Re: Some advice ?

2012-08-17 Thread Ed Mullen

DoctorBill wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am running Seamonkey 2.7.
My Yahoo.mail refuses to retain the Theme I choose.
Tried a Google Search and found many, many people have this
same problem, so it is not confined only to SeaMonkey.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to what to do ?

Here it comes !

DoctorBill

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If Gravity is not a force,
then there are only 'THREE forces of Nature'
and they are of about the same magnitude...


The usual advice ...

Clear cookies and allow cookies from yahooo.



I hate messing about with the Cookies !
Every time I clear the cookies, bad things happen.

I have NoScripts 2.5 and allowed all of the Yahoo Mail site to load -
to no avail.

I think this problem stems from YahooMail's site, not mine, since
so many web links ask about this same thing. PITA.

In any case, where are the cookies stored. This SM 2.7 doesn't seem to
do what all the older ones did with cookies and I knew a little bit
about the older versions. Now I am lost.

Is there a way to figure out WHICH cookie controls the 'Theme' ?
Assuming I can find it !

I APPRECIATE THE HELP !

DoctorBill



More Googling found this reply about the Theme retention.

http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/914606

Theme is retained in IE but not Firefox.
Is this guy's answer related to (or translatable to) SeaMonkey 2.7 in
any way ?

DoctorBill




Yes, he's basically saying Allow Yahoo to set cookies and set Firefox
to not delete them when you close the browser. Applies to SM too.




As far as I can see, I am allowing cookies to be set by any site !

I sent Yahoo Help this question and they actually answered !
Here is their answer - go to this site:
http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contentid=SLN3223actp=supportlocale=en_USy=PROD_MAIL_MLi=3wAqtzjiM3o76cfDf7u0Cg==


OMGjust to change THEMES ?!

Is this called poor programming or what ?

DoctorBill




But ... it doesn't say anything about themes!

I have a Yahoo email but never use it.  For the heck of it I logged in 
(using SeaMonkey), changes the theme, logged out.  When I logged back in 
the theme change had stuck.


Yahoo sets a lot of cookies.  I deleted them all, logged back in and the 
theme was still there.


Just for yucks I logged in using Firefox, where I wipe cookies when  the 
program exits.  Theme still set.


Not sure what to say at this point.

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Re: Some advice ?

2012-08-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:


I have a Yahoo email but never use it. For the heck of it I logged
in (using SeaMonkey), changes the theme, logged out. When I logged
back in the theme change had stuck.

Yahoo sets a lot of cookies. I deleted them all, logged back in and
the theme was still there.

Just for yucks I logged in using Firefox, where I wipe cookies when
the program exits. Theme still set.

Not sure what to say at this point.


If it remembers your settings without cookies, it must be saving them in 
your profile on its own computer. In contrast, a site like YouTube 
remembers my settings until I clear its cookies (including flash 
cookies), then treats me like a stranger.


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Re: Some advice ?

2012-08-17 Thread Ed Mullen

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I have a Yahoo email but never use it. For the heck of it I logged
in (using SeaMonkey), changes the theme, logged out. When I logged
back in the theme change had stuck.

Yahoo sets a lot of cookies. I deleted them all, logged back in and
the theme was still there.

Just for yucks I logged in using Firefox, where I wipe cookies when
the program exits. Theme still set.

Not sure what to say at this point.


If it remembers your settings without cookies, it must be saving them in
your profile on its own computer. In contrast, a site like YouTube
remembers my settings until I clear its cookies (including flash
cookies), then treats me like a stranger.



I'm reasonably sure it is server side.  Hmm, although, I'll go use 
CCleaner to delete all the Flash cookes too and see what happens.


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two. - Erich Fromm

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Re: Some advice ?

2012-08-17 Thread Ed Mullen

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I have a Yahoo email but never use it. For the heck of it I logged
in (using SeaMonkey), changes the theme, logged out. When I logged
back in the theme change had stuck.

Yahoo sets a lot of cookies. I deleted them all, logged back in and
the theme was still there.

Just for yucks I logged in using Firefox, where I wipe cookies when
the program exits. Theme still set.

Not sure what to say at this point.


If it remembers your settings without cookies, it must be saving them in
your profile on its own computer. In contrast, a site like YouTube
remembers my settings until I clear its cookies (including flash
cookies), then treats me like a stranger.



I'm reasonably sure it is server side.  Hmm, although, I'll go use
CCleaner to delete all the Flash cookes too and see what happens.



FF, cookies deleted upon exit ... mail.yahoo.com ... same result ... I 
log in and the theme preference sticks.


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[triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed

2012-08-17 Thread Philip Chee
Anyone else experience this problem?

Phil

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oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
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Re: Some advice ?

2012-08-17 Thread DoctorBill

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am running Seamonkey 2.7.
My Yahoo.mail refuses to retain the Theme I choose.
Tried a Google Search and found many, many people have this
same problem, so it is not confined only to SeaMonkey.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to what to do ?

Here it comes !

DoctorBill

--

If Gravity is not a force,
then there are only 'THREE forces of Nature'
and they are of about the same magnitude...


The usual advice ...

Clear cookies and allow cookies from yahooo.



I hate messing about with the Cookies !
Every time I clear the cookies, bad things happen.

I have NoScripts 2.5 and allowed all of the Yahoo Mail site to load -
to no avail.

I think this problem stems from YahooMail's site, not mine, since
so many web links ask about this same thing. PITA.

In any case, where are the cookies stored. This SM 2.7 doesn't seem to
do what all the older ones did with cookies and I knew a little bit
about the older versions. Now I am lost.

Is there a way to figure out WHICH cookie controls the 'Theme' ?
Assuming I can find it !

I APPRECIATE THE HELP !

DoctorBill



More Googling found this reply about the Theme retention.

http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/914606

Theme is retained in IE but not Firefox.
Is this guy's answer related to (or translatable to) SeaMonkey 2.7 in
any way ?

DoctorBill




Yes, he's basically saying Allow Yahoo to set cookies and set Firefox
to not delete them when you close the browser. Applies to SM too.




As far as I can see, I am allowing cookies to be set by any site !

I sent Yahoo Help this question and they actually answered !
Here is their answer - go to this site:
http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contentid=SLN3223actp=supportlocale=en_USy=PROD_MAIL_MLi=3wAqtzjiM3o76cfDf7u0Cg==



OMGjust to change THEMES ?!

Is this called poor programming or what ?

DoctorBill




But ... it doesn't say anything about themes!

I have a Yahoo email but never use it. For the heck of it I logged in
(using SeaMonkey), changes the theme, logged out. When I logged back in
the theme change had stuck.

Yahoo sets a lot of cookies. I deleted them all, logged back in and the
theme was still there.

Just for yucks I logged in using Firefox, where I wipe cookies when the
program exits. Theme still set.

Not sure what to say at this point.



OK...something in your SM (2.7?) is set differently than in mine.

Any idea what setting in SM would cause that effect ?

I have NoScript running (but allowing everything) and AdBlock Plus and
PrefBar.

DoctorBill



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Re: Some advice ?

2012-08-17 Thread DoctorBill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I have a Yahoo email but never use it. For the heck of it I logged
in (using SeaMonkey), changes the theme, logged out. When I logged
back in the theme change had stuck.

Yahoo sets a lot of cookies. I deleted them all, logged back in and
the theme was still there.

Just for yucks I logged in using Firefox, where I wipe cookies when
the program exits. Theme still set.

Not sure what to say at this point.


If it remembers your settings without cookies, it must be saving them in
your profile on its own computer. In contrast, a site like YouTube
remembers my settings until I clear its cookies (including flash
cookies), then treats me like a stranger.



Here is how bad it is - I can log into Yahoo Mail (default black comes up).
I change to green theme.
Click reload and it goes back to default black !

If I leave YM (close the tab) but stay in SM and then go back it loses 
the green theme back to default black.


DoctorBill


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