Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

[Philip Chee]

On 03/02/2015 14:20, NoOp wrote:
> On 02/02/2015 11:23 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> Edmund Wong wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32!
>>>
>>> For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
>>> New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
>>> contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
>>> questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
>>> screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
>>> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/
>> 
>> 
>> Yes openSUSE released the update today. Finally.
>> 
>> When SeaMonkey started, it even found and installed Lightning 3.7b1.
>> 
> 
> Try updating your addons:
> 
> Lightning 3.7 true{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32
> Build identifier: 20150116134703

Only the beta versions of Lightning are compatible with SeaMonkey releases.

Phil

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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Ant]

On 2/2/2015 7:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


So you think an auto-login as a safer option?!?

IMO you should manually enter passwords for any site connected to your
money, that is why the financial institutions purposefully tried to
prevent you from using autofill.


Ditto. :)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

[NoOp]

On 02/02/2015 11:23 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32!
>>
>> For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
>> New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
>> contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
>> questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
>> screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
>>
>> Links:
>> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
>> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/
> 
> 
> Yes openSUSE released the update today. Finally.
> 
> When SeaMonkey started, it even found and installed Lightning 3.7b1.
> 

Try updating your addons:

Lightning   3.7 true{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32
Build identifier: 20150116134703

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Re: Upgrading from 2.26.1

[NoOp]

On 02/01/2015 08:31 PM, Zeb Carter wrote:
> I haven't upgraded yet due to concerns regarding some problems with 
> 2.29/2.30.
> 
> The primary reason why I haven't upgraded was the breakage of viewing 
> images in binary newsgroups in the later versions.
> 
> I haven't seen any indication that this has been fixed n 2.32. Can 
> anyone confirm this is fixed?

It is not fixed in 2.32.

> 
> And yes, I know running an outdated browser has certain security issues.
> 

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Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.

[NoOp]

On 01/12/2015 04:46 AM, Richard Falken wrote:
> I have performer further tests.
> 
> I have tried to connect to news.eternal-september.org using NNTPS without 
> installing the CAcert certificate. It silently drops the connection.
> 
> I have installed CAcert's certificates and retried. Then it worked.
> 
> No plugins were enabled duting these tests.
> 
> My conclusion is, as I had already told, that my Seamonkey is dropping the 
> connections when there is a SSL or TLS certificate problem and gives no 
> warning to the user.
> 

It is helpful if you identify to others that you are using:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120910
SeaMonkey/2.12.1

Sorry, I've no interest in going back in time to help troubleshoot a
2012 version of SeaMonkey:



I doubt that others will either.
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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Jonathan N. Little]

David E. Ross wrote:




I have a problem beyond SM 2.26.1 with logins from saved passwords where
(1) the user ID and password are entered on separate pages and (2) the
login Web pages have "autocomplete=off".  Three of the four financial
institutions where I use the Web for transactions are affected.  Most
definitely, these are the Web sites for which I do not want my passwords
on PostIt notes stuck to my monitor or in plain-text files on my hard
drive.  While the passwords are stored in Password Manager's database,
they are not used.



So you think an auto-login as a safer option?!?

IMO you should manually enter passwords for any site connected to your 
money, that is why the financial institutions purposefully tried to 
prevent you from using autofill.


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Re: Can't "send this page" with anchors?

[Ant]

Example with
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/49/commercials#video=0ap300466623

"Send this page" resulted http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/49/commercials
only. A bug? By design (annoying)?

Thank you in advance. :)


WFM. Exactly what did you do, and exactly where did the truncated URL
appear?


Weird. It happened again with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC2qk2X3fKA but only with
https://www.youtube.com/watch ... I should restart my old SM session.


FYI, I haven't seen it happened after restarting SM. That was SO weird. :O
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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/2/2015 2:26 PM:





Saved Password Editor goes beyond the built-in SM Password Manager.  You
can edit passwords and log-ins.  Not sure if it can be made compatible
with SM 2.3x or not.  I've used it in the past and it has been very
useful.  Frankly, it should be built into SM as standard.



What? Sure you can edit passwords in SM, just right-click and select 
edit! No extension needed.


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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[David E. Ross]

On 2/2/2015 5:09 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/2/2015 2:26 PM:
>> Larry S. wrote:
>>> I'll be upgrading SM from 2.26.1 to 2.32. I know about the Remember
>>> Passwords extension, and will remove it. Does the Saved Passwords Editor
>>> have the same problem? Are there others? Other issues that you can see?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your advice!
>>
>> Why do you need an extension? All this talk about saved passwords, not
>> seen any issue and have upgraded SeaMonkey on each patch since Mozilla
>> became SeaMonkey.
>>
>> If you have passwords for a site they get saved and autofilled unless
>> you have barred the site from the action. Check per site restrictions
>> with data manager Tools > Data Manager.
>>
> Saved Password Editor goes beyond the built-in SM Password Manager.  You 
> can edit passwords and log-ins.  Not sure if it can be made compatible 
> with SM 2.3x or not.  I've used it in the past and it has been very 
> useful.  Frankly, it should be built into SM as standard.
> 

I have a problem beyond SM 2.26.1 with logins from saved passwords where
(1) the user ID and password are entered on separate pages and (2) the
login Web pages have "autocomplete=off".  Three of the four financial
institutions where I use the Web for transactions are affected.  Most
definitely, these are the Web sites for which I do not want my passwords
on PostIt notes stuck to my monitor or in plain-text files on my hard
drive.  While the passwords are stored in Password Manager's database,
they are not used.

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I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Larry S.]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote on 2/2/2015 8:09 PM:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/2/2015 2:26 PM:

Larry S. wrote:

I'll be upgrading SM from 2.26.1 to 2.32. I know about the Remember
Passwords extension, and will remove it. Does the Saved Passwords
Editor
have the same problem? Are there others? Other issues that you can see?

Thank you for your advice!


Why do you need an extension? All this talk about saved passwords, not
seen any issue and have upgraded SeaMonkey on each patch since Mozilla
became SeaMonkey.

If you have passwords for a site they get saved and autofilled unless
you have barred the site from the action. Check per site restrictions
with data manager Tools > Data Manager.


Saved Password Editor goes beyond the built-in SM Password Manager.  You
can edit passwords and log-ins.  Not sure if it can be made compatible
with SM 2.3x or not.  I've used it in the past and it has been very
useful.  Frankly, it should be built into SM as standard.



Just downloaded and installed 2.8.2 into SM 2.32 Beta 1 and it seems to
work fine.

You can right-click this link to download.





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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Tom Pamin]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?



Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


Looks like that was it - disabled Adblock Plus and it's working. Thanks.
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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Ed Mullen]

Ed Mullen wrote on 2/2/2015 8:09 PM:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/2/2015 2:26 PM:

Larry S. wrote:

I'll be upgrading SM from 2.26.1 to 2.32. I know about the Remember
Passwords extension, and will remove it. Does the Saved Passwords Editor
have the same problem? Are there others? Other issues that you can see?

Thank you for your advice!


Why do you need an extension? All this talk about saved passwords, not
seen any issue and have upgraded SeaMonkey on each patch since Mozilla
became SeaMonkey.

If you have passwords for a site they get saved and autofilled unless
you have barred the site from the action. Check per site restrictions
with data manager Tools > Data Manager.


Saved Password Editor goes beyond the built-in SM Password Manager.  You
can edit passwords and log-ins.  Not sure if it can be made compatible
with SM 2.3x or not.  I've used it in the past and it has been very
useful.  Frankly, it should be built into SM as standard.



Just downloaded and installed 2.8.2 into SM 2.32 Beta 1 and it seems to 
work fine.


You can right-click this link to download.



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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Tom Pamin wrote:


These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?



Plays fine here if I disable AdBlock Plus on nbc-2.com. But with ABP 
fully enabled, it just sits there no matter what I click.


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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Ed Mullen]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 2/2/2015 2:26 PM:

Larry S. wrote:

I'll be upgrading SM from 2.26.1 to 2.32. I know about the Remember
Passwords extension, and will remove it. Does the Saved Passwords Editor
have the same problem? Are there others? Other issues that you can see?

Thank you for your advice!


Why do you need an extension? All this talk about saved passwords, not
seen any issue and have upgraded SeaMonkey on each patch since Mozilla
became SeaMonkey.

If you have passwords for a site they get saved and autofilled unless
you have barred the site from the action. Check per site restrictions
with data manager Tools > Data Manager.

Saved Password Editor goes beyond the built-in SM Password Manager.  You 
can edit passwords and log-ins.  Not sure if it can be made compatible 
with SM 2.3x or not.  I've used it in the past and it has been very 
useful.  Frankly, it should be built into SM as standard.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[WaltS48]

Tom Pamin wrote:

These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?
http://www.nbc-2.com/video



Play just fine here with Flash activated and allowing cookies.


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Videos Won't Play

[Tom Pamin]

These videos won't play anymore on one of my laptops. Nothing happens 
when I click play. They do work with IE. How do I fix this?

http://www.nbc-2.com/video
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NNTP over SSL/TLS depends on News Server (i.e. NNTPS)

[Hb]

Richard Falken wrote:
> I have not been able to connect to any news provider using SSL or TLS with
> Seamonkey yet. I have tried ternal-september, aioe and the mozilla service
> but I always timeout when I try to establish an encrypted connection. I
> suppose this means there is trouble on my end.

MOZILLA does not offer a secure connection to its NNTP server currently.
 Ask on port 563 and you won't get an IP paket back.  Try
> telnet news.mozilla.org 563
and the connection will simply timeout.


ETERNAL-SEPTEMBER can securely accessed with two easy steps:

0. Check
> telnet reader443.eternal-september.org 443
After some time you will get a "400 SSL connection failed" message.
This is a good sign because the server tried to establish a secure
connection.

1. Account
Set up a news account in Seamonkey for reader443.eternal-september.org
and port 443.

When you now try to manage your subscriptions the list of news groups is
empty.

2. Certificate
In Seamonkey open Preferences > Privacy & Security > Ceritifcates >
Manage Certificates > Servers > Add Exception.  Type
https://reader443.eternal-september.org in Location.  Click Get
Certificate.  You will get a "Wrong Site" warning in the dialog box.
Click Confirm Security Exception and OK.

3. Registration (Not described here)


AIOE not described here.

Hb





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Re: SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Larry S. wrote:

I'll be upgrading SM from 2.26.1 to 2.32. I know about the Remember
Passwords extension, and will remove it. Does the Saved Passwords Editor
have the same problem? Are there others? Other issues that you can see?

Thank you for your advice!


Why do you need an extension? All this talk about saved passwords, not 
seen any issue and have upgraded SeaMonkey on each patch since Mozilla 
became SeaMonkey.


If you have passwords for a site they get saved and autofilled unless 
you have barred the site from the action. Check per site restrictions 
with data manager Tools > Data Manager.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

[WaltS48]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/



Yes openSUSE released the update today. Finally.

When SeaMonkey started, it even found and installed Lightning 3.7b1.

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Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

[Larry S.]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 01/31/2015 06:12 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.
 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.
 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.
 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.
 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.

So, how exactly does autofill work in 2.32? One of the above, or
something else entirely?

Yes, I know about the problem extension to save passwords. Yes, various
sites use "username" or "login" or other terms; all refer to the first
entry upon logging in.

Thank you for any insights or advice you might give me.

Larry S.
(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)



I am still on SeaMonkey 2.31, and it isn't my default browser so I don't
have many usernames or passwords saved.

I went to the mozillaZine site. Entered my username and password,
clicked the Login button and was presented with this warning.

http://imgur.com/SGz9nUa

Clicking continue in that warning logged me in, but I wasn't asked to
save the information. Proving #1 for that site.

I went to my other news servers web site which I have a L/I and P/W
saved in SeaMonkey. It did not autofill the password when I entered the
user name. I was asked if I wanted to save this information, which I did.

That disproves #1 and confirms #2

Removed the old Password Manager entry, restarted SeaMonkey, went to the
site, clicked the User login link and the data was autofilled.

Confirming #4 for that site.


My Verizon login works.

Disproving #5 for that site.

I'm done testing. It is all too confusing for me.

Switch to Firefox and install the Secure Login extension.

Thank you for your reply, and for your research. I, too, find all this 
confusing, which is why I asked the question in the first place. Your 
answer clears up a lot.


Thanks again.

Larry S.
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Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

[Larry S.]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.


Well I know that is not true. Just set one with 2.32


 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.


Dito not so, WFM. If you have more than one userid/password saved for
the same domain you will need to start typing the userid for the correct
password to be autofilled.



 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.


Not what I see.


 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.


Yes.


 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.


Maybe so, sounds like and extended login used by financial websites. If,
so you'd be crazy to autofill logins to anything connected to your money
IMO. It is the one area you should never, ever, auto login. Use a good
*unique* password for each and always manually enter your credentials.





(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)

  ^^
Missing out on security patches here...

Thank you for your detailed and specific reply. That is very helpful, 
and encourages me to go ahead and update.


Yes, I know there are needed security patches which is why I'm trying to 
sort out the issues and update.


Thanks again.

Larry S.
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SM 2.32 Extension Incompatibility?

[Larry S.]

I'll be upgrading SM from 2.26.1 to 2.32. I know about the Remember 
Passwords extension, and will remove it. Does the Saved Passwords Editor 
have the same problem? Are there others? Other issues that you can see?


Thank you for your advice!

Larry S.
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Re: new topic : Does you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning calendar, ?????

[NFN Smith]

Alex Beauroy wrote:

new topic : Does  you (( new SeaMonkey fans )) use Composer, Lightning
calendar, ?
IRC ChatZilla ???
@lex



I have used the Composer a lot in the past, because it's convenient for 
quick/dirty updates to HTML content.  However, knowing that it isn't 
supported anymore, and experiencing just enough occasional quirks 
(particularly in deleting rows from tables), I've gotten in the habit of 
using Komposer far more often, where the user interface is nearly 
identical.  Among other things, I've found that Komposer produces 
cleaner HTML, including no big (apparently random) blocks of white 
space, and files that are noticeably smaller.



I have Lightning installed, but don't really use it, because I haven't 
found a tool that will sync with my Android phone, other than the 
for-pay BirdieSync, or having to coordinate through Google Calendar.


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2.30 and above

[look165]

Hello,

When will you fix the bug appeared since 2.30 version.

On Windows 7 32-bit French, no character at all (either letters or numbers) 
even in the menus.

Mailing has the same problem and composer and addressbook  too.

I am always obliged to roll back to 2.29.1 which is the latest version that 
works correctly.

2.32 is working fine in safe mode. But no plugin or addon  available.

Note : I always have my updates from the Seamonkey Official Site.

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Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.

[Richard Falken]

Hb wrote:
> 
> Perhaps https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966689 ?
> 
> What is shown in the Error Console?
> 
> Hb
> 

I don't think it is related. The security exceptions dialog does not even
show up.

Error console shows nothing regarding this problem. It is just silently
ignored.
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Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.

[Hb]

Richard Falken wrote:

> I have not been able to connect to any news provider using SSL or TLS with
> Seamonkey yet. I have tried ternal-september, aioe and the mozilla service
> but I always timeout when I try to establish an encrypted connection. I
> suppose this means there is trouble on my end.

Perhaps https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966689 ?

What is shown in the Error Console?

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