Re: Profile Problems

2012-04-11 Thread Daniel 

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:


O.K., Frog, lets try again!!

SM 1.1.19 is working, with it's own profile.
SM 2.8 works with its own profile on the E:\ drive.
There are additional profiles on the C:\ that you want to remove.

Completely close SM and do the renaming and relocation in Windows
Explorer or "My Computer".

Just to be absolutely sure you have all your e-mails, search the other
profile locations (not the SM 2.8 profile) for files called inbox and
sent (don't worry about the *.msf files. They are re-created when needed)

Change these file names to, for example, inbox2, inbox2-2 and inbox3.
Same for Sent folders.

Move these renamed files to the E:\ FrogBarb profile, at the same level
as the inbox and sent folders of the FrogBarb profile.

Now, re-start SM 2.8 and you should see the multiply inbox's and Sent's
listed in your profile and, if needed, you can move the e-mails from the
just added files into the original Inbox and Sent folders, and then
close SM 2.8 and the, now, empty folders can be removed in Windows
Explorer. as can the, now unnecessary, C:\ profiles.


Daniel,
I have concluded that there is an idiot in this room, and I'm not sure
if it is the computer or me...I'm starting to think it might be me. In
any event, I have done several things this morning to resolve my profile
problem without success. Here is a recap of my actions so far today.

After receiving your message this morning, I again looked in each of the
four SeaMonkey folders, located under C:\Documents and
Settings\Frog\Application Data\Mozilla, for any signs of inbox and sent
entries. I found no such stored information in the SeaMonkey folders.

Next, I decided to build an E dive repository for all of the four
SeaMonkey folders found listed under C:\Documents and Settings\Kermit
Taylor\Application Data\Mozilla. I then moved these folders from the C
drive to the E drive repository. I was hoping that this action would
would give me a way of testing my two SeaMonkey versions with their
individual Profiles. Well, after moving the files to the new location, I
then clicked the 2.8 ICON on my desktop and it brought me to the window
for setting up SeaMonkey. Obviously there is a connection between my 2.8
profile (FrogBarb) located on my E drive and the Mozilla/SeaMonkey
folders located on my C drive.

I next decided to build a new profile on my E drive for 2.8. I did this
and then copied/pasted the missing folders (Mail etc.) from my FrogBarb
profile into the new profile. That did not work either when I attempted
to open SeaMonkey...I got another window for setting up SeaMonkey. I
then went into Managing Profiles and deleted the new profile. After
that, I re-establish my old FrogBarb profile. I simply started the steps
like I was creating a new profile with the same name as my old profile
(FrogBarb) and pointed it to the place (E drive) where it previously
existed...I was then back to my old profile. I again attempted to fire
up 2.8 with the same results--setting up SeaMonkey as if it was newly
installed software. I shut SeaMonkey down and moved the four SeaMonkey
files, the ones I had moved to my E drive repository, back to the C
drive where they were originally. I again fired up SeaMonkey 2.8 and it
worked normally.

I think I am back to where the morning started. My inbox, sent, etc, for
2,8 are all located on my E drive as they have always been.

I don't know what the tie is between the four SeaMonkey folder, located
at C:\Documents and Settings\Kermit Taylor\Application Data\Mozilla, and
my 2.8 profile folder, located at E:\SeaMonkeyProfile. There surely is a
connection of some type and it beets me as to what that connection is as
this point.

It appears to me that the only solution to this problem is backing up my
current FrogBarb profile...removing SeaMonkey 2.8 entirely from my
computer...reloading SeaMonkey 2.8 again...build a new profile on my E
drive...delete Mail from the new profile and copy-paste the Mail from by
old FrogBarb profile into the new profile...and praying that all of this
will resolve my problem.

Any thoughts...ideas...or recommendations welcomed.

Frog


Hang on, Frog!! Is SM 2.8 using the E: profile? And, I think you 
mentioned you still have SM 1.1.19 still installed! Does it still use a 
profile on C:??


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Re: Profile Problems

2012-04-11 Thread Frog 

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:


O.K., Frog, lets try again!!

SM 1.1.19 is working, with it's own profile.
SM 2.8 works with its own profile on the E:\ drive.
There are additional profiles on the C:\ that you want to remove.

Completely close SM and do the renaming and relocation in Windows
Explorer or "My Computer".

Just to be absolutely sure you have all your e-mails, search the other
profile locations (not the SM 2.8 profile) for files called inbox and
sent (don't worry about the *.msf files. They are re-created when
needed)

Change these file names to, for example, inbox2, inbox2-2 and inbox3.
Same for Sent folders.

Move these renamed files to the E:\ FrogBarb profile, at the same level
as the inbox and sent folders of the FrogBarb profile.

Now, re-start SM 2.8 and you should see the multiply inbox's and Sent's
listed in your profile and, if needed, you can move the e-mails from the
just added files into the original Inbox and Sent folders, and then
close SM 2.8 and the, now, empty folders can be removed in Windows
Explorer. as can the, now unnecessary, C:\ profiles.


Daniel,
I have concluded that there is an idiot in this room, and I'm not sure
if it is the computer or me...I'm starting to think it might be me. In
any event, I have done several things this morning to resolve my profile
problem without success. Here is a recap of my actions so far today.

After receiving your message this morning, I again looked in each of the
four SeaMonkey folders, located under C:\Documents and
Settings\Frog\Application Data\Mozilla, for any signs of inbox and sent
entries. I found no such stored information in the SeaMonkey folders.

Next, I decided to build an E dive repository for all of the four
SeaMonkey folders found listed under C:\Documents and Settings\Kermit
Taylor\Application Data\Mozilla. I then moved these folders from the C
drive to the E drive repository. I was hoping that this action would
would give me a way of testing my two SeaMonkey versions with their
individual Profiles. Well, after moving the files to the new location, I
then clicked the 2.8 ICON on my desktop and it brought me to the window
for setting up SeaMonkey. Obviously there is a connection between my 2.8
profile (FrogBarb) located on my E drive and the Mozilla/SeaMonkey
folders located on my C drive.

I next decided to build a new profile on my E drive for 2.8. I did this
and then copied/pasted the missing folders (Mail etc.) from my FrogBarb
profile into the new profile. That did not work either when I attempted
to open SeaMonkey...I got another window for setting up SeaMonkey. I
then went into Managing Profiles and deleted the new profile. After
that, I re-establish my old FrogBarb profile. I simply started the steps
like I was creating a new profile with the same name as my old profile
(FrogBarb) and pointed it to the place (E drive) where it previously
existed...I was then back to my old profile. I again attempted to fire
up 2.8 with the same results--setting up SeaMonkey as if it was newly
installed software. I shut SeaMonkey down and moved the four SeaMonkey
files, the ones I had moved to my E drive repository, back to the C
drive where they were originally. I again fired up SeaMonkey 2.8 and it
worked normally.

I think I am back to where the morning started. My inbox, sent, etc, for
2,8 are all located on my E drive as they have always been.

I don't know what the tie is between the four SeaMonkey folder, located
at C:\Documents and Settings\Kermit Taylor\Application Data\Mozilla, and
my 2.8 profile folder, located at E:\SeaMonkeyProfile. There surely is a
connection of some type and it beets me as to what that connection is as
this point.

It appears to me that the only solution to this problem is backing up my
current FrogBarb profile...removing SeaMonkey 2.8 entirely from my
computer...reloading SeaMonkey 2.8 again...build a new profile on my E
drive...delete Mail from the new profile and copy-paste the Mail from by
old FrogBarb profile into the new profile...and praying that all of this
will resolve my problem.

Any thoughts...ideas...or recommendations welcomed.

Frog


Hang on, Frog!! Is SM 2.8 using the E: profile? And, I think you
mentioned you still have SM 1.1.19 still installed! Does it still use a
profile on C:??


Yes to both questions.
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Adobe Reader Plug-In

2012-04-11 Thread BIll Spikowski 
I've lost the toolbar that allowed me to save or print a PDF file when
opened in a Seamonkey window, which is pretty essential to make use of
PDF files.

I'm running SM 2.8 in Windows XP and  use the full version of Adobe
Acrobat (now 9.5). When I went to the plug-in section of the SM
add-ons manager, this was reported as being out of date, so I clicked
"update." What I got was a new PDF plug-in for Acrobat 10.1 (and drat
-- those devils at Adobe snuck McAfee Virus Scan right past my
suspicious nose!).

Now I have both Acrobat plug-ins installed and visible in AOM, but
still no toolbar.

Should I uninstall one plug-in or the other?

Since the toolbar problem seems to be unrelated, how might I get it back?
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Re: Adobe Reader Plug-In

2012-04-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

BIll Spikowski wrote:


I've lost the toolbar that allowed me to save or print a PDF file when
opened in a Seamonkey window, which is pretty essential to make use of
PDF files.


It's a convenience, not an essential. If you "print" a file (page, 
whatever), you can choose "Adobe PDF" as your printer and you're good to 
go. But the next time you print during the session, you'll have to 
remember to change it back to your tree-killer.



I'm running SM 2.8 in Windows XP and use the full version of Adobe
Acrobat (now 9.5). When I went to the plug-in section of the SM
add-ons manager, this was reported as being out of date, so I clicked
"update." What I got was a new PDF plug-in for Acrobat 10.1 (and drat
-- those devils at Adobe snuck McAfee Virus Scan right past my
suspicious nose!).


Yeah, they caught me once, too. You can uninstall McAfee the usual way 
from Control Panel. There's a checkbox on the Adobe site when you 
download the file, and it's enabled by default. :-(


BTW, the latest version of Acrobat Pro is 10.1.3, not 9.5. FWIW.

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Re: Adobe Reader Plug-In

2012-04-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

BIll Spikowski wrote:


Since the toolbar problem seems to be unrelated, how might I get it back?


The easy way with a PDF file open in Acrobat in SeaMonkey is to hit F8, 
which toggles the Acrobat toolbar on or off. You can also mouse over the 
document window and click the last button on the toolbar that 
automagically appears at the bottom (the Acrobat logo).


Better yet, you can edit your prefs under Helper Applications to have 
PDFs open in the standalone Acrobat program (which BTW is the default). 
That way you have the full functionality independent of whatever SM 
chooses to do.


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Re: Adobe Reader Plug-In

2012-04-11 Thread BIll Spikowski 
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> Since the toolbar problem seems to be unrelated, how might I get it
>> back?
> 
> The easy way with a PDF file open in Acrobat in SeaMonkey is to hit
> F8, which toggles the Acrobat toolbar on or off. You can also mouse
> over the document window and click the last button on the toolbar that
> automagically appears at the bottom (the Acrobat logo).

F8 indeed gives me a new version of the missing toolbar -- who knew?
It reminds of the old days, when each program required knowledge of
mysterious commands to use its most basic functions.

I had also found the disappearing toolbar at the bottom of the page,
though I hadn't figured out to click the Acrobat logo to make magic
happen.

Still, the resulting print dialog box is a pretty big step down from
what I had before, which I assume was the print dialog from Adobe
Acrobat (not Adobe Reader).

Also, the plug-in has been crashing on me several times per day, so
SOMETHING still isn't right



> Better yet, you can edit your prefs under Helper Applications to have
> PDFs open in the standalone Acrobat program (which BTW is the
> default). That way you have the full functionality independent of
> whatever SM chooses to do.

Until some recent change, I thought I had the best of both worlds.
When I needed full Acrobat functionality, I copied the PDF to the
desktop and opened it from there. The other 95% of the time, the
toolbar gave me sufficient control to easily copy, print, enlarge,
reduce, etc, all from within a SM browser window -- I assume it was a
plug-in from Adobe Acrobat, not from Adobe Reader?

I know I've lost this before after upgrading SM, and always found a
way to get it back -- but I sure can't remember how.

The magically appearing Reader toolbar is a pale imitation of the real
thing -- OK I guess if you're getting software for free, but an awful
substitute for the serious version.

Thanks for the tips, I'm back in business again and hopefully can
troubleshoot the crashing problem, or just give up on using the Reader
plug-in.

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Re: Adobe Reader Plug-In

2012-04-11 Thread MCBastos 
Interviewed by CNN on 11/04/2012 16:42, BIll Spikowski told the world:
> I've lost the toolbar that allowed me to save or print a PDF file when
> opened in a Seamonkey window, which is pretty essential to make use of
> PDF files.
> 
> I'm running SM 2.8 in Windows XP and  use the full version of Adobe
> Acrobat (now 9.5). When I went to the plug-in section of the SM
> add-ons manager, this was reported as being out of date, so I clicked
> "update." What I got was a new PDF plug-in for Acrobat 10.1 (and drat
> -- those devils at Adobe snuck McAfee Virus Scan right past my
> suspicious nose!).
> 
> Now I have both Acrobat plug-ins installed and visible in AOM, but
> still no toolbar.
> 
> Should I uninstall one plug-in or the other?
> 
> Since the toolbar problem seems to be unrelated, how might I get it back?

Personally, I don't find it particularly advantageous to open a PDF
inside the browser window via plugin. Yes, it opens the first page
quickly, but since the other pages are downloaded on-demand, the end
result is sluggish page turning.

I ended up disabling the PDF plugin entirely. Now Seamonkey downloads
the entire PDF file and opens it in Adobe Reader in a separate window. A
few seconds longer to begin, but a much more pleasing reading experience.


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Re: Adobe Reader Plug-In

2012-04-11 Thread David E. Ross 
On 4/11/12 1:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
> 
>> Since the toolbar problem seems to be unrelated, how might I get it back?
> 
> The easy way with a PDF file open in Acrobat in SeaMonkey is to hit F8, 
> which toggles the Acrobat toolbar on or off. You can also mouse over the 
> document window and click the last button on the toolbar that 
> automagically appears at the bottom (the Acrobat logo).
> 
> Better yet, you can edit your prefs under Helper Applications to have 
> PDFs open in the standalone Acrobat program (which BTW is the default). 
> That way you have the full functionality independent of whatever SM 
> chooses to do.
> 

Please note that F8 also toggles between hiding and showing the PrefBar
toolbar.

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Preventing "new version" checking

2012-04-11 Thread Bill Davidsen 
Is there a switch I can set in config to prevent checking for new 
versions of SM? I don't want the pop-up, easiest way to prevent that is 
not to check.


Test environment, 1st rule, when chasing problems change only one thing 
at a time.


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Re: Preventing "new version" checking

2012-04-11 Thread Bill Davidsen 

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Is there a switch I can set in config to prevent checking for new
versions of SM? I don't want the pop-up, easiest way to prevent that is
not to check.

Test environment, 1st rule, when chasing problems change only one thing
at a time.


In reply to a message I got via email and haven't seen here, yes, I did.
app.update.auto;false
app.update.enabled;false

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Re: Preventing "new version" checking

2012-04-11 Thread NoOp 
On 04/11/2012 05:43 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Is there a switch I can set in config to prevent checking for new
>> versions of SM? I don't want the pop-up, easiest way to prevent that is
>> not to check.
>>
>> Test environment, 1st rule, when chasing problems change only one thing
>> at a time.
>>
> In reply to a message I got via email and haven't seen here, yes, I did.
> app.update.auto;false
> app.update.enabled;false
> 

Or you could try the standard way:
Edit|Preferences|Advance|Software Installation
uncheck 'Automatically check for updates

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