Re: SeaMonkey 2.38 crashes

2015-10-09 Thread Chris Ilias 

On 2015-10-08 2:56 AM, canalgi wrote:

Le dimanche 4 octobre 2015 10:49:23 UTC+2, canalgi a écrit :

Hi,

Since I upgraded to v.2.38, SM crashes on some opening pages, mainly on
videos.
Details:
Application Error
plugin-container.exe, version : 41.0.0.5744
C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\plugin-container.exe
module mozglue.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\mozglue.dll
exception 0x8003
ID processus 0x17f8




Today in my error console:
NS_ERROR_FAILURE:
Fichier source : http://j.adlooxtracking.com/ads/js/tfav_aod2_ban2aod.js
Ligne : 40
DEPRECATION WARNING: The arguments you're passing to viewSource.xul are using 
an out-of-date API.
You may find more details about this deprecation at: 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Code_snippets/View_Source_for_XUL_Applications
chrome://global/content/viewSource.js 316 _loadViewSourceDeprecated
chrome://global/content/viewSource.js 302 onXULLoaded
chrome://global/content/viewSource.js 175 handleEvent
null 0 null

Fichier source : resource://gre/modules/Deprecated.jsm
Ligne : 79



In about:crashes, click on your latest crash report. That should take 
you to a web page starting with 
"https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/;

Open a reply to this post and paste the address of your latest crash report.
We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a better 
idea of what is causing the problem.

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Re: Emojicons support?

2015-10-09 Thread Ant 

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their 
future versions? :/

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Re: Emojicons support?

2015-10-09 Thread Ray_Net 

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their 
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?
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Re: Impact of Changing Account Name

2015-10-09 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
David E. Ross wrote:
> On 10/9/2015 12:29 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Will there be any impact if I change the existing account name to something
>> else? Will folders and filters automatically follow to the new account name?
>>
> 
> I would first save a copy of your entire profile.

Done
> 
> If you mean the name of your SeaMonkey profile, go to [Tools > Switch
> Profile].  Select the Manage Profiles button.  Select the profile you
> want to change and then select Rename Profile.
> 
> If you mean the name of a mail-news account, open the Mail & Newsgroups
> window.  Select the account, right-click, and select Settings from the
> pull-down context menu.  On the main Settings pane, change Account Name.

Will try on my Spare computer first to see what happens
> 
> If you have trouble afterwards, restore your profile from the saved copy.
> 

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Re: Emojicons support?

2015-10-09 Thread Ray_Net 

Philip Chee wrote on 09/10/2015 16:33:

On 09/10/2015 14:35, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.

So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?

I believe that emoji support is already present in Core code. What else
is needed is a suitable emoji font available from the Operating System.
On certain platforms that support colour emoji we also can also display
that.

http://blog.symbolset.com/multicolor-fonts
https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2015/09/firefox-os-emoji/


Phil

I think that my OS did not contains such fonts installed, and I will not 
install another font. ... so I prefer that SM don't care about that.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38 crashes

2015-10-09 Thread David H. Durgee 

David H. Durgee wrote:

Are crash logs being looked at automatically, or do we need to bring
them up here?  I have had two since upgrading to 2.38 here:

http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-708f1f39-3fd0-4d40-abfc-847d82151001


http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-dc306124-efd3-4935-b73f-b07a42151003


Both have the same signature:

js::jit::GetPropertyIC::tryAttachArgumentsLength(JSContext*,
JS::Handle, js::jit::IonScript*, JS::Handle, JS::Handle, bool*)

Both occurred under the same circumstances, hitting alt-back_arrow to
back up in a tab and things went boom!


Jet another crash with this signature:

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/330097c3-38dc-435b-a44c-2f7872151009

Anything I can do to avoid this?

Dave
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Re: Impact of Changing Account Name

2015-10-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

David E. Ross wrote:


On 10/9/2015 12:29 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Will there be any impact if I change the existing account name to something
else? Will folders and filters automatically follow to the new account name?


I would first save a copy of your entire profile.

If you mean the name of your SeaMonkey profile, go to [Tools > Switch
Profile].  Select the Manage Profiles button.  Select the profile you
want to change and then select Rename Profile.

If you mean the name of a mail-news account, open the Mail & Newsgroups
window.  Select the account, right-click, and select Settings from the
pull-down context menu.  On the main Settings pane, change Account Name.

If you have trouble afterwards, restore your profile from the saved copy.


I've changed account names many times with no consequences whatsoever. 
It doesn't change the folder name in the profile, which is set when the 
account is created, it just changes the display name for my convenience.


Still, better safe than sorry; there's never any harm in backing 
anything up at any stage of a procedure.


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Re: Impact of Changing Account Name

2015-10-09 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


On 10/9/2015 12:29 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Will there be any impact if I change the existing account name to
something
else? Will folders and filters automatically follow to the new
account name?


I would first save a copy of your entire profile.

If you mean the name of your SeaMonkey profile, go to [Tools > Switch
Profile].  Select the Manage Profiles button.  Select the profile you
want to change and then select Rename Profile.

If you mean the name of a mail-news account, open the Mail & Newsgroups
window.  Select the account, right-click, and select Settings from the
pull-down context menu.  On the main Settings pane, change Account Name.

If you have trouble afterwards, restore your profile from the saved copy.


I've changed account names many times with no consequences whatsoever.
It doesn't change the folder name in the profile, which is set when the
account is created, it just changes the display name for my convenience.



I can confirm this, my gmail account's physical mail folder is still 
named for my original old dialup ISP mail server.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

2015-10-09 Thread Exalm 

Adrian Kalla пишет:

At the end we have some annoying GTK3 issues that somehow do hit just us
and not Fx mentioned in the thread "2.40a1 missing scrollbar indicator
arrow buttons": 

They aren't displayed because certain (although most) GTK3 themes 
request not to display them.
On Firefox that's expected behavior, but on SM there's also Modern 
theme, which should display them even in that case.


Other issues don't hit Fx because they use much less native styling, so 
the issues (such as the bugged tabs) just aren't visible as much as they 
are on SM.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

2015-10-09 Thread Daniel 

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:45:06 +1100, Daniel 
wrote:


On 8/10/2015 5:42 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 8/10/2015 5:26 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Thank you,ewong, for reminding me to check for new betas!!


Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Maybe here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I thought nightly's were pre-alpha!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

2015-10-09 Thread Daniel 

Adrian Kalla wrote:

W dniu 10/09/2015 o 05:26 AM, Adrian Kalla pisze:

W dniu 10/08/2015 o 08:45 AM, Daniel pisze:

Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Hmmm, maybe ewong was talking about self-compiled builds?
Or mine that I post here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/


Or the tinderbox builds here:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux/


Ah!! Right.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:21.0) 
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Re: Emojicons support?

2015-10-09 Thread Philip Chee 
On 09/10/2015 14:35, Ray_Net wrote:
> Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:
>> On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>>> The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
>>> user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
>>> automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
>>> Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
>>> ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
>>> for them.
>>
>> So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their 
>> future versions? :/
> Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?

I believe that emoji support is already present in Core code. What else
is needed is a suitable emoji font available from the Operating System.
On certain platforms that support colour emoji we also can also display
that.

http://blog.symbolset.com/multicolor-fonts
https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2015/09/firefox-os-emoji/


Phil

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Re: Emojicons support?

2015-10-09 Thread Ray_Net 

WaltS48 wrote on 09/10/2015 15:42:

On 10/09/2015 02:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?



He does, because his correspondents send him messages from their 
smartphones with emojis.


If his system has the appropriate fonts installed, SeaMonkey and 
Thunderbird may or may not show them.



Yes, I understand BUT SeaMonkey had decided to NOT USE installed fonts.
I think, that's because a lot of people did not have the expected fonts 
installed.

Otherwise we will be obliged to install TOO many fonts.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39 beta GTK3 issues

2015-10-09 Thread WaltS48 

On 10/09/2015 07:01 AM, Daniel wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:45:06 +1100, Daniel 
wrote:


On 8/10/2015 5:42 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 8/10/2015 5:26 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has encountered any issues with
the GTK3 built version of 2.39.

TB and Firefox backed out the necessary manifests[1] in order
to build with gtk3 and I'm wondering if it's necessary
for us to follow suite.

Edmund

[1] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1207310


Thank you,ewong, for reminding me to check for new betas!!


Hmm! Cannot see 2.39 listed on
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/


Maybe here:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


I thought nightly's were pre-alpha!




I thought Nightlies were alpha, aurora is beta, beta is release 
candidate and release usually ticks off a portion of users.


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Re: Emojicons support?

2015-10-09 Thread WaltS48 

On 10/09/2015 02:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?



He does, because his correspondents send him messages from their 
smartphones with emojis.


If his system has the appropriate fonts installed, SeaMonkey and 
Thunderbird may or may not show them.


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Impact of Changing Account Name

2015-10-09 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
Will there be any impact if I change the existing account name to something
else? Will folders and filters automatically follow to the new account name?
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Re: Impact of Changing Account Name

2015-10-09 Thread David E. Ross 
On 10/9/2015 12:29 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> Will there be any impact if I change the existing account name to something
> else? Will folders and filters automatically follow to the new account name?
> 

I would first save a copy of your entire profile.

If you mean the name of your SeaMonkey profile, go to [Tools > Switch
Profile].  Select the Manage Profiles button.  Select the profile you
want to change and then select Rename Profile.

If you mean the name of a mail-news account, open the Mail & Newsgroups
window.  Select the account, right-click, and select Settings from the
pull-down context menu.  On the main Settings pane, change Account Name.

If you have trouble afterwards, restore your profile from the saved copy.

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