Re: [Suggestions]

2012-05-12 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 11 May 2012 18:59:12 -0400, gjikkl wrote:

 * Include SunBird in SeaMonkey.

Lightning (Sunbird as an extension) is available for SeaMonkey:
https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/lightning/
(And has been for quite a while.

Phil

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Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1

2012-05-12 Thread Christian Riechers
On 05/12/2012 05:24 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 05/08/2012 06:55 PM, NoOp wrote:
 Today I updated two linux systems from Java (Oracle) 6 update 32 to Java
 1.7.0.04 ((build 1.7.0_04-b20)) today. Java 1.7.0.04 is working fine on
 the same systems with:

 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/15.0 Firefox/15.0a1
 (Firefox Nightly)
 Chromium: 18.0.1025.168 (Developer Build 134367 Linux) Ubuntu 11.04
 Ephipany Web Browser 2.30.6

 Other applications:
 LibreOffice 3.5.3.2
 LibreOffice 3.4.6

 Java 7u4 is not working on SeaMonkey
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1
 on either system. If Java is backed down to 6u32 then SeaMonkey (and
 Prefbar 6.1 - Ping Manuel) pick it up fine. Tested using
 http://java.com|Do I have Java?

 SeaMonkey  Firefox Java plugin path:
 Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04
 File: /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

 Also tested:
 o Clean 'test' profiles (created new SM profiles and did not use any
 existing profiles).
 o Prefbar 6.1 on Firefox - no issues, so I tested with the existing
 SeaMonkey profiles with Prefbar turned off/on/uninstalled/newly reinstalled.
 o Windows SM 2.9.1 versions + Java 7_4: WinXP  Win7  all work fine.
 o SeaMonkey 2.9.0 - no change.

 No Java related files exist in ~/.mozilla. All versions of Firefox,
 Firefox Nightlies, and SeaMonkey are run from ~/seamonkey (user home
 directories). pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey shows:

 [INVALID]
 /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$
 1334223796000:$

 Whereas pluginreg.dat in Firefox shows:

 libnpjp2.so:$
 /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$
 :$
 1334223796000:0:5:$
 a href=http://java.sun.com;Java/a plug-in for NPAPI-based browsers.:$
 Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_04:$
 36
 0:application/x-java-vm:Java#153 Plug-in::$
 1:application/x-java-applet:Java#153 Plug-in Applet::$
 etc.

 Note: I've renamed pluginreg.dat in SeaMonkey  let SM rebuild the data
 - result is the same.

 Anyone else experiencing the same/similar?

 Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've
 set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey.

 Nobody else? Anyone else (linux) have sun java jre1.7.0_04 installed and
 set as the default java? Again, in Firefox it works fine, in SeaMonkey
 (even with a clean test profile) it does not. *And* with the default
 profile  prefbar 6.1 installed, prefbar declares No Java Plugin
 found!. I suspect it may be a path problem as the same prefbar 6.1
 works just fine in Firefox (I even copy the 6.1 profile to Firefox to test.

I do see the exact same behavior here with OpenSuSE 11.4.
Java 1.7.0_04 works fine with both, FF12 and FF13 beta, but does not
work with SM 2.9.1. I also have the [invalid] section in pluginreg.dat.
Java doesn't even show up in the Add-on manager under plugins.
I haven't noticed before, since I don't use SM often, and Java is
disabled most of the time anyway.

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Re: [linux] Java 7u4 not working in SM 2.9.1

2012-05-12 Thread NoOp
On 05/12/2012 06:47 AM, Christian Riechers wrote:
 On 05/12/2012 05:24 AM, NoOp wrote:
...

 Anyone else experiencing the same/similar?

 Added note: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is also copied on this msg. I've
 set the followup-to mozilla.support.seamonkey.

 Nobody else? Anyone else (linux) have sun java jre1.7.0_04 installed and
 set as the default java? Again, in Firefox it works fine, in SeaMonkey
 (even with a clean test profile) it does not. *And* with the default
 profile  prefbar 6.1 installed, prefbar declares No Java Plugin
 found!. I suspect it may be a path problem as the same prefbar 6.1
 works just fine in Firefox (I even copy the 6.1 profile to Firefox to test.
 
 I do see the exact same behavior here with OpenSuSE 11.4.
 Java 1.7.0_04 works fine with both, FF12 and FF13 beta, but does not
 work with SM 2.9.1. I also have the [invalid] section in pluginreg.dat.
 Java doesn't even show up in the Add-on manager under plugins.
 I haven't noticed before, since I don't use SM often, and Java is
 disabled most of the time anyway.
 

Thanks Christian! I also tested with the nightly
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/15.0
Firefox/15.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.12a1
and it doesn't work there as well. I did find that SeaMonkey is marking
Java 7 as invalid in the pluginreg.dat file:

[INVALID]
/opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so:$
1334223796000:$

Given that it does work with SeaMonkey in Windows (XP and 7), I suspect
that the linux builds may still have a paramater that blocklists Java 7.
Maybe related to the older Mozilla blocklist?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p85
Who is affected?
All Firefox users who have installed the Java plugin, JRE versions
below 1.6.0_31 or between 1.7.0 and 1.7.0_2.
Perhaps it doesn't recognize 1.7.0_4? I've checked
/seamonkey/blocklist.xml and no java is listed there, so that's not it.
I guess I'll try the old fashioned way with a symlink in ~./mozilla/plugins.

Thanks again for verifying.

Gary




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How to find out what font family/size Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 used for main mail messages window?

2012-05-12 Thread Michael Lueck

Greetings,

In the main mail messages window, TB 2.x seemed to have used a lighter weight 
font than SM uses.

Someone already posted a Stylish way to adjust the font in the main SM mail 
window, which works successfully.

Any thoughts on what to adjust the font family to in order to obtain what TB 
2.x used? We have both Linux and Windows installations, and on both OS's the SM 
font is heavier than TB was.

Sincerely,

--
Michael Lueck
Lueck Data Systems
http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
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Re: Does user agent spoofing should work for extensions ?

2012-05-12 Thread Rubens

MCBastos wrote, on 11/5/2012 23:57:

Interviewed by CNN on 11/05/2012 18:37, Rubens told the world:


I have been able to access my bank services using Seamonkey by
installing the
User Agent Switcher extension and configuring that to spoof Firefox 11.

Now, the bank is requiring customers to install a proprietary security
extension
developed for Firefox, but that does not install, saying it is not
compatible with Seamonkey 2.9.1.

I have also tried to install the checkCompatibility 1.3 extension but
it did not help.


Rubens, I'm guessing you are from Brazil like me?

Well... here's the thing: those security add-ons apparently have
binary modules, and as such they *have* to be recompiled for every new
Mozilla browser version. Hacking the RDF is not enough. For instance,
Itaú STILL hasn't released a Firefox 12-compatible version of their
plugin, so I wasn't able to update Firefox yet (they tell me the new
version should be ready by May 16, by the way... I don't know how is the
situation in other banks, but it seems to be about the same, for all
banks that use G-Buster security technology)

Even if you hack the RDF to list Seamonkey as compatible, you still
probably won't be able to install the plugin in Seamonkey 2.9.1 --
because it's the wrong Gecko version. It *might* be possible to fool it
into installing on Seamonkey 2.8, or perhaps after the new version of
the plugin is (finally) released.

Myself, I sorta gave up on using Seamonkey for banking. It's the banks'
fault for using heavy-handed, poorly-supported security solutions. What
I'm doing now is this: I have a folder with Portable Firefox 11 which I
use *only* for banking. That way, its out-of-date status does not impact
my regular browsing. Being the Portable version, it doesn't try to steal
the default browser setting from Seamonkey (and I can even have a
regular, updated, copy of Firefox too, if I wish).

It's a bother, but it's still WAY, WAY better than using Internet
Explorer for banking -- besides all the reasons not to like IE (and I
see you are on XP, so you can't even have the slightly-less-evil IE9),
the Internet Explorer version of the G-Buster so-called security
solution installs as a rootkit, and causes all sorts of problems.



Hello MC, yes I am from Brazil like you.


You went right to the point: I am a Itaú bank customer, and in order to 
avoid all
the hassles caused by the G-Buster solution (and also because I hate 
the evil IEs)

I was using Firefox 11 to do my home banking.

Surprisingly, after abandoning Firefox 11 and upgrading my old Seamonkey 
1.1.19
to version 2.9.1, I was still able to use my account *even without* 
installing

the G-Buster extension.

After a while, somehow they noticed that and since two days ago that is 
no longer working.


Thanks for sharing you portable Firefox 11 solution, it is a great idea 
and for sure

I am going to use it, hoping we can go back to Seamonkey for home banking
some day in the future.

About the install.rdf hacking as commented by some fellows, I really did 
that

successfully for some extensions, but for this specific case it didn´t work.


Regards,


Rubens
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Re: Does user agent spoofing should work for extensions ?

2012-05-12 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rubens wrote:


Hello MC, yes I am from Brazil like you.

You went right to the point: I am a Itaú bank customer, and in order
to avoid all the hassles caused by the G-Buster solution (and also
because I hate the evil IEs) I was using Firefox 11 to do my home
banking.

Surprisingly, after abandoning Firefox 11 and upgrading my old
SeaMonkey 1.1.19 to version 2.9.1, I was still able to use my account
*even without* installing the G-Buster extension.

After a while, somehow they noticed that and since two days ago that
is no longer working.

Thanks for sharing you portable Firefox 11 solution, it is a great
idea and for sure I am going to use it, hoping we can go back to
SeaMonkey for home banking some day in the future.

About the install.rdf hacking as commented by some fellows, I really
did that successfully for some extensions, but for this specific case
it didn't work.


You guys will probably find these links interesting and/or entertaining:

http://www.gringoes.com/forum/printer_friendly_posts.asp?TID=14465
Gripe session on G-Buster/Brazilian banks

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_programs/impossible-to-get-rid-of-g-buster-browser-defense/9536bffb-ef87-4d48-b046-10eb68af37c0
Various thoughts on how to remove the worm.

http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=61409
Another guy's idea on how to remove the worm (I make no claims or 
warranties as to accuracy or efficacy).


From what I've read, the idea seems to be that the user must install 
Internet security software, but it's not enough that they do so, they 
must install precisely the bank's preferred ISS. On every ^%$#^% machine 
they ever use to access the account. It makes me wonder if the banks 
have a financial relationship to the SW vendor.


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