Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
On 23/09/2013 09:01, Ed Mullen wrote: > Philip Taylor wrote: >> >> >> Philip Taylor wrote: >> >>> I have 2.17.1 on all VMs except my VPN one, which is currently on 2.19; >>> I will update this to 2.21. and compare the two status bars >>> to see if I can see any difference. >> >> I can't /see/ any difference, but that does not mean that they are >> not displayed using modified code that exposes them to the Windows >> screenreader API whereas before they were concealed. >> >> Philip Taylor >> > > I think it's either user error and/or the update. But my update didn't > change my program's behavior: Showing. > > They have always been there, going back to Netscape, unless you turn > them off (View - Show/Hide - Status Bar). I think the actual question is why did his screen reader suddenly notice these and started reading them out? Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
On 23/09/2013 00:10, David Goldfield wrote: > Is there a way to remove the buttons near the status area for items such > as composer, browser, address book, etc? > They're new with Sm2.21. They've been there at least since Mozilla Suite 1.7 Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
Philip Taylor wrote: Philip Taylor wrote: I have 2.17.1 on all VMs except my VPN one, which is currently on 2.19; I will update this to 2.21. and compare the two status bars to see if I can see any difference. I can't /see/ any difference, but that does not mean that they are not displayed using modified code that exposes them to the Windows screenreader API whereas before they were concealed. Philip Taylor I think it's either user error and/or the update. But my update didn't change my program's behavior: Showing. They have always been there, going back to Netscape, unless you turn them off (View - Show/Hide - Status Bar). -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ A dyslexic man walked into a bra ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
Ed Mullen wrote: David Goldfield wrote: On 9/22/2013 1:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: David Goldfield wrote: Is there a way to remove the buttons near the status area for items such as composer, browser, address book, etc? They're new with Sm2.21. They've always been there. OK, I'll take your word for that. Did the actual position of these buttons change? I'm using a screen reader which has a hotkey to speak the contents of the status line. Ever since I installed SM2.21 I'm hearing these buttons prior to the amount of read and unread messages, and in previous versions of SM I only heard a message count, so it's a bit annoying. They been in the lower left probably since Netscape back in the 90s. Not sure why your screenreader is suddenly changed. Geez. "They have been ..." Sigh, figers ahead of brain. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ A dyslexic man walked into a bra ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
Philip, Thank you very much for giving me some visual info about 2.21. I'm going to try 2.21 with NVDA 2013.1, which is the previous release. It should be easy to locate on Sourceforge. I have, however, used 2013.2, the current version, with SM2.20 and the status line was read properly. Still, I'll file a ticket with them and see if they can look into it, but I'm fairly certain it's something which changed with Seamonkey's email client. Thank you again. On 9/22/2013 2:22 PM, Philip Taylor wrote: Philip Taylor wrote: I have 2.17.1 on all VMs except my VPN one, which is currently on 2.19; I will update this to 2.21. and compare the two status bars to see if I can see any difference. I can't /see/ any difference, but that does not mean that they are not displayed using modified code that exposes them to the Windows screenreader API whereas before they were concealed. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 crashes on trying to subscribe to a newsgroup
Philip Chee schreef: On 22/09/2013 16:30, Zanqeutil wrote: Seamonkey 2.21 crashes on trying to subscribe to a newsgroup Windows XP Pro SP3 Useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 - Buildnaam: 20130916112225 Seamonkey crashes after the first letter is typed in the search box and sends an error report. Manage Newsgroup Subscriptions. Open search box. Type in the first letter(s) of a search string. SM freezes, hourglass appears and after that a hard crash. Crash Reason: EXCEPTION_STACK_OVERFLOW Crash report: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8705916d-fa6e-45ac-9824-836df2130921 Seems to be a known bug and is reported with TB 24. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918346 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=917955 I suspect Bug 872497 ( O(n^2) performance in NS_QuickSort) http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aad29aa89237 Phil Thanks Phil, I'm not a programmer, so the code I see when I click your link means nothing to me. Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
Philip Taylor wrote: > I have 2.17.1 on all VMs except my VPN one, which is currently on 2.19; > I will update this to 2.21. and compare the two status bars > to see if I can see any difference. I can't /see/ any difference, but that does not mean that they are not displayed using modified code that exposes them to the Windows screenreader API whereas before they were concealed. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
David Goldfield wrote: >> OK, I'll take your word for that. Did the actual position of these >> buttons change? I'm using a screen reader which has a hotkey to speak >> the contents of the status line. Ever since I installed SM2.21 I'm >> hearing these buttons prior to the amount of read and unread messages, >> and in previous versions of SM I only heard a message count, so it's a >> bit annoying. I have 2.17.1 on all VMs except my VPN one, which is currently on 2.19; I will update this to 2.21. and compare the two status bars to see if I can see any difference. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
David Goldfield wrote: On 9/22/2013 1:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: David Goldfield wrote: Is there a way to remove the buttons near the status area for items such as composer, browser, address book, etc? They're new with Sm2.21. They've always been there. OK, I'll take your word for that. Did the actual position of these buttons change? I'm using a screen reader which has a hotkey to speak the contents of the status line. Ever since I installed SM2.21 I'm hearing these buttons prior to the amount of read and unread messages, and in previous versions of SM I only heard a message count, so it's a bit annoying. They been in the lower left probably since Netscape back in the 90s. Not sure why your screenreader is suddenly changed. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ It is bad luck to be superstitious. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
On 9/22/2013 1:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: David Goldfield wrote: Is there a way to remove the buttons near the status area for items such as composer, browser, address book, etc? They're new with Sm2.21. They've always been there. OK, I'll take your word for that. Did the actual position of these buttons change? I'm using a screen reader which has a hotkey to speak the contents of the status line. Ever since I installed SM2.21 I'm hearing these buttons prior to the amount of read and unread messages, and in previous versions of SM I only heard a message count, so it's a bit annoying. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
David Goldfield wrote: Is there a way to remove the buttons near the status area for items such as composer, browser, address book, etc? They're new with Sm2.21. They've always been there. View - Show/Hide - Status bar -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows taskbar
I am not too fond of this new behaviour either, so I checked about:config and found two related settings: the boolean browser.taskbar.previews.enable the integer browser.taskbar.previews.max HTH andrewjro...@gmail.com wrote, On 2013-09-21 01:21: Since the latest upgrade Seamonkey now supports the Win7 taskbar properly (ie it now has the grouping ability for it's own tabs), which is a shame as it sucks. I don't want to have to click on the taskbar shortcut then choose a tab as the tab I want is usually the one I was looking at when I minimised the window. Is theer a way to turn that bug (feature) off? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is There a Way to Remove the Buttons from the Status Area in Sm2.21
Is there a way to remove the buttons near the status area for items such as composer, browser, address book, etc? They're new with Sm2.21. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 crashes on trying to subscribe to a newsgroup
On 22/09/2013 16:30, Zanqeutil wrote: > Seamonkey 2.21 crashes on trying to subscribe to a newsgroup > > Windows XP Pro SP3 > > Useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 > Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 - Buildnaam: 20130916112225 > > Seamonkey crashes after the first letter is typed in the search box and > sends an error report. Manage Newsgroup Subscriptions. Open search box. > Type in the first letter(s) of a search string. SM freezes, hourglass > appears and after that a hard crash. > > Crash Reason: EXCEPTION_STACK_OVERFLOW > > Crash report: > > https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8705916d-fa6e-45ac-9824-836df2130921 > > Seems to be a known bug and is reported with TB 24. > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918346 > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=917955 I suspect Bug 872497 ( O(n^2) performance in NS_QuickSort) http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aad29aa89237 Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: strange happenings after installing 2.21
Roger Fink wrote: Original Message Roger Fink wrote: Original Message Roger Fink wrote: After I upgraded from 2.20 to 2.21 two major changes occurred, as follows: SeaMonkey 2.20 was not noted as being uninstalled. I had to go back and uninstall 2.20 from add/remove. 2.21 now starts from the following location: C:\Users\rff\AppData\Local\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe. There is NOTHING in the program files folder except for a plugins folder with plugins in it. The installation of 2.21 was the normal overinstall, like we've all done dozens of times. I can't believe this is by design, but I'd like someone to verify that. btw, the browser seems to work normally and the settings and customizations from 2.20 were carried forward successfully. Roger, when you type "The installation of 2.21 was the normal overinstall", do you mean that you did an update to go from 2.20 to 2.21?? If so, the that files of your 2.20 install were modified as required to become 2.21, but in the same location as 2.20, so when you thought you were uninstalling 2.20, you were actually uninstalling 2.21. Things are OK now because because the uninstaller knew where to find SeaMonkey.exe v. 2.21 in the profile. So everything was uninstalled except for the custom settings, which were in the proper location (the profile) to begin with. I'm not sure if this was part of your question, but the upgrade was an offline installation, which I should have noted. I'm not sure what happened, but with computers I'm fine with trading a lack of insight into the problem for a successful outcome, as was the case here. Good to see you've got things going as you want, Roger. Just for my interest, could you tell me what version of SeaMonkey you see listed in your Add/Remove Programs listing? V. 2.21 is listed in add-remove. Initially both versions were listed. O.K., so you should be right in future. :-) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: strange happenings after installing 2.21
Original Message Roger Fink wrote: Original Message Roger Fink wrote: After I upgraded from 2.20 to 2.21 two major changes occurred, as follows: SeaMonkey 2.20 was not noted as being uninstalled. I had to go back and uninstall 2.20 from add/remove. 2.21 now starts from the following location: C:\Users\rff\AppData\Local\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe. There is NOTHING in the program files folder except for a plugins folder with plugins in it. The installation of 2.21 was the normal overinstall, like we've all done dozens of times. I can't believe this is by design, but I'd like someone to verify that. btw, the browser seems to work normally and the settings and customizations from 2.20 were carried forward successfully. Roger, when you type "The installation of 2.21 was the normal overinstall", do you mean that you did an update to go from 2.20 to 2.21?? If so, the that files of your 2.20 install were modified as required to become 2.21, but in the same location as 2.20, so when you thought you were uninstalling 2.20, you were actually uninstalling 2.21. Things are OK now because because the uninstaller knew where to find SeaMonkey.exe v. 2.21 in the profile. So everything was uninstalled except for the custom settings, which were in the proper location (the profile) to begin with. I'm not sure if this was part of your question, but the upgrade was an offline installation, which I should have noted. I'm not sure what happened, but with computers I'm fine with trading a lack of insight into the problem for a successful outcome, as was the case here. Good to see you've got things going as you want, Roger. Just for my interest, could you tell me what version of SeaMonkey you see listed in your Add/Remove Programs listing? V. 2.21 is listed in add-remove. Initially both versions were listed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.21 is a major mess!
On 9/22/2013 1:54 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: Desiree wrote: I just upgraded to 2.21 from 2.20 on Windows 8 Pro. I lost ALL mail (already posted here about that). SeaMonkey is minimized to the Taskbar and when I try to maximize it, it behaves very weirdly. It shows the tabs in a vertical transparent list. I can't maximize it. It is COMPLETELY UNUSABLE AFTER MINIMIZING TO TASKBAR. It works normally as long as I don't minimize it (or open Mail window as then I cannot later go to SeaMonkey tabs window). Once minimized, it is crippled. I don't know how to describe it. Is there a way to upload screenshots here? Upload to Picasaweb and post URLs. No idea what is causing your 2.21 problems (staying at 2.17.1 here until font size issue is addressed), but try completely removing Flash if installed. Philip Taylor Screenshots are here: http://smoky20.imgur.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: strange happenings after installing 2.21
Roger Fink wrote: Original Message Roger Fink wrote: After I upgraded from 2.20 to 2.21 two major changes occurred, as follows: SeaMonkey 2.20 was not noted as being uninstalled. I had to go back and uninstall 2.20 from add/remove. 2.21 now starts from the following location: C:\Users\rff\AppData\Local\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe. There is NOTHING in the program files folder except for a plugins folder with plugins in it. The installation of 2.21 was the normal overinstall, like we've all done dozens of times. I can't believe this is by design, but I'd like someone to verify that. btw, the browser seems to work normally and the settings and customizations from 2.20 were carried forward successfully. Roger, when you type "The installation of 2.21 was the normal overinstall", do you mean that you did an update to go from 2.20 to 2.21?? If so, the that files of your 2.20 install were modified as required to become 2.21, but in the same location as 2.20, so when you thought you were uninstalling 2.20, you were actually uninstalling 2.21. Things are OK now because because the uninstaller knew where to find SeaMonkey.exe v. 2.21 in the profile. So everything was uninstalled except for the custom settings, which were in the proper location (the profile) to begin with. I'm not sure if this was part of your question, but the upgrade was an offline installation, which I should have noted. I'm not sure what happened, but with computers I'm fine with trading a lack of insight into the problem for a successful outcome, as was the case here. Good to see you've got things going as you want, Roger. Just for my interest, could you tell me what version of SeaMonkey you see listed in your Add/Remove Programs listing? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Build identifier: 20130827183508 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.21 on Ubuntu
It just showed up in the Ubuntuzilla repository today. As usual, it installed just fine, no new issues to report. Excellent job, team! I see the mouse pointer "Waiting" issue in the news/mail view is still unresolved, but that's nothing new. Thanks again and keep up the good work. -- Jaime A. Cruz Secretary Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.21 is a major mess!
Desiree wrote: > I just upgraded to 2.21 from 2.20 on Windows 8 Pro. I lost ALL mail > (already posted here about that). > > SeaMonkey is minimized to the Taskbar and when I try to maximize it, it > behaves very weirdly. It shows the tabs in a vertical transparent list. > I can't maximize it. > > It is COMPLETELY UNUSABLE AFTER MINIMIZING TO TASKBAR. It works > normally as long as I don't minimize it (or open Mail window as then I > cannot later go to SeaMonkey tabs window). Once minimized, it is > crippled. I don't know how to describe it. Is there a way to upload > screenshots here? Upload to Picasaweb and post URLs. No idea what is causing your 2.21 problems (staying at 2.17.1 here until font size issue is addressed), but try completely removing Flash if installed. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.21 is a major mess!
I just upgraded to 2.21 from 2.20 on Windows 8 Pro. I lost ALL mail (already posted here about that). SeaMonkey is minimized to the Taskbar and when I try to maximize it, it behaves very weirdly. It shows the tabs in a vertical transparent list. I can't maximize it. It is COMPLETELY UNUSABLE AFTER MINIMIZING TO TASKBAR. It works normally as long as I don't minimize it (or open Mail window as then I cannot later go to SeaMonkey tabs window). Once minimized, it is crippled. I don't know how to describe it. Is there a way to upload screenshots here? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Mail gone after upgrade to 2.21
Mail is all MISSING except "new" download of mail on server from Sept 18 to now. Mail from the last few days is not "new" as it was already in SeaMonkey mail 2.20. Thank goodness, I also use Thunderbird and Opera mail so it is not really missing except in SeaMonkey. I just upgraded to 2.21. I only have one email address set up in SeaMonkey but it is the one I use the most. All mail before Sept 18 is not there. This is on Windows 8 Pro. I'm afraid to also upgrade SeaMonkey 2.20 on my XP Pro machine as I might lose the mail there also. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.21 crashes on trying to subscribe to a newsgroup
Seamonkey 2.21 crashes on trying to subscribe to a newsgroup Windows XP Pro SP3 Useragent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 - Buildnaam: 20130916112225 Seamonkey crashes after the first letter is typed in the search box and sends an error report. Manage Newsgroup Subscriptions. Open search box. Type in the first letter(s) of a search string. SM freezes, hourglass appears and after that a hard crash. Crash Reason: EXCEPTION_STACK_OVERFLOW Crash report: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8705916d-fa6e-45ac-9824-836df2130921 Seems to be a known bug and is reported with TB 24. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918346 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=917955 Zanqeutil. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
