Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-10 Thread Ray_Net 

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11-04-18 06:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?


Why are we obliged to do so ?
I agree with the OP it's stupid to erase the message !
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Re: identify SM as FF

2018-04-10 Thread Daniel 

rjkrjk wrote on 11/04/18 06:22:

how do I indicate SM as Firefox


tks

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rjkrjk, if your e-mail were set up correctly, it would have "-- ", i.e. 
two dashes followed by a space, as the signature delimiter. Then, 
compliant agents would know what follows is a signature file and delete 
it when your e-mail is quoted.


But AVG wants the advertising, so corrupts the sig delimiter to three 
dashes, ... but you can fix things by going into your AVG set-up and 
make it use a compliant sig-delimiter ... somewhere.


rjkrjk, if you *just* want to advertise FireFox (not both FF and SM), 
you have to get into your prefs (about:config) and adjust your UserAgent 
to mention FF in place of SM.


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Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-10 Thread Daniel 

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 11/04/18 14:45:

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?

Alternatively, when a Send fails, maybe a box stating the fail and 
offering to "try again", "save" or "Quit" would be nice!!


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Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-10 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

Mozillian wrote:

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.


Why didn't you CTRL+S and save a draft before canceling?

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Re: identify SM as FF

2018-04-10 Thread Roger Fink 

On 4/10/2018 10:37 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/10/18 4:22 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

how do I indicate SM as Firefox


tks



You already do indicate it as your user agent is "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1"


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We really don't care, so turn off the advertisement.



Bit of a logic problem in that.
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Re: identify SM as FF

2018-04-10 Thread WaltS48 

On 4/10/18 4:22 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

how do I indicate SM as Firefox


tks



You already do indicate it as your user agent is "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1"



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Re: identify SM as FF

2018-04-10 Thread rjkrjk 

tks

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 4/10/18 5:07 PM:

rjkrjk wrote:


how do I indicate SM as Firefox


Do you just want to "advertise Firefox compatibility"? In that case:

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking:
[x] Advertise Firefox compatibility.

This will get you a user agent string that includes both SeaMonkey and Firefox versions, 
like this:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.2

But if you want to "spoof Firefox" by pretending to be using that and eliminating all 
mention of SeaMonkey, you need one of the other options for modifying the UA string, such as 
the various add-ons or configuration settings. Others are more expert on those than I.




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Re: identify SM as FF

2018-04-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

rjkrjk wrote:


how do I indicate SM as Firefox


Do you just want to "advertise Firefox compatibility"? In that case:

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking:
[x] Advertise Firefox compatibility.

This will get you a user agent string that includes both SeaMonkey and 
Firefox versions, like this:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.2


But if you want to "spoof Firefox" by pretending to be using that and 
eliminating all mention of SeaMonkey, you need one of the other options 
for modifying the UA string, such as the various add-ons or 
configuration settings. Others are more expert on those than I.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

2018-04-10 Thread Cecil Bankston 

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and 
the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in 
your browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406&id=46308dfd2a&e=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


This seems to be triggered by SeaMonkey's tracking protection:
   Edit > Preferences > Privacy and Security
   Un-tick "Prevent tracking activities by known sites"

This is probably triggered because the image URLs are of the form, for 
example, 
. 
The long strings seemingly random characters can be (and probably are) 
used by mailchimp.com to detect who has opened the emails. By using 
different random strings in each copy of the email, they know that when 
that particular URL is loaded you must have opened the email. Not that 
that necessarily concerns you, but that's probably why SeaMonkey is 
blocking the images.


Note that in "Private Browsing" mode, it appear tracking protection is 
always active regardless of the above preference.



Thank you.  Your suggestion fixed the problem.  Images now load normally.

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identify SM as FF

2018-04-10 Thread rjkrjk 

how do I indicate SM as Firefox


tks

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Seamonkey stupid

2018-04-10 Thread Mozillian 

Posting a n=message and get an error do the retry but no love.

hit cancel and it kills my post.  COme on how stupid is that !!

I have to retype the whole thing.
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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

2018-04-10 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne 

Cecil Bankston wrote:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406&id=46308dfd2a&e=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


This seems to be triggered by SeaMonkey's tracking protection:
  Edit > Preferences > Privacy and Security
  Un-tick "Prevent tracking activities by known sites"

This is probably triggered because the image URLs are of the form, for 
example, 
. 
The long strings seemingly random characters can be (and probably are) 
used by mailchimp.com to detect who has opened the emails. By using 
different random strings in each copy of the email, they know that when 
that particular URL is loaded you must have opened the email. Not that 
that necessarily concerns you, but that's probably why SeaMonkey is 
blocking the images.


Note that in "Private Browsing" mode, it appear tracking protection is 
always active regardless of the above preference.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

2018-04-10 Thread IRRITATING SPAMMER 

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/9/2018 2:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

If you toggle the pref to disallow unauthenticated content from being
displayed, do the images disappear?

Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | SSL/TLS
[ ] Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages


Unchecked that box, still have images.

It may be significant that the page is served from
https://us2.campaign-archive.com and the images are hosted at
https://gallery.mailchimp.com.  I have "Load All Images" selected in the
preferences permissions.

lj


To the right of that "Load All Images" button is the "Manage 
Permissions" one.  All of my permissions are cookies-related, do you 
have anything weird for either of those two domains involved?  Clutching 
at straws here.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

2018-04-10 Thread Lemuel Johnson 

On 4/9/2018 2:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
If you toggle the pref to disallow unauthenticated content from being 
displayed, do the images disappear?


Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | SSL/TLS
[ ] Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages


Unchecked that box, still have images.

It may be significant that the page is served from 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com and the images are hosted at 
https://gallery.mailchimp.com.  I have "Load All Images" selected in the 
preferences permissions.


lj
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