Re: new seamonkey fan with questions

[Jonathan N. Little]

Luis Carlos wrote:

Well, thank you. I need someone to assist in installing a package and /
or a program, since i'm new to Linux.


Well to install SeaMonkey either you or get someone to assist you to 
paste the following 4 lines in a terminal window:


echo -e "deb
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all
main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntuzilla.list > /dev/null

sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com C1289A29

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install seamonkey-mozilla-build

And SeaMonkey will be installed with the PPA so it will update for you 
when new versions are available.


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Re: new seamonkey fan with questions

[Luis Carlos]

Jonathan N. Little escribió:
> Luis Carlos wrote:
>> Jonathan N. Little escribió:
>
> 
>
>>>
>>>
>> O My God, but I don't have Ubuntu in this computer, I have installed it
>> but I here no speech, cause I don't have a screen reader?
>
> I am confused, what distro are you talking about? Vinux is supposedly
> just Ubuntu tweaked for the visually impaired. Whether Vinux or Ubuntu
> you will be using the Debian deb package system and the Ubuntu
> repositories will work for you. You have a screen reader, it is
> installed by default on most, (probably all), Ubuntu variants and it
> is the app Orca.
>
>
>> And I don't have UbuntuZilla, and I can't install something, because I
>> can't use a command promt all the time to install it, cause i'm a blind
>> user on SeaMonkey.
>
> Ok. You don't have UbuntuZilla because you need to install the PPA
> that extends the repositories to include this user maintained one
> which adds access to SeaMonkey installer. I am an old command line
> junkie so I am not familiar with GUI tools to do it. Maybe you can get
> someone to to assist you.
>
>> Sorry for ignoring newsgroups because my account is only for Mail use.
>> Help me!
>>
>
> Ignoring newsgroups? What you did was post to both the group and to
> me. You should just post to the group, that way the discussion could
> help someone else with the same issue.
>
Well, thank you. I need someone to assist in installing a package and /
or a program, since i'm new to Linux.
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Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

[WaltS48]

On 01/31/2015 06:12 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.
 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.
 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.
 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.
 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.

So, how exactly does autofill work in 2.32? One of the above, or
something else entirely?

Yes, I know about the problem extension to save passwords. Yes, various
sites use "username" or "login" or other terms; all refer to the first
entry upon logging in.

Thank you for any insights or advice you might give me.

Larry S.
(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)



I am still on SeaMonkey 2.31, and it isn't my default browser so I don't have 
many usernames or passwords saved.

I went to the mozillaZine site. Entered my username and password, clicked the 
Login button and was presented with this warning.

http://imgur.com/SGz9nUa

Clicking continue in that warning logged me in, but I wasn't asked to save the 
information. Proving #1 for that site.

I went to my other news servers web site which I have a L/I and P/W saved in 
SeaMonkey. It did not autofill the password when I entered the user name. I was 
asked if I wanted to save this information, which I did.

That disproves #1 and confirms #2

Removed the old Password Manager entry, restarted SeaMonkey, went to the site, 
clicked the User login link and the data was autofilled.

Confirming #4 for that site.


My Verizon login works.

Disproving #5 for that site.

I'm done testing. It is all too confusing for me.

Switch to Firefox and install the Secure Login extension.

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Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.


Well I know that is not true. Just set one with 2.32


 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.


Dito not so, WFM. If you have more than one userid/password saved for 
the same domain you will need to start typing the userid for the correct 
password to be autofilled.




 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.


Not what I see.


 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.


Yes.


 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.


Maybe so, sounds like and extended login used by financial websites. If, 
so you'd be crazy to autofill logins to anything connected to your money 
IMO. It is the one area you should never, ever, auto login. Use a good 
*unique* password for each and always manually enter your credentials.






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Missing out on security patches here...

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SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

[Larry S.]

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me), 
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem 
affects me.


I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this 
group over recent weeks:

1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.
	2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill 
either one where needed.

3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.
4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.
	5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a 
second page.


So, how exactly does autofill work in 2.32? One of the above, or 
something else entirely?


Yes, I know about the problem extension to save passwords. Yes, various 
sites use "username" or "login" or other terms; all refer to the first 
entry upon logging in.


Thank you for any insights or advice you might give me.

Larry S.
(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)

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Re: new topic : Does you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning calendar, ?????

[EE]

Alex Beauroy wrote:

new topic : Does  you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning
calendar, ?
IRC ChatZilla ???
@lex


None of the above.  I just use the browser and email/newsgroup reader.

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Re: memory-report.json.gz? (v2.32 in Windows XP SP3 only?)

[Ant]

On 1/31/2015 12:30 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


Maybe I should use SeaMonkey for a week and see if I get any generated
memory-report.json.gz files.

Problem with that is I don't have WindowsXP, and SeaMonkey has not
updated to 2.32 yet. Thank you openSUSE for your timely updates.


Yeah, the issue started after I upgraded SM to v2.32. I have SM in my 
Debian/Linux backup desktop box, but I rarely use it. I never saw it on 
my office's 64-bit W7 EE SP1 machine though.

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Re: memory-report.json.gz?

[WaltS48]

On 01/31/2015 02:59 PM, Ant wrote:

Is anyone else getting this memory-report.json.gz file in their
local
SeaMonkey v2.32 profile directory/folder? Or just me on this very
old,
updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine?


Nope, not here.


Nope.(xp pro sp3 ff ESR25.4.0)


Nope, not me on Linux with shared profile on Win7!!


Strange. I wonder where that file came from. I deleted it and nothing
wrong.


It comes from clicking the "Measure and save..." button under the Save
Memory Reports heading of about:memory.

A pop-up dialog box asking you where you want to save the file and
allows the user to rename it before saving.

I have no idea how yours are being automatically generated.


Yeah, I wonder if something else is causing it automatically like an
extension. It's difficult/hard to reproduce since it seems to be rare
(only saw it thrice ever since I upgraded to v2.32). Here is my current
updated extension list:

Last updated: Sat Jan 31 2015 11:57:45 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32

Extensions (enabled: 7)
* Adblock Plus 2.6.7 (http://adblockplus.org/en/)
* British English Dictionary 1.19.1
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/british-english-dictionary/?src=api)

* ColorfulTabs 18.1
(http://www.binaryturf.com/free-software/colorfultabs-for-firefox/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.15 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* IE View 1.5.6 (http://ieview.roub.net/)
* PrefBar 6.5.0 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* WOT 20131030 (http://www.mywot.com/)

And guess what? I saw a new memory-report.json.gz file dated 1/31/2015
8:56 AM PST (just woke up and started using my old Windows XP Pro SP3
computer). I did notice that my SM can get very slow (hogging too much
CPU and memories to force me to exit or end task the huge seamonkey.exe
process). I wonder if that is causing this file to appear. Hmm! I will
have to watch its patterns some more. I am surprised no one else has
this problem. FYI, I have SeaMonkey up almost all the time when I am
using the Internet even when AFK and idling.



Maybe I should use SeaMonkey for a week and see if I get any generated 
memory-report.json.gz files.

Problem with that is I don't have WindowsXP, and SeaMonkey has not updated to 
2.32 yet. Thank you openSUSE for your timely updates.
 
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Re: Exporting and importing *.mab to iOS' contacts?

[Ant]

What's the best way to export SM's addressbooks' datas to iOS v8.x's
Contacts locally (no cloud!)?


Depends on what iOS v8.x Contacts and import...but I would assume the
CSV or TSV options would work.


In iOS v8.1.3 on an iPad Air, Contacts has no import option.


Somehow I am not surprised.


In a
MacBook Pro with its updated Mac OS X v10.8.5, it has an import option
but it shows encodings (automatic or manually).


Encodings character set?


Yep. I was expecting file format types (e.g., extensions). :D



No specific file type
formats. Maybe raw text file from SM's addressbook exports would work?


CSV or TSV. Just text files with data in flatfile format. CSV comma
separated values or TSV where the values (fields) are separated with tabs.

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Re: memory-report.json.gz?

[Ant]

Is anyone else getting this memory-report.json.gz file in their local
SeaMonkey v2.32 profile directory/folder? Or just me on this very
old,
updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine?


Nope, not here.


Nope.(xp pro sp3 ff ESR25.4.0)


Nope, not me on Linux with shared profile on Win7!!


Strange. I wonder where that file came from. I deleted it and nothing
wrong.


It comes from clicking the "Measure and save..." button under the Save
Memory Reports heading of about:memory.

A pop-up dialog box asking you where you want to save the file and
allows the user to rename it before saving.

I have no idea how yours are being automatically generated.


Yeah, I wonder if something else is causing it automatically like an 
extension. It's difficult/hard to reproduce since it seems to be rare 
(only saw it thrice ever since I upgraded to v2.32). Here is my current 
updated extension list:


Last updated: Sat Jan 31 2015 11:57:45 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32


Extensions (enabled: 7)
* Adblock Plus 2.6.7 (http://adblockplus.org/en/)
* British English Dictionary 1.19.1 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/british-english-dictionary/?src=api)
* ColorfulTabs 18.1 
(http://www.binaryturf.com/free-software/colorfultabs-for-firefox/)

* DOM Inspector 2.0.15 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* IE View 1.5.6 (http://ieview.roub.net/)
* PrefBar 6.5.0 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* WOT 20131030 (http://www.mywot.com/)

And guess what? I saw a new memory-report.json.gz file dated 1/31/2015 
8:56 AM PST (just woke up and started using my old Windows XP Pro SP3 
computer). I did notice that my SM can get very slow (hogging too much 
CPU and memories to force me to exit or end task the huge seamonkey.exe 
process). I wonder if that is causing this file to appear. Hmm! I will 
have to watch its patterns some more. I am surprised no one else has 
this problem. FYI, I have SeaMonkey up almost all the time when I am 
using the Internet even when AFK and idling.

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Re: Exporting and importing *.mab to iOS' contacts?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:

On 1/31/2015 8:18 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


What's the best way to export SM's addressbooks' datas to iOS v8.x's
Contacts locally (no cloud!)?


Depends on what iOS v8.x Contacts and import...but I would assume the
CSV or TSV options would work.


In iOS v8.1.3 on an iPad Air, Contacts has no import option.


Somehow I am not surprised.


In a
MacBook Pro with its updated Mac OS X v10.8.5, it has an import option
but it shows encodings (automatic or manually).


Encodings character set?


No specific file type
formats. Maybe raw text file from SM's addressbook exports would work?


CSV or TSV. Just text files with data in flatfile format. CSV comma 
separated values or TSV where the values (fields) are separated with tabs.


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Re: memory-report.json.gz?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:


I also use Mac OS X (v10.5.8 and v10.8.5) and Linux (Debian stable). As
you can see, I use old stuff.


My XP laptop now runs Ubuntu 14.04. I would not use XP on an open network.

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Re: memory-report.json.gz?

[WaltS48]

On 01/23/2015 05:33 PM, Ant wrote:

On 1/22/2015 4:29 PM, Daniel wrote:


Is anyone else getting this memory-report.json.gz file in their local
SeaMonkey v2.32 profile directory/folder? Or just me on this very old,
updated Windows XP Pro SP3 machine?

Thank you in advance. :)


Nope, not here.


Nope.(xp pro sp3 ff ESR25.4.0)


Nope, not me on Linux with shared profile on Win7!!


Strange. I wonder where that file came from. I deleted it and nothing
wrong.



It comes from clicking the "Measure and save..." button under the Save Memory 
Reports heading of about:memory.

A pop-up dialog box asking you where you want to save the file and allows the 
user to rename it before saving.

I have no idea how yours are being automatically generated.

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Re: Exporting and importing *.mab to iOS' contacts?

[Ant]

On 1/31/2015 8:18 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


What's the best way to export SM's addressbooks' datas to iOS v8.x's
Contacts locally (no cloud!)?


Depends on what iOS v8.x Contacts and import...but I would assume the
CSV or TSV options would work.


In iOS v8.1.3 on an iPad Air, Contacts has no import option. In a 
MacBook Pro with its updated Mac OS X v10.8.5, it has an import option 
but it shows encodings (automatic or manually). No specific file type 
formats. Maybe raw text file from SM's addressbook exports would work?

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Re: memory-report.json.gz?

[Ant]

updated Windows XP Pro SP3's Explorer,


Sorry but that is an oxymoron.


How so?


You're joking, right?


No.


Well it's not funny.

1) The OS is not longer patched* so unless you believe in the fantasy
that software can be created without a bug then you are vulnerable at
the OS level.


Oh, I meant with all the updates from years ago. Basically, updated as 
much as it can be. I do have other non-MS addons to secure it. I don't 
game and do anything fancy on it. I still and rarely use OpenOffice 
(LibreOffice doesn't start for who knows why and none of the LO people 
could figure it out), MS Office 2000 SR-3, etc. on it.




2) Explorer as an OS-component which added an extra level of
vulnerability and since WinXpSP3 capped at IE8 sans the security
features of IE11 the term "updated" means little in this aspect. I
certainly would not use IE on a WinXpSP3 machine.


Um, I wasn't referring to Internet Explorer (v8) web browser 
(iexplore.exe). I rarely even use IE8. I was referring to explorer.exe, 
the file manager.




3) MS really-really-really wants XP to die. They want new $$, If they
can pressure industry to kill rivals like Linux when netbooks started to
gain traction then you can bet you bottom dollar that addon security
software for XP will soon dry up. And by its nature with Windows
security software is a MUST for security.


I also use Mac OS X (v10.5.8 and v10.8.5) and Linux (Debian stable). As 
you can see, I use old stuff.




*Unless you are one of those old crusty corporations chained to <=MSIE6
activeX infrastructure and are paying the BIG bucks for "super-special"
extended support then "updated" means very little with respect to
Windows XP Pro SP3. I would not recommend connecting a Windows XP Pro
SP3 machine to a public network, i.e., the Internet.


I have non-MS security programs like Outpost 2009 Firewall, 
SuperAntiSpyware, MalwareBytes AntiMalware, Spybot S&D, etc. installed.

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Re: Exporting and importing *.mab to iOS' contacts?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:

What's the best way to export SM's addressbooks' datas to iOS v8.x's
Contacts locally (no cloud!)?


Depends on what iOS v8.x Contacts and import...but I would assume the 
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Re: memory-report.json.gz?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:

On 1/30/2015 8:06 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 1/30/2015 12:18 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


updated Windows XP Pro SP3's Explorer,


Sorry but that is an oxymoron.


How so?


You're joking, right?


No.


Well it's not funny.

1) The OS is not longer patched* so unless you believe in the fantasy 
that software can be created without a bug then you are vulnerable at 
the OS level.


2) Explorer as an OS-component which added an extra level of 
vulnerability and since WinXpSP3 capped at IE8 sans the security 
features of IE11 the term "updated" means little in this aspect. I 
certainly would not use IE on a WinXpSP3 machine.


3) MS really-really-really wants XP to die. They want new $$, If they 
can pressure industry to kill rivals like Linux when netbooks started to 
gain traction then you can bet you bottom dollar that addon security 
software for XP will soon dry up. And by its nature with Windows 
security software is a MUST for security.


*Unless you are one of those old crusty corporations chained to <=MSIE6 
activeX infrastructure and are paying the BIG bucks for "super-special" 
extended support then "updated" means very little with respect to 
Windows XP Pro SP3. I would not recommend connecting a Windows XP Pro 
SP3 machine to a public network, i.e., the Internet.


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Re: allowing flash player

[Jonathan N. Little]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Gerd Schweizer wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:


You can test here, and if you pass, your installation is current and you
can ignore the scams:

Test Adobe Flash:


Test Shockwave:



Thank You, it's current



I'm seeing something a bit strange here.  Looking at about:plugins in
SeaMonkey I see:

Shockwave Flash

 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.438
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Yet when I look in the package manager I see it shows as 11.2.202.440,
which is the current release per Adobe.  If I look at the file noted in
the path above I see the 11.2.202.440 string in it too, so why is
SeaMonkey reporting an older, vulnerable version?

The time stamp on the file shows 2015/01/23 18:16, so it is possible
that SeaMonkey has not been restarted since before it was installed.  Is
there a way I can get SeaMonkey to reload plugins/add-ins short of a
shutdown/restart?


Adobe pulled the plug on the Linux version of Flash. They still patch 
that version for security bugs but that is it. Maybe Flash will finally 
die as industry moves towards HTML 5.




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Re: new seamonkey fan with questions

[Jonathan N. Little]

Luis Carlos wrote:

Jonathan N. Little escribió:








O My God, but I don't have Ubuntu in this computer, I have installed it
but I here no speech, cause I don't have a screen reader?


I am confused, what distro are you talking about? Vinux is supposedly 
just Ubuntu tweaked for the visually impaired. Whether Vinux or Ubuntu 
you will be using the Debian deb package system and the Ubuntu 
repositories will work for you. You have a screen reader, it is 
installed by default on most, (probably all), Ubuntu variants and it is 
the app Orca.




And I don't have UbuntuZilla, and I can't install something, because I
can't use a command promt all the time to install it, cause i'm a blind
user on SeaMonkey.


Ok. You don't have UbuntuZilla because you need to install the PPA that 
extends the repositories to include this user maintained one which adds 
access to SeaMonkey installer. I am an old command line junkie so I am 
not familiar with GUI tools to do it. Maybe you can get someone to to 
assist you.



Sorry for ignoring newsgroups because my account is only for Mail use.
Help me!



Ignoring newsgroups? What you did was post to both the group and to me. 
You should just post to the group, that way the discussion could help 
someone else with the same issue.


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Re: Dial-up internet

[Lee]

On 1/30/15, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 01/30/2015 05:39 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>> Yes, we know there's still a population out there on dial-up. You
>>> should also use TCPOptimizer 3.0.8 (it's Free) to squeeze out a little
>>> bit more oomph from that old dial-up connection. Used to work well for
>>> me back in the day.
>>
>> A link to author's site please.
>> A Google search turns up multiple "greatest thing since sliced bread"
>> reviews.
>> What say author(s)?
>> TIA
>
>
> "The program can aid both the novice and the advanced user in tweaking
> related TCP/IP parameters in Windows, making it easy to tune your system to
> the type of Internet connection used."
>
> 

I looked at it a long time ago -- back when WinXP was all shiny & new.
It was useful if you had a broadband connection; the default 16KB tcp
window size wasn't large enough for even a 10Mb connection & most
people would rather use a GUI than regedit to make registry changes.

But for dialup, a 16KB tcp window is plenty enough.  And starting with
Vista, MS made the tcp stack auto-tuning so there are no big gains to
be had using one of those tcp optimizer programs on a currently
supported Windows OS.  (in other words, if the OP still has XP it
might help on the library wireless connection)

So don't expect much from optimizing a dial-up connection, but it
could help a bit if selective acks or path mtu discovery aren't
already enabled.

Regards,
Lee
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Re: new topic : Does you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning calendar, ?????

[Ronnie]

I have Lightning with Lightbird installed, i use the email client which 
is actually quite good, been trying to use chatzilla which could be 
better. Haven't tried the address book yet, and composer will be nice to 
alter simple stuff or check for the right code to use types of situations.


Alex Beauroy wrote:
new topic : Does  you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning 
calendar, ?

IRC ChatZilla ???
@lex
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Re: new topic : Does you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning calendar, ?????

[WaltS48]

On 01/31/2015 07:54 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

new topic : Does  you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning
calendar, ?
IRC ChatZilla ???
@lex



I have Lightning installed in my SeaMonkey.

Don't use Composer or ChatZilla.

I do use chat in Thunderbird.

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new topic : Does you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning calendar, ?????

[Alex Beauroy]

new topic : Does  you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning 
calendar, ?

IRC ChatZilla ???
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Re: Manual junk marking opens message pane by itself

[Rubens]

EE wrote on 29/1/2015 23:12:

Rubens wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 28/10/2014 23:01:

Allen wrote:

  I have been frustrated by this for quite a while, hoping that it would
go away during some future release.  All of my computers behave the
same: my personal machine (Win 7), the office accounting machine (win 7)
and the computer in the shop (Win XP).  This is what I observe:

Configuration-- In Layout -->>  classic view selected thread pane and
folder pane selected, message pane deselected.  I like this
configuration for the sake of security because I can easily go through
the listing and delete things I am not interested in or tag them as junk
without the message being rendered or processed.  Perhaps I'm just
fooling myself.

When you tag a message in the inbox as junk, the message pane opens up
unexpectedly and stays operational thereafter.  In order to get back to
the desired configuration, you have to select Layout/view message pane
(to turn it on even though it is ON)and then toggle it off to get it
off.  Or, you must play with the little control widget on the pane to
first turn it on (duh, it's on already!) and then turn it off.

Its not such a big thing that deserves a temper tantrum.  But it needs
attention someday.


I also see this on SeaMonkey 2.26.1 on Windows Vista, although I don't
usually use SeaMonkey's junk filtering (just tried it to check).

Look similar to:
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986874
although that seems to confuse two related issues. The first (message
pane opens on selecting a message already marked as junk) I don't see,
but next comment on the bug mentions this issue (message pane opens on
marking a non-junk message as junk). Might be worth reporting this one
as a separate issue so it doesn't get closed when the first is
confirmed fixed?

Mark.



I am the original reporter for this bug.

As its behaviour has slightly changed over the latest Seamonkey
versions, I have just updated
the bug title and put an extra comment.

But just for clarification here, the current behaviour is:

1- Select a message in the messages list (but do not open it).

2- Click on the "Junk" icon to mark it as such.

3- The message panel opens (even when it is not configured to do so)

4- That panel comes blank, showing only a yellow bar on the top saying
 "Seamonkey thinks this message is junk".

I hope this bug be solved soon and does not complete its anniversary two
months from now:))


Rubens.




It is not that big a deal, however.  I only have to click the grippy in the 
partition to make it go away.



Sure. But as that was working before and has been broken in the latest versions,
I believed it shoud be fixed.
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Re: allowing flash player

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:


I'm seeing something a bit strange here.  Looking at about:plugins in
SeaMonkey I see:

Shockwave Flash

 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.438
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Yet when I look in the package manager I see it shows as 11.2.202.440,
which is the current release per Adobe.  If I look at the file noted in
the path above I see the 11.2.202.440 string in it too, so why is
SeaMonkey reporting an older, vulnerable version?

The time stamp on the file shows 2015/01/23 18:16, so it is possible
that SeaMonkey has not been restarted since before it was installed.  Is
there a way I can get SeaMonkey to reload plugins/add-ins short of a
shutdown/restart?


AFAICT the most current version is 16.0.0.296. But I'm on Windows 7, not
Linux. Useful links here:



I thought that version looked rather old as well. But this page (from 
Adobe) lists current versions for each OS and browser:

  https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
and indeed for Mozilla on Linux, the latest is 11.2.202.440.

There shouldn't be any need to restart the whole OS. At worst, 
restarting SeaMonkey should be sufficient to reload any plugins. A 
couple of things which may be worth trying:
- Close all pages using Flash; maybe the plugin would be unloaded and 
then reloaded next time you open a page which needs it..
- Disable Flash from the Add-ons Manager, then re-enable it; again, 
maybe that will force a reload.


I'm no expert on Linux, but I think most Linux filesystems allow a file 
which is in use (e.g. the Flash plugin in use by SeaMonkey) to be 
overwritten (e.g. by the Flash updater), while the application already 
using it keeps its handle on the original file. So looking at the file 
with any other tool will see the new version, while SeaMonkey is still 
using the old version. What happens "under the hood" is basically that 
the new version of the file is written to disk, and the path updated to 
reference that. But applications already using the file keep their 
handle on the older version, which is not actually deleted until all 
handles on it have been closed. This is what allows updates to be 
applied to a running Linux system, and then affected applications can be 
restarted after applying the update, minimising downtime.


The alternative, as Windows does, is to not allow files which are in use 
to be replaced at all. In that case, SeaMonkey has to be closed while 
Flash is being updated.


Mark.

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No print preview in Mac OS X? (now old printers)

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message 
, Ant 
 writes:

On 1/30/2015 1:00 PM, g wrote:


http://i.imgur.com/HlCuTj1.gif for what I saw in that localhost URL's
CUPS printers web page.


nice printer network. usb sure beats the hell out of lpr and a switch
box. :-)


No kidding. My client refused to let go of his old printers (e.g., 
reliable HP LJ 6P printer with an USB and parallel cable adapter). :(

[]
I sympathise with your client; if I had an LJ 6 that was still working, 
I'd be reluctant to let go of it too!


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Re: new seamonkey fan with questions

[Daniel]

On 31/01/15 10:13, Ronnie wrote:

Hello,

I'm new to the mailing list and seamonkey, I have been using it as my
primary browser and email client for the past week or so, liking it very
much.

I am curious about a couple things, first is seamonkey development still
active and planning to be such in the relative future.

The reason I ask is because I want to deploy seamonkey by default in a
distribution and heavily participate and promote its development.

Which leads me to my final question. Any and all donations I want to go
to the continued development of seamonkey not mozilla in general is
there any possible way to assure this?

thanks,
ronnie


Yes, Ronnie, SM development is still active with a new production 
version issued roughly in line with FF releases, i.e. approx every six 
weeks.


As for making donations, I think, at this time, it is only through the 
Mozilla Foundation but at one of the recent SM devs IRC meetings there 
was some mention about a bank account for SM Consortium itself.

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