Re: Old Eyes

2013-05-20 Thread Rufus


You could also try cyan or magenta on black and see if that's more 
visible/easier on your eyes than white text.  Under SM 
Preferences-Appearance-Colors you can force-choose the colors for text 
and background if you uncheck Use System Colors, and also check Use my 
chosen colors (which may make pictures look funny on websites).  This 
should affect both Panes.


You can also force SM font size under Preferences-Appearance-Fonts; 
could just be a matter of picking one that is more visible for you.


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Lee wrote:

I did try the white fonts on a black background and yes the body of the
msg was much easier to read but the portion I have trouble reading is
the listing of incoming msgs and nothing changed there.  That is where
my primary problem is.  As far as the body goes a Ctrl and + makes
reading a lot easier by increasing the fonts.  Thank everyone for your
responses.

Rufus wrote:

You may want to try looking at the assistive settings/prefs for your
basic OS - Mac OS has system wide settings under Universal Access to aid
those with vision impairment.  Sometimes color inversion vice simple
black/white inversion can help, as well as adjusting contrast setting.




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Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete?

2013-05-20 Thread Ant

On 5/19/2013 10:36 AM PT, Chris Ilias typed:


Do I really have to delete all at once or one by one?


Hold down the Ctrl key to keep the previous cookie selected as you
select another one.


Uh, it doesn't work. Same for shift key. I assume you were doing this in
SM v2.17.1's Tools - Cookie Manager?


Yup. Here's a screenshot just in case there's a detail we're missing.
It's on Mac, but I doubt that it's different on Windows.
http://ilias.ca/screenshots/sm-mac-selectcookies.png


Ah, that works but I meant highlighting more than one on the left side's 
list: google.com, mozilla.org, and twitter.com as shown in your screen 
shot/capture.

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Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete?

2013-05-20 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2013-05-18 10:58 PM, Ant wrote:

On 5/18/2013 5:26 PM PT, Chris Ilias typed:


Do I really have to delete all at once or one by one?


Hold down the Ctrl key to keep the previous cookie selected as you
select another one.


Uh, it doesn't work. Same for shift key. I assume you were doing this in
SM v2.17.1's Tools - Cookie Manager?


Yup. Here's a screenshot just in case there's a detail we're missing. 
It's on Mac, but I doubt that it's different on Windows.

http://ilias.ca/screenshots/sm-mac-selectcookies.png

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Re: ClassNotFoundException Error

2013-05-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

William Greenwood wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a ClassNotFoundException
error when attempting to access the following chart

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
...


Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which 
is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it, you'll 
get your charts back.


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Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke

2013-05-20 Thread PhillipJones

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a ClassNotFoundException
error when attempting to access the following chart

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
...


Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which
is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it, you'll
get your charts back.



The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey.

In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora
comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java 
Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date.


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Re: Old Eyes

2013-05-20 Thread Lee

I did try the white fonts on a black background and yes the body of the
msg was much easier to read but the portion I have trouble reading is
the listing of incoming msgs and nothing changed there.  That is where
my primary problem is.  As far as the body goes a Ctrl and + makes 
reading a lot easier by increasing the fonts.  Thank everyone for your

responses.

Rufus wrote:

You may want to try looking at the assistive settings/prefs for your
basic OS - Mac OS has system wide settings under Universal Access to aid
those with vision impairment.  Sometimes color inversion vice simple
black/white inversion can help, as well as adjusting contrast setting.


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Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke

2013-05-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a ClassNotFoundException
error when attempting to access the following chart

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
...


Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which
is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it, you'll
get your charts back.



The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey.


In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but 
the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do 
as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get 
SM to lock up is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound 
dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my 
full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open.


I do agree the page is defective.


In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora
comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java
Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date.


I don't get that, either. My Java is Version 7, Build 21 (build 
1.7.0_21-b11), and everybody knows it. I last updated May 16.


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Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete?

2013-05-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/18/13 9:44 AM, Ant wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Do I really have to delete all at once or one by one?
 
 Thank you in advance. :)
 

If you do not already have it get PrefBar and install it.  It's at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/.

Then go to http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#permissionsmenu
and install the Permissions Menu menulist.  This allows you to get the
old-style Cookies Manager from the PrefBar tool bar.

It also allows you to get the old-style Popups Manager and Image
Manager.  Although I have never used the Installation Manager (so I'm
not sure what it is), it also allows you to use the old-style of that.

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Re: NASA live tv feed

2013-05-20 Thread Ed
On 5/19/2013 6:17 PM Geoff Welsh submitted the following:
 PhillipJones wrote:
 Paul wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
 W3BNR wrote:
 Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
 it's working
 in IE with VLC;

 http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/


 How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last
 few years? They might support something like a recent plugin.

 Works great with SM1119.
 works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions

 
 Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about.  I don't 
 even
 know there is a VLC plug-in.
 
 GW

vlc 2.0.6.0 plug-on works with SM.
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Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke

2013-05-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a
ClassNotFoundException
error when attempting to access the following chart

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
...


Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which
is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it,
you'll
get your charts back.



The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey.


In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but
the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do
as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get
SM to lock up is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound
dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my
full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open.

I do agree the page is defective.


In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora
comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java
Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date.


I don't get that, either. My Java is Version 7, Build 21 (build
1.7.0_21-b11), and everybody knows it. I last updated May 16.


when in SeaMonkey you can not switch pages , switch back to email It's
Frozen tight the only thing you can do is a Force quit. Mouse or track
pad pointer can move around but no controls work at all. You can't even
Quit SeaMonkey you have to do Command-Option-Esc.
Then you can mouse down to SeaMonkey and click to do a force quit. All
the other browsers the page partially comes up with the erro message
about Java not up-to-date.


This may be your experience, but it's not mine, so please stop using the 
second-person pronoun and start using the first-person pronoun.


As I said, /my/ experience is that everything works, on that page and 
elsewhere. I can switch windows and apps, clicks work, and so forth.


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Minor crash after edit of preference in about:config

2013-05-20 Thread Richard Owlett

I am using SeaMonkey 2.17.1 on WinXP Pro SP3
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Build identifier: 20130410205058

I have multiple profiles. Therefore when I launch SeaMonkey I see 
Profile manager.


Problem:
Every time I modify a setting in about:config the next launch of 
SeaMonkey with the same profile I get an error message saying it 
is already in use.


I can usually successfully start by launching with a different 
profile, exiting, and restarting with desired profile. 
Occasionally reboot of Windows is necessary.




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ClassNotFoundException Error

2013-05-20 Thread William Greenwood
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1


Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a ClassNotFoundException 
error when attempting to access the following chart


http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX

When I click on error Details I get the following

Java Plug-in 10.21.2.12
Using JRE version 1.7.0_21-b12 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
User home directory = /Users/whgiii

c:   clear console window
f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
g:   garbage collect
h:   display this help message
l:   dump classloader list
m:   print memory usage
o:   trigger logging
q:   hide console
r:   reload policy configuration
s:   dump system and deployment properties
t:   dump thread list
v:   dump thread stack
x:   clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to n

Resource http://stockcharts.com/img/logo_perfcharts.gif has future 
expires: Mon May 27 09:46:58 EDT 2013 update check skipped.

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Re: Old Eyes

2013-05-20 Thread WaltS

On 05/19/2013 09:44 AM, Lori wrote:

Also, I don't understand why web
designers use light-colored fonts on white or light backgrounds.  I have to
squint to see them.


See my post in mozilla.general titled Amazing change in viewing sites. 
It is amazing what a little display adjustment can do for your browsing 
experience.


Not all, but a lot of those sites you think are designed with 
light-colored fonts, on white or light backgrounds, are actually black 
fonts on darker backgrounds.


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Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete?

2013-05-20 Thread Ed Mullen

Ant wrote:

On 5/18/2013 6:27 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


Do I really have to delete all at once or one by one?

Thank you in advance. :)


chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul


Wow, where is this from GUI? Or is it hidden? :(


It's the old cookie manager and it does NOT appear in the GUI.

There are some other interesting ones:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php

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Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke

2013-05-20 Thread PhillipJones

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a ClassNotFoundException
error when attempting to access the following chart

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
...


Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which
is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it, you'll
get your charts back.



The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey.


In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but
the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do
as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get
SM to lock up is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound
dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my
full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open.

I do agree the page is defective.


In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora
comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java
Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date.


I don't get that, either. My Java is Version 7, Build 21 (build
1.7.0_21-b11), and everybody knows it. I last updated May 16.

when in SeaMonkey you can not switch pages , switch back to email It's 
Frozen tight the only thing you can do is a Force quit. Mouse or track 
pad pointer can move around but no controls work at all. You can't even 
Quit SeaMonkey you have to do Command-Option-Esc.
Then you can mouse down to SeaMonkey and click to do a force quit. All 
the other browsers the page partially comes up with the erro message 
about Java not up-to-date.


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Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke

2013-05-20 Thread Hartmut Figge
PhillipJones:

[http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX ]

The page is defective.

The run-log shows:

OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.12.4) (Gentoo build 1.6.0_27-b27)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
Unable to use Firefox's proxy settings. Using DIRECT as proxy type.
JAR http://stockcharts.com/classes/PNFApplet.jar not found. Continuing.
netx: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet.  to fetch
applet instance id from Java side.
[...]

The missing PNFApplet.jar seems to be the culprit.

Hartmut
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Re: NASA live tv feed

2013-05-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Geoff Welsh wrote:


PhillipJones wrote:

Paul wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
it's working
in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/



How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last
few years? They might support something like a recent plugin.


Works great with SM1119.

works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions



Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about.  I
don't even know there is a VLC plug-in.


There is, and you can set it to handle *.flv, *.swf, and a variety of 
other video formats.


VLC Web Plugin
File: npvlc.dll
Version: 2.0.6.0
VLC media player Web Plugin 2.0.6




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Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete?

2013-05-20 Thread Ant

On 5/19/2013 10:37 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


Do I really have to delete all at once or one by one?


chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul


Wow, where is this from GUI? Or is it hidden? :(


It's the old cookie manager and it does NOT appear in the GUI.

There are some other interesting ones:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php


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Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke

2013-05-20 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a
ClassNotFoundException
error when attempting to access the following chart

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
...


Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error,
which
is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it,
you'll
get your charts back.



The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey.


In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but
the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do
as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get
SM to lock up is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound
dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my
full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open.

I do agree the page is defective.


In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora
comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java
Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date.


I don't get that, either. My Java is Version 7, Build 21 (build
1.7.0_21-b11), and everybody knows it. I last updated May 16.


when in SeaMonkey you can not switch pages , switch back to email It's
Frozen tight the only thing you can do is a Force quit. Mouse or track
pad pointer can move around but no controls work at all. You can't even
Quit SeaMonkey you have to do Command-Option-Esc.
Then you can mouse down to SeaMonkey and click to do a force quit. All
the other browsers the page partially comes up with the erro message
about Java not up-to-date.


This may be your experience, but it's not mine, so please stop using the
second-person pronoun and start using the first-person pronoun.

As I said, /my/ experience is that everything works, on that page and
elsewhere. I can switch windows and apps, clicks work, and so forth.


Paul, could it be that your Windows computer is seeing different 
functionalities to Phillip's Mac computer??


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or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:21.0) 
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Re: NASA live tv feed

2013-05-20 Thread Geoff Welsh

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
it's working
in IE with VLC;

http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/



How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last
few years? They might support something like a recent plugin.


Works great with SM1119.

works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions



Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about.  I 
don't even know there is a VLC plug-in.


GW
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Re: Old Eyes

2013-05-20 Thread Roger Fink



 Original Message 

Old is right!  For a person with reactive glare problems caused by a
cataract, white on black eliminates the problem, especially when you're on
the one-eyed monster for long hours.  Also, I don't understand why web
designers use light-colored fonts on white or light backgrounds.  I have to
squint to see them.
Using Windows 7 I've made the high contrast change there and have been
doing everything in white on black for years.  Learned that with Word
Perfect long ago.
One minor problem:  Some website submit-type boxes may not show up on the
black background, so I simply stab around with the tab key to find them.
If I can't negotiate through a site easily, I switch to a white browser,
which I keep available for that purpose.

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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 20:18:59 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Old Eyes
Message-ID: xe6dna8z5dpuhwxmnz2dnuvz_osdn...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ben09880 wrote:


For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
be black, with all text white.

Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.


No, bright text on black screen is easier to read (for everyone, kids just
don't
notice). When the screen is bright the pupils shrink, think trying to see a
traffic signal when the sun is in your eyes. That's why there's a backlit
option on cameras.


White-on-black is common on garage band web sites...


I'm not sure that's relevant to the technical issues... I like green on
black
personally, that's also not relevant.


As someone who has experienced this firsthand, I share your disdain of 
close contrast text/background websites.


While I have nothing against garage bands, since Mozart is close by when 
things head south, white font on black background is pretty radical 
surgery. I'd opt for cataract surgery first, but until that happens 
consider overriding the website font with a font that overrides all 
webpage fonts, which Mozilla allows you to do. Tiresias PCfont Z was 
designed specifically to enhance readability on computer screens. It's 
freely available for download, and I find it excellent.






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Re: Telling SM to do internal reboot

2013-05-20 Thread Jens Hatlak

Bill Davidsen wrote:

I know the developers will say there's no time to fix the problem of the
memory leak


There's no time to... SCNR. Incidentally I know that the developers, 
which in this case mostly means TB developers, continually fix memory 
leaks. So chances are that the ones you are seeing are actually caused 
by add-ons rather than the application itself.


Greetings,

Jens


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Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and delete?

2013-05-20 Thread Ant

On 5/19/2013 6:30 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


If you do not already have it get PrefBar and install it.  It's at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/.

Then go to http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#permissionsmenu
and install the Permissions Menu menulist.  This allows you to get the
old-style Cookies Manager from the PrefBar tool bar.

It also allows you to get the old-style Popups Manager and Image
Manager.  Although I have never used the Installation Manager (so I'm
not sure what it is), it also allows you to use the old-style of that.


Thanks. I didn't know PrefBar had those. :)
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Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke

2013-05-20 Thread A Williams

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a
ClassNotFoundException
error when attempting to access the following chart

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
...


Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which
is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it,
you'll
get your charts back.



The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey.


In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but
the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do
as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get
SM to lock up is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound
dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my
full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open.

I do agree the page is defective.


In Chrome, Maxthon, FireFox, Opera, Opera Next, Safari, OmniWeb Aurora
comes up a notice that Java is out of date. Yet when I go to the Java
Control Panel it says Java Current version up to date.


I don't get that, either. My Java is Version 7, Build 21 (build
1.7.0_21-b11), and everybody knows it. I last updated May 16.


when in SeaMonkey you can not switch pages , switch back to email It's
Frozen tight the only thing you can do is a Force quit. Mouse or track
pad pointer can move around but no controls work at all. You can't even
Quit SeaMonkey you have to do Command-Option-Esc.
Then you can mouse down to SeaMonkey and click to do a force quit. All
the other browsers the page partially comes up with the erro message
about Java not up-to-date.



No error message, the page looked very incomplete.  Closing the tab 
caused the tab to close, totally painless.


My Java plugin is something Opensuse provides called IcedTea.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17

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Re: EMAIL FOLDERS DISAPPEARED

2013-05-20 Thread Rob
Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote:
 marionwalthe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Friday, May 17, 2013 3:38:54 PM UTC-6, mar...@marico.cc wrote:
 My email folders just disappeared. My inbox messages are still there and if 
 I right click and click on move to the folders lists are all there. But I 
 cannot get my screen back with the folders.



 Marion

 Disregard. Solved.  Thank you

 and the solution was .??

Probably Press F9.

This happens in our company as well.  At irregular intervals, users
call that the pane with the folders is no longer there.  When they
press F9, it returns.  There is no indication that they killed it
themselves earlier by pressing F9, it just disappears at a random
moment.
It has happened to users that I trust that they tell the truth about
this (not pressing F9 themselves).
I think it is a bug but I have never been able to reproduce it or to
find any common circumstance in which it occurs.
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Old Eyes

2013-05-20 Thread Lori
I use white on black for everything to avoid white or other light-colored
backgrounds; not just SM.
My daughter recoiled when she saw it, but it doesn't take much getting used
to, and it's real easy on the eyes.

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   1. Re: NASA live tv feed (Geoff Welsh)
   2. Re: NASA live tv feed (Ed)
   3. Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke (Paul B. Gallagher)
   4. Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and
  delete? (David E. Ross)
   5. Minor crash after edit  of preference in about:config
  (Richard Owlett)
   6. Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and
  delete? (Chris Ilias)
   7. Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke (PhillipJones)
   8. Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke (Paul B. Gallagher)
   9. Re: NASA live tv feed (Paul B. Gallagher)
  10. Re: Old Eyes (Roger Fink)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 12:17:51 -1000
From: Geoff Welsh g...@some.rr.com
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: NASA live tv feed
Message-ID: 0lqdnffavzqg0gtmnz2dnuvz_v-dn...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

PhillipJones wrote:
 Paul wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
 W3BNR wrote:
 Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
 it's working
 in IE with VLC;

 http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/


 How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last
 few years? They might support something like a recent plugin.

 Works great with SM1119.
 works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions


Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about.  I 
don't even know there is a VLC plug-in.

GW


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 19:41:39 -0400
From: Ed ed.nara...@verizon.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: NASA live tv feed
Message-ID: uumdnwz__7sp_gtmnz2dnuvz_o6dn...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 5/19/2013 6:17 PM Geoff Welsh submitted the following:
 PhillipJones wrote:
 Paul wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
 W3BNR wrote:
 Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
 it's working
 in IE with VLC;

 http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/


 How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last
 few years? They might support something like a recent plugin.

 Works great with SM1119.
 works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions

 
 Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about.  I don't
even
 know there is a VLC plug-in.
 
 GW

vlc 2.0.6.0 plug-on works with SM.


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 20:22:35 -0400
From: Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke
Message-ID: q6adnun2midw8qtmnz2dnuvz_vgdn...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

PhillipJones wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 PhillipJones wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 William Greenwood wrote:

 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1

 Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a
 ClassNotFoundException
 error when attempting to access the following chart

 http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX 
 ...

 Not your fault, not SeaMonkey's fault. IE 9 shows the same error, which
 is at the server end. When the webmaster notices it and fixes it,
 you'll
 get your charts back.


 The page is defective. In SeaMonkey it locks up SeaMonkey.

 In what sense? In my installation, the chart does throw an error, but
 the rest of the page is fully functional. The mouse moves, and clicks do
 as I expect, including taking me to target pages. The only way I can get
 SM to lock up is if I click for details and leave the ClassNotFound
 dialog open. But as soon as I choose Details/Ignore/Reload, I have my
 full functionality back -- even if I leave the Java error detail open.

 I do agree the page is 

Auto-expand folder in Bookmarks toolbar ?

2013-05-20 Thread Philip Taylor
Under Bookmarks / Manage bookmarks, I can create a new folder
under Bookmarks toolbar.  How do I persuade that folder to auto-
expand when I hover over it ?

Philip Taylor
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Re: Old Eyes

2013-05-20 Thread Barry Smith
I am not an official seamonkey contact, just a user like you.

Your operating system should have a magnification tool that should magnify
everything.

I know that Windows and Ubuntu (and even iOS) all have some screen
magnifying glass tool, that allows you to magnify sections of the screen.
 Using the OS magnification tool should allow you to leave the magnify on
the body of the email at default size.

There are also audio screen readers that let you rest your eyes a little
bit. ;)

Best of luck in your computer adventure.



On Friday, May 17, 2013, Lee wrote:

 Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
 it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
 for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
 incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
 and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
 than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
 there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
 to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
 18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
 am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
 body of the msg!  Thanks!
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Old Eyes

2013-05-20 Thread Lori
Thanks, Barry, but I don't need magnifying.  My only vision problem is glare
from a white or light background.
I can work long days with white on black, and no eyestrain or headaches.  I
really recommend it.
Lori 

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:38:18 -0400
From: Barry Smith bnsmith...@gmail.com
To: Lee lbray5...@bellsouth.net
Cc: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Old Eyes
Message-ID:
cacg4shkyo6ugweyc1tnuxnhkfhyzu9uwz5b22-f1kgokfwk...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I am not an official seamonkey contact, just a user like you.

Your operating system should have a magnification tool that should magnify
everything.

I know that Windows and Ubuntu (and even iOS) all have some screen
magnifying glass tool, that allows you to magnify sections of the screen.
 Using the OS magnification tool should allow you to leave the magnify on
the body of the email at default size.

There are also audio screen readers that let you rest your eyes a little
bit. ;)

Best of luck in your computer adventure.



On Friday, May 17, 2013, Lee wrote:

 Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
 it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
 for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
 incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
 and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
 than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
 there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
 to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
 18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
 am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
 body of the msg!  Thanks!
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