Re: Massive RAM usage
Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj urj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? [root@gershwin ~]# fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x827c953a Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *2048 206847 1024007 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 20684897861631488273927 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda39786163298885631 512000 83 Linux /dev/sda498885632 976773167 4389437685 Extended /dev/sda598887680 976773119 438942720 8e Linux LVM Command (m for help): q [root@gershwin ~]# -- ~Vink GerardJan Vinkesteijn VRI http://vinkesteijn.info mailto://g.j.f.vinkeste...@hotmail.es http://ciudadpatricia.com on Linux ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: View of the mailbox has changed with 2.9.1
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Daniel wrote: Maciej, what you have to do is set SM up as you want it and then get SM to save that setting. Click on the little SeaMonkey icon up in the top left of the SM screen and there should be an option there to save settings or similar. HTH You mean the one that offers Restore Move Size Minimize Maximize Close as for every Windows program? I used to know where to set SM to save/not save the layout, but I can't seem to find it anymore. O.K., you caught me!! I'm sure it used to be there, and as I was not on my Windows 7 install, I just assumed it was still up there!! Sorry! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Verizon Connection...
Hello all, I Am using SM 2.91 on Vista Business in a Lenovo T61 Laptop. Starting last week I began having challenges connecting to get or send email through VZ. Timing out before sending or receiving is the issue. My yahoo and gmail accounts are all fine and responsive. I have made all of the changes 'required' by vz to no avail. Webmail does work, sporadically from the several computers I have used to check that through. Any ideas or suggestions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Connection...
On 5/17/2012 7:29 AM, NO wrote: Hello all, I Am using SM 2.91 on Vista Business in a Lenovo T61 Laptop. Starting last week I began having challenges connecting to get or send email through VZ. Timing out before sending or receiving is the issue. My yahoo and gmail accounts are all fine and responsive. I have made all of the changes 'required' by vz to no avail. Webmail does work, sporadically from the several computers I have used to check that through. Any ideas or suggestions? What port are you sending or receiving from? What type of mail (POP? IMAP?) What security settings? What servers are you sending to and from? All this is factors in trouble shooting. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ What's another word for thesaurus? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.9.1 color scheme
I accomplished two things this last week: 1. New Computer - now running Windows 7 2. Installed SM 2.9.1 on new computer Using the SM Default Theme when I 'hover' over an item, either the icon for a drop-down menu or an item in the drop-down menu the text changes to white and the background is the same as the existing background except lighter.. Very hard to read what is selected. If I switch to SM Modern Theme this hovering action shows black text on a light blue background. Easy to read. Also on my Linux Mint machine running SM 2.9.1 Default theme the background is black and the text is white. Also easy to read. This would seem be be a change in SM 2.9.1 not Win 7. Anyone else seeing this? -- Ed, W3BNR http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Nothing is troublesome that we do willingly. -Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Connection...
On 5/17/2012 9:59 AM hawker submitted the following: On 5/17/2012 7:29 AM, NO wrote: Hello all, I Am using SM 2.91 on Vista Business in a Lenovo T61 Laptop. Starting last week I began having challenges connecting to get or send email through VZ. Timing out before sending or receiving is the issue. My yahoo and gmail accounts are all fine and responsive. I have made all of the changes 'required' by vz to no avail. Webmail does work, sporadically from the several computers I have used to check that through. Any ideas or suggestions? What port are you sending or receiving from? What type of mail (POP? IMAP?) What security settings? What servers are you sending to and from? All this is factors in trouble shooting. Are you configured as requested by Verizon? http://www22.verizon.com/Support/Residential/Internet/fiosinternet/email/setup+and+use/questionsone/124274.htm -- http://JonesFarm.us Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other. -Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.9.1 color scheme
W3BNR wrote: I accomplished two things this last week: 1. New Computer - now running Windows 7 2. Installed SM 2.9.1 on new computer Using the SM Default Theme when I 'hover' over an item, either the icon for a drop-down menu or an item in the drop-down menu the text changes to white and the background is the same as the existing background except lighter.. Very hard to read what is selected. If I switch to SM Modern Theme this hovering action shows black text on a light blue background. Easy to read. Also on my Linux Mint machine running SM 2.9.1 Default theme the background is black and the text is white. Also easy to read. This would seem be be a change in SM 2.9.1 not Win 7. Anyone else seeing this? Not at all what I'm seeing. Hover over, e.g., File on the menu and it buttonizes but no color change. Click File and hover over New and that turns to white text on a black background. You sure you don't have something in your userChrome.css file that is doing this? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ You must be Daddy's little pumpkin, I can tell by the way you roll. - John Prine ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Ed Mullen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. What number on about:memory are you looking at? Looking at the largest number I see - vsize - on my Mac installation, 2 tabs open, shows 3,860.13 MB. Which seems excessive to me...and that's with my cashe size set to zero. Other than that, the number for explicit is 171.98 MB, which seems more reasonable. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Painfully slow graphics rendering
NoOp wrote: I like those prices better than the San Franciso prices :-) Indeed! With Opera running at the same time both browsers on the same page, Opera register about 0.3 cpu about 12% memory: However... I can easily get Opera up to 41/12: simply by scrolling through the 9 photos here: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10360-Ritts-Mill-Rd-Shingletown-CA-96088/69815673_zpid/ OK, but that's not what I spend most of the time doing. On another note, the graphics driver update has made Google Maps work MUCH more quickly -- it's even usable now! :-) Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.9.1 color scheme
On 5/17/2012 2:28 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: W3BNR wrote: I accomplished two things this last week: 1. New Computer - now running Windows 7 2. Installed SM 2.9.1 on new computer Using the SM Default Theme when I 'hover' over an item, either the icon for a drop-down menu or an item in the drop-down menu the text changes to white and the background is the same as the existing background except lighter.. Very hard to read what is selected. If I switch to SM Modern Theme this hovering action shows black text on a light blue background. Easy to read. Also on my Linux Mint machine running SM 2.9.1 Default theme the background is black and the text is white. Also easy to read. This would seem be be a change in SM 2.9.1 not Win 7. Anyone else seeing this? Not at all what I'm seeing. Hover over, e.g., File on the menu and it buttonizes but no color change. Click File and hover over New and that turns to white text on a black background. You sure you don't have something in your userChrome.css file that is doing this? If that were the case I would expect both SM Themes to respond alike. But just to make sure, I renamed userChrome.css to userChrome.sav. No difference in above results. -- Ed, W3BNR http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Nobody believes a rumor here in Washington until it's officially denied. ~Edward Cheyfitz ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? If he has only 4 MB of RAM, he's running a wristwatch, not a computer. He must've meant 4 GB. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Off-topic : Massive RAM usage
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: If he has only 4 MB of RAM, he's running a wristwatch, not a computer. He must've meant 4 GB. 4Mb is /massive/, man : the first computer on which I worked had 8K ! (Clary 404, sequential architecture, but a very powerful instruction set : one of my 3rd- year students wrote a chess end-game solver in Clary assembler). Philip Taylor. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Ed Mullen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. Now you're trying to confuse me :) GerardJan wrote 4Mbytes. You write 4Gb Ram! 12 x 41 = 492 megs. But you write that 12 tabs use 155,740 Kb of RAM! Are you discussing the same case Ed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Suggestions]
Philip Chee wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 18:59:12 -0400, gjikkl wrote: * Include SunBird in SeaMonkey. Lightning (Sunbird as an extension) is available for SeaMonkey: https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/lightning/ (And has been for quite a while. Phil I know but I don't want it that way, that's OK for FireFox which is only a Navigator/Browser and it needs everything else to be attached to it in ways of plug-ins or JavaScript scripts, but SeaMonkey is a suit and as such it should integrate as much tools as the Internet user needs, at least that's the approach Mozilla has led me to believe. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Rufus wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. What number on about:memory are you looking at? I'm not, I'm looking at Windows Task Manager. If I have a chance I'll try about:memory and let you know. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ The hilarious thing about self-important self-righteous people is that they are so easily baited. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Massive RAM usage
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyjurj...@bellsouth.net wrote : GerardJan wrote: Libertarian Lilly wrote: Come to think of it, if SM is using about 41 megs of RAM per open tab, isn't that WAY excessive? good enough for me, i have 4Mbyte physical memory sincerely, Huh? 41megs 4Mbyte No, 41 megabytes per open tab. 12 tabs uses 440 megs, right? My calculator reports that 41 times 12 equals 492. But if GerardJan has (only) 4Mbytes of physical memory, how does he fit that 41 meg tab into it? Win 7 32-bit, 4Gb RAM, SM 2.9.1. 12 tabs open. 155,740 Kb of RAM used. Now you're trying to confuse me :) GerardJan wrote 4Mbytes. You write 4Gb Ram! 12 x 41 = 492 megs. But you write that 12 tabs use 155,740 Kb of RAM! Are you discussing the same case Ed? Gerard had to have mis-typed. No modern PC has anything less than 512 Mb to 1 Gb of RAM. My PC (one of five) has 4 GIGA-bytes of RAM. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
