Re: Thanks, SM Team.

[David B.]

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Out of interest, what kind of Apple machine do you have?

David



I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?



Yes - I prefer Norton AV (and *not* the full Internet Security Suite).
I've been using it since OS 7 and never had an issue with using it. I
have it on all of my Macs. Most of the people (Mac and PC) that I meet
that have issues with NAV are running the full Suite - I always advise
people to just buy/run the anti-virus only.


OK - Interesting, Rufus!

I suppose my next question is, do you run MS Windows on your Macs?

My Apple store have assured me over the last few years that I didn't
*need* any AV programme! I'm in the UK using BT as my ISP. They have
provided McAfee Internet Security FOC as part of my package and, in
addition, BT scans every email before downloading it to my machine!



...and they hate it in Apple stores when I assure customers that they
*do* need AV software on their Macs. For two reasons, IMO. First -
because Macs *are* vulnerable, and increasingly so.

Second, someone using a PC may pass you a virus or some malware that
won't run on your Mac...but you still run the risk of passing it along
to another PC user - I conjecture that e-mail Attachments are the
biggest risk for this happening. So just out of common courtesy you
should have an AV program running on your Mac to prevent you from
becoming an inadvertent "carrier" of sorts.


Personally, I don't have Windows on my iMac!



Not as yet, but I do intend to put a Windows partition on the spinning
drive in my Mini and experiment with some PC based flight simulators in
the future - that's why the Mini is configured through my 55" flat panel
TV...Falcon Allied Force is life sized!

I suppose then I'll enter a new-old world of vulnerability...I have to
deal with PCs at work and can't stand them.




Are there any specific Mac Usenet groups you are aware of/use?


I monitor alt.macintosh, but it's pretty slow.


I had a quick look. Not terribly exciting, I agree!


I get most of my Mac news
and info from Macintouch -

http://www.macintouch.com/

Very informative site - I read it daily, throughout the day.


Thanks for that. I'd not seen it before. Bookmarked!

D.



Macintouch is a really good info source - been following it for years.



Thanks for all your interesting and helpful comments, Rufus. It's been 
good to meet you, so to speak! I'd best conclude now or I'll be rambling 
on forever!


I wish you and yours a very Happy Easter - have a great weekend! :-)

D.

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Re: Thanks, SM Team.

[David B.]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David B. wrote:


I suppose my next question is, do you run MS Windows on your Macs?

My Apple store have assured me over the last few years that I didn't
*need* any AV programme! I'm in the UK using BT as my ISP. They have
provided McAfee Internet Security FOC as part of my package and, in
addition, BT scans every email before downloading it to my machine!

Personally, I don't have Windows on my iMac!


This news report appeared April 4, 2012:




Summary: The Flashback Trojan botnet reportedly controls over 600,000
Macs. Thankfully, Apple yesterday released a patch for Java, which the
Trojan exploits, so make sure you install it.



Have done! Thanks, Paul :-)
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Re: [Java/Apple/Mozilla] was: (Re: Thanks, SM Team.)

[David B.]

NoOp wrote:

On 04/05/2012 09:38 AM, David B. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

...


I have several - an Intel iMac (my main machine), a G5 iMac, an Intel
Macbook Pro, and a new Mini with an SSD hooked into my living room TV.


Wow! Do you use any anti-virus programmes on any of them?

I was reading here earlier today:
http://community.f-secure.com/t5/Protection/Question-about-OS-X-Flashback-K-trojan/m-p/10815#M2205

...

Gotta love it... Apple is just now getting around to updating java to
release 31:
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT5228

Description: Multiple vulnerabilities exist in Java 1.6.0_29, the most
serious of which may allow an untrusted Java applet to execute arbitrary
code outside the Java sandbox. Visiting a web page containing a
maliciously crafted untrusted Java applet may lead to arbitrary code
execution with the privileges of the current user. These issues are
addressed by updating to Java version 1.6.0_31. Further information is
available via the Java website at
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/releasenotes-136954.html


Pretty far behind the curve given that: 1) .31 was released in February,
and 2) Mozilla tagged&  took action regarding the java issue(s) some
time ago.

This might be of interest/help:
   https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unblocking-java-plugin


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Re: Switching profiles does nothing

[Daniel]

Mickey Fimbres wrote:

I'm new to the monkey, and I thought it would be great to try out.
I've got 2 gmail accounts. One is my personal that I've had for years,
the other is the corporate gmail account.
I created 2 profiles each with their own unique passwords, and
settings.
However when I go to Tools/Switch Profile/ then select the other
profile nothing happens.
One would think that the other email inbox would appear, but nothing
happens at all.
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks
-mickey


Mickey, can you run that past me, again, please??

When you start SM, you are in one profile, and all works well. Right??

Then you try to switch profiles by selecting Tools->Switch Profiles 
and...


Are you looking at your computer desktop?? Are you still in SM?? Are you 
looking at your email screen, but no e-mails are downloaded?? What??


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Java plugins - How to delete?

[W3BNR]

he Java plugins (Deployment Tool Kit & Platform) for version 60.290.11 have been
disabled due to security issues and version 60.310.5 has has been installed.

Plugins for 60.290.11 still show when viewing Tools/Add-ons Manager and are
shown as 'Disabled'.

What is the process for deleting the old versions of these two plug-ins?
'Help' file is of no help for this situation.

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Re: Java plugins - How to delete?

[David E. Ross]

On 4/6/12 8:28 AM, W3BNR wrote:
> he Java plugins (Deployment Tool Kit & Platform) for version 60.290.11 have 
> been
> disabled due to security issues and version 60.310.5 has has been installed.
> 
> Plugins for 60.290.11 still show when viewing Tools/Add-ons Manager and are
> shown as 'Disabled'.
> 
> What is the process for deleting the old versions of these two plug-ins?
> 'Help' file is of no help for this situation.
> 

Unless you moved the plug-in DLL file after installing Java, the
following should work:

1.  On the Windows task bar, select [Start > Settings > Control Panel].

2.  On the Control Panel window, double-click on the Add or Remove
Programs icon.

3.  On the Add or Remove Programs window, select the Java element you
wish to remove and then select the Remove button.

-- 

David E. Ross
.

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bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

[Ray_Net]

hawker wrote, On 06/04/2012 00:12:

On 4/5/2012 3:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:
In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) 
presence of

an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a "feature" invented by the 
developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a
window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a 
"save

attachment".

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry "bugs".

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip& show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right
handside with the zip file name.
After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the
attachment where i can save it.

So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file
to myself.

(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
Windows 7 professionnal with SP1


Any chance your getting e-mail via MAPI and not POP?
I have seen disappearing attachments (that I can still get via the web 
interface) with MAPI e-mail but it all works fine with POP.
This has been happening for quite a while however (since early 2.x 
versions). It seems some clients encode the e-mail differently than 
others and so I have the issue more with certain sending clients only.


For example I have one customer who is unable to send me attachments 
that I can retrieve in SM but they are always there when I use the web 
interface. It is something about that particular clients e-mail only.

Yahoo mail seems to be the worst offender.


I think that mapi nor pop is involved, because i did not have the 
attachment in the mail present in the "Sent" folder  This mail is 
just a copy of the outbox - in other word, the mail did not reach my isp 
servers.

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

[hawker]

On 4/6/2012 3:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

hawker wrote, On 06/04/2012 00:12:

On 4/5/2012 3:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder)
presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a "feature" invented by the
developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a
window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a
"save
attachment".

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry "bugs".

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip& show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right
handside with the zip file name.
After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the
attachment where i can save it.

So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file
to myself.

(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
Windows 7 professionnal with SP1


Any chance your getting e-mail via MAPI and not POP?
I have seen disappearing attachments (that I can still get via the web
interface) with MAPI e-mail but it all works fine with POP.
This has been happening for quite a while however (since early 2.x
versions). It seems some clients encode the e-mail differently than
others and so I have the issue more with certain sending clients only.

For example I have one customer who is unable to send me attachments
that I can retrieve in SM but they are always there when I use the web
interface. It is something about that particular clients e-mail only.
Yahoo mail seems to be the worst offender.



I think that mapi nor pop is involved, because i did not have the
attachment in the mail present in the "Sent" folder  This mail is
just a copy of the outbox - in other word, the mail did not reach my isp
servers.


Gotcha. I missed that part.
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Re: Java plugins - How to delete?

[W3BNR]

On 4/6/2012 1:39 PM David E. Ross submitted the following:
> On 4/6/12 8:28 AM, W3BNR wrote:
>> he Java plugins (Deployment Tool Kit & Platform) for version 60.290.11 have 
>> been
>> disabled due to security issues and version 60.310.5 has has been installed.
>>
>> Plugins for 60.290.11 still show when viewing Tools/Add-ons Manager and are
>> shown as 'Disabled'.
>>
>> What is the process for deleting the old versions of these two plug-ins?
>> 'Help' file is of no help for this situation.
>>
> 
> Unless you moved the plug-in DLL file after installing Java, the
> following should work:
> 
> 1.  On the Windows task bar, select [Start > Settings > Control Panel].
> 
> 2.  On the Control Panel window, double-click on the Add or Remove
> Programs icon.
> 
> 3.  On the Add or Remove Programs window, select the Java element you
> wish to remove and then select the Remove button.
> 

java 60.290.11 doesn't show in that window - only 60.310.5 shows.


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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

[Ray_Net]

NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 05:11:

On 04/05/2012 12:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

...

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right
handside with the zip file name.
After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the
attachment where i can save it.

OK, I still cannot reproduce Ray. However, I do see that the "paperclip
is so small as to appear inexistent when the 'Attachments' column is not
selected. I've not noticed in the past as I turn on the 'Attachments'
column; that gives me a large paperclip. Doing that also removes the
paperclip from the 'envelope', but that's OK with me.


So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file
to myself.

I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you
wish. You can then let me know if you receive it.



It's ok, but you have not used SM to send your mail.
I have the problem in the draft folder and in the sent folder.
If i sent this mail to myself i have also the problem with MY mail in 
the inbox folder.

I will check in my sent folder for this Fwd .

It' also ok, but i see a difference in the source mail.
Your mail sent

Content-Type: application/zip;

and my mail sent:
Content-Type: multipart/x-zip;

I think that is the root of the problem "multipart" for a one-part attachement.

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

[NoOp]

On 04/06/2012 12:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 05:11:
...
>> I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you
>> wish. You can then let me know if you receive it.
>>
>>
> It's ok, but you have not used SM to send your mail.

I did. I sent it to you directly. And here was my reply (off list):

Sure I did:

Message-ID: <4f7e5f5f.8000...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:13:35 -0700
From: NoOp 
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ray_Net 
Subject: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary="050205030303020805080402"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--050205030303020805080402
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also received the zip file attached to your repply:
Content-Type: application/zip;
 name="test.zip"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename="test.zip"
...
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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

[Ray_Net]

NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 22:26:

On 04/06/2012 12:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 05:11:

...

I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you
wish. You can then let me know if you receive it.



It's ok, but you have not used SM to send your mail.

I did. I sent it to you directly. And here was my reply (off list):

Sure I did:

Message-ID:<4f7e5f5f.8000...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:13:35 -0700
From: NoOp
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ray_Net
Subject: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
  boundary="050205030303020805080402"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--050205030303020805080402
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also received the zip file attached to your repply:
Content-Type: application/zip;
  name="test.zip"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
  filename="test.zip"
...

ok, ok, but what do you think about.
Your mail sent: Content-Type: application/zip;
and my mail sent: Content-Type: multipart/x-zip;

I think that is the root of the problem "multipart" for a one-part 
attachement.

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Re: Close buttons on all tabs

[Stan]

Nemo wrote:

Seamonkey 2.8
I want to have close buttons on all tabs, active or not. I would be
grateful for an about:config or userChrome.css tweak.


I've been using this extension for a long time:

http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/extensions-seatabx.html
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"Look and Feel" glitch moving from SM 2.0.8 to SM 2.3.2

[Richard Owlett]

Caution - In mindset I've just made a move from 1.?? to 
2.3.2. When I made a tardy move from 1.? to 2.0.? , I did 
the absolute minimum as I had other "problems" to deal with.


I have a problem with displaying multiple pages saved choosing
Bookmarks -> Bookmark This Group of Tabs

Under SM 2.0.8 , clicking on the group's identifier would 
*automatically* display _all_ the associated pages. [MY 
preferred response]


Under SM 2.3.2 , the default behavior when clicking on the 
group's identifier is to display a sub-menu individually 
displaying each site and then a 'display all" option. The 
*ONLY* option  want is display all. If I will be interested 
in displaying only one of a "related set' of pages, I would 
have bookmarked it/them using "File Bookmark" option.


Before being told RTFM, I'm so lost as to not know 
appropriate keyword(s) for search ;/

[P.S. I've had 'pleasure' of writing IM's in past ;]

TIA



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Re: "Look and Feel" glitch moving from SM 2.0.8 to SM 2.3.2

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 06/04/2012 22:07, Richard Owlett told the world:
> Caution - In mindset I've just made a move from 1.?? to 
> 2.3.2. When I made a tardy move from 1.? to 2.0.? , I did 
> the absolute minimum as I had other "problems" to deal with.
> 
> I have a problem with displaying multiple pages saved choosing
> Bookmarks -> Bookmark This Group of Tabs
> 
> Under SM 2.0.8 , clicking on the group's identifier would 
> *automatically* display _all_ the associated pages. [MY 
> preferred response]
> 
> Under SM 2.3.2 , the default behavior when clicking on the 
> group's identifier is to display a sub-menu individually 
> displaying each site and then a 'display all" option. The 
> *ONLY* option  want is display all. If I will be interested 
> in displaying only one of a "related set' of pages, I would 
> have bookmarked it/them using "File Bookmark" option.
> 
> Before being told RTFM, I'm so lost as to not know 
> appropriate keyword(s) for search ;/
> [P.S. I've had 'pleasure' of writing IM's in past ;]

Unfortunately, the "groupmark" functionality was lost on the transition
from XPFE (the old interface kit used on Seamonkey 1.x) to the Firefox
toolkit (used since 2.0). The transition was necessary because there was
not people to maintain the old XPFE toolkit, and as time went it became
harder and harder to make it work with current versions of the Gecko
engine. And the Firefox guys are not interested in recreating the
"groupmark" feature.

Therefore, there is no longer a "group identifier" -- groupmarks were
converted into subfolders in the bookmarks tree. What you are referring
to as a "group identifier" is just the folder name now.

The old behavior can be approximated, however, by *middle*-clicking (or
Ctrl+clicking) on the folder title. It took me a couple weeks to get
used to the new behavior, but I found it an acceptable substitute. Most
Windows mice nowadays have either a middle button or a clickable scroll
wheel.

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