Re: iPhone's e-mails with attached photos.

2012-05-15 Thread Ant 

On 5/15/2012 6:53 AM PT, hawker typed:


I use Image Zoom and it has a right mouse button rotate feature (as well
as mouse wheel zoom). I hear it is no longer being maintained but it
still seems to work fine for me.

http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net/


And it's fully compatible with old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 and the latest 
versions?

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-15 Thread GerardJan 

NoOp wrote:

On 05/15/2012 10:58 AM, chicagofan wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/14/2012 05:22 PM, Jean Zebloski wrote:

Why would Seamonkey be chewing up 430 megs of RAM all the time?



about:memory will show you all of the details.




What are "dirty" heaps?  :)
bj


You mean 'heap-dirty'?

Hover your mouse over 'heap-dirty' and leave it there for a second; a
definition/description should pop up and provide you the information.

Note: you can do the same for any other item. Plus you can click on
'Verbose' for additional items under the Main Process trees.




a lot of info,,, i didn't know about:memory 
http://vinkesteijn.info/Screenshot.png


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Re: Painfully slow graphics rendering

2012-05-15 Thread NoOp 
On 05/15/2012 12:15 PM, Craig wrote:
...
> I went to nvidia.com and downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.49.run, the 
> latest non-beta driver for my GeForce 8600GT they have. After doing an 
> init 3 and installing the driver (with their libraries) I have found:
> 
> - If I go to 
> http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/829-Folsom-Street-414-San-Francisco-CA-94107/2120805344_zpid/
>  
> with Flash disabled as NoOp suggested, after an initial processor load 
> for loading the graphics, my processor load is low. It is, however, 
> higher than displaying the Add-ons Manager tab. With the Add-ons Manager 
> tab displayed, the only thing that shows up regularly in top is top 
> itself, at a %CPU of 0.0, 2.4, or 4.9. With the Folsom Street visible, 
> seamonkey-bin shows up regularly at a $CPU of 12.2 and occasionally 14.9 
> and 17.1.
> 
> - If I go to Zillow's page for showing a map of an area, 
> http://www.zillow.com/homes/shingletown,-ca_rb/ , for example, the 
> processor load goes up noticably. Now seamonkey-bin's load varies 
> between 35% and 80%, with Xorg varying complementarily to make up close 
> to 100%.
> 
> So, where I spend most of my time on Zillow, looking at the map of an 
> area, is still not improved. And I don't need to minimize a window; all 
> I need to do is go to another tab.

I like those prices better than the San Franciso prices :-)

With flash turned on I can get up to about 21% cpu & 15% memory (2GB is
what is being used, the other 1GB is allocated to vmware. Processor is a
single-core P4 2.4Mhz. These are after the site grapics have loaded &
'settled'.

2808 gg20   0  977m 463m  30m S 21.2 15.4  14:03.22
seamonkey-bin
 5351 gg10 -10 1402m 1.1g 1.0g S  7.3 36.3  17:25.71 vmware-vmx

 1444 root  20   0  284m 107m  12m S  3.0  3.6   9:55.02 Xorg

 1844 gg20   0  184m  19m 7292 S  3.0  0.7   3:21.59 compiz

With flash off it's about the same.

 2808 gg20   0  971m 461m  30m S 14.2 15.3  15:00.59
seamonkey-bin

Note: there doesn't actually seem to be any flash on the page.

With Opera running at the same time & both browsers on the same page,
Opera register about 0.3 cpu & about 12% memory:

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND

 5351 gg10 -10 1402m 960m 923m S  6.3 31.8  18:39.49 vmware-vmx

 2808 gg20   0  972m 459m  29m S  5.0 15.2  16:07.62
seamonkey-bin
 1444 root  20   0  299m 119m  12m S  2.7  4.0  11:01.30 Xorg

 1844 gg20   0  200m  19m 7128 S  1.7  0.6   3:47.69 compiz

 1854 gg 9 -11  165m 3832 2736 S  1.0  0.1   1:59.93 pulseaudio

 2347 gg20   0  188m  18m  13m S  0.7  0.6   2:18.56
clock-applet
 1726 saned 20   0  2652  332  316 S  0.3  0.0   0:00.59 saned

 2341 gg20   0  103m  13m  10m D  0.3  0.5   0:56.63
sensors-applet
 2443 root  20   0 56868 1868 1300 S  0.3  0.1   1:03.92 bdfiled

 2667 gg20   0  120m  16m  12m S  0.3  0.5   0:07.33
gnome-terminal
 5154 gg20   0  177m  35m  16m S  0.3  1.2   0:46.70 vmplayer

 5941 gg20   0  466m 359m  23m S  0.3 11.9   1:09.12 opera

However... I can easily get Opera up to 41/12:
  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND

 5941 gg20   0  458m 369m  21m S 41.7 12.2   3:14.35 opera

 1444 root  20   0  291m 112m  12m S 13.5  3.7  12:18.47 Xorg

 5351 gg10 -10 1402m 893m 857m S 10.8 29.6  20:24.12 vmware-vmx

 1844 gg20   0  199m  17m 6156 S  5.3  0.6   4:28.31 compiz

 2808 gg20   0  976m 466m  26m S  1.6 15.4  17:38.88 seamonkey-bin

simply by scrolling through the 9 photos here:

...
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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-15 Thread NoOp 
On 05/15/2012 10:58 AM, chicagofan wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 05/14/2012 05:22 PM, Jean Zebloski wrote:
>>> Why would Seamonkey be chewing up 430 megs of RAM all the time?
>>>
>>
>> about:memory will show you all of the details.
>>
>>
> 
> What are "dirty" heaps?  :)
> bj

You mean 'heap-dirty'?

Hover your mouse over 'heap-dirty' and leave it there for a second; a
definition/description should pop up and provide you the information.

Note: you can do the same for any other item. Plus you can click on
'Verbose' for additional items under the Main Process trees.


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Re: iPhone's e-mails with attached photos.

2012-05-15 Thread NoOp 
On 05/14/2012 05:11 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
> Ironically, my sister-in-law sent me two photos from her iPhone4s last
> night... indeed both were upside down. Examining the Exif data in both
> shows:
> 
> Orientation: Rotate 180
> 
> SeaMonkey is displaying the photos exactly as expected by the EXIF
> information. Note: an Exif with an 'Orientation' tag that is not rotated
> would show:
...
I'm now wondering if I got that backwards and 'Orientation: Rotate 180'
is the EXIF information telling the application to display the photo
180' rotated. If I open the same photo in GIMP, GIMP pops up the
following 'Rotate Image?' popup:

"According to the EXIF data, this image is rotated. Would you like GIMP
to rotate it into the standard orientation?"

So it looks like I was wrong (180' out of wack). Mea Culpa.

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-15 Thread chicagofan 

NoOp wrote:

On 05/15/2012 10:58 AM, chicagofan wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 05/14/2012 05:22 PM, Jean Zebloski wrote:

Why would Seamonkey be chewing up 430 megs of RAM all the time?



about:memory will show you all of the details.




What are "dirty" heaps?  :)
bj


You mean 'heap-dirty'?

Hover your mouse over 'heap-dirty' and leave it there for a second; a
definition/description should pop up and provide you the information.

Note: you can do the same for any other item. Plus you can click on
'Verbose' for additional items under the Main Process trees.



Thanks!!!  I did not know that!   :)
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Re: Painfully slow graphics rendering

2012-05-15 Thread Craig 

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 14/05/2012 23:01, Craig told the world:


If I go to a graphics intensive site like maps.google.com or
www.zillow.com, Seamonkey saturates one of my processor's cores and it
becomes very slow to respond. Specifically, on maps.google.com, changing
from the map display to the satellite display is painfully slow. Zillow
just saturates one of my processor's cores most of the time.

Is there any fix for this?


You might attempt to update your video drivers. Mozilla products are
known to block hardware acceleration on older video drivers due to
stability reasons.


I went to nvidia.com and downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.49.run, the 
latest non-beta driver for my GeForce 8600GT they have. After doing an 
init 3 and installing the driver (with their libraries) I have found:


- If I go to 
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/829-Folsom-Street-414-San-Francisco-CA-94107/2120805344_zpid/ 
with Flash disabled as NoOp suggested, after an initial processor load 
for loading the graphics, my processor load is low. It is, however, 
higher than displaying the Add-ons Manager tab. With the Add-ons Manager 
tab displayed, the only thing that shows up regularly in top is top 
itself, at a %CPU of 0.0, 2.4, or 4.9. With the Folsom Street visible, 
seamonkey-bin shows up regularly at a $CPU of 12.2 and occasionally 14.9 
and 17.1.


- If I go to Zillow's page for showing a map of an area, 
http://www.zillow.com/homes/shingletown,-ca_rb/ , for example, the 
processor load goes up noticably. Now seamonkey-bin's load varies 
between 35% and 80%, with Xorg varying complementarily to make up close 
to 100%.


So, where I spend most of my time on Zillow, looking at the map of an 
area, is still not improved. And I don't need to minimize a window; all 
I need to do is go to another tab.


The results with Flash turned on are essentially the same as it off.


Craig
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Re: View of the mailbox has changed with 2.9.1

2012-05-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR 



Maciej wrote:


Previously my mailbox by default (when opening SeaMonkey) was shown in
such a way that:
a) by default the coursor started on Inbox, I could immediately see
all my old messages and new messages being downloaded.
b) the tree of folders was displayed - the branches previoslu opened
remained opened to subbranches, with a (-) sign visible, those
previously closed were closed, with a (+) sign visible,

Now when SeaMonkey starts, the coursor stays on the account name - and
I have to admit that with my computer there is only one and single
SeaMonkey account.
I can see only three lines
(+) My_account
(+) Blogs and news
(+) Local folders
and I have to click on (+) to open the branches of My-account, I have
to move the coursor down to Inbox. Only then I can see the downloading
e-mails. Now all the branches are closed. I have to click on another
(+) to open the subranches of Inbox.

That's not what I always liked with  SeaMonkey (and previously
Netscape). How to return to the previous configuration (set up,
preferences, or whatever it is)>  I was searching for it - but for
vain.


I don't experience this. To try to replicate the behaviour you are
experiencing, I collapsed all trees, shut down all Seamonkey windows,
and then re-started Seamonkey mail.  Once it was launched, I could
see all of the top-level folders in my primary e-mail account,
and the focus was on "Inbox", so I could see the most recent
messages therein.  I see no "+" or "-" signs associated with
folders; I see instead triangles that can point East (Concealed) or
South-East (expanded).

Philip Taylor (Windows 7 32-bit, Seamonkey 2.9.1)
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View of the mailbox has changed with 2.9.1

2012-05-15 Thread Maciej 
Previously my mailbox by default (when opening SeaMonkey) was shown in
such a way that:
a) by default the coursor started on Inbox, I could immediately see
all my old messages and new messages being downloaded.
b) the tree of folders was displayed - the branches previoslu opened
remained opened to subbranches, with a (-) sign visible, those
previously closed were closed, with a (+) sign visible,

Now when SeaMonkey starts, the coursor stays on the account name - and
I have to admit that with my computer there is only one and single
SeaMonkey account.
I can see only three lines
(+) My_account
(+) Blogs and news
(+) Local folders
and I have to click on (+) to open the branches of My-account, I have
to move the coursor down to Inbox. Only then I can see the downloading
e-mails. Now all the branches are closed. I have to click on another
(+) to open the subranches of Inbox.

That's not what I always liked with  SeaMonkey (and previously
Netscape). How to return to the previous configuration (set up,
preferences, or whatever it is)> I was searching for it - but for
vain.

regards,

Maciek

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Re: Massive RAM usage

2012-05-15 Thread chicagofan 

NoOp wrote:

On 05/14/2012 05:22 PM, Jean Zebloski wrote:

Why would Seamonkey be chewing up 430 megs of RAM all the time?



about:memory will show you all of the details.




What are "dirty" heaps?  :)
bj
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Re: Thanks from a win 2000 user

2012-05-15 Thread GerardJan 

Ray Davison wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

I just want to thank the SeaMonkey team for maintaining compatibility
with Win2k! :)


Uhhh... you know, this might not be the best time for these particular
thanks...


Below is from the 2.10 release notes.

Ray



What's New in SeaMonkey 2.10

SeaMonkey 2.10 contains the following major changes relative to
SeaMonkey 2.9:
SeaMonkey-specific changes

 The domain name is highlighted in the location bar by default now,
configurable in Preferences.
 The amount of tabs to be restored concurrently can be configured in
Preferences now.
 News username and password auth dialogs have been combined and show
for which server the prompt is now.

Mozilla platform changes

 The new minimum supported Windows version is now XP SP2, Windows
2000 support has been dropped.
 The SPDY protocol now enabled by default for faster browsing on
supported sites
 The column-fill CSS property has been implemented.
 Experimental support for ECMAScript 6 Map and Set objects has been
implemented.
 Support for the CSS3 background-position property extended syntax
has been added.
 The :invalid pseudo-class can now be applied to the  element.
 The CSS turn  unit is now supported.
 Fixed several stability issues.



yeah !
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Re: Thanks from a win 2000 user

2012-05-15 Thread Ray Davison 

MCBastos wrote:

I just want to thank the SeaMonkey team for maintaining compatibility with 
Win2k! :)


Uhhh... you know, this might not be the best time for these particular
thanks...


Below is from the 2.10 release notes.

Ray



What's New in SeaMonkey 2.10

SeaMonkey 2.10 contains the following major changes relative to 
SeaMonkey 2.9:

SeaMonkey-specific changes

The domain name is highlighted in the location bar by default now, 
configurable in Preferences.
The amount of tabs to be restored concurrently can be configured in 
Preferences now.
News username and password auth dialogs have been combined and show 
for which server the prompt is now.


Mozilla platform changes

The new minimum supported Windows version is now XP SP2, Windows 
2000 support has been dropped.
The SPDY protocol now enabled by default for faster browsing on 
supported sites

The column-fill CSS property has been implemented.
Experimental support for ECMAScript 6 Map and Set objects has been 
implemented.
Support for the CSS3 background-position property extended syntax 
has been added.

The :invalid pseudo-class can now be applied to the  element.
The CSS turn  unit is now supported.
Fixed several stability issues.

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Re: iPhone's e-mails with attached photos.

2012-05-15 Thread GerardJan 

hawker wrote:

On 5/15/2012 8:14 AM, Ant wrote:

Now, we confirmed that this is happening to others. Is there an
option/addon to give users to flip/rotate the attached images? Or do we
have to manually save the image attachments and use another programs to
do them manually? :(


On 5/13/2012 9:06 AM PT, Ant typed:


Hi!

Is it me or do iPhone e-mails, with attached photos., are shown the
wrong way like upside down? Do you guys have this problem or just me?
The senders say their sent e-mailed images look fine in their sent
folder.

Thank you in advance. :)


I use Image Zoom and it has a right mouse button rotate feature (as well
as mouse wheel zoom).  I hear it is no longer being maintained but it
still seems to work fine for me.

http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net/


NOW YOU SEE THAT pHILLIPE HAD *no* BORDERELINE!!!

REGARDS,

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Re: iPhone's e-mails with attached photos.

2012-05-15 Thread hawker 

On 5/15/2012 8:14 AM, Ant wrote:

Now, we confirmed that this is happening to others. Is there an
option/addon to give users to flip/rotate the attached images? Or do we
have to manually save the image attachments and use another programs to
do them manually? :(


On 5/13/2012 9:06 AM PT, Ant typed:


Hi!

Is it me or do iPhone e-mails, with attached photos., are shown the
wrong way like upside down? Do you guys have this problem or just me?
The senders say their sent e-mailed images look fine in their sent
folder.

Thank you in advance. :)


I use Image Zoom and it has a right mouse button rotate feature (as well 
as mouse wheel zoom).  I hear it is no longer being maintained but it 
still seems to work fine for me.


http://imagezoom.yellowgorilla.net/
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Re: Need Windows Media Player plugin for SM 2.91 that works with WIN 7 x64

2012-05-15 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
Jim Taylor wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Jim Taylor wrote:
>>> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 Anybody have a link for the correct plugin? When I go to a site like
 http://www.odyovi.com/greece/athens/free-online-greek-tv/watch-live/mega-tv



 and try to run it on SM 2.91 and Win7 x64, it tells me I need to
 install WMP 11.0. When I try to install, it fails.
>>>
>>> I have the Microsoft Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin version
>>> 1.0.0.8
>>> installed and that video plays for me.
>>>
>>> See if these two links help.
>>>
>>> Instructions:
>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Windows_Media_Player
>>>
>>> Link to download:
>>> http://www.interoperabilitybridges.com/windows-media-player-firefox-plugin-download
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>> I was able to install it using the above link and it works for Firefox
>> but not for SM 2.91. I'll have to read the above instructions and see
>> if I can find a clue of why it won't work.
> 
> For SeaMonkey you have to manually copy the plugin to SeaMonkeys plugin
> directory and restart SeaMonkey, did you do that?  The Installing the
> New Plugin section of the instruction link tells you where to find it
> and where to put it.
> 
> "SeaMonkey 1.x, SeaMonkey 2, Minefield, or in a custom Firefox
> installation, you will need to copy the "np-mswmp.dll" file to your
> browser's plugins folder. [6] For example, for SeaMonkey 2, copy
> "np-mswmp.dll" to the "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins" folder or, on
> 64-bit Windows, to the "C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\plugins" folder."
> 
> See the link for where to find the file.
> 
> Jim
> 
That did it. Thanks again for the tip.
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Re: Magic!! OT

2012-05-15 Thread Daniel 

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Daniel wrote:


MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 15/05/2012 01:07, GerardJan told the world:



Hey MCBastos, what magic did you perform to get this reply to GerardJan
to appear in a thread in which GerardJan had made no post??


GerardJan's posts are regularly removed by the moderator.


Or have you replied to a post made by GerardJan and then GerardJan's
post was removed from the server??


Yes, that's it. If you happen to catch one of his posts, it would be
because the moderator was off-duty. Most likely your question, and my
reply will be removed as well.



Tks, BTS, and of course they should be removed!! They have nothing to do 
with SM, do they??  ;-)


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Re: Magic!! OT

2012-05-15 Thread GerardJan 

GerardJan wrote:

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 15/05/2012 01:07, GerardJan told the world:





Hey MCBastos, what magic did you perform to get this reply to GerardJan
to appear in a thread in which GerardJan had made no post??

Or have you replied to a post made by GerardJan and then GerardJan's
post was removed from the server??



strict orders from my manager Barbara, *no* internet during the night,
they cutoff D-Link WiFi at night from now on



nice cafe largo.. keeps you awake

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Re: iPhone's e-mails with attached photos.

2012-05-15 Thread Ant 
Now, we confirmed that this is happening to others. Is there an 
option/addon to give users to flip/rotate the attached images? Or do we 
have to manually save the image attachments and use another programs to 
do them manually? :(



On 5/13/2012 9:06 AM PT, Ant typed:


Hi!

Is it me or do iPhone e-mails, with attached photos., are shown the
wrong way like upside down? Do you guys have this problem or just me?
The senders say their sent e-mailed images look fine in their sent folder.

Thank you in advance. :)

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Re: synchronize

2012-05-15 Thread GerardJan 

Rick Merrill wrote:

Will 'synchronize' work with newsgroups?  someday?


I thought it works for me on Windows7 :/

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synchronize

2012-05-15 Thread Rick Merrill 

Will 'synchronize' work with newsgroups?  someday?
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Re: Magic!! OT (was:- Re: Thanks from a win 2000 user)

2012-05-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 
Daniel wrote:

> MCBastos wrote:
>> Interviewed by CNN on 15/05/2012 01:07, GerardJan told the world:
> 
> 
> Hey MCBastos, what magic did you perform to get this reply to GerardJan
> to appear in a thread in which GerardJan had made no post??

GerardJan's posts are regularly removed by the moderator.

> Or have you replied to a post made by GerardJan and then GerardJan's
> post was removed from the server??

Yes, that's it. If you happen to catch one of his posts, it would be 
because the moderator was off-duty. Most likely your question, and my 
reply will be removed as well.

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Re: Magic!! OT

2012-05-15 Thread GerardJan 

Daniel wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 15/05/2012 01:07, GerardJan told the world:





Hey MCBastos, what magic did you perform to get this reply to GerardJan
to appear in a thread in which GerardJan had made no post??

Or have you replied to a post made by GerardJan and then GerardJan's
post was removed from the server??



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they cutoff D-Link WiFi at night from now on


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Magic!! OT (was:- Re: Thanks from a win 2000 user)

2012-05-15 Thread Daniel 

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 15/05/2012 01:07, GerardJan told the world:





Hey MCBastos, what magic did you perform to get this reply to GerardJan 
to appear in a thread in which GerardJan had made no post??


Or have you replied to a post made by GerardJan and then GerardJan's 
post was removed from the server??


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