Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-20 Thread Richmond
Hawker  writes:

>>
>> I see something broken too. I am on 2.49a2. The "search tools" is on the
>> left instead of the right as it is in firefox.
>>
>
> Good to know it isn't just me. This is a pretty big issue for me.
> I tried Ralph Fox's idea with no luck. I get a space where the mouse pointer
> changes to a I beam but clicking does nothing.
> My current work around is to use "advanced search" which is an overkill PITA.
>
> Any idea what the issue is and what can be done to fix this? Seems to be a
> major bug.  Disheartened to hear that 2.49 still has this issue.

I can make it work in the way described by Ralph's first work-around.

Disabling Javascript seems to make the problem go away by placing the
search options in a menu on the left. Disabling javascript completely is
impractical but using noscript to disable it just for google might be a
solution.

My Seamonkey 2.49a2 identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49a2. So I thught maybe
this is a bug which hasn't yet reached my firefox which is still on 51 I
think. But that doesn't fit with the problem being in Seamonkey 2.40.

I suppose the thing to do is to see if it has been recorded on bugzilla
and if not then raise it on there, and then it will be rejected if it is
down to google and not to a fault in the browser.

I might do that shortly.
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Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-20 Thread Ralph Fox

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:15:38 -0500, Hawker wrote:

On 12/20/2016 7:48 AM, Richmond wrote:

Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid> writes:


Yesterday Google's search broke for using the "Settings" or "Tools"
feature in SM 2.40 for me. It works in Firefox still.
If I try to use Tools I get the "any time" and "all results" to the
right of Tools not below as it should be. I can't click on the time to
change it.

I tried an new clean profile with the same results.
Any idea?



If I hold my mouse just below the "any time", there is a level where
"any time" changes from grey to black.  If I click at that level, I get
the drop-down to change the time.



I see something broken too. I am on 2.49a2. The "search tools" is on the
left instead of the right as it is in firefox.



Good to know it isn't just me. This is a pretty big issue for me.
I tried Ralph Fox's idea with no luck. I get a space where the mouse
pointer changes to a I beam but clicking does nothing.


Here, it works where the mouse pointer changes to a _hand_.
Animated screen-shot to illustrate: --> http://i.imgur.com/OfK8K7E.gif

If my first idea still doesn't work, change your User Agent string (my 
second idea above).




My current work around is to use "advanced search" which is an overkill
PITA.

Any idea what the issue is and what can be done to fix this? Seems to be
a major bug.


IIRC it used to work in SeaMonkey 2.40.  If so, SeaMonkey 2.40 has not 
changed -- Google has.


FYI Google only supports the most recent two versions of major browsers
(Firefox, Chrome, IE, Edge).  SeaMonkey 2.40 looks like Gecko/Firefox 
43.0  Google appears to have updated its HTML/JavaScript and relegated

Gecko/Firefox 43.0 to "historical" status.

--
Kind regards
Ralph
🦊

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Re: choose option to start seamonkey online or offline

2016-12-20 Thread Ray_Net

Peter Anton wrote on 20-12-16 21:19:
I can't for the life of me find the option to set the startup 
online/offline mode for Seamonkey 2.40 (and all previous versions.) 
I'm setting up some laptops and have looked through Preferences too 
many times to continue that vain search.  Help!



From: Paul B. Gallagher
Is this what you need ?
Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage:

When starting up:
[Ask me for online state at startup]
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Re: option to start seamonkey online or offline

2016-12-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

PeterAntonRev wrote:


Pardon my stupidity: I have Seamonkey on my desktop to give me the
choice to work online or offline when I start the program.  I'm
setting up some new laptops and cannot for the life of me find the
option in Preferences (or perhaps elsewhere)to set that choice. It's
driving me crazy... please help me!


Not stupidity (inability to think or learn), but ignorance (lack of 
knowledge). Ignorance is easily cured...


Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage:

When starting up:
[Remember previous online state]
[Ask me for online state at startup]
[Always start up online]
[Always start up offline]
[Detect automatically (if available)]

Pull down the desired option.

--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

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choose option to start seamonkey online or offline

2016-12-20 Thread Peter Anton
I can't for the life of me find the option to set the startup 
online/offline mode for Seamonkey 2.40 (and all previous versions.) I'm 
setting up some laptops and have looked through Preferences too many 
times to continue that vain search.  Help!


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option to start seamonkey online or offline

2016-12-20 Thread PeterAntonRev
Pardon my stupidity: I have Seamonkey on my desktop to give me the choice to 
work online or offline when I start the program.  I'm setting up some new 
laptops and cannot for the life of me find the option in Preferences (or 
perhaps elsewhere)to set that choice. It's driving me crazy... please help me!
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Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-20 Thread Hawker

On 12/20/2016 7:48 AM, Richmond wrote:

Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid> writes:


Yesterday Google's search broke for using the "Settings" or "Tools"
feature in SM 2.40 for me. It works in Firefox still.
If I try to use Tools I get the "any time" and "all results" to the
right of Tools not below as it should be. I can't click on the time to
change it.

I tried an new clean profile with the same results.
Any idea?



If I hold my mouse just below the "any time", there is a level where
"any time" changes from grey to black.  If I click at that level, I get
the drop-down to change the time.



I see something broken too. I am on 2.49a2. The "search tools" is on the
left instead of the right as it is in firefox.



Good to know it isn't just me. This is a pretty big issue for me.
I tried Ralph Fox's idea with no luck. I get a space where the mouse 
pointer changes to a I beam but clicking does nothing.
My current work around is to use "advanced search" which is an overkill 
PITA.


Any idea what the issue is and what can be done to fix this? Seems to be 
a major bug.  Disheartened to hear that 2.49 still has this issue.

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Re: From Windows to Linux - HELP please

2016-12-20 Thread NFN Smith

Richard Owlett wrote:

I am currently running SeaMonkey 2.40 under WinXP  Pro on Machine-A.
I wish to run SeaMonkey 2.40 on Machine-B which has Debian Jessie (Mate
as DE).

 Downloading the appropriate file, unpacking it, placing results in my
Home folder, and marking seamonkey as executable goes well. As has
creating a launcher on desktop. A test run shows no problems.

I wish to duplicate my profile from Machine-A on Machine-B. The profile
to be in /home/richard.


The good news is that profiles are mostly portable, from platform to 
platform.  The link you posted in your follow-up notes a couple of small 
things to account for -- menu navigation that's slightly different, 
differences in fonts, extensions that may be platform-specific, etc.


The key thing is mostly a matter of location.

In Windows, your profile is in %HOMEDIR%\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles.  In 
Debian-based systems (and I'm assuming that for this Debian and Ubuntu 
work the same way), the profile is located in ~/.mozilla/seamonkey.


On the Debian side, what you want to do is launch Seamonkey, and let the 
profile manager run -- you don't have to complete it, but let it get as 
far as the first dialog.  That will be sufficient to create the profile.


The thing that you don't want to do (actually, you can, if you want, but 
it's more effort) is to edit the contents of the profiles.ini file. Take 
the contents of the directory specified by the profiles.ini file on the 
Windows side, and then copy to directory specified by the profiles.ini 
on the Debian side.


In discussions of backup methodologies, there are some that insist on 
copying profiles.ini, and then if it comes to shuffling profile 
contents, editing profiles.ini, and ensuring that a new profile on a new 
machine has an identical name as the original profile.  For me, I'm 
content to use the profile manager, and let it assign the directory 
names, and simply copy the contents of the profile directory.


One other suggestion: if you normally do POP for mail, rather than IMAP, 
I suggest tweaking the settings on both the old and new profiles to 
"leave messages on server", and setting the retention period for 
something like a week, at least while you're in transition. Doing this 
will allow you to get to all your mail from either machine, until you're 
satisfied that everything on the new machine is performing the way you 
want. After the transition is complete, you can return to your previous 
retention settings.


Smith
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Re: From Windows to Linux - HELP please

2016-12-20 Thread Richard Owlett

On 12/19/2016 11:53 AM, Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Richard Owlett a écrit le 19/12/2016 à 17:45 :

I am currently running SeaMonkey 2.40 under WinXP  Pro on Machine-A.
I wish to run SeaMonkey 2.40 on Machine-B which has Debian Jessie
(Mate as DE).

   Downloading the appropriate file, unpacking it, placing results
in my Home folder, and marking seamonkey as executable goes well.
As has creating a launcher on desktop. A test run shows no problems.

I wish to duplicate my profile from Machine-A on Machine-B. The
profile to be in /home/richard.

How?
TIA



In Linux desktop, the .file and .directories are usually visible with
Ctrl H.


You can simply copy your profile directory, informations here :




That link does not cover moving between operating systems.
I was looking for something like 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_from_Windows_to_Linux#Moving_your_profile_data. 
I just re-read it and it is more useful after a good night's sleep ;/



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Re: Google Search Tools broken

2016-12-20 Thread Richmond
Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid> writes:

>> Yesterday Google's search broke for using the "Settings" or "Tools"
>> feature in SM 2.40 for me. It works in Firefox still.
>> If I try to use Tools I get the "any time" and "all results" to the
>> right of Tools not below as it should be. I can't click on the time to
>> change it.
>>
>> I tried an new clean profile with the same results.
>> Any idea?
>
>
> If I hold my mouse just below the "any time", there is a level where 
> "any time" changes from grey to black.  If I click at that level, I get 
> the drop-down to change the time.
>

I see something broken too. I am on 2.49a2. The "search tools" is on the
left instead of the right as it is in firefox.
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