Re: Is it safe to use Firefox v61's places.sqlite in old SeaMonkey v2.49.4 web browser?

2018-08-21 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Not possible. Format changed too much after 55. It will be flagged as corrupt. 
In theory the last good backup will then be imported and the db initialized.


Might still be possible with 2.53 but there were some changes afterwards too.

Ant wrote:
Or are they incompatible? If it is incompatible, is there a way to downgrade 
this file to make it compatible without losing its datas?

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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

2018-08-21 Thread Daniel

Lee wrote on 21/08/2018 4:59 AM:

On 8/20/18, Daniel  wrote:

Lee wrote on 20/08/2018 3:59 AM:

On 8/19/18, Daniel  wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 19/08/2018 12:18 PM:

Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy I have many duplicates and
the tree structure is a mess. I have two primary goals: 1. find
and purge duplicates. 2. move folders around to create a more
reasonable structure.

After trying several approaches and looking for useful tools I
found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/]. One related page I
found is titled "jq is sed for JSON".

An outline of a possible procedure might be: 1. Export
SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format. 2. use jq to pretty print
the JSON. It does so nicely. 3. Find duplicate targets and
delete all but one. 4. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an
object. Move these objects around to create a more friendly
tree. 5. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

Has anyone done this? Is there a friendly in depth jq tutorial?
The ones I've found tend to be on the "Hello world" level.
There is just enough to tantalize.

Links of interest include:
https://stedolan.github.io/jq/manual/v1.5/
http://stedolan.github.io/jq/tutorial/
https://robots.thoughtbot.com/jq-is-sed-for-json


I have a limited understanding of programming and do not consider
myself a programmer at all. Here is my question: "Would it be
possible to create a plug in that would sort and locate duplicate
bookmarks from within SeaMonkey rather than having to export the
bookmarks and use an outside program?  Isn't there a way to
automate advanced bookmark management using a plug in?"


Most probably someone could write an addon to do that.  But aside
from needing someone to actually write it, Firefox is real close to
dropping support for ESR 52.x - which means all the old addons will
no longer work in any supported version of FF.





open the bookmarks manager and select Tools / Export HTML


Yeap, did the exporting and ended with a bunch of gobble-de-gook!!


If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)

Lee

Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I 
wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!


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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

2018-08-21 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote on 20/08/2018 9:03 PM:

On 08/20/2018 01:28 AM, Daniel wrote:

Lee wrote on 20/08/2018 3:59 AM:

On 8/19/18, Daniel  wrote:





open the bookmarks manager and select Tools / Export HTML


Yeap, did the exporting and ended with a bunch of gobble-de-gook!!


I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.1 {downloaded from the SeaMonkey site} on 
Debian Stretch. The exported HTML file looks fine when displayed by 
SeaMonkey.


It just does not preserve adequate nesting information for my purposes.


and, as presented, I'm unable to edit it either! ;-(

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Re: Where are Downloaded files saved??

2018-08-21 Thread Daniel

WaltS48 wrote on 21/08/2018 1:11 AM:

Daniel wrote:
I guess the installation of SM 2-49-4 will give me a chance to make a 
new, new, clean, profile!!


You have that chance in your SM 2.49.1.

Go to Tools > Switch Profile
Click Manage Profiles
Click Create Profile
Click Next
Enter new profile name
Click Finish
Click Use Profile


Yes, Walt.
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Re: Is it safe to use Firefox v61's places.sqlite in old SeaMonkey v2.49.4 web browser?

2018-08-21 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/21/2018 01:19 AM, Ant wrote:
Or are they incompatible? If it is incompatible, is there a way to 
downgrade this file to make it compatible without losing its datas?


Caution: I use SeaMonkey/2.49.1 on Debian, but have never used Firefox.
If Firefox has a save bookmarks as HTML option there is hope.
You may be be able to use SeaMonkey's HTML import option.
I don't know if it will cleanly preserve folder hierarchy.
BUT it apparently ADDS to your existing bookmarks. So start with a new 
default profile from which you've deleted undesired entries.


If that doesn't work backup your current bookmarks. From what I've been 
reading it will be either compressed or uncompressed JSON. I have a 
project aimed at easily reorganizing bookmarks and removing undesired 
bookmarks. It's input is uncompressed JSON. Frank-Rainer's comments may 
still apply. You can follow my glacial progress on my thread "Using jq 
to clean/organize bookmarks?"


HTH

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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

2018-08-21 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote on 21/08/2018 7:32 PM:

Lee wrote on 21/08/2018 4:59 AM:

On 8/20/18, Daniel  wrote:

Lee wrote on 20/08/2018 3:59 AM:

On 8/19/18, Daniel  wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 19/08/2018 12:18 PM:

Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy I have many duplicates and
the tree structure is a mess. I have two primary goals: 1. find
and purge duplicates. 2. move folders around to create a more
reasonable structure.

After trying several approaches and looking for useful tools I
found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/]. One related page I
found is titled "jq is sed for JSON".

An outline of a possible procedure might be: 1. Export
SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format. 2. use jq to pretty print
the JSON. It does so nicely. 3. Find duplicate targets and
delete all but one. 4. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an
object. Move these objects around to create a more friendly
tree. 5. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

Has anyone done this? Is there a friendly in depth jq tutorial?
The ones I've found tend to be on the "Hello world" level.
There is just enough to tantalize.

Links of interest include:
https://stedolan.github.io/jq/manual/v1.5/
http://stedolan.github.io/jq/tutorial/
https://robots.thoughtbot.com/jq-is-sed-for-json


I have a limited understanding of programming and do not consider
myself a programmer at all. Here is my question: "Would it be
possible to create a plug in that would sort and locate duplicate
bookmarks from within SeaMonkey rather than having to export the
bookmarks and use an outside program?  Isn't there a way to
automate advanced bookmark management using a plug in?"


Most probably someone could write an addon to do that.  But aside
from needing someone to actually write it, Firefox is real close to
dropping support for ESR 52.x - which means all the old addons will
no longer work in any supported version of FF.





open the bookmarks manager and select Tools / Export HTML


Yeap, did the exporting and ended with a bunch of gobble-de-gook!!


If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)

Lee

Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I 
wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!



Just tried with wordpad and the gobble-de-gook was still there.

Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.

Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time, 
both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of 
that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks 
file with different names!!)


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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

2018-08-21 Thread Lee
On 8/21/18, Daniel  wrote:
>>> If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
>>> If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
>>> dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>> Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I
>> wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!
>>
> Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.
>
> Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time,
> both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of
> that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks
> file with different names!!)

You could try the totally non-obvious
  View / Move/Clone Current Document / Clone to other view
in notepad++ or check out
  http://winmerge.org/
to see if that might be more suitable for what you're trying to do

Regards,
Lee
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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

2018-08-21 Thread Daniel

Lee wrote on 22/08/2018 7:59 AM:

On 8/21/18, Daniel  wrote:

If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)

Lee


Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I
wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!


Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.

Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time,
both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of
that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks
file with different names!!)


You could try the totally non-obvious
   View / Move/Clone Current Document / Clone to other view
in notepad++ or check out
   http://winmerge.org/
to see if that might be more suitable for what you're trying to do

Regards,
Lee


Something else to try, thank you, Lee. ;-)

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Bad news for SM 2.49 (based on FF 52)

2018-08-21 Thread Mason83
Hello,

I think this spells bad news for non-WebEx FF forks:

Mozilla to Remove Legacy Firefox Add-Ons From AMO in Early October
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-to-remove-legacy-firefox-add-ons-from-add-on-portal-in-early-october/

Regards.
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