Re: NoSquint For SeaMonkey
On 25/06/2015 19:49, MRoss wrote: IMAP for all subscriptions! There is a nasty bug, which makes SM crash when it tries to compact IMAP folders! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1158578 Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser does not open from links in email! FIXED
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Mike C wrote: Doesn't anyone have an idea how to fix this?? Browser does not open from links in SM email. Give us some idea of your settings. Security, html, js, etc. Does your SM mail block remote source content? Would you believe it corrected/fixed itself. Working correctly now (smile). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey unresponsive
[ One preliminary netiquette request -- this is one of the places in the Internet, where top-posting is unwelcome. [ When you reply to a message, don't just insert your comments above a complete quotation of the previous message. Assume that the reader already has copies of previously-posted messages, and quote only enough of the previous message to establish context for a new message. The majority of your content should be original submission. [ Also, it's important to quote first, then put your response following, so that the message can be read from top to bottom, on a single pass. Following this practice will increase the chances of you getting useful responses to your questions .] Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Can I re-install SM 2.33.1 over current install without de-install, or do I need to de-install / re-install ? And do you think it might help given the errors below ? My experience is that uninstall/reinstall probably won't do anything, unless you have reason to believe that there is corruption in either the program binaries or Windows registry. Normally, if you uninstall, your user profiles are not removed, and I think that chances are high that you'll still be seeing problems. The most frequent source of performance issues with Mozilla apps tends to be related to user profiles, and for that, Safe Mode or a new profile are a good test. From previous postings you've made, I believe you've tried Safe Mode. If you haven't seen results there, then that would probably eliminate the common problems of either misbehaving extensions and/or things from odd settings in your prefs.js file. Have you tried Safe Mode on all your profiles? Safe Mode or not, are there any profiles that behave better than others? If you haven't done so already, I would suggest to see what kind of performance you get off a newly-created profile. If performance issues aren't there, then it's likely that there's something relating to your data, especially if you have large mail stores. If you still have performance issues, then that's indicative of something system-related, that's not Seamonkey. If you have system-related stuff, then you're looking at things such as drivers, or disk integrity questions, and from quotes of previous conversation, I see that you've spent time looking at those. One other thing -- how are you on disk space usage? Assuming that you're using a traditional hard drive, if it's more than half full, you will start seeing performance slowdowns for anything on your computer, and if the disk is at more than 75% capacity, you should consider it to be essentially full, and there will be noticeable performance issues. Thus, if you tend to be a pack rat sort that saves everything, then you may need to make a choice between moving or deleting some of what you have saved to other media, or moving to another hard drive. There is one hardware-related thing that's worth looking at: you might want to see what happens when you turn off hardware acceleration in SeaMonkey. On my own setup, a number of years ago, I was having problems with odd display of fonts, and disabling acceleration, fixed the problem, with no other apparent performance issues. More recently, with the release of Thunderbird 38.0.1, I've seen a number of reports of people experiencing speed or stability issues, and for many of those, disabling acceleration seems to have resolved those problems. Doing this may or may not do anything for you, but it's worth a try. Reading between the lines, my suspicion is that where you're having problems is coming from the mail side. If you normally use POP, and have multi-GB mail stores, that might be the place to look. Several things I suggest: 1) In the folders pane in the mail client, enable the display that allows you to see not only the number of new messages, but the total number of messages, and the size of your folders. Click on the icon at the top of the pane's scroll bar, to select all three. 2) Pare down the size of large folders, especially Inbox, Sent Mail and Trash. There is debate about performance issues relating to large folders-- some are insistent that folders should be kept small, and others report very large folders, with no performance issues, at all. My own experience indicates the latter, but my personal preference is for smaller folders. In any case, the pre-defined folders are not intended for long-term archival storage. (In decades past, that was probably more of an issue than it is with current systems.) If you don't normally sort messages into folders, use the capacity for Archive, which will move messages into an archive folder, and out of your pre-defined folders. In a similar way, some advocate against having sub-folders in your Inbox, although I haven't seen problems with doing that. 3) Look for messages with attachments, and consider either detaching the attachments (where the content
Re: What version of SM is used by most here?
chicagofan wrote: What is the most reliable version available now? I've read of so many problems I can't keep up with them, and I've been afraid to upgrade, because my short term memory is so pathetic, and I've also forgotten the steps to upgrade [safely]. I'm assuming instructions will still be at the site where the downloads are. Anyone have a feeling which version has the least problems now? I'm being pushed to do this, because when I was forced to use Firefox the other day to do something, they updated it to version 31. [I didn't know it was set to auto update, I have now changed that.] I will appreciate any suggestions to reduce my anxiety, and take pity on me, because I'm old. :) bj I use 2.17 for daily stuff mainly because of Password Manager and the fact that I do not need a lot of Add-Ons to perform the same functions that seemingly later versions need. I also still use Netscape Composer 4.79 to build and maintain my website as later versions in Seamonkey proved to be too touchy for me to easily do what I can do with 4.79. Granted I have to do some 'touch-up' raw HTML work with a text editor but it is still better than all of the stuff folks have recommended. So basically your choice will depend on what you value most and hopefully all the comments posted here will give you some insight to help you reach that end. -- Stan Gondek Multi Path Communications http://www.m-p-c.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Experimental Win32 SeaMonkey 2.35-Gamma build.
Details at Mozillazine: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=14212961#p14212961 Please help smoke test this build. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What version of SM is used by most here?
Daniel wrote: On 26/06/2015 8:48 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Snip That has not happened to me since 1991. 1991!! What did you use back then Mosaic or something?? (I can only go back as far as Netscape Navigator 0.9 in 1995 or 1996!) Good question. I don't remember what I used. Might have been via BBS. Ah... yea, I think there was some sort of cat... puma, tiger, or something. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser does not open from links in email!
Mike C wrote: Doesn't anyone have an idea how to fix this?? Browser does not open from links in SM email. Give us some idea of your settings. Security, html, js, etc. Does your SM mail block remote source content? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
All: Wondering if what I store within SM has anything to do with issues. Have I hit a limit ? There are 3 accounts totaling 4gb of storage... Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Changing subject from unresponsive to CPU Spin From bringing up the error console, it seems that this statement is the last action before SM goes into CPU spin. Timestamp: 6/25/2015 8:40:40 AM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Any idea what this is doing and how to fix it ? I'm on SM 2.33.1 on a Win 7 x64 system. Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Can I re-install SM 2.33.1 over current install without de-install, or do I need to de-install / re-install ? And do you think it might help given the errors below ? Thanks Rodney Sampson Rodney Sampson wrote: Here's a few of the errors from the error console... PAC Execution Error: expected expression, got '' [!doctype html ] PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Timestamp: 6/21/2015 6:14:12 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Timestamp: 6/21/2015 6:14:24 PM Warning: window.controllers is deprecated. Do not use it for UA detection. Source File: chrome://editor/content/ComposerCommands.js Line: 198 Don't know if any of these could send SM into cpu loop... Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee: Installed ran full scan with DiskCheckup (probably better alternative to scandisk) From an earlier post, I saw that Error Console is available, is there a way to trap all the traffic to the console ? Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/18/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Any ideas here ? Might be disk drive problems. So the first thing to do is backup all your hard drives. Trying to determine what events send SM into a spin. Whatever it is, it seems to be happening just to you so I'd be looking at the machine. I have 3 profiles and it happens on all 3 Is one of the three brand new? Probably doesn't matter since There are also times when I start in safe mode, it just sits there but it's nice not starting off with bad assumptions. So... you have cleared your cache, emptied the trash, compressed mail folders ... I'm drawing a blank for what other temporary files SM leaves behind. So, first, is it SeaMonkey or something else like your A/V hanging? Run process explorer https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx and when SM hangs see what's using all the CPU You could also try process monitor https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx and maybe find something. It's a lot like trying to drink from a firehose but it seems like it shows pretty much everything I've booted, cleaned and defragged Disk checkup might show something going bad http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm Have you checked for bad sectors on the disk? It can take hours, so before going to bed open windows explorer, right click on the drive, left click on properties, select the Tools tab, in the Error Checking pane click on check now, select both Automatically fix file system errors Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors and you probably have to reboot. If you have multiple hard drives make sure to check them all Regards, Lee I have several windows dump files from various percentages of CPU load. There are also times when I start in safe mode, it just sits there the UI is dead and may only display the account level, sometimes the folders show up, but no navigation is possible. Still trying to locate debug logging info and how to start it... Apparently the command line flag is for a developer to step thru the code it only starts a DOS window, Thanks Rodney Sampson Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee: Where might the config.txt be buried on a Windows 7 machine ? Proxy helped a little.. Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/15/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: O/S: Win 7 Pro w/ 8gb Ram. I have 3 profiles and it happens on all 3 Straight text works fine, there's something in the mails with embedded images. I've booted, cleaned and defragged , after it freezes, I can restart and sometimes view the mail it got stuck on. It would be helpful if there was a log of loading (websites) so I could see if there's something in common. If SeaMonkey is locking up an addon to show that URLs are referenced probably won't work, so use an external proxy. I like Privoxy: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ logging is disabled by default, so all the following to config.txt logdir c:\temp logfile privoxy.log debug 1 # Log the destination for each request Privoxy let through. See also debug 1024. debug 1024 # Log the destination for requests Privoxy didn't let through, and the reason why.
Re: What version of SM is used by most here?
On 6/25/2015 5:06 PM, chicagofan wrote: What is the most reliable version available now? I've read of so many problems I can't keep up with them, and I've been afraid to upgrade, because my short term memory is so pathetic, and I've also forgotten the steps to upgrade [safely]. I'm assuming instructions will still be at the site where the downloads are. Anyone have a feeling which version has the least problems now? I'm being pushed to do this, because when I was forced to use Firefox the other day to do something, they updated it to version 31. [I didn't know it was set to auto update, I have now changed that.] I will appreciate any suggestions to reduce my anxiety, and take pity on me, because I'm old. :) bj I'm also still on 2.26.1, Win XP. I'm not having any major problems with it other than some minor IMAP issues that are easy to deal with. From what I can tell the few versions after all have bugs that would be show stoppers for me. I'm not worried about security. I keep the big holes (Flash, Acrobat, Java, etc) up to date, use Addblock Plus which tends to stop a lot of virus believe it or not and have good virus software. The only hacks I have ever gotten since the 1990s are due to Acrobat, Java, or Flash exploits. I don't open stupid things. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Issues
There are 145 messages from the same somebody had this same problem a few months ago; the same few emails returning.. there were 3 main suggestions: 1... there is an option somewhere in seamonkey to leave a copy of the message on the server then the server doesn't know that you have got the message, and sends it again. OR 2. there is some similar option in the email-provider's webmail-options, to not delete the old messages.it should keep them filed as already read but maybe there is a glitch in the website that keeps re-sending them. OR 3 if you set seamonkey to truncate any big messages email window edit mail and news account settings discspace messages larger than.. ... then seamonkey only brings in part of the message, and the server tries again to send it. ANYWAY, go to the emailprovider's webmail website, find the message that keeps coming back, and delete all the copies of it that you can find on the website. ..don't know what happened with the previous person who had the problem... i don't recall him writing in, full of gratitude for getting the problem solved. ... jw ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
Rodney Sampson wrote: ... Looks like an array indexing issue... Starting SM in Safe Mode add-ons are disabled, cache , cookies offline are cleared before start. Questions: Is there any way to log exactly what SM is doing ? What websites it's downloading from , etc ? On the average, I have to kill/restart 20 times per day. Getting old fast... I have moved subfolders from the inbox sent, trash junk are emptied multiple times daily. No pre-defined folders have 300 messages. Wish there was a rule or add-on that would save the attachment automatically to a folder. More suggestions please ? Can we assume that you've been compacting folders periodically or after large-scale deletions? Remember, delete, as it does elsewhere in the computing world, means hide from the user. So a folder that has undergone multiple deletions will have a lot of hidden content that the program must purposely disregard, and the index file will be needlessly complex. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser does not open from links in email! FIXED
Mike C wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Mike C wrote: Doesn't anyone have an idea how to fix this?? Browser does not open from links in SM email. Give us some idea of your settings. Security, html, js, etc. Does your SM mail block remote source content? Would you believe it corrected/fixed itself. Working correctly now (smile). Excellent! Better make a back up before it decides to uncorrect. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
I've trimmed out the conversation history and will attempt to comply with list wishes... Synopsis: All of my SM troubles started when from cold boot, I was requested a firewall exception from Akamai Netsession, deinstalled. From that point on, I've been starting SM in safe mode with the error console running. Today, I was navigating to the new O'Rilley email (in preview mode) and it started taking 16% CPU. I have to abort SM with Process Explorer , nothing else is taking 1% except System Idle Time. I have changed the following in SM, hardare acceleration, and connection timeout from 100 to 50. Mail Browser have similar issues. Last things I've seen in the error console is the following: Timestamp: 6/26/2015 4:22:54 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Timestamp: 6/26/2015 4:47:10 PM Error: document.getElementById(...).SelectLocale is not a function Source File: chrome://global/content/bindings/preferences.xml line 423 Function Line: 1 Looks like an array indexing issue... Starting SM in Safe Mode add-ons are disabled, cache , cookies offline are cleared before start. Questions: Is there any way to log exactly what SM is doing ? What websites it's downloading from , etc ? On the average, I have to kill/restart 20 times per day. Getting old fast... I have moved subfolders from the inbox sent, trash junk are emptied multiple times daily. No pre-defined folders have 300 messages. Wish there was a rule or add-on that would save the attachment automatically to a folder. More suggestions please ? Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What version of SM is used by most here?
Cruz, Jaime wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is the most reliable version available now? I've read of so many problems I can't keep up with them, and I've been afraid to upgrade, because my short term memory is so pathetic, and I've also forgotten the steps to upgrade [safely]. I'm assuming instructions will still be at the site where the downloads are. Anyone have a feeling which version has the least problems now? I'm being pushed to do this, because when I was forced to use Firefox the other day to do something, they updated it to version 31. [I didn't know it was set to auto update, I have now changed that.] I will appreciate any suggestions to reduce my anxiety, and take pity on me, because I'm old. :) bj I'm using the most current. Only issue I have is the binary attachments from newsgroups not working properly. That's an old, long-standing issue and not really critical (just REALLY annoying). But the older and older this codebase gets, the more security holes I am exposed to. I think if Firefox goes one more revision with nothing from Seamonkey I may be forced to abandon Seamonkey and go with Firefox/Thunderbird. I've heard it that Thunderbird does not have the issue with binary newsgroup attachments either. I am using a Tinderbox build of SM 2.35. It works pretty well. The only real problem I had was YouTube sending HTML5 videos instead of Flash. There is an extension that can fix that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What version of SM is used by most here?
But, to answer your question, I am using 2.33, on W7U-64, and have no issues. v2.33.1 gave you issues? For me, I use v2.33.1 to be updated and secured. -- Ants never lend, ants never borrow. --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
This connection is untrusted
PLEASE! Can someone please help me? A few days ago I installed Seamonkey 2.33 on a brand new computer. For a couple of days all worked fine. I was able to transfer all my bookmarks and passwords and settings from my old computer using MozBackup. Then I started having problems with this This connection is untrusted message. It was hit and miss at first, now it stops me from doing virtually anything. I even had to add an exception for the Seamonkey Project website. I can't get into my banks, I can't even get to Youtube. Some strange looking screen pops up. Seamonkey 2.33 is working fine on my older computer. I checked all the settings, comparing one to the other and nothing is different. What could have happened? I don't want to ditch Seamonkey. It's been my go to browser for years. I will NOT use Internet Explorer, and don't really like Chrome or anything else I've tried. Can anyone give me some guidance as to what the hell is going on and how, maybe, to fix it? Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser does not open from links in email!
On 25/06/2015 10:59 PM, Mike C wrote: Doesn't anyone have an idea how to fix this?? Browser does not open from links in SM email. Mike, I responded last night to someone (you??) stating that I did not experience this problem with e-mail link in my Win7 SM. The devs cannot fix a problem that does not exist!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What version of SM is used by most here?
On 26/06/2015 8:48 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Snip That has not happened to me since 1991. 1991!! What did you use back then Mosaic or something?? (I can only go back as far as Netscape Navigator 0.9 in 1995 or 1996!) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
