Filter question

[Paul B. Gallagher]

I have four different accounts within one profile, but all junk is 
directed to a common Junk folder in the primary account.


One of my secondary accounts gets a steady diet of spam, and JMC is 
pretty well trained to recognize and filter it. However, I have JMC set 
/not/ to mark messages as read, so I can periodically scan through the 
Junk folder for false positives.


In this case, the spam is properly filtered and unmarked, so all is as 
it should be. Except for one peculiarity: when that account receives one 
message and it's spam, the account is left with no new messages, but the 
account name is highlighted anyway as if there were new messages. So I 
frequently find myself looking at all the subfolders in that account for 
a putative new message -- in vain.


Any idea how to correct this?

It seems to me that the flag to highlight the account name is set before 
the spam is filtered out, but I wish it were done afterward.


Thanks.

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Re: Is there planned or likely to be a 2.10.2?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
> Is there planned or likely to be a 2.10.2 bug fix release
> before the 2.11 which is now at the beta level?
> Is it at all likely that 2.11 will be more thoroughly tested,
> than 2.10 was, at least the version for 32 bit Windows 7 ?

I don't have a clue where this is coming from.

Our Security/Stability releases are NEVER planned in advance, we only
plan the real releases. Let alone expect us to know of an issue the day
of the stability release is out the door for us.

You haven't said a *specific* problem you are encountering, we are not
mind readers.

We test all our shipped code thoroughly, the fact remains that we may
miss an edge case, an issue that is not readily apparent, or even be
hurt by 3'rd party code issues that many users find vastly important.

We release these updates when we feel the strain/time invested in doing
a release (about 20 hours of human time just for SeaMonkey, NOT COUNTING
the quality assurance time we invest).

The issues that primarily convinced us to do a 2.10.1 release were all
in shared code, Firefox and Thunderbird code to be specific, we snuck in
a fix for a borderline issue that we had the patch in hand *just* as we
prepared for 2.10 and were unable to have testing on it in time to feel
confident in its uptake for that release, by now we did and decided to
take it along with the Gecko fixes.

If you have *specific* issues, file bugs, point us at them, or
troubleshoot with us, and we can see if we can reproduce and work on a fix.

This amount of caged trollism is unacceptable and I ask that you state
facts rather than goading remarks.

Thank You,
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Is there planned or likely to be a 2.10.2?

[Rostyslaw Lewyckyj]

Is there planned or likely to be a 2.10.2 bug fix release
before the 2.11 which is now at the beta level?
Is it at all likely that 2.11 will be more thoroughly tested,
than 2.10 was, at least the version for 32 bit Windows 7 ?
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Re: Flash update broke window resizing

[David E. Ross]

On 6/16/12 2:11 PM, Kent Briggs wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> I'm not seeing this.  However, it appears that the Flash presentations
>> that I tried all have fixed box-sizes.
> 
> Did you try the right-click Pop Out option directly on YouTube? Make 
> sure you have YouTube set for Flash, not HTML5.
> 

When I right-click, the pull-down context menu seems to indicate Flash,
not HTML5.  I selected Pop Out.  Then, when I resize my browser window,
the Flash presentation area also resizes.

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Re: Flash update broke window resizing

[Kent Briggs]

David E. Ross wrote:


I'm not seeing this.  However, it appears that the Flash presentations
that I tried all have fixed box-sizes.


Did you try the right-click Pop Out option directly on YouTube? Make 
sure you have YouTube set for Flash, not HTML5.


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Re: Problem saving emails in v2.10

[notme]

I just installed 2.10.1 and the problem is fixed. Thank you!

Jens Hatlak wrote:

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Since I upgraded SeaMonkey from v2.9.1 to v 2.10, I am unable to save
individual messages as .txt files.

When I try to do so, I get the message "Unable to save the message.
Please check your file name and try again later."

(...)

I hope this will be fixed in the next update!


It will (SM 2.10.1, ETA tomorrow).

HTH

Jens



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Please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.


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Re: I feel deprived

[Rufus]

Edward wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 6/15/2012 3:35 PM PT, Gerald Ross typed:


I see all the posts about problems and troubles with Seamonkey.  I am
using 2.0.14 and it does everything I need with no problems. It ain't
broke so I will keep it.


Ditto for me as well. One day, I will dump it. My extensions, plugins,
etc. still work. Yes, I know support and security issues but I will take
the risks.


Some users cannot migrate past 2.0.xx because of the CPU.  Debian's
version of SeaMonkey, Iceape, which is included with Debian 6 (Squeeze)
comes with version 2.0.11 and it is the last version to successfully run
on i586-class CPU's (e.g. AMD K6-2).



Yes - I'm stuck in the past with my G5 iMac, but that's ok by me as 
there are some features (function and interface) in the 1.x.x SM series 
that I find very useful and miss in the 2.x.x re-vamping.


Sitting out the 2.1 through 2.6 releases because of growing pains has 
worked out well for me, though I think I also skipped another one 
between 2.7 and 2.10 because of a *very* annoying interface bug which 
has since been fixed - still waiting for the fix for the Mac interface 
bug I wrote, targeted for 2.11...that one will be welcome!


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Re: Flash update broke window resizing

[David E. Ross]

On 6/16/12 11:34 AM, Kent Briggs wrote:
> I updated my Flash plug-in today (version shows 11.3.300.257) and 
> noticed that I can no longer resize windows that contain flash content 
> that expands to fill the window. I have my own app written in OpenLaszlo 
> that produces SWF files. When it's in a fixed size container it's ok but 
> when it's set as a percentage of page width and height, that's where the 
> problem occurs.
> 
> This only happens in SeaMonkey and FireFox, I'm not having the issue in 
> IE or Chrome. One place you see this is at YouTube. Load any video, 
> right click on it and select Popout, then try to resize the window.
> 

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 SeaMonkey/2.10

I'm not seeing this.  However, it appears that the Flash presentations
that I tried all have fixed box-sizes.


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bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
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Re: I feel deprived

[Edward]

Ant wrote:

On 6/15/2012 3:35 PM PT, Gerald Ross typed:


I see all the posts about problems and troubles with Seamonkey.  I am
using 2.0.14 and it does everything I need with no problems. It ain't
broke so I will keep it.


Ditto for me as well. One day, I will dump it. My extensions, plugins,
etc. still work. Yes, I know support and security issues but I will take
the risks.


Some users cannot migrate past 2.0.xx because of the CPU.  Debian's 
version of SeaMonkey, Iceape, which is included with Debian 6 (Squeeze) 
comes with version 2.0.11 and it is the last version to successfully run 
on i586-class CPU's (e.g. AMD K6-2).


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Re: Flash update broke window resizing

[Kent Briggs]

Kent Briggs wrote:

I updated my Flash plug-in today (version shows 11.3.300.257) and
noticed that I can no longer resize windows that contain flash content
that expands to fill the window.


I've since uninstalled Flash 11.3 and went back to Flash 11.2 and window 
resizing now works again. So I don't know if it's an Adobe bug or 
Mozilla bug or a combination of both.

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Flash update broke window resizing

[Kent Briggs]

I updated my Flash plug-in today (version shows 11.3.300.257) and 
noticed that I can no longer resize windows that contain flash content 
that expands to fill the window. I have my own app written in OpenLaszlo 
that produces SWF files. When it's in a fixed size container it's ok but 
when it's set as a percentage of page width and height, that's where the 
problem occurs.


This only happens in SeaMonkey and FireFox, I'm not having the issue in 
IE or Chrome. One place you see this is at YouTube. Load any video, 
right click on it and select Popout, then try to resize the window.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9

[Ken Rudolph]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Ken Rudolph schrieb:

Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me
(multiple problems with Flash & e-mail composer)?


The Flash problems are not caused by the SeaMonkey update, they will
happen in 2.9 as well if you update to the newer Flash version (Adobe is
working on fixing those).


Good to know.  Then I'll update again to SM 2.10 soon.  I just won't
download the Adobe Flash update.  All I can say is thank ghu for restore
points and the ability to go back in time.  Just deleting the latest
Flash update didn't solve the problem.


Just for completion's sake:  I let the SM 2.10 installation update run 
when prompted this morning.  None of the Flash problems re-occurred. I'm 
not going to allow any Adobe Flash updates (given the option) until I 
get an "all clear" on this group.  Which may mean never.


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Re: Seamonkey installation mystery

[A Williams]

David Lawler wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 5/10/2012 11:58 PM, David Lawler wrote:

This totally mystifies me. A week ago I installed SM 2.9.1, apparently
successfully, replacing (I thought) 1.1.19. I noticed right away my
computer ran slower. Finally, on Monday or Tuesday of this week, things
were so bad I had to give up and reboot.

So, imagine my surprise when, after rebooting, I was again running
1.1.19. I went through the process of again installing 2.9.1, again
apparently successfully. Then, again this (Thu) evening, my computer was
again tied in knots so bad I had to reboot. Again, SM 1.1.19 was running
after the reboot.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on? How does 1.1.19 survive the
installation of 1.9.1? (I actually used an intermediate step, making the
actual conversion from 1.1.19 to 2.X.X in SM 2.0.5, my old profile
imported ok, then upgrading to 2.9.1.)

Win XP3, up to date, 2.5 gb memory. With 1.1.19 running, I could go
weeks without rebooting. Something is odd here.

Dave


This is what will happen if you try to install the upgrade with USER and
not ADMINISTRATOR privileges (I just made the same mistake on my
multi-media computer yesterday). Is that what was going on? Are you sure
you had Administrator privileges?



Thanks everyone for your ideas. As near as I can tell, I was running as
Administrator.

A brief summary of what I did: 1) I uninstalled SM1 and installed SM2;
2) SM2 installed ok but did not migrate my profile; 3) after several
attempts and much research I decided to sleep on it; 4) I re-installed
SM1 as I had to check my email; 5) I re-installed SM2 (with SM1 still
installed); 6) SM2 installed ok and this time successfully migrated my
profile; 7) I uninstalled SM1 so I no longer have the odd boot problem;
SM2 works fine, except it seems to get itself tied up in knots pretty
quickly, requiring SM2 to be shut down and re-started, if not a full
re-boot.

Hope this is helpful to others.

DL



Newer Seamonkey 2.x releases no longer migrate 1.x profiles.  You need 
to migrate to one of the early 2.x releases (probably one of the 2.0.x 
set) and then move on to a current version.

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Re: I feel deprived

[A Williams]

Gerald Ross wrote:

I see all the posts about problems and troubles with Seamonkey. I am
using 2.0.14 and it does everything I need with no problems. It ain't
broke so I will keep it.


Current levels still support migration from 2.0.x levels so your only 
real disadvantage is the missing security patches.


The only problem I have with 2.9 (I normally wait a week before 
adopting) is that the Newsgroup function

"Click here to remove all expired articles"
ceased functioning a couple of levels back.

Bug reports https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727951 indicate 
that this has been fixed for Thunderbird 13.0 and apparently SM 2.10.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9

[Daniel]

Ken Rudolph wrote:




Is there any way to avoid an automatic update to SM 2.10?  I think that
in the past it was updated without my explicit permission.  I know that
the Flash update does ask me before it does anything.  I'm not sure why
I should do any more updating at all.  Things are working fine now, why
tempt fate?



Ken, if you want to stop SM 2.9 auto-updating to 2.10, have a look at 
Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation and de-select "Allow 
websites.." and "Automatically check..."


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Re: hbo site problems

[Daniel]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/14/12 7:07 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

I seem to be unable to load http://www.hbogo.com in SeaMonkey. All I get
is a spinning logo and the site never loads.  I'm having no problem
accessing that site using Google Chrome.  For that matter, even
http://www.hbo.com just shows a white screen in SM, but loads in Chrome
(at least on my computer...last week I had no problems).  Anybody else
having this problem?  Any ideas how to make it work in SM?

I'm running SM 2.10 on Win-7 Ult.  I did an automatic install of a new
version of Shockwave Flash this morning...it's listed in Enabled plugins
as File: NPSWF32_3_300_257.DLL, Version: 11.3.300.257, Shockwave Flash
11.3 r300 .  Could that be a problem?



Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 SeaMonkey/2.10

I see this problem at  while
running SeaMonkey in Safe Mode.  I got a white page with no content.
When I selected [View] on the menu bar, [Source] was disabled.  No
errors, warnings, or messages appeared in the Error Console.

It might have something to do with the URI pointing to a Flash file
instead of an HTML file.  All other Web pages containing Flash that I
visited seem to be okay, but they are HTML or XHTML files with embedded
Flash.

When I tried , the return
header indicated "Content-Type: application/x-shockwave-flash".  When I
tested my Flash installation at
, there were no
"Content-Type" lines in the return headers for three Flash files.  If
this is working in non-Gecko browsers, the problem might be in a failure
of Gecko to handle "Content-Type: application/x-shockwave-flash".



Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 
SeaMonkey/2.10


When I clicked on the Dddwrapper page, I got one error in the Error 
Console:-

Timestamp: 16/06/12 20:36:23
Error: start is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. 
Check the nsILivemarkService interface.

Source File: resource:///components/nsLivemarkService.js
Line: 204

When I then went to the adobe check site, I got about one hundred 
errors, although it correctly identified I had 10,0,22,87 installed.


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Re: I feel deprived

[Gabriel]

On 16/06/12 00.35, Gerald Ross ha scritto:

I see all the posts about problems and troubles with Seamonkey.  I am
using 2.0.14 and it does everything I need with no problems.  It ain't
broke so I will keep it.


Don't :)
I'm using SM all day long, every day, not only the stable release but 
now the beta and it works very well for me!
It seldom crashes (sometimes the Flash plug-in does, but I only need to 
reload the single page), I always have at least 15 tabs open, there are 
10 IMAP accounts + 2 newsgroup servers checking messages.

So, my experience is positive with SM.

GAbriel

ps: I'm on OSX :)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.9

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Robert Kaiser wrote:


Ken Rudolph schrieb:

Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me
(multiple problems with Flash & e-mail composer)?


The Flash problems are not caused by the SeaMonkey update, they will
happen in 2.9 as well if you update to the newer Flash version (Adobe is
working on fixing those).


I can play videos normally, but I'm having trouble with the New York 
Times KenKen game 
. Is that due to 
the flash issue you mention?


At the hardest level (8x8), I often find that when I enter a number in a 
cell, the game remains focused on the intended target cell but puts my 
number in a completely different cell nearby. It's never happened 
before, and I just accepted the Flash update before I saw this thread.


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