Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

2015-06-13 Thread WaltS48

On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Ant wrote:


Once in a while, I noticed my sent draft e-mails leaves a copy behind
in my SeaMonkey's Local Folders' Drafts folder. I have not yet to
figure out the pattern why this happens once in a while. Has anyone
noticed this too?


I don't use whatever Seamonkey means by Local Folders (embarrassed to
say after decades with this suite that I've never figured out its purpose).



You don't see your posts to this newsgroup in the Sent folder under 
Local folders? It's where all 1420 of my sent messages are stored.


Also where drafts go if you save a post as a draft, so you can proofread 
it, before sending.




But I regularly find emails left behind in my regular Drafts folder
after I've sent them. It's a bit of a mystery; one definite cause is
when I've saved a draft email, then modified it and sent it without
having resaved it first. It's rather a pain; I always have to go back
and be sure that email actually went out before I delete the remnant in
the Drafts folder.




I don't Save as Draft any emails when composing.

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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

2015-06-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

WaltS48 wrote:


On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:


Ant wrote:


Once in a while, I noticed my sent draft e-mails leaves a copy
behind in my SeaMonkey's Local Folders' Drafts folder. I have not
yet to figure out the pattern why this happens once in a while.
Has anyone noticed this too?


I don't use whatever SeaMonkey means by Local Folders (embarrassed
to say after decades with this suite that I've never figured out
its purpose).


You don't see your posts to this newsgroup in the Sent folder under
Local folders? It's where all 1420 of my sent messages are stored.

Also where drafts go if you save a post as a draft, so you can
proofread it, before sending.


All my Local Folders are empty, always have been (seems to depend on 
when you came to Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey). Sent messages are saved in 
the Sent folders of the corresponding accounts, and drafts are saved in 
the Drafts folders of the corresponding accounts.



But I regularly find emails left behind in my regular Drafts
folder after I've sent them. It's a bit of a mystery; one definite
cause is when I've saved a draft email, then modified it and sent
it without having resaved it first. It's rather a pain; I always
have to go back and be sure that email actually went out before I
delete the remnant in the Drafts folder.


I don't Save as Draft any emails when composing.


I do, frequently, and the result is as stated above (no problem). For 
example, I have a delivery ticket in my Templates folder, and if I have 
notes to the client, I'll start a delivery ticket, add the notes, and 
save as draft. I may update it several times as I work. When I complete 
the job, I attach the job and the invoice, finalize the ticket and my 
notes, and send.


I haven't observed Ant's problem here, not even once in a while; drafts 
are always properly deleted whenever I send the messages.


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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

2015-06-13 Thread Ant

Once in a while, I noticed my sent draft e-mails leaves a copy behind
in my SeaMonkey's Local Folders' Drafts folder. I have not yet to
figure out the pattern why this happens once in a while. Has anyone
noticed this too?


I don't use whatever Seamonkey means by Local Folders (embarrassed to
say after decades with this suite that I've never figured out its purpose).

But I regularly find emails left behind in my regular Drafts folder
after I've sent them. It's a bit of a mystery; one definite cause is
when I've saved a draft email, then modified it and sent it without
having resaved it first. It's rather a pain; I always have to go back
and be sure that email actually went out before I delete the remnant in
the Drafts folder.


Yep, it confuses me too hence why I asked. I wonder if this a 
Thunderbird bug or only in SeaMonkey. :(

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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

2015-06-13 Thread Jonathan N Little

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


snip


You don't see your posts to this newsgroup in the Sent folder under
Local folders? It's where all 1420 of my sent messages are stored.

Also where drafts go if you save a post as a draft, so you can
proofread it, before sending.


All my Local Folders are empty, always have been (seems to depend on
when you came to Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey). Sent messages are saved in
the Sent folders of the corresponding accounts, and drafts are saved in
the Drafts folders of the corresponding accounts.


Drafts/Templates/Sent/Archives correspond to each *email* account. But 
for all Newsgroups, including ones on different servers, all use those 
folders under Local Folders. Blogs and Feeds has its own Trash. That is 
the way is has been for me. My profile began with Netscape Communicator 
jeeze almost two decades ago and has been ported to Mozilla browser and 
then SeaMonkey.


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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

2015-06-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Jonathan N Little wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


snip


You don't see your posts to this newsgroup in the Sent folder under
Local folders? It's where all 1420 of my sent messages are stored.

Also where drafts go if you save a post as a draft, so you can
proofread it, before sending.


All my Local Folders are empty, always have been (seems to depend on
when you came to Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey). Sent messages are saved in
the Sent folders of the corresponding accounts, and drafts are saved in
the Drafts folders of the corresponding accounts.


Drafts/Templates/Sent/Archives correspond to each *email* account. But
for all Newsgroups, including ones on different servers, all use those
folders under Local Folders. Blogs and Feeds has its own Trash.


Not in my experience. The account I use to post here (same as one of my 
real accounts, but with munged sending address and a different sig for 
the benefit of the spambots) saves its drafts and sent messages in the 
same folders as the corresponding real account. I don't have a Blogs 
and Feeds account, though I did for a while when I was getting RSS 
feeds. As noted above, Local Folders have never had a contents.



That is the way is has been for me. My profile began with Netscape
Communicator jeeze almost two decades ago and has been ported to
Mozilla browser and then SeaMonkey.


Me too.

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Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

2015-06-13 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Philip Chee wrote:

On 12/06/2015 07:12, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

We're falling farther and farther behind both Firefox AND Thunderbird
now...


I've put some of my own builds up at:
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

2.38a1 is bleeding edge trunk
2.37a2 is an Aurora build

Phil


Thanks, but those don't help me. :(

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Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

2015-06-13 Thread Petr Voralek
   Hello!

  On Saturday, 13.06.2015 17:09(+0200) *Cruz, Jaime* wrote, and I quote
(in part):

 I've put some of my own builds up at:
 http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

 2.38a1 is bleeding edge trunk
 2.37a2 is an Aurora build

 Thanks, but those don't help me. :(

  Why?  Because you use 64bit linux?

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.38a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/seamonkey-2.37a2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-13 Thread Daniel

On 13/06/2015 4:17 AM, EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 12/06/2015 6:06 PM, Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-06-09 21:03, EE wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-06-08 22:01, EE wrote:

Oh.  I thought it was a deficiency in HTML5 that it could not do full
screen.  I have the setting full-screen-api.enabled at false
because I
cannot stand web pages changing the size of my browser window
arbitrarily.


This is strange because full-screen-api.enabled should not allow web
pages to resize your browser - it only allows them to enter and leave
full screen but the browser size should remain the same after leaving
full screen.

Allowing browser resizing is controlled via Preferences  Advanced 
Scripts  Plugins  Allow scripts to... Move or resize existing
windows.
But this is completely unrelated to full-screen-api.enabled.


Suddenly putting my window into full screen mode does resize the
viewing
area.  It takes up the full screen.  I really hate that kind of
thing. I
think it is my prerogative to decide what size the window should be,
and
whether it should be full-screen or normal, not that of some
smart-aleck
who wrote a web page.


Can you provide any URLs of pages that go full screen without user
intervention? Personally, in recent years I haven't seen such behaviour
even once - if there is a full screen option on a site it is always
under some button or icon.

Sometimes I can see web sites that try to resize windows in standard
ways but this is easily suppressed by the pref I mentioned above. But
I've never seen full-screen-api abused in this way. I'm not sure, but
maybe browsers have some protection against it, e.g. user interaction
(like a click) is required for full-screen-api to work at all?

That's why I'm curious what sites force full screen.


Is it possible that full-screen-api means full browser screen not full
computer screen??


It means it takes the whole monitor display area.

O.K., just wondering, as I have my SM set up to full screen on this 
laptop, so couldn't tell the difference.



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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

2015-06-13 Thread Jonathan N Little

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jonathan N Little wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


snip


You don't see your posts to this newsgroup in the Sent folder under
Local folders? It's where all 1420 of my sent messages are stored.

Also where drafts go if you save a post as a draft, so you can
proofread it, before sending.


All my Local Folders are empty, always have been (seems to depend on
when you came to Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey). Sent messages are saved in
the Sent folders of the corresponding accounts, and drafts are saved in
the Drafts folders of the corresponding accounts.


Drafts/Templates/Sent/Archives correspond to each *email* account. But
for all Newsgroups, including ones on different servers, all use those
folders under Local Folders. Blogs and Feeds has its own Trash.


Not in my experience. The account I use to post here (same as one of my
real accounts, but with munged sending address and a different sig for
the benefit of the spambots) saves its drafts and sent messages in the
same folders as the corresponding real account. I don't have a Blogs
and Feeds account, though I did for a while when I was getting RSS
feeds. As noted above, Local Folders have never had a contents.



Is that a NNTP server type account to news.mozilla.org, or are you using 
the email list server?


If NNTP, then have you altered the Copies  Folders from the default? 
E.g.,


Edit  Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings  news.mozilla.org  Copies  
Folders


When sending messages:

[X] Automatically place copy in:
[X] Sent Folder on: [Local Folders]


That is the way is has been for me. My profile began with Netscape
Communicator jeeze almost two decades ago and has been ported to
Mozilla browser and then SeaMonkey.


Me too.




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Re: Is this Maleware or a scam ?

2015-06-13 Thread A Williams

Robert Kaiser wrote:

DoctorBill schrieb:

scam or Maleware


Note that the word is malware, it's because it is malicious, not
because it's male or female.

KaiRo



I thought the implication was that males are malicious.
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Re: Sending a drafted e-mail, but older draft copy still stays?

2015-06-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Jonathan N Little wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Not in my experience. The account I use to post here (same as one of my
real accounts, but with munged sending address and a different sig for
the benefit of the spambots) saves its drafts and sent messages in the
same folders as the corresponding real account. I don't have a Blogs
and Feeds account, though I did for a while when I was getting RSS
feeds. As noted above, Local Folders have never had a contents.


Is that a NNTP server type account to news.mozilla.org, or are you using
the email list server?


NNTP.


If NNTP, then have you altered the Copies  Folders from the default?
E.g.,

Edit  Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings  news.mozilla.org  Copies 
Folders

When sending messages:

[X] Automatically place copy in:
[X] Sent Folder on: [Local Folders]


I may have, years ago when I first subscribed, but I don't recall.

I do see LF selected for archives, but there is no Archives folder under 
LF, and I've never created any archive(s) for this account. SM 
apparently doesn't do so on its own -- or perhaps that's because there 
have never been any messages in LF for it to archive.


In fact, I don't recall ever seeing any messages of any kind in Local 
Folders at any time in my 20-plus years with NS/Mozilla/SM. It seems 
unlikely that I've been so scrupulously vigilant as to prevent it so 
perfectly. After all, I'm a fallible, forgetful human being.


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Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

2015-06-13 Thread Adrian Kalla
W dniu 06/13/2015 o 10:47 PM, EE pisze:
 If you are willing to settle for SM 2.36, you can get a beta vesion here:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux64/1433981012/
 
 That would be preferable to an alpha version, since it would have fewer
 bugs.
 

You might also try SM 2.35 from here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-linux64/

It should have even less bugs ;)


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Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

2015-06-13 Thread EE

Petr Voralek wrote:

Hello!

   On Saturday, 13.06.2015 17:09(+0200) *Cruz, Jaime* wrote, and I quote
(in part):


I've put some of my own builds up at:
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

2.38a1 is bleeding edge trunk
2.37a2 is an Aurora build



Thanks, but those don't help me. :(


   Why?  Because you use 64bit linux?

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.38a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/seamonkey-2.37a2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2


If you are willing to settle for SM 2.36, you can get a beta vesion here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux64/1433981012/
That would be preferable to an alpha version, since it would have fewer 
bugs.


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