Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jane Galt wrote:


You know what's odd? I restarted it with add ons disabled, then
opened the add ons window and a lot of them are still there.


They're still there because they're still installed. Look carefully to 
see if they're disabled or not.



I'd also like to find out what's causing it to flip into the open
bookmarks page, when I visit some sites.


Known issue with Flash, discussed here many times in the past couple of 
months. There's even a workaround, posted many times.


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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Rufus   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> Rufus   wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
 WaltS   wrote :

> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
>> have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>
>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>
>
> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
>
> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice,
> otherwise it IS HARD to help.
>

 
http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den
 /post ing.denver.backpage.com/?
 u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=
4428
 &superRegion=Denver

>>>
>>> ...looks like you actually have to write and post an ad before they 
will
>>> verify you.  Got another example?
>>>
>>
>> NO, they all do that.
>>
> 
> ...ok.  So...I entered a partial fake ad, and I can see the Captcha 
there.
> 
> You probably have some Pref not set right, as others have suggested.
> 

You know what's odd? I restarted it with add ons disabled, then opened the 
add ons window and a lot of them are still there.

What prefs could be doing this?

I'd also like to find out what's causing it to flip into the open bookmarks 
page, when I visit some sites.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Rufus]

Jane Galt wrote:

Rufus   wrote :


Jane Galt wrote:

WaltS   wrote :


On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!



An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?

A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice,
otherwise it IS HARD to help.



http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den
/post ing.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver



...looks like you actually have to write and post an ad before they will
verify you.  Got another example?



NO, they all do that.



...ok.  So...I entered a partial fake ad, and I can see the Captcha there.

You probably have some Pref not set right, as others have suggested.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Just did the disable thing with all the add ons and restarted. Still cant see 
the Captcha at the backpage site when I try to place an ad.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Philip TAYLOR   wrote :

> 
> 
> Jane Galt wrote:
> 
>> I told you. This hasnt worked since sometime in version 2 of SM and I'm
>> getting pretty sick of filling out an entire form page, then the captcha
>> isn't there and I have to go to Internet Explorer and re-enter it all.
> 
> In general, if the entire world isn't complaining that Seamonkey can
> no longer handle Captchas, it is pretty safe to assume that Seamonkey
> /qua/ Seamonkey is not at fault and that your own customisation
> (intentional or otherwise) may well be to blame.
> 
> Try safe mode, try a clean profile, try disabling everything;
> almost certainly one or more of these will work and disclose
> the root cause of your problem.
> 
> Philip Taylor
> 

Could it be my 64 bit OS?

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Philip TAYLOR   wrote :

> With that many plugs-in, I would try safe mode
> and see if that helps.

Just did, didn't help. 

Never knew about it before though. Thanks. Handy.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Rufus   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> WaltS   wrote :
>>
>>> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
 I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
 have to open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

 WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!

>>>
>>> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
>>>
>>> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice,
>>> otherwise it IS HARD to help.
>>>
>>
>> http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den
>> /post ing.denver.backpage.com/?
>> u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
>> &superRegion=Denver
>>
> 
> ...looks like you actually have to write and post an ad before they will
> verify you.  Got another example?
> 

NO, they all do that.
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[WaltS]

Jim Taylor wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> WaltS   wrote :
>>
>>> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
 I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I
 have to
 open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

 WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!

>>>
>>> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
>>>
>>> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise
>>> it IS HARD to help.
>>>
>>
>> http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
>>
>> ing.denver.backpage.com/?
>> u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
>> &superRegion=Denver
>>
> 
> I have no problem seeing the Captcha at Step 2 of that link (you don't
> need a login to get to step 2, you just have to put some data in the
> required fields at step 1).
> 
> Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SeaMonkey 2.13.2
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026
> Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2
> 
> The problem is not with SeaMonkey, it is something with your
> configuration or an addon.  Make sure "load all images" is enabled and
> try with all addons disabled - Help-Restart with Add-ons Disabled.
> 

Yes, I also see the Captcha in Step 2 with "Load all images" selected in
Privacy and Security > Images preferences. With "Only load images that
come from the originating server" selected I see no Captcha.

JavaScript also needs to be enabled.

HTH

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Dennis]

Jim Taylor wrote:
> Jane Galt wrote:
>> WaltS   wrote :
>>
>>> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
 I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
 open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

 WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!

>>>
>>> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
>>>
>>> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise
>>> it IS HARD to help.
>>>
>>
>> http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
>> ing.denver.backpage.com/?
>> u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
>> &superRegion=Denver
>>
> 
> I have no problem seeing the Captcha at Step 2 of that link (you don't 
> need a login to get to step 2, you just have to put some data in the 
> required fields at step 1).
> 
> Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SeaMonkey 2.13.2
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) 
> Gecko/20121026 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2
> 
> The problem is not with SeaMonkey, it is something with your 
> configuration or an addon.  Make sure "load all images" is enabled and 
> try with all addons disabled - Help-Restart with Add-ons Disabled.
> 

Yep, works for me too.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121025
Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jim Taylor]

Jane Galt wrote:

WaltS   wrote :


On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!



An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?

A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise
it IS HARD to help.



http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
ing.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver



I have no problem seeing the Captcha at Step 2 of that link (you don't 
need a login to get to step 2, you just have to put some data in the 
required fields at step 1).


Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SeaMonkey 2.13.2
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) 
Gecko/20121026 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2


The problem is not with SeaMonkey, it is something with your 
configuration or an addon.  Make sure "load all images" is enabled and 
try with all addons disabled - Help-Restart with Add-ons Disabled.


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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Rufus]

Jane Galt wrote:

WaltS   wrote :


On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!



An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?

A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise
it IS HARD to help.



http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
ing.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver



...looks like you actually have to write and post an ad before they will 
verify you.  Got another example?


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Re: Seamonke won't open doc. attachments.

[NoOp]

On 11/11/2012 05:42 AM, Bernard Mercier wrote:
> Le 10/11/2012, NoOp a supposé :
>> On 11/09/2012 02:13 PM, Bernard Mercier wrote:
>>> Le 7/11/2012, gfagan...@gmail.com a supposé :
  Even when I chose 'Open' it asks where to save them. OS is Puppyt Linux. 
>>> Hello fellow puppy linux user.
>>> What do you use? OpenOffice? LibrOffice? Abiword?
>>> In the preferences of SeaMonkey, helper applications, you have to configure
>>> the one you use.
>>> For OpenOffice/LibrOffice swriter, for AbiWord abiword
>>> 
> 
>> If you are using the standard version of LibreOffice (non-distro), the
>> plugin is included in the .deb & rpm install:
> 
>> /opt/libreoffice3.6/program/libnpsoplugin.so
> 
>> In that case, open LO: Tools|Options|Internet|Browser Plug-in: Display
>> documents in browser
> 
>> For Ubuntu/Debian distro versions install 'mozilla-libreoffice' which
>> installs the same plugin:
> 
>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/mozilla-libreoffice/filelist
>> /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libnpsoplugin.so
>> /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/nsplugin
>> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpsoplugin.so
> Thanks for highlighting the plugin way, but I don't know if it is this what 
> the
> OP has in mind.
> I have some problems with the concept to use a browser as displaying vehicle.
> To see a pdf document referenced in a link, the helper application I use is

+1 with all documents (pdf or otherwise) I turn off/remove any related
plugin. However, the plugin is there if the OP (who's emails I do not
see) wishes to use/try.

> epdfview.

Just don't try to fill out forms and expect them to be readable by other
readers (Acroread)...

> I can read then and eventually save a copy.
> 

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[WaltS]

Jane Galt wrote:
> WaltS   wrote :
> 
>> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
>>> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>>
>>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>>
>>
>> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
>>
>> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise 
>> it IS HARD to help.
>>
> 
> http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
> ing.denver.backpage.com/?
> u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
> &superRegion=Denver
> 

I see no Captcha at that link, but it is just the first step of four in
the procedure. It also requires you to log into an account which I don't
have, so can't proceed any further.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Philip TAYLOR]

Jane Galt wrote:


I told you. This hasnt worked since sometime in version 2 of SM and I'm
getting pretty sick of filling out an entire form page, then the captcha
isn't there and I have to go to Internet Explorer and re-enter it all.


In general, if the entire world isn't complaining that Seamonkey can
no longer handle Captchas, it is pretty safe to assume that Seamonkey
/qua/ Seamonkey is not at fault and that your own customisation
(intentional or otherwise) may well be to blame.

Try safe mode, try a clean profile, try disabling everything;
almost certainly one or more of these will work and disclose
the root cause of your problem.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Ray_Net   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote, On 12/11/2012 18:29:
>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
>> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>
>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>
> Is this site not working ? http://www.hellocaptcha.com/

Yeah that one works, but only about 10% of actual captcha sites show up for 
me in SM.

> WHAT IS *YOUR* PROBLEM ?

I told you. This hasnt worked since sometime in version 2 of SM and I'm 
getting pretty sick of filling out an entire form page, then the captcha 
isn't there and I have to go to Internet Explorer and re-enter it all.

 

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Philip TAYLOR]

With that many plugs-in, I would try safe mode
and see if that helps.

Philip Taylor
Jane Galt wrote:
> There are a ton of plugins, how to I get them all in text form to list
> here? Oh wait... copied the whole page:
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Philip TAYLOR   wrote :

> How can we know, if you do not cite URLs, Seamonkey
> version, platform, plugs-in, adds-on, and so on ?
> 
> Philip Taylor
> Jane Galt wrote:> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on 
> most sites! Then I have to
> > open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
> >
> > WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
> 

SM 2.13.2
Win 7 Home Premium

The latest:

http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/po
sting.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver

There are a ton of plugins, how to I get them all in text form to list 
here? Oh wait... copied the whole page:



Enabled plugins
Find more information about browser plugins at mozilla.org.
Find updates for installed plugins at mozilla.com/plugincheck.
Help for installing plugins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org.
Shockwave Flash

File: NPSWF32_11_4_402_287.dll
Version: 11.4.402.287
Shockwave Flash 11.4 r402

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
application/x-shockwave-flash   Adobe Flash movie   swf
application/futuresplashFutureSplash movie  spl
Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U37

File: npjp2.dll
Version: 6.0.370.6
Next Generation Java Plug-in 1.6.0_37 for Mozilla browsers

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
application/x-java-applet   Java Applet 
application/x-java-bean JavaBeans   
application/x-java-vm   
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1 
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1   
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1   
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1 
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2   
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2 
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3 
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3   
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2 
application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2   
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3   
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3 
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2 
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2   
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1 
application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1   
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1 
application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1   
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4   
application/x-java-bean;version=1.4 
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application/x-java-bean;version=1.5 
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application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.6.0_37
application/x-java-vm-npruntime 
Java Deployment Toolkit 6.0.370.6

File: npdeployJava1.dll
Version: 6.0.370.6
NPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
application/java-deployment-toolkit 
Google Update

File: npGoogleUpdate3.dll
Version: 1.3.21.123
Google Update

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
application/x-vnd.google.update3webcontrol.3
application/x-vnd.google.oneclickctrl.9 
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File: nprpchromebrowserrecordext.dll
Version: 15.0.6.14
RealNetworks(tm) RealPlayer Chrome Background Extension Plug-In

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
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File: nprphtml5videoshim.dll
Version: 15.0.6.14
RealPlayer(tm) HTML5VideoShim Plug-In

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
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QuickTime Plug-in 7.7.2

File: npqtplugin7.dll
Version: 7.7.2.0
The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia 
content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

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image/jpeg2000  JPEG2000 image  jp2
image/jpeg2000-imageJPEG2000 image  jp2
image/x-jpeg2000-image  JPEG2000 image  jp2
QuickTime Plug-in 7.7.2

File: npqtplugin6.dll
Version: 7.7.2.0
The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia 
content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

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video/x-m4v Video   m4v
image/x-macpaintMacPaint image  pntg,pnt,mac
image/pict  PICT image  pict,pic,pct
image/x-pictPICT image  pict,pic,pct
image/png   PNG image   png

Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

Michael Gordon   wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
>> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>
>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>
> 
> Check your preferences, you could have limited how images are displayed, 
> blocked "third party images", etc.

Set to load all images, as many times as...

> The "captcha" is an image created by the server you connect with for the 
> web page.  Some servers you connect to with a captcha are themselves 
> third party servers, and the captcha image is created by another server 
> creating random images.
> 
> Michael G
> 

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Philip TAYLOR]

Jane Galt wrote:


http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
ing.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver


I see no Captcha in any browser.
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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

WaltS   wrote :

> On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
>> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>>
>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
>>
> 
> An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?
> 
> A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise 
> it IS HARD to help.
> 

http://posting.denver.backpage.com/online/classifieds/PostAdPPI.html/den/post
ing.denver.backpage.com/?
u=den&serverName=posting.denver.backpage.com§ion=4378&category=4428
&superRegion=Denver

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Ray_Net]

Jane Galt wrote, On 12/11/2012 18:29:

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!


Is this site not working ? http://www.hellocaptcha.com/
WHAT IS *YOUR* PROBLEM ?
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Re: Suppress newly introduced e-mail pop-up

[Bill Davidsen]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:05:21 +0100, Jens Hatlak wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Still getting an obscuring pop-up, Jens; not as intrusive
as the earlier one (one entry instead of many) but still
annoying and interferes with functionality of e-mail client.


Hmm, so the pref I told you only controls the extra preview text. AFAICS
there is no pref for disabling the popup altogether. Maybe it can be
hidden using CSS, but I wouldn't bet on it. Probably would need a code
change then.

Greetings,

Jens


The minimal popup (without the preview text) only shows if the folder
pane isn't wide enough to show the full name of the folder currently
hovered over. So to disable that you need to drag the splitter to the
right until the popup stops appearing.

In many cases that's WAY wider than needed. My solution, after killing preview 
and just getting the full name, is "don't hover the pointer over the name in the 
folder selector!"



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Re: Still not informed of updates

[Bill Davidsen]

Craig wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Craig, I see you are using Linux x86_64. The SeaMonkey Council does not
produce a Linux 64bit releaseyet.

They do, eventually, provide a "contributed" version, but this could
take a couple of days extra. I believe, in the future, they will provide
an "approved" versioneventually!

Keep checking.


I am, however, using a 32-bit version of 2.12.1. Should that not check for a
newer 32-bit version?

That depends on if it is one you downloaded and installed from Mozilla or if 
it's a package with your distribution. Fedora usually gets the package in 
testing quickly, then in production about ten days later. Your distribution 
almost certainly has a policy, which might not be the same.


Re Linux x86_64:
1 - there wad no 64 bit release
2 - I asked and was told it was due to lack of server power to build it
3 - after i (and others) offered server hours or contributions, we were told
that new server power was coming.
4 - I asked how they could have server power to build for beta and not for
release
5 - the x86_64 is now not in the beta builds or release

Draw what conclusions you will, I don't really want to keep an entire 32 bit 
environment for one program, so I use the 64 bit version.


Don't know what the Windows version does, the Linux versions all hemorage 
memory, this one is virt 1.2GB, resident 188MB, after 28 hours up.


Hope some part of this broad response hits your problem.


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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Rufus]

Jane Galt wrote:

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!



Works for me.  Never had this problem.

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[David E. Ross]

On 11/12/12 9:29 AM, Jane Galt wrote:
> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to 
> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
> 
> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
> 

I often have this problem.  It is caused by the fact that my preferences
are set to "Only load images that come from the originating server".

I have the PrefBar extension installed, and I can control this
preference from PrefBar's tool bar.  I change it to "Load all images".
Sometimes, I can see a link to fetch a new CAPTCHA; otherwise, I merely
reload the Web page.

The only problem is remembering to restore my prior preference for "Only
load images that come from the originating server".

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Michael Gordon]

Jane Galt wrote:

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!



Check your preferences, you could have limited how images are displayed, 
blocked "third party images", etc.


The "captcha" is an image created by the server you connect with for the 
web page.  Some servers you connect to with a captcha are themselves 
third party servers, and the captcha image is created by another server 
creating random images.


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Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?

[Rufus]

Ant wrote:

On 11/11/2012 10:40 PM PT, Rufus typed:

 > There are some standing really annoying interface and QA type bugs that

aren't problems for competitors that are problems for SM.  Things like
that should be prioritized and fixed first in order to address/enhance
UE concerns, *if* the team is actually serious about being
"competitive".  Sometimes I wonder...


Yeah. And we need to vote for those issues in its Bugzilla to prioritize
them. :(


I already did (one man, one vote; right?), for one of the most annoying 
ones - that SM Mac doesn't directly open hyperlinks from documents or 
Alias without manually opening SM first...in fact, the team even 
targeted a fix.  Seemed like they had a really good handle on it; 
something to do with Profile Manager.


Well, they are now two maybe three releases past their own target and 
it's still only partially fixed and there's been no more traffic about 
it other than updating the bug title.  Bug 724293.


Leaves me wondering...

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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[WaltS]

On 11/12/2012 12:29 PM, Jane Galt wrote:

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!



An extension conflict? A preference incorrectly set?

A link to a page where it doesn't show for you would be nice, otherwise 
it IS HARD to help.


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Re: Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Philip TAYLOR]

How can we know, if you do not cite URLs, Seamonkey
version, platform, plugs-in, adds-on, and so on ?

Philip Taylor
Jane Galt wrote:> I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on 
most sites! Then I have to

> open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!
>
> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!
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Getting REALLY SICK of SM not seeing Captcha boxes!

[Jane Galt]

I'm fed up with SM not seeing captcha boxes on most sites! Then I have to 
open Internet Explorer and do the same page all over again!

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!

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Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?

[PhillipJones]

sean.n.b...@invalid.wizard.net wrote:

On 11/8/2012 6:27 PM, Desiree wrote:

Under System Requirements for SeaMonkey Windows 8 is not mentioned. Why?
Does SM not work on Windows 8 (desktop not Metro)? I need it to work
because
a Windows 8 computer is on its way. and ALL 8 of my EMail addresses
are POP
only. I'm planning on using SeaMonkey Mail but now I am worried about it
working on Windows 8.


I have installed the Windows 8 Consumer Preview running on an old
Toshiba Qosmio F25 laptop, just for kicks I just downloaded Seamonkey
2.13.2...

Its running just fine in the Windows 8 desktop mode...

let me reboot and see what happens...

i had to dig in program files to find the Seamonkey.exe, dragged it down
and "pinned it" to the taskbar... works like a charm

sean




The latest version of SeaMonkey should work just Fine. Mozilla is more 
or less putting all their eggs in one Basket.


Although SeaMonkey is under the Mozilla Umbrella a different Group of 
people are working on SeaMonkey. The Mozilla Main office is simply 
ignoring SeaMonkey and Thunderbird for that Matter. They just recently 
announce That they will only do Bug fixes and updates in code to 
ThunderBird as Email New Clients have progressed as far as they can 
progress so far as additions and inovation. So most R&D wil be shifted 
to FireFox only.
SeaMonkey still uses FireFox's code base for the Web Browser and 
ThunderBird's code base for mail and News. So until the engineers in 
charge get tired or croak SeaMonkey will continue to be. I dread the 
Thoughts of the Day SeaMonkey will no longer be available. It get much 
enjoyment out of Reading newsgroups and Email. And not much of a Fan of 
the web based email Readers. I tolerate them because Microsoft and Adobe 
have gone strictly to that. I find it amazing that NNTP has never gone 
down in its entire existence (except for the occasional Server 
(equipment)melt down NNTP was first put into operation as a Joint 
project between the armed services and Major Universities back in the 
late 50's early 60's. But all this new wave web based email and 
newsgroup stuff contantaly has problems. Fun how older technology always 
end up more reliable than new.


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Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?

[Ant]

On 11/11/2012 10:40 PM PT, Rufus typed:

> There are some standing really annoying interface and QA type bugs that

aren't problems for competitors that are problems for SM.  Things like
that should be prioritized and fixed first in order to address/enhance
UE concerns, *if* the team is actually serious about being
"competitive".  Sometimes I wonder...


Yeah. And we need to vote for those issues in its Bugzilla to prioritize 
them. :(

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Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?

[Zanqeutil]

Desiree schreef:

"Zanqeutil"  wrote in message
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Snip

Desiree wrote:


If MS Money from '99 will run on it, I sure wish Word before 2007 would.
I
have MS Money for W98 but I want earlier version (non ribbon) of Word to
run
but have been told it will not.



I know this is a bit OT here but you can run Office 2007 -2010 in non
ribbon mode. There is a free tool UbitMenu to do this. It's free for
private use. I don't know if it will run in Windows 8.

http://www.howtogeek.com/80100/how-to-bring-back-the-old-menus-in-office-2007-2/

http://www.ubitmenu.com/

Free version
http://www.ubitmenu.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=34&lang=en

Zanqeutil



Thanks for the links. I remember after the Office 2007 public 6 month beta
that I did (and never got used to the ribbon) that I read there was PAID
($50) software that would take away the ribbon. But I never read about any
free software and I just kept using Word 2002.  A trial of Office 2010 for
Student and Home comes on my new computer.  I might buy that version of
Office if I can get free software to take away the ribbon.


I'm quite sure UbitMenu will work in Windows 8, it just copies 3 files 
to the office 2010 startup folders (for Word, Excel and Powerpoint).
(Word)UBitMenu04XX.dotx,(Excel)UBitMenu04XX.xlam,(Powerpoint) 
UBitMenu04XX.ppam


They are just Office add-ins, no executable files. Ubit sometimes copies 
them to the 'wrong' location, you can easely relocate them.


http://www.zerosignal.co.uk/2010/06/enabling-the-classic-menu-bar-ubitmenu-add-in-in-office-2007-2010-for-all-users/

http://helpdeskgeek.com/office-tips/use-office-2003-menus-in-office-2007-and-2010/

If you get your new machine and have any trouble doing this just ask in 
Mozilla General because this is a Seamonkey newsgroup.



Zanqeutil



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Re: Bookmarks and history system not functional

[Daniel]

Geoff Walker wrote:

In article ,
  Rufus  wrote:


Daniel wrote:

Geoff Walker wrote:

For over a year now I have not been using SM's browser on a day-to-day
basis, ever since SM browser "forgot" all my bookmarks and history, even
though Mail continues to work just fine.  It's as though SM browser is
unable to see my profile.  At the time it happened I posted here for
help but with no joy.

Since then I have been using Safari day-to-day, but I still use SM
browser from time to time when some site doesn't work properly on
Safari.  Today on just such an accasion, shortly after SM browser told
me it had blocked some pop-up windows, it re-opened my "previous"
session, ie the last session before my problems began over a year ago!
However it still couldn't see any bookmarks or history.

At the top of the visible tab on the frontmost window this message was
displayed this message :

"The bookmarks and history system will not be functional because one of
SeaMonkey's files is in use by another application.  Some security
software can cause this problem."

I don't have any security software that I'm aware of.  Can anyone use
this message to diagnose and solve my problem?

Thanks,
Geoff



Geoff, on Windows systems, SeaMonkey/Mozilla Suite did have a problem
where it would not close down properly (due to system crashes,
whatever), so the "prefs.js" file would be marked as still in use, so
when SeaMonkey was re-started, a new, empty, profile would be created.
Don't know if this was/is your problem!!

Have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles. Do you see more profiles than you
thought you had?? If so, check out the others to see if they contain
your missing bookmarks.

If that doesn't fix your problem, your bookmarks and history (and some
other stuff) are now (since ver 2.1, I think) stored in a file called
"places.sqlite". With SeaMonkey closed, do a search for this to see if
you have more than one. If so, in a thread called "Is there a way to
merge two different two local places.sqlite file copies together?" from
earlier today, David E Ross has provided a method of combining two
places.sqlite files.

HTH!



Before doing all the heavy lifting, try running Disk Utility and do a
Repair Permissions.  Also try running a utility like Onyx to flush
cashes and temporary files.


Thankyou fellows for your suggestions.  It's taken me a little time to
respond as I've been exploring both of them.  But with both your
suggestions I've now fixed the problem.

First I found, downloaded and used Onyx.  On its own that didn't fix the
problem, although cleaning up one's files is always a good thing to do!

Moving on to Daniel's suggestions, I only have one profile so the issue
of merging places.sqlite files wasn't going to be the solution.  But the
mention of places.sqlite made me look more closely, and I noticed that I
had two other places.sqlite files, namely places.sqlite-journal and
places.sqlite.corrupt, both last modified on 24/7/2011, about the time
that SM browser stopped seeing my profile.

Some googling led me to
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locked_or_damaged_places.sqlite and I was able
to use the suggestion there about deleting both places.sqlite and
places.sqlite-journal, and then renaming places.sqlite.corrupt to
places.sqlite to give me back my SM browser's full functionality.

I'm not sure how the solution I found ties into the message I had
previously received :
"The bookmarks and history system will not be functional because one of
SeaMonkey's files is in use by another application.  Some security
software can cause this problem.",
but I don't care and I'm very happy!

Many thanks,
Geoff



Glad to hear you're happy, Geoff!

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Ron, what did you type?? (was:- Re: OT : Windows Update)

[Daniel]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Ron Hunter wrote:


MS Update normally only needs to run once a month.


What is your evidence for that statement, Ron ?  On my systems, it
is not unusual for (e.g.,) Windows Defender to update itself daily,
or even more frequently if the need arises.  Even "normal" Windows
Updates come in /far/ more frequently than once per month.

Philip Taylor


Ron, four or five times now, I've tried to read your reply to Paul, 
here, that Philip has replied to!! Each time, I get an Error msg, 
stating "no such article.Perhaps the article has expired"


What did you say that was wrong??

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Re: Set background-color for selected text in composer

[mdzaebel]

Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012 18:32:32 UTC+1 schrieb Michael Gordon:
> If you create a  text , and then with css define a box around 

Hi Michael, with the mentioned CCS enabled (edit button), SM uses  which works fine too. This is really handy. I need 3 clicks to color 
any text selection.

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Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?

[Desiree]

"Zanqeutil"  wrote in message 
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> Snip
>
> Desiree wrote:
>
>> If MS Money from '99 will run on it, I sure wish Word before 2007 would. 
>> I
>> have MS Money for W98 but I want earlier version (non ribbon) of Word to 
>> run
>> but have been told it will not.
>
>
> I know this is a bit OT here but you can run Office 2007 -2010 in non 
> ribbon mode. There is a free tool UbitMenu to do this. It's free for 
> private use. I don't know if it will run in Windows 8.
>
> http://www.howtogeek.com/80100/how-to-bring-back-the-old-menus-in-office-2007-2/
>
> http://www.ubitmenu.com/
>
> Free version
> http://www.ubitmenu.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=34&lang=en
>
> Zanqeutil
>

Thanks for the links. I remember after the Office 2007 public 6 month beta 
that I did (and never got used to the ribbon) that I read there was PAID 
($50) software that would take away the ribbon. But I never read about any 
free software and I just kept using Word 2002.  A trial of Office 2010 for 
Student and Home comes on my new computer.  I might buy that version of 
Office if I can get free software to take away the ribbon. 


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Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?

[Zanqeutil]

Snip

Desiree wrote:


If MS Money from '99 will run on it, I sure wish Word before 2007 would. I
have MS Money for W98 but I want earlier version (non ribbon) of Word to run
but have been told it will not.



I know this is a bit OT here but you can run Office 2007 -2010 in non 
ribbon mode. There is a free tool UbitMenu to do this. It's free for 
private use. I don't know if it will run in Windows 8.


http://www.howtogeek.com/80100/how-to-bring-back-the-old-menus-in-office-2007-2/

http://www.ubitmenu.com/

Free version
http://www.ubitmenu.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=34&lang=en

Zanqeutil

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Re: bold

[Daniel]

Peta McGinn wrote:

Hi,
I have windows 7 and IE, when I create an article in sea monkey and then upload 
to the website, it comes over as the text in bold.  Can you tell me how to 
prevent this.

Regards Peta McGinn



Peta, would it be possible for you to upload an article to your site, 
then post us a link so we can see the result and you tell us what you 
were trying to achieve??


I've cross-posted this to mozilla.support.seamonkey, and set follow-up 
there, as this is the appropriate place, I think!!


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Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?

[Desiree]

 wrote in message 
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> On 11/8/2012 6:27 PM, Desiree wrote:
>> Under System Requirements for SeaMonkey Windows 8 is not mentioned. Why?
>> Does SM not work on Windows 8 (desktop not Metro)? I need it to work 
>> because
>> a Windows 8 computer is on its way. and ALL 8 of my EMail addresses are 
>> POP
>> only. I'm planning on using SeaMonkey Mail but now I am worried about it
>> working on Windows 8.
>
> I have installed the Windows 8 Consumer Preview running on an old Toshiba 
> Qosmio F25 laptop, just for kicks I just downloaded Seamonkey 2.13.2...
>
> Its running just fine in the Windows 8 desktop mode...
>
> let me reboot and see what happens...
>
> i had to dig in program files to find the Seamonkey.exe, dragged it down 
> and "pinned it" to the taskbar... works like a charm
>
> sean

That is good newsI read that you have to pin applications to the 
taskbar.
>
>
>
> 


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Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?

[Desiree]

"MCBastos"  wrote in message 
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> Interviewed by CNN on 10/11/2012 11:27, Desiree told the world:
>
>> Now I am confused. I thought Win 8 was Metro or Desktop and when on 
>> Desktop
>> you keep getting flipped into Metro when you don't want that. So, you 
>> have
>> to do all sorts of third party fixes and tweaks to keep from being 
>> flipped
>> to Metro which a desktop user wants to avoid completely, right? The real
>> difference is what sort of monitor you have. I have no intention of 
>> buying a
>> 24 Dell Ultrsharp that is touch screen! YUCK! You need Metro for
>> touch...what else would you need it for? So, hardware that has a touch
>> screen, some laptops and tablets and ultrabooks would require Metro
>> ...everything else would be Desktop side. Right?
>>
>> Is there is special Tablet version of Win 8?
>
> The "tablet" version (more accurately called the "ARM CPU" version) is
> called Windows RT. It is *only* Metro, and does not not support desktop
> applications at all.
>
> I have tested Windows 8 Pro x64 in a brand-new Dell laptop (one which
> came with Windows 7 and does not have a touchscreen, by the way);
> generally speaking, the whole experience of using it for regular Windows
> desktop stuff has been disappointing; the whole
> switch-back-to-Metro-to-start-a-new-app is annoying. I didn't figure out
> yet a convenient way to create desktop icons for applications, which
> would help a lot -- it is possible to do it the "hard way", but I didn't
> find something equivalent to right-mouse-drag-from-the-Start-Menu.
>
> But I had no problems running old apps on it; I even managed to install
> MS Money 99 -- yes, a *fourteen-year-old* app written for *Windows 98*.
> Basically, it happily accepted any application that Windows 7 could run.
> System utilities are a different matter, of course. But I expect
> Seamonkey will run fine in Windows 8 desktop. The Windows 8 specific
> bugs somebody listed, from what I saw, are mostly related to setting up
> convenient shortcuts and defining SM as a default application and
> shouldn't keep it from working correctly.

If MS Money from '99 will run on it, I sure wish Word before 2007 would. I 
have MS Money for W98 but I want earlier version (non ribbon) of Word to run 
but have been told it will not.


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Re: Does SeaMonkey support Windows 8?

[sean . n . bean]

On 11/8/2012 6:27 PM, Desiree wrote:

Under System Requirements for SeaMonkey Windows 8 is not mentioned. Why?
Does SM not work on Windows 8 (desktop not Metro)? I need it to work because
a Windows 8 computer is on its way. and ALL 8 of my EMail addresses are POP
only. I'm planning on using SeaMonkey Mail but now I am worried about it
working on Windows 8.


for what its worth, I LOVE Windows 8 on my old laptop... i dunno why 
anyone is complaining about it. Metro has interesting features, and 
doesn't need touch screen capability to swipe across the screen, both 
the right/left arrows & center scroll mouse wheel take over swipe 
functionality on non-touch screens...


but one doesn't ever have to use it if one stays in the desktop...

its best not to become sticks in the mud... Win 8 is very very sweet...

sean



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