Re: my bad, my bad

2012-03-19 Thread gertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com

Walter schreef:

Walter wrote:

Walter wrote:

Walter wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 3/15/2012 12:11 PM Walter submitted the following:

Equipment: HP desktop, Win 7, 6 gb memory, 750 gb hard drive, SM
2.7.2

Several months ago I found and used a program/plugin to print my
password file
with passwords in the clear. Since then I have added more passwords
and changed
some. OK, I will run that program again, says I. Not so easy, what
was name of
it and where did I get it? Never fear, Google knows. Thing is, Google
knows too
much so I don't know which program/plugin I used. One of the Google
finds was
LastPass, the so-touted answer to all my questions and needs. OK,
load and run.
Somewhere in the options there must be a way to do what I need but I
can't find
it. I try this-n-that and end up with a big mess with SM mail and
newsgroups
asking for a password every time I try to access either one. I check
the
settings for e-mail and newsgroups and do not find any obvious
problems. Use
workaround by entering passwords to get to mail and newsgroups. Even
now, I get
a request about every 10 minutes asking for a password for news
server access.
No matter what I enter, (or nothing,) it is accepted and things go
on.

Two e-mail accounts, xxx@localtvserver and xxx@gmail

Two newsgroup accts, m.s.seamonkey and news.eternal-september.org

I know the above is rather long and possibly very confusing but I
need help and
advice, thanking all in advance.

Walter.




Go to:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm





Save the page. Open the saved page in your browser.

It works with SM 2.8




That is it! Now my problem is that there are only 4 domains
there with their passwords. What did I do to lose the rest of them?

David,

I will try your suggestion later. The grocery store calls.

w




OK, now I have lost those four. I am hopelessly lost in a sea of 0s and
1s. Would it do any good to do a system restore from a couple of weeks
back while doing a Ccleaner?

w



To continue this saga: I reloaded and installed FastPass and this time I
carefully read the instruction book to try to understand where I went
wrong the first time. I did import the file with passwords, etc. and
found that most of the data that I need is there, along with duplicates
which I deleted. As I understood the instructions, now I can upload this
file via Firefox and all will be well. I went in circles a few rounds
and never found the place to click to actually import the data via
FIrefox to the SM file. Another option was to print the file but again I
never found the place to click to do that.

Any FastPass users in this group who could hold my hand in this problem,
suggesting where I went wrong again?

w



OK, no responses so I will consider this topic closed to responses. In
the meantime I will continue to do research and some day might come
across a way to get my passwords back.

Thanks to the ones who did respond.

w


see you later alligator, in a while crocodile

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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Daniel

Jean Zebloski wrote:

Danield...@albury.nospam.net.au   wrote :


Jean Zebloski wrote:

Rufusn...@home.comwrote :


Jean Zebloski wrote:

Since installing SM 2.8 I'm getting some problems. When I click a link
in another program now, instead of popping up the SM window, it
doesn't. SM goes to the link but I have to click the SM task bar icon
to go to see it.

Things also seem slower now too.

Is 2.8 screwed up?



That problem was there from SM 2.7 Mac also - bug #724293.

If you use Spaces on a Mac you'll likely also notice that 2.8 doesn't
shift to the SM Space or return to Open from Minimize either - bug
#735946.

I hadn't noticed it being slower, but I have gone back to 2.7.2 because
of the above.



How do I go back and still keep everything like my bookmarks and

settings?




Jean, from the header of your message, I cannot tell what operating
system you are using, but I'm guessing Windows, so these should work.


Yeah, Win 7, sorry for not saying.


First things first.back-up your profile! In SeaMonkey, have a look
at Edit-Mail  Newsgroup Settings and select Server Settings for your
e-mail accounts. At the bottom of this screen is your Local directory
location. This is where your profile is stored. Make a copy of the
profile or use a program called MozBackup to make a copy.

NextDownload a copy of SM 2.7.2 from www.seamonkey-project.org.


I just went this far and ran the install and it appears to have worked
fine, thanks!

Came right up after the install with all my saved toolbar tabs, latest
bookmarks and everyhing. THANK YOU Dan!


ThreeInstall SM 2.7.2 over the top of your current SM 2.8. To find
where your SM 2.8 is installed, right click on your desktop icon and
note the location listed under properties.

Fourto connect to your profile, in SeaMonkey, select Tools-Switch
Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile, give it a name and, on the
same screen, Choose Folder and point it to the folder (has a name
something like efbj6hdb.default) that contains your old profile.

Report back.





Glad it worked for you.

Remember to turn off auto-update so you don't have to keep going through 
this!


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Re: Mozilla disk hog/locks are killing my productivity

2012-03-19 Thread nikolam
Doors wrote:
 I think I observed similar hogs/locks with disk access also in latest
 Firefox on same Linux x86_64 Amd64 Xubuntu 10.04.4 LTS machine.
 
 I recently made the jump from 2.0.14 to 2.7, what a mess.
 
 I had very few of these stalls.
 
 Now I am having them regularly, though not constantly.

It is not only a question of convenience.
It is a question of general usability and a program being fit for a purpose.
If Seamonkey just hangs messing up with disk access, killing my
ability to use functions of a program, for ,say, more then 4 seconds,
then it is not a program for me (Ad I am using Netscape and Mozilla and
Seamonkey from .. forever)
Some bug introduced somewhere in 3 releases ago that started behaving
differently and not paying attention to interactivity and user benefit.

Like I am on telephone call, watching e-mail, then someone calls and I
need to see a web page and in the middle of scrolling down, Seamonkey
freezes roaring the disk for 30 seconds. Then it stops for few seconds
and then again start molesting the disk.
What should I do during that time?

To start alternative browser and I am already doing it for a month...
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Stuck activity spinner, Seamonkey 2.8

2012-03-19 Thread Gordon Weast

On Windows 7.

I just downloaded Seamonkey 2.8 and I'm seeing the Windows 7 activity 
spinner all the time when the mouse cursor is over either the folder 
list, or the email list in a given folder.  If I move the mouse over the 
message content window, the activity spinner goes away.


When I closed and restarted Seamonkey, the spinner went away for a few 
clicks, then came back on continuously.  Other than a restart, I haven't 
found a way to get it to turn off again.  In Task Manager, the execution 
time isn't incrementing so I'm pretty sure Seamonkey isn't actively 
doing anything.


Looks like there's an unmatched activity on/off setting somewhere.

Mildly annoying, feels a bit like dripping water torture.

Gordon Weast
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Re: Stuck activity spinner, Seamonkey 2.8

2012-03-19 Thread JAS

  
  
Gordon Weast wrote:
On Windows 7.
  
  
  I just downloaded Seamonkey 2.8 and I'm seeing the Windows 7
  activity spinner all the time when the mouse cursor is over either
  the folder list, or the email list in a given folder. If I move
  the mouse over the message content window, the activity spinner
  goes away.
  
  
  When I closed and restarted Seamonkey, the spinner went away for a
  few clicks, then came back on continuously. Other than a restart,
  I haven't found a way to get it to turn off again. In Task
  Manager, the execution time isn't incrementing so I'm pretty sure
  Seamonkey isn't actively doing anything.
  
  
  Looks like there's an unmatched activity on/off setting somewhere.
  
  
  Mildly annoying, feels a bit like dripping water torture.
  
  
  Gordon Weast
  

Go to about:config and change 
ui.use_activity_cursor from true to false

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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Jean Zebloski
Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au  wrote :


 
 Glad it worked for you.
 
 Remember to turn off auto-update so you don't have to keep going through 
 this!
 

Thanks again.

Now for some reason it still isn't working right in Google searches. It used 
to automatically search Google instantly as I typed in the search box. Now I 
must type everything and hit search. It stopped doing the instant part when I 
upgraded to 2.8 and hasnt started doing it again now that I reverted.

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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Jean Zebloski wrote:


Now for some reason it still isn't working right in Google searches. It used
to automatically search Google instantly as I typed in the search box. Now I
must type everything and hit search. It stopped doing the instant part when I
upgraded to 2.8 and hasnt started doing it again now that I reverted.


Wonderful.  Please tell me how you accomplished this, if you
ever discover.  The new fad for searches that start while
one is still typing is, as far as I am concerned, yet another
example of fashion for fashion's sake.  It accomplishes
nothing other than wasting resources (my computer's and
the network's) by searching for things in which I am not
the least interested and in transferring single character
packets rather than waiting for a complete buffer full.

Philip Taylor
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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Jean Zebloski wrote:

 Now for some reason it still isn't working right in Google searches. It
 used to automatically search Google instantly as I typed in the search
 box. Now I must type everything and hit search. It stopped doing the
 instant part when I upgraded to 2.8 and hasnt started doing it again
 now that I reverted.

Do you have JavaScript disabled, or NoScript installed?  That annoying 
search-as-you-type is accomplished by JavaScript.

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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Jean Zebloski
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk  wrote :

 
 
 Jean Zebloski wrote:
 
 Now for some reason it still isn't working right in Google searches. It
 used to automatically search Google instantly as I typed in the search
 box. Now I must type everything and hit search. It stopped doing the
 instant part when I upgraded to 2.8 and hasnt started doing it again
 now that I reverted. 
 
 Wonderful.  Please tell me how you accomplished this, if you
 ever discover.  The new fad for searches that start while
 one is still typing is, as far as I am concerned, yet another
 example of fashion for fashion's sake.  It accomplishes
 nothing other than wasting resources (my computer's and
 the network's) by searching for things in which I am not
 the least interested and in transferring single character
 packets rather than waiting for a complete buffer full.
 
 Philip Taylor
 

I liked it in some respects, wasn't really interested in turning it off, but 
it turned off when I installed SM 2.8 and now won't come back, after 
reverting to 2.7.

They should at least allow a setting for those who want it or don't. :) 

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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread GerardJan

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jean Zebloski wrote:


Now for some reason it still isn't working right in Google searches. It
used to automatically search Google instantly as I typed in the search
box. Now I must type everything and hit search. It stopped doing the
instant part when I upgraded to 2.8 and hasnt started doing it again
now that I reverted.


Do you have JavaScript disabled, or NoScript installed?  That annoying
search-as-you-type is accomplished by JavaScript.



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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Jean Zebloski
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid  wrote :

 Jean Zebloski wrote:
 
 Now for some reason it still isn't working right in Google searches. It
 used to automatically search Google instantly as I typed in the search
 box. Now I must type everything and hit search. It stopped doing the
 instant part when I upgraded to 2.8 and hasnt started doing it again
 now that I reverted.
 
 Do you have JavaScript disabled, or NoScript installed?  That annoying 
 search-as-you-type is accomplished by JavaScript.
 

Javascript is still all enabled for the browser.

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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Jean Zebloski
Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk  wrote :

 
 
 Jean Zebloski wrote:
 
 Now for some reason it still isn't working right in Google searches. It
 used to automatically search Google instantly as I typed in the search
 box. Now I must type everything and hit search. It stopped doing the
 instant part when I upgraded to 2.8 and hasnt started doing it again
 now that I reverted. 
 
 Wonderful.  Please tell me how you accomplished this, if you
 ever discover.  The new fad for searches that start while
 one is still typing is, as far as I am concerned, yet another
 example of fashion for fashion's sake.  It accomplishes
 nothing other than wasting resources (my computer's and
 the network's) by searching for things in which I am not
 the least interested and in transferring single character
 packets rather than waiting for a complete buffer full.
 
 Philip Taylor
 

Oh, I just found it. It's in the SM Edit pulldown menu - Find text as you 
type.

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Ctrl-OnMouseUp Drag Copy Message does not work anymore

2012-03-19 Thread John Taylor-Johnston

Seamonkey Mail:

I like organising myself in my mail window. I can no longer press ctrl 
and drag a message and copy it into another folder.


The + does not appear. And the message gets moved, not copied.

The only way to copy a message now is by right-clicking and copying it. 
That is long and clunky.


I don't like this change.

Who fixed this one? :)

John
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Re: another 2.7 disaster

2012-03-19 Thread Kenneth Hamilton


WLS wls15202@... writes:

 
 On 02/02/2012 03:26 PM, ConnorsGenealogy wrote:
  Well, when I turned on my computer today (windows 7), SM wouldn't start.  
I got 
  on IE and found that 2.7 was sent.
 
 Can you explain what found that 2.7 was sent means.
 
  I thought maybe something happened in the 
  download, so got on SM and manually downloaded 2.7.  
 
 So SM started, after saying it wouldn't, and you opened
 seamonkey-project.org, then downloaded SM 2.7?
 
  I went through the setup 
  but then it couldn't start because 'another version of SM was running'.  
  However, I certainly couldn't find it running, nor could I run it.
 
 Went through the setup after shutting down SM, using File - Quit, or
 clicking on the x in the title bar.
 
  Anyone have the same problem, or is it just my computer?
 
 Need clarification before that can be answered.
 


I installed SM2.7 and it was going fine.
I installed firefox 10 and then sm2.7 wouldn't run.
well, actually, it would start, display tyhe profile window and then go into 
never-never land.
with ctrl-alt-del, i could start task mgr and then find seamonky 32 provess 
running or several, if i tried more than once to start.
i reinstalled sm2.7 and then it astarted.
ok all is going well.
so of course i improve.
i installed the swedish language pack and now back to same start and disappear.
so i have now uninstalled foxfire.
i have uninstalled seamonkey and reinstalled.
same
then i uninstalled sm2.7, restarted and reinstalled.
i tried the routine install without option select and same.

I've tried to reinstall earlier version, 2.4.1 and 2.3.3 and each gets to the 
window saying checking add-ons for compatibility and then goes into never-
never land and just sits until i click several times and get a window about 
not responding and then it quits.

on checking, i find inspec...@mozilla.org.xpi is now in the extension folder.

install, try, uninstall, 
install, hang on inspection, break

reboot
good way to spend a long evening



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SeaMonkey rebooting Issue

2012-03-19 Thread Yazan Akkam
Hi, I have a question about SeaMonkey, I just downloaded SeaMonkey 2.8 
from your official website, and I answered all the questions and things 
after you download something, But when I finished and tried to open up 
SeaMonkey it told me I have to reboot so SeaMonkey can upgrade, so I 
rebooted the computer. When I was finished I opened it up again and it 
gave the same message, so I need to find a solution to this problem. I 
think its probably a bug. Thanks for everything, I hope you can find a 
solution to the problem,


Yazan Akkam

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Re: Security Vulnerability

2012-03-19 Thread Mozilla Security
This sounds more like a SeaMonkey support issue than a general security
issue. Adding support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
mailto:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org. to addresss this issue.

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On 2012-02-16 14:23 PM, L Davis wrote:
 Hi,
 Even though I have updated to the latest version of SeaMonkey, when I
 Open in a New Tab, the older
 version of SeaMonkey comes up, advising me to upgrade. The original
 page reflects the updated version.

 Thank you for your help.

 Laura




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Re: google home page freezes

2012-03-19 Thread Tom Eicher

Hello Everybody, just to let you know:

I created a new profile, and now the freezes on Javascript-heavy
sites are gone, also Seamonkey feels a bit faster overall now.

So, despite everything working fine, it's probably still recommended to
create a new profile after a handful of upgrades.

Creating a new profile is not as painful as it used to be, thanks to
to the sync, but of course it's an ugly experience, especially with
the many mail settings...

Cheers, Tom.


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Re: SVG implemetation still incomplete

2012-03-19 Thread Tara Li

P.N. wrote:


please look at this SVG:
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/images/filters/feComposite.svg



According to specs it should look like this:
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/images/filters/feComposite.png


Chrome doesn't get it right, either, on Ubuntu 10.10.

Inkscape 0.48 doesn't either.  Some of the triangles appear to be out of 
position, though.


Gimp 2.6.10 seems to get it dead on right, though.
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Re: google home page freezes

2012-03-19 Thread Tom Eicher

Hi Daniel, thanks for your reply.

 Tom, I am unable to assist you, but maybe others might be able to assist 
 if you could supply the Error Console data.

Well, google certainly does produce many warnings (mostly -webkit-*
stuff ignored...), but not a single errors.

Right now, Seamonkey froze a full 25 seconds when loading G+ start page.
Some content was already there, the rest was loaded and displayed within
2 seconds after the freeze.

During the freeze, the message bar said Connecting to ssl.gstatic.com.

Cheers, Tom.


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Username / Password Q

2012-03-19 Thread robertbaer

 How do i get the username / password capture to work for https sites?


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problem with new laptop...

2012-03-19 Thread Nick Goodrich

Hello all;

I have a new HP ProBook 4530s, loaded.  I installed Seamonkey, added my 
email info, and all seemed to work fine.


I have noticed that when i try to send an email with more than 150 
characters of text, or most any attachment, i get a SMTP time out error.


I removed Seamonkey, installed Thunderbird and got the same error.

I removed ALL files and folders associated with Mozilla et al and 
reinstalled Seamonkey.


i am still getting the SMTP error.  Often it will send the email even 
tho it says there was an error...


Does anyone have a solution that i can try???

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Re: SeaMonkey rebooting Issue

2012-03-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Yazan Akkam wrote:


Hi, I have a question about SeaMonkey, I just downloaded SeaMonkey
2.8 from your official website, and I answered all the questions and
things after you download something, But when I finished and tried to
open up SeaMonkey it told me I have to reboot so SeaMonkey can
upgrade, so I rebooted the computer. When I was finished I opened it
up again and it gave the same message, so I need to find a solution
to this problem. I think its probably a bug. Thanks for everything, I
hope you can find a solution to the problem,


You're misreading the message. It doesn't say restart the /computer/, it 
says restart /SeaMonkey/. There's even a button to click, which tells SM 
to restart, whereupon the installation is carried out.


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Ping Justin Wood

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Gordon

Justin,

First I commend you on your work with SeaMonkey, it cannot be an easy 
ride herding a group of self centered programmers.  You have done very 
well keeping the All-In-One-Suite alive.


Second.  I have to condemn the core developers and programmers for their 
attempt to destroy SeaMonkey and the promise of a superior internet 
suite.  Two weeks ago I installed the SM 2.8 upgrade and all my old 
tools, extensions, and themes were broken.  To add insult to injury the 
installation removed all traces of my former ad-ons.


I have regressed back to SM 2.3 and all my tools, extensions, and one 
theme are now restored.


I an sending this message as a courtesy because I have been a loyal user 
since Netscape Communicator 4.01, and you should know how some of us in 
the production world feel about these destructive changes.


I have turned off all functions of Auto Updates, adn do not expect to 
ever update again.


I fear you are riding a Dead Horse, and if you are not careful and 
watchful it will roll over and bury you.


Respectfully,

Michael Gordon


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Re: 2.8 problems

2012-03-19 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Jean Zebloski wrote:

 I liked it in some respects, wasn't really interested in turning it off,
 but it turned off when I installed SM 2.8 and now won't come back, after
 reverting to 2.7.
 
 They should at least allow a setting for those who want it or don't.

But that's not a function of the browser -- it is the web page that does 
it. And as I said in my other post, it's JavaScript included with the 
Google page.

Try using Google with all your add-ons and extensions disabled.

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weird problems with SM v2.8

2012-03-19 Thread cqbrodie

Hi!
I have a PC with Windows XP svc pak 3. And SM 2.8
We have 4 people under my single profile, each with its own emails and 
same browser.
The second person's web browser was NOT showing the topmost menus and 
the one specifically related to showing the URL menu
and at the bottom left no icon for emails and the two other mini icons 
usually seen.
I played around with the pulldown menus and did get the missing 2 back. 
However, I must have hit some button and the whole
screen in only showing the default website and all the topmost menus are 
missing, and the START and regular taskbar.

Any help to restore this whole to what should be there?
Thanks
Cliff

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How does the email portion of the Seamonkey Suite compare to Google's GMail? Especially in handling Spam?

2012-03-19 Thread Gary0315
How does the email portion of the Seamonkey Suite compare to Google's GMail?  
Especially in handling Spam?

Thanks.
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Re: weird problems with SM v2.8

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Gordon

cqbrodie wrote:

Hi!
I have a PC with Windows XP svc pak 3. And SM 2.8
We have 4 people under my single profile, each with its own emails and
same browser.
The second person's web browser was NOT showing the topmost menus and
the one specifically related to showing the URL menu
and at the bottom left no icon for emails and the two other mini icons
usually seen.
I played around with the pulldown menus and did get the missing 2 back.
However, I must have hit some button and the whole
screen in only showing the default website and all the topmost menus are
missing, and the START and regular taskbar.
Any help to restore this whole to what should be there?
Thanks
Cliff



When you set-up Windows XP for all your family members did you grant 
them separate user accounts?  If you did, you needed to install SM for 
all users, not your admin account.


Your Windows XP acount is not the same as your SM profile.

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Character is doing the right thing...
Even when no one is watching...

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