Re: YouTube says browser won't acknowledge HTML5 video format...

[WaltS48]

On 11/23/18 8:25 PM, brsrkr76 wrote:

some of my favorite old videos won't play with this SM update. Anyone know if 
there is a fix?



Use Firefox.
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YouTube says browser won't acknowledge HTML5 video format...

[brsrkr76]

some of my favorite old videos won't play with this SM update. Anyone know if 
there is a fix?
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Re: How does SM play MP4 video on Windows?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/23/2018 12:22 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested to know how SM plays MP4 video. For example does it have 
> it's own hand coded player (unlikely), or does it use a ready built 
> player API?
> 
> My guess is that it's using Media Foundation (like Windows Media 
> Player), but how?
> 

Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.4

I have installed VideoLAN (VLC), RealPlayer, and Winamp.  When I select
a link to a audio or video file or stream, SeaMonkey selects one of
those according to the MIME type.  For MP4, that is VLC.

My daughter is a Mac user.  She really likes iTunes and claims that it
can handle any of the streams or files that my three applications
handle.  There is an iTunes version for Windows.

To me, the benefit of using an application in place of a browser
extension or an inherent capability of my browser is that, once the
application is playing a stream or file, my browser is no longer
involved.  This means I can switch back and forth between the three
SeaMonkey profiles that I frequently use without interrupting the music.

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Read only mode

[wills]

No change to Mac hardware or software (OS 10.11.6) since I last used Seamonkey 
but now when I open a file it opens in read-only mode. How do I enable editing?
Ken
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How does SM play MP4 video on Windows?

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Hi,

I'm interested to know how SM plays MP4 video. For example does it have 
it's own hand coded player (unlikely), or does it use a ready built 
player API?


My guess is that it's using Media Foundation (like Windows Media 
Player), but how?


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Re: User Agent Strings for PrefBar Spoofing

[EE]

Ant wrote:

On 11/22/2018 9:09 AM, EE wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/20/2018 8:40 AM, EE wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 11/19/2018 9:12 AM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

The requested file is attached as UA_spoof.btn.


Except for Edge and IE, those user-agents are a bit out of date.


Is there a list of updated UAs somewhere since web browsers are 
always changing with updates?


https://techblog.willshouse.com/2012/01/03/most-common-user-agents/

This one is pretty good.  It is more up to date than any other list 
I have found.


16-bit OSes? I used to use http://www.useragentstring.com, but it 
seems to be gone. :(


That is a mistake.  They mean 64-bit, not 16-bit.


Oh hey, http://www.useragentstring.com is back online. It even has the 
newer web browser. :)


It does not load for me.  I tried with 3 different browsers.

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Re: Similar USENET problem? - was {Re: Data Manager and Cookies}

[Danny Kile]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 11/23/2018 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 11/23/2018 01:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


Would this problem be related to a similar USENET symptom described 
in my 11/18/2018 post titled "Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe 
- Operator problem? "?

... SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read"
[fails with a "script busy notification" requiring a 
shutdown/restart of SM.


TIA





I fail to see how a USENET problem relates to this problem on a single 
web site.


I was focusing on  both giving similar "script busy" error message 
hinting to me that there might be a bug in code common to nominally 
unrelated tasks.

YMMV ;}

Though having been introduced to computers via a predecessor of 
Dartmouth BASIC, I'm no software expert but have >50 years of general 
trouble shooting experience and general customer service.


Thank you for your help in this matter seem like, Frank-Rainer Grahl 
suggestion on deleting the webappsstore.* files have resolved the issue.


Thank again for your help.
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Re: Data Manager and Cookies

[Danny Kile]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy 
when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from 
your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain 
data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If 
you are unsure if the information is needed please back up the files 
before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far 
no coding error has been found. This problem is been reported frequently 
when trying to manage passwords. But the problem will generally happen 
just after you open the Data Manager, because this component is also 
used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions and other settings.


Danny Kile wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


I look at the release note I fail to see anything mentioning, Warning 
Unresponsive Script. However, if I had would not know what to do about 
it. Is this something that will be fixed in the next release, or 
should I roll back to a previous version?


Thank you for you help in this matter. Deleting the webappsstore.* files 
and letting SM recreate them has solved my problems with Data Manager. 
With that resolved I was able to go in and delete cookies and cache and 
set permissions for the wUnderground.com site. This seems to have 
cleared my issue with wUnderground.com.


Thank you for your help in this matter.
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Re: Data Manager and Cookies

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/23/2018 10:04 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy 
when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from 
your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain 
data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If 
you are unsure if the information is needed please back up the files 
before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far 
no coding error has been found. This problem is been reported frequently 
when trying to manage passwords. But the problem will generally happen 
just after you open the Data Manager, because this component is also 
used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions and other settings.


I hear the voice of real world experience :]
That's why I mentioned that there was a similar _SYMPTOM_ in a nominally 
unrelated sub-system. I've a gut feel there is a problem in how Mozilla 
uses sqlite. [ *CAVEAT LECTOR* The last time I used a database was with 
dBaseII circa late 70's ;]






Danny Kile wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


I look at the release note I fail to see anything mentioning, Warning 
Unresponsive Script. However, if I had would not know what to do about 
it. Is this something that will be fixed in the next release, or 
should I roll back to a previous version?


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Re: Similar USENET problem? - was {Re: Data Manager and Cookies}

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/23/2018 10:05 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 11/23/2018 01:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


Would this problem be related to a similar USENET symptom described in 
my 11/18/2018 post titled "Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - 
Operator problem? "?

... SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read"
[fails with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart 
of SM.


TIA





I fail to see how a USENET problem relates to this problem on a single 
web site.


I was focusing on  both giving similar "script busy" error message 
hinting to me that there might be a bug in code common to nominally 
unrelated tasks.

YMMV ;}

Though having been introduced to computers via a predecessor of 
Dartmouth BASIC, I'm no software expert but have >50 years of general 
trouble shooting experience and general customer service.


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Re: Similar USENET problem? - was {Re: Data Manager and Cookies}

[Danny Kile]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 11/23/2018 01:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


Would this problem be related to a similar USENET symptom described in 
my 11/18/2018 post titled "Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - 
Operator problem? "?

... SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read"
[fails with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart 
of SM.


TIA





I fail to see how a USENET problem relates to this problem on a single 
web site.

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Re: Data Manager and Cookies

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when 
opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your 
profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain data stored 
by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if 
the information is needed please back up the files before deleting them. The 
problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. 
This problem is been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But 
the problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, 
because this component is also used for managing cookies, site preferences 
permissions and other settings.


Danny Kile wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


I look at the release note I fail to see anything mentioning, Warning 
Unresponsive Script. However, if I had would not know what to do about it. Is 
this something that will be fixed in the next release, or should I roll back 
to a previous version?

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Re: Data Manager and Cookies

[Danny Kile]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


I look at the release note I fail to see anything mentioning, Warning 
Unresponsive Script. However, if I had would not know what to do about 
it. Is this something that will be fixed in the next release, or should 
I roll back to a previous version?

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Re: Self consistency of Linux install instructions?

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/23/2018 08:30 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Reference:
[https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux]

I date back to using Netscape 4.? on Windows.
I've used SeaMonkey on 32 bit Debian since Squeeze.
[The less said about how I installed it the better ;]

Having acquired some software only available in 64 bit I'm doing a fresh
install of Debian Stable.

I wish to install the Linux/x86_64 version of SeaMonkey in such a manner
that the installation will be _indistinguishable_ from what it would be
*IF A STANDARD .DEB PACKAGE WAS AVAILABLE* .

As I read

Note:There is no installer available, but just extracting the tar.bz2
to the default directory (usually /usr/local/seamonkey) achieves the
same result as an installer would.

it appears to conflict with the rest of the text.

With the MATE desktop using Caja file manager I believe I should:
   1. copy seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 to
  /usr/local/
   2. click on it and choose "Extract Here"

Am I correct?

TIA



Can't you use Ubuntuzilla with Debian?


For multiple reasons I do not want anything other than official Debian 
references in my sources.list file.



 The .deb files are here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/



That points to

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.49.4-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb/download

should do nicely [I've installed local .deb files before].
Thank you.


This will be kept current as the maintainer is notified.

Dave




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Re: Self consistency of Linux install instructions?

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/23/2018 07:45 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Richard Owlett composed on 2018-11-23 07:33 (UTC-0600):


Reference:
[https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux]



I date back to using Netscape 4.? on Windows.
I've used SeaMonkey on 32 bit Debian since Squeeze.
[The less said about how I installed it the better ;]



Having acquired some software only available in 64 bit I'm doing a fresh
install of Debian Stable.



I wish to install the Linux/x86_64 version of SeaMonkey in such a manner
that the installation will be _indistinguishable_ from what it would be
*IF A STANDARD .DEB PACKAGE WAS AVAILABLE* .


https://wiki.debian.org/Seamonkey doesn't do it for you?



Nope ;<
What is at
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.4/contrib/
is apparently *YEARS NEWER* than what's at
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt

Also I have a *VERY STRONG* desire to have *ONLY* official Debian sites 
in my sources.list !


I had specifically asked:


With the MATE desktop using Caja file manager I believe I should:
  1. copy seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 to
 /usr/local/
  2. click on it and choose "Extract Here"

Am I correct?


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Re: Self consistency of Linux install instructions?

[David H. Durgee]

Richard Owlett wrote:
> Reference:
> [https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux]
> 
> I date back to using Netscape 4.? on Windows.
> I've used SeaMonkey on 32 bit Debian since Squeeze.
> [The less said about how I installed it the better ;]
> 
> Having acquired some software only available in 64 bit I'm doing a fresh
> install of Debian Stable.
> 
> I wish to install the Linux/x86_64 version of SeaMonkey in such a manner
> that the installation will be _indistinguishable_ from what it would be
> *IF A STANDARD .DEB PACKAGE WAS AVAILABLE* .
> 
> As I read
>> Note:There is no installer available, but just extracting the tar.bz2
>> to the default directory (usually /usr/local/seamonkey) achieves the
>> same result as an installer would. 
> it appears to conflict with the rest of the text.
> 
> With the MATE desktop using Caja file manager I believe I should:
>   1. copy seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 to
>  /usr/local/
>   2. click on it and choose "Extract Here"
> 
> Am I correct?
> 
> TIA
> 

Can't you use Ubuntuzilla with Debian?  The .deb files are here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/

This will be kept current as the maintainer is notified.

Dave
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Re: Self consistency of Linux install instructions?

[Felix Miata]

Richard Owlett composed on 2018-11-23 07:33 (UTC-0600):

> Reference: 
> [https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux]

> I date back to using Netscape 4.? on Windows.
> I've used SeaMonkey on 32 bit Debian since Squeeze.
> [The less said about how I installed it the better ;]

> Having acquired some software only available in 64 bit I'm doing a fresh 
> install of Debian Stable.

> I wish to install the Linux/x86_64 version of SeaMonkey in such a manner 
> that the installation will be _indistinguishable_ from what it would be
> *IF A STANDARD .DEB PACKAGE WAS AVAILABLE* .

https://wiki.debian.org/Seamonkey doesn't do it for you?
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Self consistency of Linux install instructions?

[Richard Owlett]

Reference: 
[https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall#install_linux]


I date back to using Netscape 4.? on Windows.
I've used SeaMonkey on 32 bit Debian since Squeeze.
[The less said about how I installed it the better ;]

Having acquired some software only available in 64 bit I'm doing a fresh 
install of Debian Stable.


I wish to install the Linux/x86_64 version of SeaMonkey in such a manner 
that the installation will be _indistinguishable_ from what it would be

*IF A STANDARD .DEB PACKAGE WAS AVAILABLE* .

As I read

Note:There is no installer available, but just extracting the tar.bz2
to the default directory (usually /usr/local/seamonkey) achieves the
same result as an installer would. 

it appears to conflict with the rest of the text.

With the MATE desktop using Caja file manager I believe I should:
  1. copy seamonkey-2.49.4.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 to
 /usr/local/
  2. click on it and choose "Extract Here"

Am I correct?

TIA

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Similar USENET problem? - was {Re: Data Manager and Cookies}

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/23/2018 01:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes.

Danny Kile wrote:

However, Data Manager returns the following error:

"Warning Unresponsive Script


Would this problem be related to a similar USENET symptom described in 
my 11/18/2018 post titled "Odd symptoms with new USENET subscribe - 
Operator problem? "?

... SeaMonkey chokes when asked to mark too many posts as "not read"
[fails with a "script busy notification" requiring a shutdown/restart of SM.


TIA



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Re: Weird IMAP folder size (SM 2.49.4 for Mac)

[Gabriel]

Gabriel wrote on 22/11/2018 13:45:

Hi all,

I'm using SM 2.49.4 (build 20180711181801) on Mac Mojave and I have a weird bug 
with an IMAP folder.
In the Finder that folder was about 600 MB but I know it can't be so big, while 
in SeaMonkey the size is 192 MB (which should be correct).
So I did a "repair folder" and the size in the Finder grew up to 805 MB! WTH? 
It's still 192 in SeaMonkey.




[...]

After synchronizing the whole IMAP account (Going Offline -> download) the big 
folder now is 200 MB instead of 805! Which seems correct, but I'm still 
wondering what caused that size issue.


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