Re: moderation

2017-08-28 Thread cmcadams

null wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Was reading mozilla.support.seamonkey and thought to myself,
"geez.. there's certainly a lot of spam..  where's the moderation.."

That's when my internal voice trailed off and said... 'oh'.

So this is a heads-up.  If you see an influx of old messages  you
can blame it on me.  (or the rain, if you wish. :) )

To those affected by this, my humblest apologies.

Edmund



I'll blame the rain, Edmund. :)

Craig

Perhaps we should all just learn Italian . . . .


If it wasn't for bitter Italians (or one amazingly prolific bitter Italian) a lot of 
newsgroups nowadays would be entirely bereft...


Craig
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Re: moderation

2017-08-28 Thread NFN Smith

null wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Was reading mozilla.support.seamonkey and thought to myself,
"geez.. there's certainly a lot of spam..  where's the moderation.."

That's when my internal voice trailed off and said... 'oh'.

So this is a heads-up.  If you see an influx of old messages  you
can blame it on me.  (or the rain, if you wish. :) )

To those affected by this, my humblest apologies.

Edmund



I'll blame the rain, Edmund. :)

Craig

Perhaps we should all just learn Italian . . . .


Reading from News, I think I've seen one or two of the Italian spams in 
the last week or so. I've got a filter rule in place for that stuff that 
seems to be reasonably effective (including killing threads), although I 
had to add one more new term.  Logs indicate that there were 3 threads 
killed on the 27th, and that's it.


I'm not sure what that all looks like for those reading from mailing list.

Smith

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 Certificates

2017-08-28 Thread Daniel

On 28/08/2017 1:26 AM, Lee wrote:

On 8/27/17, Daniel  wrote:

On 27/08/2017 2:17 PM, David Guymer wrote:

David Guymer wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/26/2017 12:34 AM, David Guymer wrote:

There is something wrong with SeaMonkey 2.48.Every page I go to I get
a
certificate warning.

I have aspersky Total Security 18.0. I have imported the Certificate
from this program with the same warning afterwards.

All other browswers are unaffected. News and mail are unaffected in
SeaMonkey.

David Guymer



Give us a link to an affected Web page, a page that does not require a
login to an account that I do not have.



https://www.foxtel.com.au/my-account


Another important site that won't load is
https://my.gov.au/LoginServices/main/login?execution=e1s1

David Guymer


My SM 2.48 gets me to the my.gov.au "Secret Question" page  just
like it has done for years!!


Unless you've got Kaspersky installed on your machine & configured to
check all web traffic your situation is totally different.

see, for example,  https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=978
  Kasperky installs a WFP driver to intercept all outgoing HTTPS
connections. They effectively proxy SSL connections, inserting their
own certificate as a trusted authority in the system store and then
replace all leaf certificates on-the-fly. This is why if you examine a
certificate when using Kaspersky Antivirus, the issuer appears to be
"Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal Root".

Lee


Ah!! No Kasperky, so Sorry for distracting you.

Daniel

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.48 Build identifier: 20170329183526

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Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

2017-08-28 Thread null

Mason83 wrote:

On 27/08/2017 19:00, null wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 27/08/2017 17:26, null wrote:


So you got that test video I referenced to play before it was removed by
the user, so you were able to get that info from the stats for geeks,
right?

Correct.


In my case, that video, and others that won't play DO show some
geek info, but the line labelled "Mime type" shows no data.
The videos that DO play DO show that kind of data.

Can you play this old video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HtMHmyKZa0

It's video/mp4; codecs="avc1.4d401e" like the one you posted.

Yes, I can play it, but the "Info for nerds" says "Mime type : video
webm  codecs='vp8.0 vorbis".

Now why would that differ from what you get, I wonder. One possibility
is that the Youtube error page seems to hint, although without making it
explicitly clear, that Youtube may provide the video in one of several
ways depending on what the viewer has available at their end. Do you
think that this accounts for the different in the details that we each get?

Interesting. It does make sense that Youtube is able
to provide alternative streams for different platforms,
based on their capability... But I had assumed that
these old NBA videos had never been converted to WebM.
Guess I was wrong.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/225685/YouTube_Swiftly_Converts_Videos_in_WebM_Format.html
https://youtube.googleblog.com/2011/04/mmm-mmm-good-youtube-videos-now-served.html


As you say, contrary to what you thought, those links show that Youtube 
was converting everything to webm back then. Interesting to see that 
even back then in 2011, there were what in this thread I referred to as 
"video wars" going on. Of course, nothing stays the same, that was 6 
years ago, new issues have arisen since then.

I tried looking for old videos with few hits, maybe these
have not been converted yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5JPITBuJjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEvz394GWD4
For me, these come as webm and play okay in SM. As an aside, and 
certainly not wishing to start a discussion about pop music, one of 
those links has what looks like a quite old clip of the young Arnel 
Pineda, the Filipino singer with the astounding "Steve Perry 2.0" voice, 
discovered by Journey and used by them to replace Steve who had retired 
from the band. Very into all this, never seen that sort of old stuff, 
very interesting.

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Re: twin email accounts

2017-08-28 Thread null

Vincent Smith wrote:

Dear Sea Monkey,

I had a scour on your web page on this issue, but couldn't come up 
with anything. I have Sea Monkey 2.48 on my late 2013 iMAC, now 
running osSierra. My problem is, that in the email window the left 
hand side window has all my email accounts etc in it, but I have two 
versions of some of the accounts - one being POP and the other IMAP. I 
did this to try and retrieve some accidentally deleted local folders 
that once existed in Thunderbird, but to no avail. So, to take one of 
these, I have a POP email account (The above email address), and 
another IMAP version - both using the same password. The intention was 
to sort things out, and then keep the POP accounts, but delete the 
IMAP accounts. It suits me better, as I do not want to have anything 
to do with iCloud - or Google for that matter. However, when I try to 
go into the setup facility,
Do you mean the Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings window in SM where 
you can configure everything to do with POP mail, IMAP mail, and 
newsgroups?
I cannot check which one is which - so as to delete the right one 
safely. I get an error message saying that "there is already an 
account with this email address" etc., 


What, EXACTLY, do you do that results in that error message?

and it won't let me in to the necessary information. Is there a way 
around this, or at least how can I correctly identify which version of 
the account is which?


Kind Regards,

Vince Smith.


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Re: moderation

2017-08-28 Thread null

cmcadams wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Was reading mozilla.support.seamonkey and thought to myself,
"geez.. there's certainly a lot of spam..  where's the moderation.."

That's when my internal voice trailed off and said... 'oh'.

So this is a heads-up.  If you see an influx of old messages  you
can blame it on me.  (or the rain, if you wish. :) )

To those affected by this, my humblest apologies.

Edmund



I'll blame the rain, Edmund. :)

Craig

Perhaps we should all just learn Italian . . . .
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Re: moderation

2017-08-28 Thread cmcadams

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Was reading mozilla.support.seamonkey and thought to myself,
"geez.. there's certainly a lot of spam..  where's the moderation.."

That's when my internal voice trailed off and said... 'oh'.

So this is a heads-up.  If you see an influx of old messages  you
can blame it on me.  (or the rain, if you wish. :) )

To those affected by this, my humblest apologies.

Edmund



I'll blame the rain, Edmund. :)

Craig
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Re: moderation

2017-08-28 Thread Mason83
On 28/08/2017 04:34, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Was reading mozilla.support.seamonkey and thought to myself,
> "geez.. there's certainly a lot of spam..  where's the moderation.."
> 
> That's when my internal voice trailed off and said... 'oh'.
> 
> So this is a heads-up.  If you see an influx of old messages  you
> can blame it on me.  (or the rain, if you wish. :) )
> 
> To those affected by this, my humblest apologies.

Are you saying that legitimate messages were queued up
for moderation? I imagine there is a white-list for
already-seen posters though, right?

Regards.
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