Re: Annoying hang in SM after forwarding an email under Win 8.1

2015-03-03 Thread Ed Mullen

Dick Hoffman wrote on 3/2/2015 3:11 PM:

I'm running essentially vanilla SM 2.32.1 on a system under 64 bit
Windows 8.1. Since I moved to this system I've been experiencing a
random delay after forwarding or, less frequently, sending an email. I
get a small status window that says the email was forwarded and with a
progress bar green line running anywhere from 35 to 100%. SM is in an
uninterruptible wait state in that I cannot select another email or do
anything else on the system. If I select Cancel in the status window,
Windows says the app is not responding and it can cancel SM. Cancel
frees up the system. The message has been forwarded; I can verify this
by forwarding to myself and checking on another system. If I just wait
for 90 seconds instead of doing anything with the status window the
progress bar goes to 100%, the status window disappears and the message
I am forwarding gets posted with a little blue arrow to show it was
forwarded. Everything returns to normal. At this point I'm thinking it
has something to do with Win 8.1 since I did not experience this delay
on our previous XP system. Any suggestions would be welcome.


Test it in Safe Mode which disables all add-ons.

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Re: Binaries

2015-03-03 Thread WaltS48

On 03/03/2015 05:50 AM, F Murtz wrote:

Could someone please explain in simple terms of one syllable how to turn
binary gobledygook into pictures or whatever using seamonkey version 2.5?



In email? Show Remote Content

In newsgroups? Not going to happen at this point in time.

[893776 – No images loading in newsgroups on version 2.19 but does with both 
version 1.16 and 2.17](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893776)

Although if you are using SM 2.5 you should have no problem.

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-03 Thread WaltS48

On 03/03/2015 02:00 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 03/03/15 04:38, Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


I normally determine the FF equivalent of SM by adding the bits of the
SM version and then adding one, e.g. SM 2.26 ... 2 + 26 + 1 = 29
therefore SM 2.26 is equivalent to FF 29

Don't know how the extra bit works in ... maybe SM 2.26.1 is
equivalent to FF 29.1 and SM 2.27 (if there was one) would have been
equivalent to FF 30.


Interesting!  I found a chart at Mozilla listing the products.
Installed FF 27 on one laptop tonight.
Removed FF 29.
I agree with Geoff.  May install 28.xx on another laptop tomorrow
Then eventually SM 2.23 or so on this machine.



SeaMonkey 2.23 is over a year old, having been released on 2013-12-12.

I would install SM 2.32. It has all the security vulnerabilities fixed that 
your Firefox is vulnerable to.

[Security Advisories for Firefox — 
Mozilla](https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/)

[Security Advisories for SeaMonkey — 
Mozilla](https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey/)
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Re: Memory and Flash Player.

2015-03-03 Thread Ed Mullen

Ant wrote on 3/2/2015 10:26 PM:

Get an ad blocker and put Flash to activate on demand.


On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, lr...@superlink.net wrote:

I'm using
Windows 7 pro SP1
Seamonkey 2.32.1
Shockwave Flash 32_16_0_0_305

Certain pages seem to take a lot of memory. I've seen Flash Player up
above 2.5GB. Seamonkey goes to around 500MB.

Closing the pages I suspect to be causing the trouble makes the memory
usage go way down.

It seems to occur when there are ads that look like gifs, ie they just
repeat over and over.  I usually see messages in the message area that
say things like Waiting for ..

I don't want to block the ads.

A good site to see this problem is www.fark.com, although it's not the
only one.  It doesn't always happen. Ads that are unchanging, which I
suspect are either jpegs or pngs,  don't seem to cause the problem.

My version of Explorer doesn't seem to have the same problems although
it has popped up some message about scripts being disabled and it
sometimes leaves the advertising area on www.fark.com blank, so maybe
it's detecting something.

The memory usage slows down Seamonkey's response time making for a
less than pleasant browsing experience.

TIA for any suggestions.


lruss said he/she didn't want to block the ads.

If the issue is .gif animations doing an infinite loop:

Edit - Preferences - Privacy  Security - Images.  Under Animated 
images should loop click once or never.



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Re: Binaries

2015-03-03 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS48 wrote on 03/03/2015 16:03:

On 03/03/2015 05:50 AM, F Murtz wrote:

Could someone please explain in simple terms of one syllable how to turn
binary gobledygook into pictures or whatever using seamonkey version 
2.5?



In email? Show Remote Content

In newsgroups? Not going to happen at this point in time.

[893776 – No images loading in newsgroups on version 2.19 but does 
with both version 1.16 and 
2.17](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893776)


Although if you are using SM 2.5 you should have no problem.


He is in 2.25 and not 2.5 :-)
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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-03 Thread Geoff Welsh

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 03/03/15 04:38, Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


I normally determine the FF equivalent of SM by adding the bits of the
SM version and then adding one, e.g. SM 2.26 ... 2 + 26 + 1 = 29
therefore SM 2.26 is equivalent to FF 29

Don't know how the extra bit works in ... maybe SM 2.26.1 is
equivalent to FF 29.1 and SM 2.27 (if there was one) would have been
equivalent to FF 30.


Interesting!  I found a chart at Mozilla listing the products.
Installed FF 27 on one laptop tonight.
Removed FF 29.
I agree with Geoff.  May install 28.xx on another laptop tomorrow
Then eventually SM 2.23 or so on this machine.


I held at SM 2.23 until the mail addressing autocomplete problems 
introduced after it were fixed.  I'm happy with 2.34a1 now.


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(build ID 20150112003001, on various Mac OS X)
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Re: Annoying hang in SM after forwarding an email under Win 8.1

2015-03-03 Thread Dick Hoffman

On 3/3/2015 10:16 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote on 3/2/2015 3:11 PM:

I'm running essentially vanilla SM 2.32.1 on a system under 64 bit
Windows 8.1. Since I moved to this system I've been experiencing a
random delay after forwarding or, less frequently, sending an email. I
get a small status window that says the email was forwarded and with a
progress bar green line running anywhere from 35 to 100%. SM is in an
uninterruptible wait state in that I cannot select another email or do
anything else on the system. If I select Cancel in the status window,
Windows says the app is not responding and it can cancel SM. Cancel
frees up the system. The message has been forwarded; I can verify this
by forwarding to myself and checking on another system. If I just wait
for 90 seconds instead of doing anything with the status window the
progress bar goes to 100%, the status window disappears and the message
I am forwarding gets posted with a little blue arrow to show it was
forwarded. Everything returns to normal. At this point I'm thinking it
has something to do with Win 8.1 since I did not experience this delay
on our previous XP system. Any suggestions would be welcome.


Test it in Safe Mode which disables all add-ons.



Tried forwarding in Safe Mode and the same thing happened on the second 
email I forwarded.

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-03 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

WaltS48 wrote:

On 03/03/2015 02:00 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 03/03/15 04:38, Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


I normally determine the FF equivalent of SM by adding the bits of the
SM version and then adding one, e.g. SM 2.26 ... 2 + 26 + 1 = 29
therefore SM 2.26 is equivalent to FF 29

Don't know how the extra bit works in ... maybe SM 2.26.1 is
equivalent to FF 29.1 and SM 2.27 (if there was one) would have been
equivalent to FF 30.


Interesting!  I found a chart at Mozilla listing the products.
Installed FF 27 on one laptop tonight.
Removed FF 29.
I agree with Geoff.  May install 28.xx on another laptop tomorrow
Then eventually SM 2.23 or so on this machine.



SeaMonkey 2.23 is over a year old, having been released on 2013-12-12.

I would install SM 2.32. It has all the security vulnerabilities fixed 
that your Firefox is vulnerable to.


[Security Advisories for Firefox — 
Mozilla](https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/) 



[Security Advisories for SeaMonkey — 
Mozilla](https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey/) 


Thanks Walt.

I like the interface of FF27 but not so much FF29.
Is the interface of SM 2.25 much different from SM 3x.x?
From what I have read, each new version takes away more user control.

I'm not too concerned about security.
This old XP3 and SM1119 machine has never gotten a virus in
its 10 years of XP incarnations and hardware upgrades.
The two w7 machines with everything are always getting nasty
stuff even though they are only used for work and supposedly secure.
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Re: Binaries

2015-03-03 Thread F Murtz

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 03/03/2015 16:03:

On 03/03/2015 05:50 AM, F Murtz wrote:

Could someone please explain in simple terms of one syllable how to turn
binary gobledygook into pictures or whatever using seamonkey version
2.5?



In email? Show Remote Content

In newsgroups? Not going to happen at this point in time.

[893776 – No images loading in newsgroups on version 2.19 but does
with both version 1.16 and
2.17](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893776)

Although if you are using SM 2.5 you should have no problem.


He is in 2.25 and not 2.5 :-)
It is 2.25 I just need someone to explain how to see binaries, If I go 
to a binary group it is just pages of gobbledygook how do I turn it in 
to whatever it is.
I once tried to research how to use yEnc if that is what you use but got 
no where.

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Re: FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

2015-03-03 Thread Daniel

On 03/03/15 18:00, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 03/03/15 04:38, Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 3/2/2015 12:29 PM:

FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?

Hi, can someone tell me the FF equivalent to SM 2.26.1 ?
Thanks.


29


I normally determine the FF equivalent of SM by adding the bits of the
SM version and then adding one, e.g. SM 2.26 ... 2 + 26 + 1 = 29
therefore SM 2.26 is equivalent to FF 29

Don't know how the extra bit works in ... maybe SM 2.26.1 is
equivalent to FF 29.1 and SM 2.27 (if there was one) would have been
equivalent to FF 30.


Interesting!  I found a chart at Mozilla listing the products.
Installed FF 27 on one laptop tonight.
Removed FF 29.
I agree with Geoff.  May install 28.xx on another laptop tomorrow
Then eventually SM 2.23 or so on this machine.


Paul, what chart??

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114

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Binaries

2015-03-03 Thread F Murtz
Could someone please explain in simple terms of one syllable how to turn 
binary gobledygook into pictures or whatever using seamonkey version 2.5?

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