Re: password manager keeps crashing
Chris, I have used the plugin check page and updated any plugins that I could and disabled the rest and it is still crashing. Sometimes immediately and other times it takes a few seconds. The most recent crashes are bp-15faaed4-7b9e-4e42-9d3b-ebc0a2110817 17/08/2011 09:40 bp-0f2e7ddb-ba5b-40bd-9a33-dc19d2110817 17/08/2011 09:31 Thanks James Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-16 3:29 PM, James Osbourn wrote: I have clicked the links not starting bp- The new links are bp-8a2cfa19-a5f4-41de-92e4-40e712110813 13/08/2011 21:28 bp-08fc5f47-fcce-4b4e-9342-0f1ab2110816 12/08/2011 22:36 bp-1dcff122-2d1e-41d4-ab12-ff3e92110816 12/08/2011 22:36 bp-968606ba-2fd1-4200-96c3-8992f2110816 24/07/2011 20:55 bp-564f453b-ca1a-4ad4-a13c-ceea02110816 24/07/2011 20:55 bp-ac83048c-4b33-4f9a-a7ac-de3a82110724 24/07/2011 19:55 bp-c3621fac-54d0-4355-8843-1f9892110724 24/07/2011 19:48 bp-29d154a2-a90b-4272-8029-74da02110724 24/07/2011 19:44 bp-ed41065e-dbd0-4c93-ae7a-4df052110722 22/07/2011 21:30 bp-27d32dc7-4e41-4d1e-b1f1-138a72110722 22/07/2011 21:28 There are different plugins mentioned in those. One talks about printing a PDF file, while another *may* refer to quicktime. If you have any plugins installed, go to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/, to make sure they are up to date, then go to Tools--Add-ons_Manager, select the Plugins panel, and disable any plugins you don't use. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sync
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: ... The default 'master' is a Server hosted by Mozilla, I assume it acts as intermediary and not as a storage point. No, it *does* store data, so you don't need, say your WinXP machine up and running when you sync to your win7 machine. That said, no-one but you can retrieve/deduce the data from your sync account. Do I take that to mean that incoming email goes to a Mozilla server THEN to whichever computer I grab?! I'm starting to worry! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Deleting History
I loaded 2.3 yesterday and so far only one strange occurrence. If I attempt to delete entries from the History screen, they don't disappear from the screen. However, once I close the History screen and then reopen it, those that I had deleted do not appear. This did not happen with 2.2, and I haven't made any changes since the update. Anyone else seeing this happen? Or any ways to correct it? Thanks very much. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SUGGESTION
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 00:46:51 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote: How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with the mouse? For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for viewing sites instead of bars. The Home button has been draggable since SeaMonkey 2.0 and I've had it in the navigation bar for ages. I have no idea what the Tinyurl button is but if it is an extension you should complain to the author and ask him to make his button movable. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sync
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:30:03 -0400, Rick Merrill wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: ... The default 'master' is a Server hosted by Mozilla, I assume it acts as intermediary and not as a storage point. No, it *does* store data, so you don't need, say your WinXP machine up and running when you sync to your win7 machine. That said, no-one but you can retrieve/deduce the data from your sync account. Do I take that to mean that incoming email goes to a Mozilla server THEN to whichever computer I grab?! I'm starting to worry! It stores your account settings but obviously not any of the actual mail messages. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 3 Release -- New Features and Fixes
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/16/2011 5:38 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Added support for the latest draft version of WebSockets with a prefixed API Added support for EventSource / server-sent events Added support for window.matchMedia Official Support for OS X Lion For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.3, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.3 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-16 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] I think I found a bug in my process, I accidentally sent this draft instead of editing it :( That's Ok Justin. Not to worry. After all 2.4 is close behind and you can schedule the bug to be fixed in a future release. :-) Heh, fwiw it was local process and all manual. So I just named mistake as bug :-) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
New Seamonkey, new bug
On restarting Seamonkey a few minutes ago, I was informed that it was installing my updates, then checking my plug-ins for compatibility, then asked if I wanted it to be my default client for e-mail, and finally launched. All looked promising, but rather displeased that it had migrated itself from 2.2 to 2.3 without my explicit permission, I immediately opened Edit/Preferences/Privacy Security to try to identify the box to uncheck in order to disable update without explicit permission. What I found instead was that the dialogue box was not fully visible (see screenshot) -- https://picasaweb.google.com/110725905659537251822/ScreenCaptures?authkey=Gv1sRgCPLV3Kvwm6zA5QE#5641846908634081906 whatever is intended to appear below Saved Password is cut off by the lower edge of the dialogue box. Surely dialogue boxes should check how big they will need to be before presenting themselves to a user ? Philip Taylor P.S. I have now located the appropriate preference, which turns out to be under Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Software Install... (another truncated field) but it does not offer me the behaviour I would prefer : download automatically, but install only after asking permission. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SUGGESTION
Jane--Galt sent me the following:: How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with the mouse? For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for viewing sites instead of bars. right click anywhere on the tool bar... select customize... drag away... this has been available for quite some time... sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sync
Philip Chee sent me the following:: On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:30:03 -0400, Rick Merrill wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: ... The default 'master' is a Server hosted by Mozilla, I assume it acts as intermediary and not as a storage point. No, it *does* store data, so you don't need, say your WinXP machine up and running when you sync to your win7 machine. That said, no-one but you can retrieve/deduce the data from your sync account. Do I take that to mean that incoming email goes to a Mozilla server THEN to whichever computer I grab?! I'm starting to worry! It stores your account settings but obviously not any of the actual mail messages. Phil i only let sync save my bookmarks... sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: html5 demo
Stéphane Grégoire a écrit : Thanks for your reply that explain why I have inabout:support : Accélération graphique On Windows XP (my stupid GPS don't know Linux) I have this : Description de la carte Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family ID du vendeur 8086 ID du périphérique 27ae RAM de la carte Unknown Pilotes de la carte igxprd32 Version du pilote 6.14.10.4906 Date du pilote 12-19-2007 Rendu WebGL Bloqué pour la version de votre pilote graphique. Essayer de faire la mise à jour vers la version 6.14.10.4926 ou supérieure de votre pilote. Fenêtres avec accélération graphique 0/2. Bloqué pour la version de votre pilote graphique. Essayer de faire la mise à jour vers la version 6.14.10.4926 ou supérieure de votre pilote. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ghost Plug-In
MCBastos wrote: Ah, Flash... for some reason, Macromedia/Adobe decided to place the entire Flash folder under restricted permissions. snip Be thankful you are on XP; there's a shortcut to reset permissions in XP that was removed on Vista (probably for security reasons). Well, it work on XP Pro; I never tested it on XP Home, it might not work there. Well, procedure... let's go: 1. Close ALL your browser windows. Yes, including Internet Explorer. 2. Uninstall all your Flash plugins and ActiveX. 3. Create a blank folder inside C:\Windows\System32. 4. Here's the trick: select BOTH the Macromed and New Folder created above at the same time (you have to do it in the file pane, not on the Tree pane) 5. Right-click on one of them, choose Properties and open the Security tab. XP will notice that the two folders have different permissions and offer to reset BOTH folders to default permissions. You can't do it that way as it's not enough. You need to use the Advanced button and remove the existing permissions. IIRC, no matter what you add that way, a deny bit is set on the Everyone user and it takes precedence over any allow you set. 1. Right-click the Macromedia folder and choose Properties. Then choose the Security tab, then the Advanced button. 2. In Permission entries, remove any entries shown. 3. Now click Add and type in Everyone and choose OK. 4. Choose Full control for their permissions and click OK. 5. Now back to the Permissions dialog put a check in Replace all child. and choose OK three times until you're back at the Explorer window. 6. Now you can delete the Macromedia folder and flick a booger in the direction of Adobe, who still does this crap with Flash after acquiring Macromedia years ago. This works in WinXP/Vista/7, though in Vista/7 you may need to press some buttons twice depending on UAC settings. Also, for Windows XP Home Edition, you can get the security tab without having to boot into Safe Mode by installing the NT4 Security Manager. There are no side effects. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/195227/EN-US SCESP4A.EXE - Alpha SCESP4I.EXE - Intel (the one you want) -- Mike ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: What I found instead was that the dialogue box was not fully visible (see screenshot) -- You can grab the bottom border of the Window and expand it. Though I agree the default view should be more intuitive. Either make it obvious in some way how to see more, or increase the default size by a bit. -- Mike ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Mike wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: What I found instead was that the dialogue box was not fully visible (see screenshot) -- You can grab the bottom border of the Window and expand it. Though I agree the default view should be more intuitive. Either make it obvious in some way how to see more, or increase the default size by a bit. Thank you, Mike. Yes, the window is resizeable, but I would argue that rather than increase the default size by a bit (which is bound to fail again at some point in the future), all dialogue boxes should self-size before presentation to the end user. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
On 11-08-17 4:42 AM, James Osbourn wrote: Chris, I have used the plugin check page and updated any plugins that I could and disabled the rest and it is still crashing. Sometimes immediately and other times it takes a few seconds. The most recent crashes are bp-15faaed4-7b9e-4e42-9d3b-ebc0a2110817 17/08/2011 09:40 bp-0f2e7ddb-ba5b-40bd-9a33-dc19d2110817 17/08/2011 09:31 Are you using the default theme? -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Surely dialogue boxes should check how big they will need to be before presenting themselves to a user ? You did try stretching the boxes? Just checking, so I don't make the wrong assumption. Yes, the boxes can be stretched. The point I was trying to make (and clearly failing) is that the software should check how big the box needs to be before presenting it; manual intervention should not be necessary. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Mike wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: What I found instead was that the dialogue box was not fully visible (see screenshot) -- You can grab the bottom border of the Window and expand it. Though I agree the default view should be more intuitive. Either make it obvious in some way how to see more, or increase the default size by a bit. Well good, if you have verified that the boxes will stretch. On some previous releases, some of the windows for editing options in SM could not be stretched. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Philipp van Hüllen schrieb: I have the feeling, there is more... space around some headings / border lines and some pop-up-select-bottoms seem bigger... ... will try now, what happens, when I revert back to SM2.2. Was already the same with SM2.2 (same profile). Since the re-size works (didn't know that) that's at least not critical. BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Mike wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: What I found instead was that the dialogue box was not fully visible (see screenshot) -- You can grab the bottom border of the Window and expand it. Though I agree the default view should be more intuitive. Either make it obvious in some way how to see more, or increase the default size by a bit. Thank you, Mike. Yes, the window is resizeable, but I would argue that rather than increase the default size by a bit (which is bound to fail again at some point in the future), all dialogue boxes should self-size before presentation to the end user. Philip Taylor Hey, hey. At least they're resizeable now. That's progress. You want bells and whitles, when other bugs/misfeatures are begging attention? :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
I have the default theme 2.2, the modern theme 2.2 is disabled James Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-17 4:42 AM, James Osbourn wrote: Chris, I have used the plugin check page and updated any plugins that I could and disabled the rest and it is still crashing. Sometimes immediately and other times it takes a few seconds. The most recent crashes are bp-15faaed4-7b9e-4e42-9d3b-ebc0a2110817 17/08/2011 09:40 bp-0f2e7ddb-ba5b-40bd-9a33-dc19d2110817 17/08/2011 09:31 Are you using the default theme? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
JD wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Mike wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: What I found instead was that the dialogue box was not fully visible (see screenshot) -- You can grab the bottom border of the Window and expand it. Though I agree the default view should be more intuitive. Either make it obvious in some way how to see more, or increase the default size by a bit. Thank you, Mike. Yes, the window is resizeable, but I would argue that rather than increase the default size by a bit (which is bound to fail again at some point in the future), all dialogue boxes should self-size before presentation to the end user. Philip Taylor I re-sized mine to be the size of yours (not fully visible) and clicked on OK. Went right back to the setting and the window was the correct size. Not sure why yours doesn't work that way. When you clicked OK, some bits somewhere in SM got set. Then when you went again to the setting, SM took a different code path . (But who said his wouldn't work that way as well, if he done did that?) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: new 2.3
Interviewed by CNN on 01/08/2011 15:31, Pat Connors told the world: Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using Windows 7 which seems to complicate all new program updates. Just wondering how others using Win 7 have managed with the new update. I'm using Win7 x64 and had *no* problems with the update -- just let it update automatically and it did it all by itself. In fact, let me point out that the Data Manager now works correctly, so in my book at least, the new version is a clear improvement. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my scrying pool. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Microsoft DRM
I really cannot stand using Microsoft's Windows Media Player. However, Windows XP does not allow me to remove it. So I disabled it for SeaMonkey, using the Add-ons Manager. Contained within Windows Media Player at C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\ are two DLL files: npwmsdrm.dll and npdrmv2.dll. These both involve Microsoft's Digital Rights Management (DRM) capabilities. Add-ons Manager shows these as enabled despite the fact that Windows Media Player is disabled. When I disable Windows Media Player, should not all parts of it also become disabled? Are the two DRM DLLs used at all when I listen to streaming music through SeaMonkey via RealPlayer or Winamp? Or are they strictly for Windows Media Player? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Interviewed by CNN on 17/08/2011 15:23, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) told the world: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Surely dialogue boxes should check how big they will need to be before presenting themselves to a user ? You did try stretching the boxes? Just checking, so I don't make the wrong assumption. Yes, the boxes can be stretched. The point I was trying to make (and clearly failing) is that the software should check how big the box needs to be before presenting it; manual intervention should not be necessary. ...or at least it should include a scroll bar. Which might be handy for large dialogs in low vertical resolution screens (like on some netbooks), by the way. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my superior attunement to the Force. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Probably off-topic : Microsoft DRM
Why not upgrade to Windows XP Professional N ? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886540 I really cannot stand using Microsoft's Windows Media Player. However, Windows XP does not allow me to remove it. So I disabled it for SeaMonkey, using the Add-ons Manager. Contained within Windows Media Player at C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\ are two DLL files: npwmsdrm.dll and npdrmv2.dll. These both involve Microsoft's Digital Rights Management (DRM) capabilities. Add-ons Manager shows these as enabled despite the fact that Windows Media Player is disabled. When I disable Windows Media Player, should not all parts of it also become disabled? Are the two DRM DLLs used at all when I listen to streaming music through SeaMonkey via RealPlayer or Winamp? Or are they strictly for Windows Media Player? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Actually on-topic : Microsoft DRM
On 8/17/11 2:18 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Why not upgrade to Windows XP Professional N ? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886540 I really cannot stand using Microsoft's Windows Media Player. However, Windows XP does not allow me to remove it. So I disabled it for SeaMonkey, using the Add-ons Manager. Contained within Windows Media Player at C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\ are two DLL files: npwmsdrm.dll and npdrmv2.dll. These both involve Microsoft's Digital Rights Management (DRM) capabilities. Add-ons Manager shows these as enabled despite the fact that Windows Media Player is disabled. When I disable Windows Media Player, should not all parts of it also become disabled? Are the two DRM DLLs used at all when I listen to streaming music through SeaMonkey via RealPlayer or Winamp? Or are they strictly for Windows Media Player? My question is on-topic because it relates to the operation of Add-ons Manager and the disabling of a SeaMonkey plug-in. Or were you referring to your own reply as off-topic? By the way, I have Windows XP Home Edition Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647: Service Pack 3), which is still being maintained by Micro$oft and is thus current. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Actually on-topic : Microsoft DRM
David E. Ross wrote: My question is on-topic because it relates to the operation of Add-ons Manager and the disabling of a SeaMonkey plug-in. Or were you referring to your own reply as off-topic? Of course : I wouldn't dream of categorising someone else's message as being off-topic. By the way, I have Windows XP Home Edition Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647: Service Pack 3), which is still being maintained by Micro$oft and is thus current. OK, so how about upgrading to Windows XP Home Edition N, which also has Media Player removed ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A plea for a return to sanity in new version release scheduling
My bloviated meandering follows what John graced us with on 8/17/2011 2:26 PM: I use SeaMonkey most of the time and Firefox occasionally. I try never to use IE. The web browser and email client are critically important to me, and I think the majority of users would agree. Since Firefox and SeaMonkey embarked on their accelerated release schedule, we've seen several updates incorporating many significant behavioral changes which are causing grief to many users. Along with this we are being encouraged to upgrade promptly because that's the only way to get the latest security patches. Why the big hurry all of a sudden? Changes in program behavior should be fully documented in advance of an upgrade. Users who prefer the behavior of the old version should be given the option to retain it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! The end user should not be forced to be the guinea pig whose feedback becomes the quality control for these programs. Please return to the former more careful release strategy. I worked as an electrical engineer for Motorola for many years. All too often, we had products being sold before they were designed and unrelenting pressure to push them out the door. There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over was the cynical opinion of many of my colleagues. It seems like the software industry is the same way. A quick search of this newsgroup would have shown you that this topic has been brought up several times and deemed OFF-TOPIC for this newsgroup. mozilla.feedback is the best venue for this concern if you prefer to have it directed to the Mozilla Team, mozilla.general (which I've set a follow-up to) is best if you wish to discuss it in more depth with other Mozilla users. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: new 2.3
Pat Connors a écrit : Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using Windows 7 which seems to complicate all new program updates. Just wondering how others using Win 7 have managed with the new update. Well, FTR, I had no problem whatsoever going from 2.0.14 to 2.2 on both WinXP and Win7. Everything went like a charm, all my add-ons but one were compatible (and the one left isn't critical, just convenient) and most important, this new version solved a bug that was very annoying to me (the password boxes that weren't sequential anymore in Mail). So all in all, I'm a very happy camper. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A plea for a return to sanity in new version release scheduling
On 8/17/2011 4:26 PM, John wrote: Since Firefox and SeaMonkey embarked on their accelerated release schedule, we've seen several updates incorporating many significant behavioral changes which are causing grief to many users. Along with this we are being encouraged to upgrade promptly because that's the only way to get the latest security patches. Why the big hurry all of a sudden? I don't plan on upgrading until they reach 99.0 so the faster they get there the happier I'll be. :-) Bruce. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Question about about.config entries.
Background: I once owned a HP Deskjet 5550 printer. This printer has long since been removed from my system (taken in for recycle). I now have a HP Officejet Pro 8500A Plus printer connected to my system. About me: I want you to understand that I have never made a change of any type in about:config (I don't know enough about this area of my computer to feel safe in making any changes). Today, however, was my first visit to about:config. I was reading messages in this news group and an about:config reference was made in one of the messages...that is why I decided to pay a visit to this thing called about:config. While there, I observed 39 individual lines starting with the following: print.printer_hp_deskjet_5550_series.print_...etc Now my question: Should I remove these entries? If so, how do I make this happen? Windows XP Pro SP3//SeaMonkey 2.3 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about about.config entries.
Frog wrote: Background: I once owned a HP Deskjet 5550 printer. This printer has long since been removed from my system (taken in for recycle). I now have a HP Officejet Pro 8500A Plus printer connected to my system. About me: I want you to understand that I have never made a change of any type in about:config (I don't know enough about this area of my computer to feel safe in making any changes). Today, however, was my first visit to about:config. I was reading messages in this news group and an about:config reference was made in one of the messages...that is why I decided to pay a visit to this thing called about:config. While there, I observed 39 individual lines starting with the following: print.printer_hp_deskjet_5550_series.print_...etc Now my question: Should I remove these entries? If so, how do I make this happen? Windows XP Pro SP3//SeaMonkey 2.3 My suggestion is if the entry in about:config to the HP DEskjet 5550 is not causing a known problem (i.e. interfering with printing to the HP Officejet or another error) then I would not worry about removing the entries. My thinking is that unless there is a problem with the entries, ignore them. There is no need to remove them unless you know of a problem the entry is causing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Microsoft DRM
David E. Ross wrote: I really cannot stand using Microsoft's Windows Media Player. However, Windows XP does not allow me to remove it. So I disabled it for SeaMonkey, using the Add-ons Manager. Contained within Windows Media Player atC:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\ are two DLL files: npwmsdrm.dll and npdrmv2.dll. These both involve Microsoft's Digital Rights Management (DRM) capabilities. Add-ons Manager shows these as enabled despite the fact that Windows Media Player is disabled. When I disable Windows Media Player, should not all parts of it also become disabled? Are the two DRM DLLs used at all when I listen to streaming music through SeaMonkey via RealPlayer or Winamp? Or are they strictly for Windows Media Player? about:addons Correct? Click on Disable or Remove. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Seamonkey, new bug
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: JD wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Mike wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: What I found instead was that the dialogue box was not fully visible (see screenshot) -- You can grab the bottom border of the Window and expand it. Though I agree the default view should be more intuitive. Either make it obvious in some way how to see more, or increase the default size by a bit. Thank you, Mike. Yes, the window is resizeable, but I would argue that rather than increase the default size by a bit (which is bound to fail again at some point in the future), all dialogue boxes should self-size before presentation to the end user. Philip Taylor I re-sized mine to be the size of yours (not fully visible) and clicked on OK. Went right back to the setting and the window was the correct size. Not sure why yours doesn't work that way. When you clicked OK, some bits somewhere in SM got set. Then when you went again to the setting, SM took a different code path . (But who said his wouldn't work that way as well, if he done did that?) What? Bits? Mine opened fully visible. I re-sized to not fully visible. Next time I opened mine it was fully visible. The original poster says it doesn't work that way when it was re-sized. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Screen showing add-ons
Ken wrote: Hi guys. Have SM 2.0.14 and Windows 7. Does a screen listing add-ons, etc., really have to open every time I turn on SM? Thanks - Ken (in Oz) Edit, Preferences, Browser. Display on Browser Startup. What are your settings there? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A plea for a return to sanity in new version release scheduling
On 8/17/11 3:26 PM, John wrote: There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over That doesn't just apply to electronics and software, I suspect it's prevalent everywhere. I used to work as a aircraft mechanic, and worked at a shop where we repaired wrecks. I had to reassemble an aircraft after repairs due to a landing gear failure. The airplane had only 2.45 hours of flight time from the last belly landing. Even though the insurance company was willing to cover our higher priced bid for repairs, the owners decided that time was more important than quality. Needless to say, there was no pressure from the owners for getting the second repair out the door ASAP! :D -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 5.0 Thunderbird 5.0 LibreOffice 3.3.3 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: new 2.3
MCBastos wrote: I'm using Win7 x64 and had *no* problems with the update This was my experience. I did notice a couple oddities like the right-click menu going full screen height. But the speed improvement in the email windows alone was worth it for me. Some of the louder people on the list here have pretty specific needs that the vast majority won't be affected by. I think the most of the problem reside around addon issues with the version number increases. If one has a ton of addons that they depend on heavily, they may want to make a copy of their profile before they do the upgrade to be safe. -- Mike ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SUGGESTION
Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com wrote : On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 00:46:51 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote: How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with the mouse? For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for viewing sites instead of bars. The Home button has been draggable since SeaMonkey 2.0 and I've had it in the navigation bar for ages. I have no idea what the Tinyurl button is but if it is an extension you should complain to the author and ask him to make his button movable. Phil Cant drag it up to the bar with the Back, Forward and Reload buttons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SUGGESTION
sean nathan bean sean.b...@wizard.invalid.net wrote : Jane--Galt sent me the following:: How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with the mouse? For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for viewing sites instead of bars. right click anywhere on the tool bar... select customize... drag away... this has been available for quite some time... sean Ahh, thanks! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
On 11-08-17 2:37 PM, James Osbourn wrote: I have the default theme 2.2, the modern theme 2.2 is disabled James Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-17 4:42 AM, James Osbourn wrote: Chris, I have used the plugin check page and updated any plugins that I could and disabled the rest and it is still crashing. Sometimes immediately and other times it takes a few seconds. The most recent crashes are bp-15faaed4-7b9e-4e42-9d3b-ebc0a2110817 17/08/2011 09:40 bp-0f2e7ddb-ba5b-40bd-9a33-dc19d2110817 17/08/2011 09:31 Are you using the default theme? Are you on a VPN when the crashes occur? -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sync
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:27:04 -0400, Rick Merrill wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:30:03 -0400, Rick Merrill wrote: Do I take that to mean that incoming email goes to a Mozilla server THEN to whichever computer I grab?! I'm starting to worry! It stores your account settings but obviously not any of the actual mail messages. Thanks Phil, but aside from the practicality of saving 10MB attachments :-) is it really obvious that storing data does not include said email and attachments? Err not really. Sorry about that. Could this be expressed/explained as saving settings headers? We don't save headers either. Account settings means stuff in Edit- Mail Newsgroup account settings. If my pop-settings do not leave email on server, how would a second computer see email already retrieved on another computer? You won't. If you want this use IMAP instead. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
