Re: Bigpond NG again

[F Murtz]

David Cox wrote:

On 29/04/2013 2:18 PM, F Murtz wrote:

I have just recieved an email from bigpond giving detailed instructions
on how to connect to bigpond ng so it appears that the stories on its
demise are exagerated. I would post the email but it has an instruction
not to repost.
I still can not recieve it but that is probably a problem between
seamonkey, my modem and bigpond server,I think it needs my password but
I can not figure a way to make it ask for it.


What happens when you try to telnet the news server?
You should get something like

 > telnet news.bigpond.com 119
200 Welcome Message ()

If you do connect, use "quit" without the quotes to exit.
This assumes that your secret instructions did not change the port
number from the default of 119.

I get

Connecting To news.bigpond.com...Could not open connection to the host,
on port 119: Connect failed

djc


If I ping it  it tries 4 times and says timed out.
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Re: RFE: Bundling BlueGriffon

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-04-28 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-04-27 2:58 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

On 2013-04-25 10:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


P.S. Sorry, I tried to send this to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, but
SeaMonkey refused to cooperate. Do I need to be subscribed to post
there?


Here's what I get:
 Sending of message failed.
 Please verify that your Mail & Newsgroups settings
 are correct and try again.


What are your settings?


Not sure what you're asking, because I can't tell from the error message
what settings are relevant. My name and email address are exactly the
same as for this newsgroup, since I tried to reply from this account.
Same goes for SMTP settings.


Make sure you are using the server name: news.mozilla.org
Set it to port 119.
Set connection security to none.
Turn off "Always request authentication..."

(SMTP doesn't apply to posting to newsgroups)


These are exactly the settings I use to post here, and they've worked 
fine for years.


But when I replied to that key posting where the newsgroup name 
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey was substituted (due to your followup 
setting) for mozilla.support.seamonkey -- doing nothing special except 
hitting "Reply" -- I got that error message. I replied from this account 
with these settings and I was rejected, so it logically follows that I 
have to be subscribed to that group in order to post. Or doesn't it?


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Re: Smilies

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-04-29 2:13 AM, M Gordon wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

With Seamonkey, when using newsgroups if I put an ascii smiley ihe
receiver gets a picture smiley, where does seamonkey hide this smiley
and can I (and how to make and replace) it with a bigger one? or
animated one?


To the best of my knowledge the smileys in SM are proprietary to
SeaMonkey/Mozilla/Netscape, and are hidden inside the applications.


The code is public, and development is public. The images are in the 
source code at 
.

Just click on the file name, then click "raw".

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Re: Smilies

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-04-28 11:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:

With Seamonkey, when using newsgroups if I put an ascii smiley ihe
receiver gets a picture smiley, where does seamonkey hide this smiley
and can I (and how to make and replace) it with a bigger one? or
animated one?


I'll have to make a new screencast, because the css code to change the 
images has changed, but if you're familiar with how to create a 
userContent.css file, the code for smile is:


span.moz-smiley-s1:before {
content: url("filename.extension") !important;
}

Replace filename.extension with the actual file name and extension, and 
put that file in your profile's \chrome\ directory.


For an example of how to create a userContent.css file, view the 
screencast at .


And yes, it supports animated gifs. :)

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Re: RFE: Bundling BlueGriffon

[Chris Ilias]

On 2013-04-28 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-04-27 2:58 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

On 2013-04-25 10:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


P.S. Sorry, I tried to send this to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, but
SeaMonkey refused to cooperate. Do I need to be subscribed to post
there?


Here's what I get:
 Sending of message failed.
 Please verify that your Mail & Newsgroups settings
 are correct and try again.


What are your settings?


Not sure what you're asking, because I can't tell from the error message
what settings are relevant. My name and email address are exactly the
same as for this newsgroup, since I tried to reply from this account.
Same goes for SMTP settings.


Make sure you are using the server name: news.mozilla.org
Set it to port 119.
Set connection security to none.
Turn off "Always request authentication..."

(SMTP doesn't apply to posting to newsgroups)

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Re: Bigpond NG again

[David Cox]

On 29/04/2013 2:18 PM, F Murtz wrote:

I have just recieved an email from bigpond giving detailed instructions
on how to connect to bigpond ng so it appears that the stories on its
demise are exagerated. I would post the email but it has an instruction
not to repost.
I still can not recieve it but that is probably a problem between
seamonkey, my modem and bigpond server,I think it needs my password but
I can not figure a way to make it ask for it.


What happens when you try to telnet the news server?
You should get something like

> telnet news.bigpond.com 119
200 Welcome Message ()

If you do connect, use "quit" without the quotes to exit.
This assumes that your secret instructions did not change the port 
number from the default of 119.


I get

Connecting To news.bigpond.com...Could not open connection to the host, 
on port 119: Connect failed


djc

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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

Thank you in advance. :)

I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM
2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169).  I suppose I have to go to a
previous version since this has only started with the most recent
update.  Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and
which is the best one to use for Seamonkey?


OK, I seem to have figured it out myself, installing version
11.6.602.180 from the Adobe site.  I know it is an unsupported older
version; but at least Flash has stopped crashing every time I open a
window with a Flash video.
In terms of overall vulnerability, I think you'd be better off with the 
latest flash and the most recent version of SeaMonkey that will support it.



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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

[Ken Rudolph]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM
2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169).  I suppose I have to go to a
previous version since this has only started with the most recent
update.  Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and
which is the best one to use for Seamonkey?

OK, I seem to have figured it out myself, installing version 
11.6.602.180 from the Adobe site.  I know it is an unsupported older 
version; but at least Flash has stopped crashing every time I open a 
window with a Flash video.


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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

[Ken Rudolph]

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM 
2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169).  I suppose I have to go to a 
previous version since this has only started with the most recent 
update.  Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and 
which is the best one to use for Seamonkey?


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Re: Smilies

[Hartmut Figge]

David E. Ross:

>I have '[x] Display emoticons as graphics', and I see the smiley images
>in plain text messages.

Same here.

Hartmut
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Re: Smilies

[David E. Ross]

On 4/29/13 3:59 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> M Gordon:
> 
>> When a user receives a HTML message he sees the graphical icon, but when 
>> he only reads ASCII mail he sees only the ASCII characters that 
>> represent the icon.
> 
> The latter depends on '[x] Display emoticons as graphics' in
> Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Message Display. I did not like the new
> smileys introduced in the past, so on my SM's there are still the old ones.
> 
> Hartmut
> 

I have '[x] Display emoticons as graphics', and I see the smiley images
in plain text messages.


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Re: RFE: Bundling BlueGriffon

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 29/04/2013 00:48, »Q« told the world:

> Lee's not creating pages for the web.  People aren't reading Lee's
> posts about what Lee *is* trying to do, so Lee is getting a lot
> advice/opinions/noise about stuff that Lee is *not* trying to do.

Then, there's two possibilities that might have to be considered:

1. HTML may be the wrong tool for whatever he's doing.

HTML was created for sharing information in a standardized way. In order
to do that, it places some constraints on the ways you can present that
information. For instance, there is still no convenient way to do
footnotes with HTML -- I have seen any number of hacks, none really
good. So he might be working with constraints that are unnecessary, when
some other open format -- like (to stay on the footnote example)
OpenDocument, which is the native format for OpenOffice/LibreOffice.

Yes, those constraints in HTML are getting less restrictive, thanks to
the evolving CSS3 and HTML5; but OTOH, old tools like Seamonkey Composer
don't support those newer standards. (In fact, if memory serves well
Composer has known bugs regarding HTML4, which is a fifteen-year-old
standard)

2. Even for his own private use, he may be underestimating the value of
interoperability.

Even if he's using it for his own files, so his data does not get
trapped into proprietary formats like MS-Word, he should consider the
following:

Technology evolves. Eventually he will get a new browser, or a new
device which is not compatible with his current browsers. (Tablets and
smartphones offer far less browser choice than full-fledged computers;
even on those, eventually new OS versions drop support for old apps.)

If his HTML is buggy, he will have problems seeing it in those new
devices. That sort of defeats the purpose of using open formats -- if
you still have to get the old app to read the files, it's not much
better than having, say, Wordperfect for DOS files which require
Wordperfect to read them, now is it?

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Re: Smilies

[Hartmut Figge]

M Gordon:

>When a user receives a HTML message he sees the graphical icon, but when 
>he only reads ASCII mail he sees only the ASCII characters that 
>represent the icon.

The latter depends on '[x] Display emoticons as graphics' in
Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Message Display. I did not like the new
smileys introduced in the past, so on my SM's there are still the old ones.

Hartmut
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Re: Bigpond NG again

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

F Murtz wrote:

> I have just recieved an email from bigpond giving detailed instructions
> on how to connect to bigpond ng so it appears that the stories on its
> demise are exagerated. I would post the email but it has an instruction
> not to repost.
> I still can not recieve it but that is probably a problem between
> seamonkey, my modem and bigpond server,I think it needs my password but
> I can not figure a way to make it ask for it.

Have you gone into Options -> Privacy & Security -> Passwords yet?  See 
the "Manage Stored Passwords" button?  Go there and delete the current 
record, and SeaMonkey should give you a dialog asking for it again. Be 
sure to click the appropriate checkbox for it to remember it again.

Make sure you know what the correct password is before deleting.

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Re: Smilies

[M Gordon]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/28/13 8:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:

With Seamonkey, when using newsgroups if I put an ascii smiley ihe
receiver gets a picture smiley, where does seamonkey hide this smiley
and can I (and how to make and replace) it with a bigger one? or
animated one?



Actually, the simley image is generated by the recipient's application.
  If your recipient would look at the message source as received, the
ASCII smiley would be there.  In the case of newsgroups, you should
select [View>  Message Source] from the menu bar.  You will see only the
ASCII smiley.

If you go to [View>  Zoom], you can select or deselect Zoom Text Only.
Deselected, zooming will make the smiley image larger or smaller as the
text is also zoomed.



Sorry, David.

I thought the poster was referring to the Smileys that used to be with 
Mozilla based e-mail.  They are ASCII characters converted to graphic 
icons.  They are not accessible to the user, just from the HTML editor.


When a user receives a HTML message he sees the graphical icon, but when 
he only reads ASCII mail he sees only the ASCII characters that 
represent the icon.


Michael G
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