Re: Are SeaMonkey always late with their updates after Firefox's updates?

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 29/08/2012 02:21, Ant told the world:
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> 

First: place your query INSIDE the message, not just in the header.

Second: Yeah, SM usually lags a few hours after Firefox. I don't know
the exact reasons, but some guesses are:

1. Seamonkey has no paid staff. So, there might not be anyone available
to do the commits at the precise time Firefox is released -- people have
their day jobs, after all.

2. Also, for the same reason (less people/time available) it might take
a bit longer to finish the release process.

3. Seamonkey does not have as much of a serverfarm as Firefox for
compiling the binaries. True, SM offers fewer languages; but I think
that, on average, FF has more computing power per binary available than
SM. And SM is also a more complex program -- it has a mail reader, after
all. Therefore, I think total compile time (all versions, all languages)
for SM is somewhat longer than for Firefox.

4. Firefox is the main app, Seamonkey is the child project. It wouldn't
be very diplomatic if SM "jumped the gun" and released BEFORE Firefox.
TOGETHER is fine, but BEFORE might annoy people at Mozilla. So the SM
guys can't just do it the night before, because they don't know
*exactly* when Firefox will hit the web.

By the way, Seamonkey 2.12 is available now. I'm using it already.

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Are SeaMonkey always late with their updates after Firefox's updates?

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sidebarOverlay.js:695

[_HH_]

How do I stop this script: 
chrome://communicator/content/sidebar/sidebarOverlay.js:695

Uninstalled seamonkey 2.11 twice (rebooted after) still get script running.

Didnt see anything here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=sidebaroverlay.js

any help is appreciated ...

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Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode

[Chris Ilias]

On 12-08-28 8:45 AM, einphasen...@googlemail.com wrote:

hello

i need help Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode. I can't 
find the problem.
Would be nice if anyone can help me.

Absturz-ID: bp-51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827


Looking at the crash report and corresponding bug report, there's a lot 
of speculation that the crash is caused by anti-virus software, namely 
ESET. Do you have SeaMonkey set to check mail at startup?


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Re: Open all in tabs, lose focus?

[Hank]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Hank wrote:


Try disabling Shockwave Flash in Seamonkey add ons. I started seeing
this behavior on Saturday 8/25 and just discovered that Flash was
updated on 8/25. I disabled the add on and the problem went away.


Yep, that did it, and reenabling reinstated the issue.

Thanks for the tip. How on earth'dja think of it?



You're welcome.
I knew something had changed and there were no Windows updates recently.
I remembered that Adobe had updated something on Saturday, so I disabled 
the common plugins one at a time until it worked.

Let's hope the next Flash update corrects the problem.

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Re: Open all in tabs, lose focus?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Hank wrote:


Try disabling Shockwave Flash in Seamonkey add ons. I started seeing
this behavior on Saturday 8/25 and just discovered that Flash was
updated on 8/25. I disabled the add on and the problem went away.


Yep, that did it, and reenabling reinstated the issue.

Thanks for the tip. How on earth'dja think of it?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode

[Ed Mullen]

einphasen...@googlemail.com wrote:

Am Dienstag, 28. August 2012 17:13:37 UTC+2 schrieb Ed Mullen:

einphasen...@googlemail.com wrote:


hello



i need help Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode. I can't 
find the problem.



Would be nice if anyone can help me.



Absturz-ID: bp-51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827



https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827


1.  Try to create a new profile with Profile Manager.

2.  If no go, download the latest, uninstall SM and reinstall it.


i can't create a new profile because SM doesnt start.
I already deinstalled SM with deleting old profiles and reinstalled the newest 
version.
I also updated drivers, java, flash and windows.
But all that doesnt solve the problem.



Did SM /ever/ work on the system in question?

If so, what changed before it started crashing?

Windows version?

More details would be helpful.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode

[einphasenboi]

Am Dienstag, 28. August 2012 17:13:37 UTC+2 schrieb Ed Mullen:
> einphasen...@googlemail.com wrote:
> 
> > hello
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> > i need help Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode. I 
> > can't find the problem.
> 
> > Would be nice if anyone can help me.
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> > Absturz-ID: bp-51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827
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> > https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827
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> 1.  Try to create a new profile with Profile Manager.
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> 2.  If no go, download the latest, uninstall SM and reinstall it.
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> -- 
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> Ed Mullen
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> http://edmullen.net/
> 
> What happened to the first 6 ups?





i can't create a new profile because SM doesnt start.
I already deinstalled SM with deleting old profiles and reinstalled the newest 
version.
I also updated drivers, java, flash and windows.
But all that doesnt solve the problem.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode

[Ed Mullen]

einphasen...@googlemail.com wrote:

hello

i need help Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode. I can't 
find the problem.
Would be nice if anyone can help me.

Absturz-ID: bp-51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827



1.  Try to create a new profile with Profile Manager.

2.  If no go, download the latest, uninstall SM and reinstall it.



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What happened to the first 6 ups?
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Re: In Box Messages Show up Blank

[Ed Mullen]

TMitchell wrote:

Daniel wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

The messages in my In Box suddenly started opening up totally blank.
Messages in all other mail folders open normally.

Any ideas?


Hasn't happened to me, but I think someone here a couple of days ago
said they closed SeaMonkey, deleted inbox.msf, restarted SeaMonkey and
all was o.k. when a new inbox.msf was created.

Worth a try, maybe.


I deleted the "inbox.msf" file, and now no mail messages (headers or
anything at all) appear in the Inbox.  Worse, the deleted file did not
show up in the Recycle Bin, so I could not restore it.

Any other ideas anyone?


Do you have a profile backup?  You could restore from that.

But first try opening SM Mail, right-click the Inbox folder, click 
Properties, click Repair Folder.  That's essentially the same as 
deleting the .msf file but I'd try it and let SM rebuild the index for you.


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Re: Open all in tabs, lose focus?

[Hank]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


WLS wrote:


Done the standard "Restart with Add-ons Disabled" to see if an extension
is causing the problem?


Will try, I rather doubt it... Here's what I have:

AdBlock Plus 2.1.2
Chatzilla 0.9.88.2
DOM Inspector 2.0.12
JavaScript Debugger 0.9.89
Russian Hunspell spellchecking dictionary 1.0.20120501

Plugins don't count, right?


OK, tried starting in safe mode, didn't make any changes permanent, but
the issue persisted.

Any other thoughts?



Try disabling Shockwave Flash in Seamonkey add ons.  I started seeing 
this behavior on Saturday 8/25 and just discovered that Flash was 
updated on 8/25.  I disabled the add on and the problem went away.


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Re: Open all in tabs, lose focus?

[WLS]

On 08/28/2012 01:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


WLS wrote:


Done the standard "Restart with Add-ons Disabled" to see if an extension
is causing the problem?


Will try, I rather doubt it... Here's what I have:

AdBlock Plus 2.1.2
Chatzilla 0.9.88.2
DOM Inspector 2.0.12
JavaScript Debugger 0.9.89
Russian Hunspell spellchecking dictionary 1.0.20120501

Plugins don't count, right?


OK, tried starting in safe mode, didn't make any changes permanent, but
the issue persisted.

Any other thoughts?



None, other than trying a new profile.

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Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode

[einphasenboi]

hello

i need help Seamonkey 2.11 always crashes on startup even in safe mode. I can't 
find the problem.
Would be nice if anyone can help me.

Absturz-ID: bp-51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/51fde24c-4c4c-491c-b9e2-b9dc52120827

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Re: In Box Messages Show up Blank

[TMitchell]

Daniel wrote:

TMitchell wrote:

The messages in my In Box suddenly started opening up totally blank.
Messages in all other mail folders open normally.

Any ideas?


Hasn't happened to me, but I think someone here a couple of days ago
said they closed SeaMonkey, deleted inbox.msf, restarted SeaMonkey and
all was o.k. when a new inbox.msf was created.

Worth a try, maybe.

I deleted the "inbox.msf" file, and now no mail messages (headers or 
anything at all) appear in the Inbox.  Worse, the deleted file did not 
show up in the Recycle Bin, so I could not restore it.


Any other ideas anyone?
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Re: In Box Messages Show up Blank

[Daniel]

TMitchell wrote:

The messages in my In Box suddenly started opening up totally blank.
Messages in all other mail folders open normally.

Any ideas?


Hasn't happened to me, but I think someone here a couple of days ago 
said they closed SeaMonkey, deleted inbox.msf, restarted SeaMonkey and 
all was o.k. when a new inbox.msf was created.


Worth a try, maybe.

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