible so I can digest it right now.
Thanks for any and all help.


If you have a lot of stuff to transfer it can take a long time.

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Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2

[Rob Steinmetz]

Richard Lee Holbert wrote:

Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 .
I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7.
I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot
of the times.
I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade.
How do I make sure this happens.
And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information
as simple as possible so I can digest it right now.
Thanks for any and all help.


If you have a lot of stuff to transfer it can take a long time.

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Re: Question: How to set SM for Mail, but FF for Browser?

[Ray_Net]

chokito wrote:

FF>  Preferences>  Advanced>  System settings...
I think that the problem in inside SM who still start the SM browser 
when double-clicking a link in an SM mail. You may change what you want 
in FF, if SM still want to start SM browser he will do it anyway.

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mail.ui.display.dateformat.today / Show date of todays mails

[seamon2]

Hi,
Users here sometimes have to print messages and like to have the full
date shown, even if messages are from today.
Is there a way to achieve this or an addon?
Setting mail.ui.display.dateformat.today and system settings like
described in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format didn't work here.
Regards,
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Automatic Upgrade 2.0.14 to 2.2?

[Larry]

Currently on 2.0.14 on XP SP3. Used to get automatic upgrades through 
the 2.0.x series. Did I miss these for 2.1 and then 2.2? Or is that 
still to come? (There are some concerns about the new series, but have a 
feeling that there is a runaway train and I've missed it.)


Larry
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Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 21/07/2011 11:09, MCBastos told the world:

> I should mention that back when Seamonkey 2 was originally offered, some
> people had minor problems with upgrading. I don't recall exactl

Got interrupted here... well, one issue I do remember is that if you
uninstall Seamonkey 1.1.x AFTER installing 2.0, it might take your
application icons and such with you. Reinstalling 2.0 usually solves the
problem.

Alternately, you might want to uninstall Seamonkey 1.1.18 BEFORE
installing 2.0. This WON'T damage your profile.

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Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 21/07/2011 10:29, Richard Lee Holbert told the world:
> Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 .
> I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7.
> I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot 
> of the times.
> I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade.
> How do I make sure this happens.

The best way PROBABLY is to FIRST upgrade to the latest update of 2.0
(that would be 2.0.14, I think). That will automatically *copy* your
profile to a new location (your old 1.1.18 profile will remain unaffected).

Note that you SHOULD NOT install Seamonkey 2.x in the same location you
have Seamonkey 1.1.18 currently. I think the default install locations
won't attempt to do it anyway, but you shouldn't force the issue.

You can then upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2 (or later) in the normal way.

why not do it in one step? Well, you could, but later versions of
Seamonkey are unable to import some minor stuff from the old profile --
I think the only thing lost is the download history. Since you said you
want to keep ALL the info, the two-step process is better.

Note that many (most?) of your add-ons will probably stop working, and
you will have to either upgrade to a later, SM-2.X compatible version,
or to find a suitable replacement.

I should mention that back when Seamonkey 2 was originally offered, some
people had minor problems with upgrading. I don't recall exactl

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Re: Question: How to set SM for Mail, but FF for Browser?

[WLS]

chokito wrote:

FF>  Preferences>  Advanced>  System settings...


Do I have to restart each application?

Just set FF as Default browser in Fx > Preferences > Advanced > System 
Defaults and links in SeaMonkey mail still open with the SeaMonkey browser.

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Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2

[Daniel]

Richard Lee Holbert wrote:

Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 .
I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7.
I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot
of the times.
I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade.
How do I make sure this happens.
And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information
as simple as possible so I can digest it right now.
Thanks for any and all help.


From one stroke sufferer to another (15 years ago) 

Richard, a while ago, I made the move from SM 1.1.17 (I think) to SM 
2.0. I installed 2.0 into a separate location and, as part of the 
installation process, it found the SM 1 profile and did some conversion 
to produce the SM 2 profile...Note the SM 1 profile was left alone.


Further upgrades through to SM 2.0.14 happened automatically and I'm 
waiting for the newly produced SM 2.2 to make the upgrade process 
automatic, as well.


I *think* if you installed SM 2.2 it would find the SM 1 profile and do 
the conversion, but it might be safer if you installed SM 2 just for the 
conversion.


Other more knowledgeable people will drop by with their opinions.

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1.1.18 to 2.2

[Richard Lee Holbert]

Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 .
I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7.
I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot 
of the times.

I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade.
How do I make sure this happens.
And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information
as simple as possible so I can digest it right now.
Thanks for any and all help.
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Re: Question: How to set SM for Mail, but FF for Browser?

[chokito]

FF > Preferences > Advanced > System settings...
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Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

[Daniel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

JeffM wrote:


Hmmm. I've already used this analogy once today (elsewhere).
Sometimes it only takes ONE individual to affect a change:



OK, so if I dedicate my life to making sure everyone knows that it's
"Effect change," not "Affect change," I can make a difference? Or is it
just that the world could(n't) care less? ;-)



I thought you could *effect* change to *affect* the result!!

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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the
page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection?


I doubt that's the problem. For one thing, another user in this thread
reported the same error, but he could view the map. For another, my FiOS
connection generally supports downloads of 25 MB or so per minute. I
routinely download 400-500 MB movie clips in 15-20 minutes without error.

Since I have this trouble but others with the same version of SM do not,
it seems unlikely to be a problem with the site and is more likely an
issue with my settings, corruption of some configuration or program
file, etc.

I do use AdBlock Plus, so I tried disabling it -- first for the site
alone, then globally -- and reloading the page, but it didn't help. ABP
reports blocking over a hundred items on this page, but unblocking them
didn't reveal the map.



Well the idea that VEMap is a variable in the file, on that site, and an
error like that will terminate script execution sounds like it *IS* that
issue.


OK, so how do you account for the visitors who /can/ view the map? Are 
their copies of SM 2.0.14 magically immune to the error?



A corrupt download of the .js file specified could do that too. Try the
shift+reload please.


Been there, done that. Several times. I've visited the site probably 20 
times since we've been discussing this -- what do you think are the 
chances that each and every time, this particular js file was corrupted 
in transit?


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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Error: VEMap is not defined
Source File:
http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js
Line: 89


Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the
page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection?


I doubt that's the problem. For one thing, another user in this thread
reported the same error, but he could view the map. For another, my FiOS
connection generally supports downloads of 25 MB or so per minute. I
routinely download 400-500 MB movie clips in 15-20 minutes without error.

Since I have this trouble but others with the same version of SM do not,
it seems unlikely to be a problem with the site and is more likely an
issue with my settings, corruption of some configuration or program
file, etc.

I do use AdBlock Plus, so I tried disabling it -- first for the site
alone, then globally -- and reloading the page, but it didn't help. ABP
reports blocking over a hundred items on this page, but unblocking them
didn't reveal the map.



Well the idea that VEMap is a variable in the file, on that site, and an 
error like that will terminate script execution sounds like it *IS* that 
issue.


A corrupt download of the .js file specified could do that too. Try the 
shift+reload please.


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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Error: VEMap is not defined
Source File:
http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js
Line: 89


Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the
page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection?


I doubt that's the problem. For one thing, another user in this thread 
reported the same error, but he could view the map. For another, my FiOS 
connection generally supports downloads of 25 MB or so per minute. I 
routinely download 400-500 MB movie clips in 15-20 minutes without error.


Since I have this trouble but others with the same version of SM do not, 
it seems unlikely to be a problem with the site and is more likely an 
issue with my settings, corruption of some configuration or program 
file, etc.


I do use AdBlock Plus, so I tried disabling it -- first for the site 
alone, then globally -- and reloading the page, but it didn't help. ABP 
reports blocking over a hundred items on this page, but unblocking them 
didn't reveal the map.


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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

GerardJan wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:






The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine.

Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing
label,
in case that's any help.

TIA



This requires:
JavaScript: Enabled
Images: Load all images

You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image
preference, go to [Edit> Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On
the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select
[Privacy&
Security> Images].


Sorry:

Specify how SeaMonkey handles images:
Accept all images

Animated images should loop:
As many times as the image specifies

Manage image permissions:
(no sites listed)

Any other ideas?



No other ideas.

I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images
that come from the originating server. I could not get the map.

Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that
come from the originating server. I still could not get the map.

Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all
images. I still could not get the map.

Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I
get the map.

By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is
not a case of invald sniffing.


Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14
So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete,
superceded version.
Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\
Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :)


I use SM 2.0.14, the 64bits version what comes with Fedora15, and it
works like a champ with Javascript enabled and all images.


Well good for you. But mimicking the postings of some true party line
proponents here :-) , the politically correct answer is as written
above :-)
The :/ or :\ were supposed to produce wry faced smileys. Perhaps
:-\ or :-/ will do better. I am/was trying to be sarcastic.


FWIW, Instructing to "latest stable" is well and good, but I do avoid it 
when the issue is likely something else.


In this case people on 2.2, 2.1, and 2.0.14 experienced the site working 
fine, which implied the issue was something else. Figuring out what was 
different between OPs system and all us other users where it worked fine 
was what would help in that case, not a blind "update".


Also Unless the issue is ABSOLUTELY required, I won't instruct a user to 
upgrade to any beta/release-candidate/alpha/whatever. I'll happily 
accept and recommend people who care heavily about our direction/wish to 
test to go on those, and advocate that our beta's are relatively stable, 
but see no big need to suggest it.


*IF* there was a fix on a beta that is not on a stable release, I'll 
mention it, but along with a workaround if there is one.


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Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Error: VEMap is not defined
Source File:
http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js
Line: 89


Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the 
page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection?


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