Re: Bad news for SM 2.49 (based on FF 52)

2018-08-25 Thread Daniel

EE wrote on 25/08/2018 5:42 AM:

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 22/08/2018 6:21 PM:
add-on are on thunderbird.net. This is a complete copy. What mozilla 
does here no longer affects us. 2.53 alreday connects to it directly. 
2.49 will in the next version. Currently going a detour thru 
addons.mozilla.org.


Palemoon will have its own add-ons site. Not sure about Waterfox.

FRG

Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

I think this spells bad news for non-WebEx FF forks:

Mozilla to Remove Legacy Firefox Add-Ons From AMO in Early October
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-to-remove-legacy-firefox-add-ons-from-add-on-portal-in-early-october/ 



Regards.

And, (not to suggest I'm checking up on you guys, Frank_Rainer!! ;-) 
), but after click on the SeaMonkey on the top right of the M & N 
screen, I was taken to the SeaMonkey Projects page, clicked on "Add 
Ons" on the left of that page and was taken to 
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/.


Good-oo!!

But prompts the question, as TB is just a M & N program, will SM 
Browser Add Ons also be hosted there??



SeaMonkey themes are also there, and SM extensions are there as well.

I did see that some extensions with versions that used to be for both 
Firefox and SeaMonkey but are now only for Firefox were not copied over. 
  I would really like to see those copied over, at least the older 
versions that worked with SeaMonkey.  Two examples are Web Developer and 
YouTube High Definition.


I seem to recall that, some time ago, SM Browser and FF diverged in some 
manner or other. Maybe the current FF extensions will not work in SM 
Browser, even before FF went to WebExtension or whatever they call it now!!


Just sayin'!!
--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Bad news for SM 2.49 (based on FF 52)

2018-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/24/2018 02:45 PM, EE wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 8/22/2018 8:56 AM, EE wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

I think this spells bad news for non-WebEx FF forks:

Mozilla to Remove Legacy Firefox Add-Ons From AMO in Early October
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-to-remove-legacy-firefox-add-ons-from-add-on-portal-in-early-october/ 



Regards.

That means download installers for whatever Firefox extensions you 
think you will need now and save them as backup copies.  I have not 
updated any themes or extensions for SeaMonkey since version 2.49 
first came out, and I have backup copies for all the installers I need.


Doesn't SM keep the downloaded extension installers locally?


In its profile it does, but the names are not always easy to recognize. 
I have tweaked some of the extensions to make them work a bit better, so 
I certainly want backup copies of those.  Also, some extensions have 
disappeared from the Internet altogether, so I need to keep the backups 
for those.




If you remember what site it had been on, then
"Internet Archive: Wayback Machine" [http://archive.org/web/web.php]
may be a useful tool.
HTH


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Progress Report - was [Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks?]

2018-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/18/2018 04:50 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 18/08/2018 1:44 PM:

[snip]
Have made progress :]
BUT creating useful output in JSON format acceptable to SeaMonkey 
unlikely :[


Boo! Hiss!!


Sorry about that 
Have you looked at a JSON file even after pretty printing with "jq"?



HOWEVER I expect I'll be able to create a HTML file which can serve 
nicely as bookmarks. That was one of my initial alternative goals.


SeaMonkey used to, natively, I think, do this!!

Yes, Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks then, in the Bookmark Manager, 
Tools->Export HTML


Yes, *BUT*!
The way they chose to display the HTML hides much of the hierarchical 
stucture of nested bookmarks. Whether or not I delete a specific URL 
reference depends on where it is in the structure. I have some 
intentional duplications.



My path to that will depend on Linux tools. I suspect similar tools 
exist in Windows. I will be creating a description of my combination 
of scripts and manual edits.


I suspect that this could be done in jq with an expert's skill set.

My goals include:
  1. Create a HTML file with hierarchy *CLEARLY* visible.
  2. Create a text file of duplicated URLs and how many times
 each appears.
  3. Create a tool to ease removal of duplicates from *MY* HTML.
  4. I might possibly perhaps investigate creating an HTML file
 SeaMonkey could import. Enough qualifiers there??

My _preliminary_ TCL [not quite pre-alpha] is:

# Input is SeaMonkey bookmark file pretty printed with "jq '.' ..."
set infile  "pretty_json.txt"
# the format of "useful.txt" not yet defined
set outfile "useful.txt"
set fd_in  [open $infile  r]
set fd_out [open $outfile w]

set children   "\"child"
set uri"\"uri\":"
set title  "\"title"
set rbracket   \]
set mylist [list $children  $uri  $title $rbracket]

while { ! [eof $fd_in] } {
  gets $fd_in b_line 
  set a_line [string trimleft $b_line]
  set c_line [string range $a_line 0 5]  


  set x  [lsearch $mylist $c_line]
  switch $x {
  1 {procedure1}
  2 {procedure2}
  3 {procedure3}
  4 {procedure4}
  }
}

close $fd_in
close $fd_out


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Re: Bad news for SM 2.49 (based on FF 52)

2018-08-25 Thread EE

Daniel wrote:

EE wrote on 25/08/2018 5:42 AM:

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 22/08/2018 6:21 PM:
add-on are on thunderbird.net. This is a complete copy. What mozilla 
does here no longer affects us. 2.53 alreday connects to it 
directly. 2.49 will in the next version. Currently going a detour 
thru addons.mozilla.org.


Palemoon will have its own add-ons site. Not sure about Waterfox.

FRG

Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

I think this spells bad news for non-WebEx FF forks:

Mozilla to Remove Legacy Firefox Add-Ons From AMO in Early October
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-to-remove-legacy-firefox-add-ons-from-add-on-portal-in-early-october/ 



Regards.

And, (not to suggest I'm checking up on you guys, Frank_Rainer!! ;-) 
), but after click on the SeaMonkey on the top right of the M & N 
screen, I was taken to the SeaMonkey Projects page, clicked on "Add 
Ons" on the left of that page and was taken to 
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/.


Good-oo!!

But prompts the question, as TB is just a M & N program, will SM 
Browser Add Ons also be hosted there??



SeaMonkey themes are also there, and SM extensions are there as well.

I did see that some extensions with versions that used to be for both 
Firefox and SeaMonkey but are now only for Firefox were not copied 
over.   I would really like to see those copied over, at least the 
older versions that worked with SeaMonkey.  Two examples are Web 
Developer and YouTube High Definition.


I seem to recall that, some time ago, SM Browser and FF diverged in some 
manner or other. Maybe the current FF extensions will not work in SM 
Browser, even before FF went to WebExtension or whatever they call it now!!


Just sayin'!!


No, I am still using the older versions of Web Developer and YouTube 
High Definition on SeaMonkey.  They became web extensions only fairly 
recently.


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Re: Bad news for SM 2.49 (based on FF 52)

2018-08-25 Thread EE

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/24/2018 02:45 PM, EE wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 8/22/2018 8:56 AM, EE wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

I think this spells bad news for non-WebEx FF forks:

Mozilla to Remove Legacy Firefox Add-Ons From AMO in Early October
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-to-remove-legacy-firefox-add-ons-from-add-on-portal-in-early-october/ 



Regards.

That means download installers for whatever Firefox extensions you 
think you will need now and save them as backup copies.  I have not 
updated any themes or extensions for SeaMonkey since version 2.49 
first came out, and I have backup copies for all the installers I need.


Doesn't SM keep the downloaded extension installers locally?


In its profile it does, but the names are not always easy to 
recognize. I have tweaked some of the extensions to make them work a 
bit better, so I certainly want backup copies of those.  Also, some 
extensions have disappeared from the Internet altogether, so I need to 
keep the backups for those.




If you remember what site it had been on, then
"Internet Archive: Wayback Machine" [http://archive.org/web/web.php]
may be a useful tool.
HTH


That does not work.  No matter how far you go back, it says the file has 
been removed.


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