Re: Page doesn't open Seamonkey 2.38

[Daniel]

On 24/10/2015 11:53 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 23/10/2015 03:42, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Probably a server issue; when I got the blank screen I did CTRL-U to
view the source code and that was blank, too. After a reload all was
well.


When that happened to me a few weeks ago, I used wget to grab
the webpage, and the server was timing out. Couldn't Mozilla
report an error instead of just displaying a blank page?!
It's rather confusing.


Agreed.

But it depends what the server is sending. If it really sends nothing or
doesn't respond, a software routine could detect that; you'd probably
get a 404 error or something. But if it sends something that you and I
perceive as blank that isn't quite blank -- say, a single space
character -- the software would not be able to analyze and evaluate that
as "not interesting enough."

Hang On!! The Mozilla server is too busy to send you the page that you 
want, so you want the server to send you another, admittedly simpler, 
web page instead!!


Does anyone else see the problem there?? ;-P

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150904215228

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[Alex Beauroy]

On 18/10/2015 18:59, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards


First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder.
1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties".
2. Click on [Repair Folder].


Thanks a lot Chris!!!
I've tried this several times but I still can get the latest sent e-mails.
And this is going on since Oct the 10th
I've also tried to uninstall and re-install SeaMonkey
but it still doesn't work.
Let me know what you think
Best Regards
@lex
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Re: Page doesn't open Seamonkey 2.38

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On 10/17/2015 02:57 PM, Ron wrote:

I've had this problem on a few pages most recently:

http://www.bustatech.com/webcamviewer-a-simple-viewer-for-webcam/

Opens in IE



Something here might help.




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Re: Page doesn't open Seamonkey 2.38

[WaltS48]

On 10/25/2015 04:46 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 24/10/2015 11:53 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 23/10/2015 03:42, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Probably a server issue; when I got the blank screen I did CTRL-U to
view the source code and that was blank, too. After a reload all was
well.


When that happened to me a few weeks ago, I used wget to grab
the webpage, and the server was timing out. Couldn't Mozilla
report an error instead of just displaying a blank page?!
It's rather confusing.


Agreed.

But it depends what the server is sending. If it really sends nothing or
doesn't respond, a software routine could detect that; you'd probably
get a 404 error or something. But if it sends something that you and I
perceive as blank that isn't quite blank -- say, a single space
character -- the software would not be able to analyze and evaluate that
as "not interesting enough."


Hang On!! The Mozilla server is too busy to send you the page that you
want, so you want the server to send you another, admittedly simpler,
web page instead!!

Does anyone else see the problem there?? ;-P



I don't think the Mozilla server is involved.

They want Mozilla to include error messages in the browser code, which I 
think it already does.


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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[Jonathan N. Little]

Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards
@lex


Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local
directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of
that mail account.

Example:

C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]



AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will
not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path
or use the ENV var

%APPDATA%

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]



In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox
Sent folder

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent




Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings"
inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder".
May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it
Let me know what you think


You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that 
account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When 
sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See 
my example





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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[Alex Beauroy]

On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards
@lex


Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local
directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of
that mail account.

Example:

C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]


AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will
not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path
or use the ENV var

%APPDATA%

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]


In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox
Sent folder

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent


Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings" 
inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder". 
May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it

Let me know what you think
Best Regards
@lex
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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[Alex Beauroy]

On 25/10/2015 20:51, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-10-25 7:17 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 18/10/2015 18:59, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have
checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards


First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder.
1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties".
2. Click on [Repair Folder].


Thanks a lot Chris!!!
I've tried this several times but I still can get the latest sent
e-mails.
And this is going on since Oct the 10th
I've also tried to uninstall and re-install SeaMonkey
but it still doesn't work.


Make sure View-->Messages and View-->Threads are both set to All.


Yeah !!! Got it working now!!! Thanks a lot Chris!!!
But I just realize that the "View" box where you can sometime
put these choices like "unread", or select "Tags" was set with the value 
: "Personal"

That is the first time that I've seen this kind of possible choice.
After setting the "View" with ALL I got it working.
And the funny thing is that there is not anymore "Personal" displayed as 
a choice..

Just "All"; "Unread";and several choices of "Custom views".
How did this happen, I can't say.
It took me 16 days to work this out. Thanks a lot Chris
Best Regards
@lex

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Note on Junk folder aging

[Paul B. Gallagher]

As you know, the Junk folder has a feature where the user can specify 
that messages older than nn days are automatically deleted (actually, 
moved to Trash).


Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | Junk Settings
[x] Automatically delete junk mail older than nn days

It turns out that his wording is easily misunderstood. The phrase "junk 
mail" does not mean "messages in the Junk folder"; it means "messages 
tagged as Junk."


The Junk folder can receive messages in three ways:

1) When a message is tagged as Junk, SM automatically moves it to the 
Junk folder if the user has set this preference:

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Junk & Suspect Mail
When I mark messages as junk
(•) Move them to the account's "Junk" folder

2) When a message is moved to the Junk folder by a user-defined filter

3) When the user manually moves a message to the Junk folder.

Most users probably assume that any message that lands in Junk is 
equally subject to the same aging policy.


It turns out that only messages tagged as Junk are deleted 
automatically. But messages arriving in the Junk folder that are not 
marked as Junk remain there indefinitely.


So my advice is that when creating filters that move messages to the 
Junk folder, users should remember to include Junk marking as one of the 
actions taken. And when manually moving messages to Junk, the right way 
of doing it is to simply hit "J" to tag the message as Junk and let SM 
do the move itself.


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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[Alex Beauroy]

On 25/10/2015 14:20, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have
checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards
@lex


Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local
directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of
that mail account.

Example:

C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]




AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will
not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path
or use the ENV var

%APPDATA%

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]




In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox
Sent folder

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent





Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings"
inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder".
May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it
Let me know what you think


You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that
account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When
sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See
my example





Thanks Jonathan,
I understand , and in my "Mail & Newsgroup Accounts settings" I have 
checked the option : "Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder".

But since Oct the 10th it had stopped working.
I had in mind that other SeaMonkey users had experienced this and that 
the developers had a solution for this.
So to summarize my problem it have been working perfectly as you 
describe it : "It is auto-generated after send an email on that

> account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When
> sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. " 
but the very last e-mail sent in this folder is dated 10/10/2015.
I can manage with that as I am now manually "BCC:" my e-mails to another 
e-mail address but I think that it is better to improve the quality of 
SeaMonkey by warning the users and developers.

Best Regards
@lex
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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[Jonathan N. Little]

Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 25/10/2015 14:20, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have
checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards
@lex


Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local
directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of
that mail account.

Example:

C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]





AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you
will
not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path
or use the ENV var

%APPDATA%

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]





In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's
mbox
Sent folder

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent






Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings"
inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder".
May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it
Let me know what you think


You should not have to. It is auto-generated after send an email on that
account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When
sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. See
my example





Thanks Jonathan,
I understand , and in my "Mail & Newsgroup Accounts settings" I have
checked the option : "Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder".
But since Oct the 10th it had stopped working.
I had in mind that other SeaMonkey users had experienced this and that
the developers had a solution for this.
So to summarize my problem it have been working perfectly as you
describe it : "It is auto-generated after send an email on that
 > account *IF* in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" you have "When
 > sending messages:" enabled and the Sent folder set to that account. "
but the very last e-mail sent in this folder is dated 10/10/2015.
I can manage with that as I am now manually "BCC:" my e-mails to another
e-mail address but I think that it is better to improve the quality of
SeaMonkey by warning the users and developers.


It looks like you may have had a filesystem error external to SM. If the 
mbox file 'Sent' in that mail account's physical directory location gets 
deleted or corrupted this could account for you trouble. This is where 
*backups* are essential.


You could have used a backup from *before* 10/10/2015, find the 
specified 'Sent' file and copy it to that location and name something 
like 'SentBackup' so as not to overwrite the existing 'Sent' file. Of 
course do this without SeaMonkey running. Then start SeaMonkey and you 
will now see a new "folder" in that account named 'SentBackup' which 
would have all your old sent messages. Then you could drag and drop in 
SeaMonkey the messages from 'SentBackup' to 'Sent' which would 
reconstruct it. Once restored delete 'SentBackup'.



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Re: Page doesn't open Seamonkey 2.38

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

On 24/10/2015 11:53 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 23/10/2015 03:42, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Probably a server issue; when I got the blank screen I did CTRL-U to
view the source code and that was blank, too. After a reload all was
well.


When that happened to me a few weeks ago, I used wget to grab
the webpage, and the server was timing out. Couldn't Mozilla
report an error instead of just displaying a blank page?!
It's rather confusing.


Agreed.

But it depends what the server is sending. If it really sends nothing or
doesn't respond, a software routine could detect that; you'd probably
get a 404 error or something. But if it sends something that you and I
perceive as blank that isn't quite blank -- say, a single space
character -- the software would not be able to analyze and evaluate that
as "not interesting enough."


Hang On!! The Mozilla server is too busy to send you the page that you
want, so you want the server to send you another, admittedly simpler,
web page instead!!

Does anyone else see the problem there?? ;-P


I didn't say that, so I won't defend it. I was just talking about the 
logical (im)possibility of having the browser do what was requested.


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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[EE]

Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 18/10/2015 15:46, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards
@lex


Look under "Server Settings" for that account and under "Local
directory" will give to the local path to the containing directory of
that mail account.

Example:

C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]



AppData is hidden by default so unless you have set in Explorer you will
not be able to see this path, and may have to specify the complete path
or use the ENV var

%APPDATA%

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]



In that folder there should be a "Sent" file which is the account's mbox
Sent folder

%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default\Mail\mail.[MAIL_SERVER_URL]\Sent




Thanks for your quick answer. After looking from the "server settings"
inside the "Local Directory" I have not been able to find "Sent Folder".
May be this folder must be a hided file, or do I have to create it
Let me know what you think
Best Regards
@lex


The profile is a hidden directory, so you have to prevent the hiding of 
files to see anything in it.


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Re: Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder

[Chris Ilias]

On 2015-10-25 7:17 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 18/10/2015 18:59, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-10-17 5:55 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

Unable to find sent e-mail in the sent folder although I have checked in
"Mail settings"
Automatically place a copy in "Sent" folder
Best Regards


First try something simple, like repairing the Sent folder.
1. Right-click on the folder and select "Properties".
2. Click on [Repair Folder].


Thanks a lot Chris!!!
I've tried this several times but I still can get the latest sent e-mails.
And this is going on since Oct the 10th
I've also tried to uninstall and re-install SeaMonkey
but it still doesn't work.


Make sure View-->Messages and View-->Threads are both set to All.

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