Re: Remote content on one single email.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

ped...@gmail.com wrote on 20/11/2018 11:11 AM:

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 6:09:41 PM UTC-6, ped...@gmail.com
wrote:

I pooched it, and accidentally set block all message on an email
from one sender.

Now there are never any images from that sender and the option to
show remote images is no longer shown.  I cannot find where to
change or remove my choice.

All suggestions were for thunderbird and those don't exist in the
seamonkey email app.

Is there a way, a setting, or file I can erase, that will again
allow me to chose to view remote content from one sender again?

PaulE


Sorry Version 2.49.4

Paul, as the e-mail portion of SeaMonkey is based on Thunderbird, I 
would expect, if it's possible in TB, it would be possible in SM.


My *guess* is that it would be somewhere in the Preferences 
(Edit->Preferences) or in the Data Manager (Tools->Data Manager).


If not, hopefully someone else will drop by with an answer!!


The global pref is at Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Message 
Display:

[x] Block images and other content from remote sources
This is your default preference, the way SM will handle sites for which 
you don't set a custom pref.



For a particular sender, there are two ways of changing the settings.

The easier way, when available, is to open a message from that sender 
and hope to see this at the top of the message:

"To protect your privacy, SeaMonkey has blocked
remote content in this message. [Options]"
If you're lucky and see that message, click the "Options" button at far 
right and choose the desired handling. You're done.


If you've inadvertently disabled those notifications, I'm sorry but I 
don't know how to enable them.



The more complicated way is with the Data Manager, and it applies to 
whole domains, not specific email addresses.


First, examine the sender's email address and copy only the domain (the 
part after the "@" sign). Then do Tools | Data Manager and pull down 
"Permissions only" from the list under "All data types" at the top left. 
Beneath that, where it says "Search domains," paste the sender's email 
domain (or type it if you prefer). If you have set a specific permission 
for that domain regarding remote content, that setting will appear in 
the list at right as "Load images." Click the desired value at far 
right, or to reset the domain to your default pref, whatever that may 
be, check "Use default" at left. To release a default setting (create a 
custom pref for that domain), uncheck "Use default" and then click the 
desired value at right. When done, simply close the Data Manager (you 
don't need to OK out).


If the domain is already set to your default pref for a particular 
permission, that permission will not be shown.


If the domain is set to your default prefs for /all/ permissions (if you 
have not set any custom prefs for that domain), the domain will not be 
shown at all.


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Re: Remote content on one single email.

[Daniel]

ped...@gmail.com wrote on 20/11/2018 11:11 AM:

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 6:09:41 PM UTC-6, ped...@gmail.com
wrote:

I pooched it, and accidentally set block all message on an email
from one sender.

Now there are never any images from that sender and the option to
show remote images is no longer shown.  I cannot find where to
change or remove my choice.

All suggestions were for thunderbird and those don't exist in the
seamonkey email app.

Is there a way, a setting, or file I can erase, that will again
allow me to chose to view remote content from one sender again?

PaulE


Sorry Version 2.49.4

Paul, as the e-mail portion of SeaMonkey is based on Thunderbird, I 
would expect, if it's possible in TB, it would be possible in SM.


My *guess* is that it would be somewhere in the Preferences 
(Edit->Preferences) or in the Data Manager (Tools->Data Manager).


If not, hopefully someone else will drop by with an answer!!

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418

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Re: Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - Operator problem?

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 20/11/2018 1:00 AM:

On 11/19/2018 02:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 19/11/2018 5:22 AM:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 (under Debian 9.0). I downloaded it from 
the SeaMonkey site.


After an long absence I decided to again follow a USENET group 
(comp.lang.forth).


My provider indicates there are ~150k posts available. I chose to 
download 5000, marking others "As Read". After a reasonable delay 
they appeared and a thread of interest (~20 posts) was the third one 
displayed.


I successfully applied the same two custom tags to each, chose 
"Display message threads, and read that thread.


*1st symptom*
While scrolling back to see if there were other posts of immediate 
interest, I found multiple post marked as "read" - an error.


*2nd symptom*
I wanted _all_ post marked as "not read".
As SeaMonkey has always required (I started with Netscape 4.?), I 
selected ALL posts and marked them as "read". I'd forgotten that 
SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read" 
[fails with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart 
of SM. I found that it was happy marking ~1k posts "not read" at a time.

_QUESTION_ Is there a work around for this?

*3rd symptom*
I then searched Subject lines for a keyword. I discovered the first 
post downloaded was the last of an interesting thread. I decided I 
wanted all 150k headers. I unsubscribed the group. I then subscribed 
subscribed again choosing to download *ALL* 150k headers. It ground 
to a halt and I could not exit SeaMonkey. I chose to a hardware reset 
and a cold boot.
_QUESTION_ How can I download all the headers. I know doing 5k at a 
time works. I suspect 10-20k at a time would work. This is obviously 
far outside the scope of normal use. BUT, does it rate a low priority 
bug report?


TIA


Richard, above you typed that there were ~150k messages ... 'I chose 
to download 5000, marking others "As Read"'.


1st Solution, maybe
Did you also set up your VIEW preferences?? Such as 
View->Threads->Threads with Unread?


Doing so should get rid of all those threads you were not interested 
in, and only leave those threads which you were interested in *AND* 
which have unread messages!


2nd Solution.
When I've had to re-subscribe to a news group and downloaded heaps of 
messages, which I've then had to "Mark as Read", I sometimes got that 
extra screen telling me there is a problem. I click "Continue" or some 
such and the process continued. Sometimes, in a popular news group, I 
would have to do this several times, but, eventually they would all 
get "Mark as Read".


3rd Solution
My suggestion would be just let it go, marking all those messages can 
take some time, and you could be asked several times  but, for me, 
the process does get to an end!!




In my case MURPHY zapped himself.
I just found out a desired program is 64 bit only and due to inertia I'm 
still using a 32 bit Linux. I'll install the 64 bit Linux and download 
the USENET group to that system. Thank you.


No probs!!

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: SEA MONKEY PROBLEMS URGENT

[Alexander Yudenitsch]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 17 Nov 18 13:30:

SeaMonkey 2.57 will arrive with web extension support (not yet 
there) and should in theory then support newer versions.


So, SM 2.57 should support web extensions AND XUL (legacy) extensions?

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Re: Remote content on one single email.

[pedgar]

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 6:09:41 PM UTC-6, ped...@gmail.com wrote:
> I pooched it, and accidentally set block all message on an email from one 
> sender.
> 
> Now there are never any images from that sender and the option to show remote 
> images is no longer shown.  I cannot find where to change or remove my choice.
> 
> All suggestions were for thunderbird and those don't exist in the seamonkey 
> email app.
> 
> Is there a way, a setting, or file I can erase, that will again allow me to 
> chose to view remote content from one sender again?
> 
> PaulE

Sorry Version 2.49.4
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Remote content on one single email.

[pedgar]

I pooched it, and accidentally set block all message on an email from one 
sender.

Now there are never any images from that sender and the option to show remote 
images is no longer shown.  I cannot find where to change or remove my choice.

All suggestions were for thunderbird and those don't exist in the seamonkey 
email app.

Is there a way, a setting, or file I can erase, that will again allow me to 
chose to view remote content from one sender again?

PaulE
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Re: User Agent Strings for PrefBar Spoofing

[NFN Smith]

Ant wrote:

On 11/19/2018 9:12 AM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

The requested file is attached as UA_spoof.btn.


Except for Edge and IE, those user-agents are a bit out of date.


Is there a list of updated UAs somewhere since web browsers are always 
changing with updates?


I've seen more than one site out there.  I have this one bookmarked: 
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_ids.htm


Smith

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Re: User Agent Strings for PrefBar Spoofing

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 11/19/2018 9:12 AM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

The requested file is attached as UA_spoof.btn.


Except for Edge and IE, those user-agents are a bit out of date.


Is there a list of updated UAs somewhere since web browsers are always 
changing with updates?

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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

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On 11/19/2018 9:26 AM, EE wrote:
...

Mine is 98K.  I block DOM storage and indexed DB.


Where is that option to block those?


That is in about:config.  dom.indexedDB.enabled -> false
dom.storage.enabled -> false


Thanks. Did you have any side effects by disabling DOM storage? Slower 
speeds due to lack of DOM caches?

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Re: How big is your webappsstore.sqlite file?

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Ant wrote:

On 11/18/2018 11:10 AM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, Ant wrote:
Mine was about 33.2 MB! I noticed https://flickmetrix.com wasn't 
showing

its results because of it (corrupted?) until I (delet/remov)ed it. It
took me a while to figure out why this web site wasn't working until I
tried a private window in my existing profile and a new profile.



In my primary profile, it is 1.09 MB.  I delete webappsstore.sqlite from
all profiles each week before doing a total system backup.  If the file
does not exist, a new version will download when I next launch 
SeaMonkey.


I also delete the contents of the storage and safebrowsing folders and
all caches before doing my backup.  These too are regenerated when I
next launch SeaMonkey.


Mine is 98K.  I block DOM storage and indexed DB.


Where is that option to block those?


That is in about:config.  dom.indexedDB.enabled -> false
dom.storage.enabled -> false
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Re: Problem with google

[EE]

oldkinger wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/17/2018 8:47 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
In the Google screen the textbox for resaerch - suddently works 
anormaly.


The text I type, il located in the upper half of the textbox, and my 
typing is limited in length ...


this is a sample chen I typed: CECI EST UN TEST EN ESSAI

All the text is present but not visible entirely.

You may see this by looking at
https://www.cjoint.com/c/HKrqGKzHrsO 



User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Windows 10


Perhaps caused by ths installation of this update

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4023057/update-to-windows-10-versions-1507-1511-1607-1703-1709-and-1803-for-up 


Done yesterday.


This is an old known issue with old SeaMonkey (SM) web browser. Google 
needs to fix it on their end, but it doesn't look like they will. As a 
workaround, you can disable SM's user agent string option not to 
advertise Firefox compability as shown in my uploaded 
https://image.ibb.co/emUTn0/Disable-UAstring-Advertise-Firefox-Compatbility.gif 
screen capture/shot.


Please do let Google about this issue through/via its 
https://www.google.com/tools/feedback/mobile_feedback_no_login?hl=en&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%3Fgws_rd%3Dssl&redirect=true&enableAnonymousFeedback=true&pi=196&bt=websearch 
form so they know there are many old SeaMonkey users. Maybe they can 
be pressured by us old SM users to make them fix it.



Firefox compatibility fix worked perfectly. Thanks so much


Does it not seem a bit strange that I have to include the Firefox 
information on the user-agent to use Google Maps, but apparently you 
have to get rid of it to use Google search?


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Re: User Agent Strings for PrefBar Spoofing

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

The requested file is attached as UA_spoof.btn.


Except for Edge and IE, those user-agents are a bit out of date.

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User Agent Strings for PrefBar Spoofing

[David E. Ross]

The requested file is attached as UA_spoof.btn.

-- 
David E. Ross


Once again, there has been a mass shooting.  This time,
it was in Thousand Oaks, California.  And once again, just
as he did after the recent mass shooting in Pittsburgh,
President Trump sent his thoughts and prayers to the
families of the victims.  Thoughts and prayers will not
stop the carnage.  Action is needed on gun control, and
more guns -- as Trump proposed for Pittsburgh and Parkland
in Florida --  is not the answer.
{
  "prefbar:info": {
"formatversion": 3
  },
  "prefbar:menu:enabled": {
"items": [
  "prefbar:button:useragent"
]
  },
  "prefbar:button:useragent": {
"items": [
  [
"Real UA",
"!RESET!"
  ],
  [
"Firefox",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0"
  ],
  [
"Edge",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
Chrome/64.0.3282.140 Safari/537.36 Edge/17.17134"
  ],
  [
"IE 11 Windows 7",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko "
  ],
  [
"Opera",
"Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.17"
  ],
  [
"Spoof, not Firefox",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4, NOT Firefox/60.0"
  ],
  [
"Chrome",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, 
like Gecko) Chrome/62.0.3202.94 Safari/537.36"
  ],
  [
"Safari",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_11_6) AppleWebKit/603.2.5 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Version/10.1.1 Safari/603.2.5"
  ]
],
"label": "User Agent",
"type": "extlist",
"dontupdatelistitems": true,
"setfunction": "prefbarSetUseragent(value);",
"getfunction": "value = prefbarGetUseragent(items);"
  }
}
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Re: Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - Operator problem?

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/19/2018 02:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 19/11/2018 5:22 AM:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 (under Debian 9.0). I downloaded it from 
the SeaMonkey site.


After an long absence I decided to again follow a USENET group 
(comp.lang.forth).


My provider indicates there are ~150k posts available. I chose to 
download 5000, marking others "As Read". After a reasonable delay they 
appeared and a thread of interest (~20 posts) was the third one 
displayed.


I successfully applied the same two custom tags to each, chose 
"Display message threads, and read that thread.


*1st symptom*
While scrolling back to see if there were other posts of immediate 
interest, I found multiple post marked as "read" - an error.


*2nd symptom*
I wanted _all_ post marked as "not read".
As SeaMonkey has always required (I started with Netscape 4.?), I 
selected ALL posts and marked them as "read". I'd forgotten that 
SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read" 
[fails with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart 
of SM. I found that it was happy marking ~1k posts "not read" at a time.

_QUESTION_ Is there a work around for this?

*3rd symptom*
I then searched Subject lines for a keyword. I discovered the first 
post downloaded was the last of an interesting thread. I decided I 
wanted all 150k headers. I unsubscribed the group. I then subscribed 
subscribed again choosing to download *ALL* 150k headers. It ground to 
a halt and I could not exit SeaMonkey. I chose to a hardware reset and 
a cold boot.
_QUESTION_ How can I download all the headers. I know doing 5k at a 
time works. I suspect 10-20k at a time would work. This is obviously 
far outside the scope of normal use. BUT, does it rate a low priority 
bug report?


TIA


Richard, above you typed that there were ~150k messages ... 'I chose to 
download 5000, marking others "As Read"'.


1st Solution, maybe
Did you also set up your VIEW preferences?? Such as 
View->Threads->Threads with Unread?


Doing so should get rid of all those threads you were not interested in, 
and only leave those threads which you were interested in *AND* which 
have unread messages!


2nd Solution.
When I've had to re-subscribe to a news group and downloaded heaps of 
messages, which I've then had to "Mark as Read", I sometimes got that 
extra screen telling me there is a problem. I click "Continue" or some 
such and the process continued. Sometimes, in a popular news group, I 
would have to do this several times, but, eventually they would all get 
"Mark as Read".


3rd Solution
My suggestion would be just let it go, marking all those messages can 
take some time, and you could be asked several times  but, for me, 
the process does get to an end!!




In my case MURPHY zapped himself.
I just found out a desired program is 64 bit only and due to inertia I'm 
still using a 32 bit Linux. I'll install the 64 bit Linux and download 
the USENET group to that system. Thank you.



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Re: Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - Operator problem?

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 19/11/2018 5:22 AM:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 (under Debian 9.0). I downloaded it from the 
SeaMonkey site.


After an long absence I decided to again follow a USENET group 
(comp.lang.forth).


My provider indicates there are ~150k posts available. I chose to 
download 5000, marking others "As Read". After a reasonable delay they 
appeared and a thread of interest (~20 posts) was the third one displayed.


I successfully applied the same two custom tags to each, chose "Display 
message threads, and read that thread.


*1st symptom*
While scrolling back to see if there were other posts of immediate 
interest, I found multiple post marked as "read" - an error.


*2nd symptom*
I wanted _all_ post marked as "not read".
As SeaMonkey has always required (I started with Netscape 4.?), I 
selected ALL posts and marked them as "read". I'd forgotten that 
SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read" [fails 
with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart of SM. I 
found that it was happy marking ~1k posts "not read" at a time.

_QUESTION_ Is there a work around for this?

*3rd symptom*
I then searched Subject lines for a keyword. I discovered the first post 
downloaded was the last of an interesting thread. I decided I wanted all 
150k headers. I unsubscribed the group. I then subscribed subscribed 
again choosing to download *ALL* 150k headers. It ground to a halt and I 
could not exit SeaMonkey. I chose to a hardware reset and a cold boot.
_QUESTION_ How can I download all the headers. I know doing 5k at a time 
works. I suspect 10-20k at a time would work. This is obviously far 
outside the scope of normal use. BUT, does it rate a low priority bug 
report?


TIA


Richard, above you typed that there were ~150k messages ... 'I chose to 
download 5000, marking others "As Read"'.


1st Solution, maybe
Did you also set up your VIEW preferences?? Such as 
View->Threads->Threads with Unread?


Doing so should get rid of all those threads you were not interested in, 
and only leave those threads which you were interested in *AND* which 
have unread messages!


2nd Solution.
When I've had to re-subscribe to a news group and downloaded heaps of 
messages, which I've then had to "Mark as Read", I sometimes got that 
extra screen telling me there is a problem. I click "Continue" or some 
such and the process continued. Sometimes, in a popular news group, I 
would have to do this several times, but, eventually they would all get 
"Mark as Read".


3rd Solution
My suggestion would be just let it go, marking all those messages can 
take some time, and you could be asked several times  but, for me, 
the process does get to an end!!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: seamonkey not properly installed

[Daniel]

cyberzen wrote on 18/11/2018 9:52 PM:

EE a écrit :





I installed SeaMonkey to a Standard account (on MacOS), which does
not have admin rights, and I use it from that account.  That is no
 problem. To install something into an account and use it from the
same account does not require an admin password.


that's an interesting point in fact I was using seamonkey without
admin rights with no problem (except the "send to recipient" not
working as I expected) I use to install all software from that
account and always have to grant admin rights to continue  
seamonkey seems to be an exception up to now and I did not notice it

 during the first install now I have done a second installation with
admin rights I got a second shortcut on the screen and duplicates
entries in the start menu


"send to recipient"?? ... Doesn't that mean you are sending it back to 
yourself??


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