Re: Why did the Account open?

2018-12-10 Thread WaltS48

On 12/10/18 4:04 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on 
my current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could 
get the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M 
screen opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM 
tried to get my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me 
extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M 
screen, should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to 
collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this 
Mozilla server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail 
is downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


I just checked that (starting another machine at a time when mails were 
outstanding) and - no, the green arrow on the left of the mail symbol 
appeared after a few seconds.




Did you disable getting mail on startup for each mail account before 
testing?


I think that would require a restart and hoping you have new mail 
waiting to be downloaded for an account.


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Re: Why did the Account open?

2018-12-10 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on 
my current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could 
get the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M 
screen opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried 
to get my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M 
screen, should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to 
collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this 
Mozilla server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


I just checked that (starting another machine at a time when mails were 
outstanding) and - no, the green arrow on the left of the mail symbol 
appeared after a few seconds.


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Re: Where are data manager datas stored in SeaMonkey v2.49.4?

2018-12-10 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 12/10/2018 12:54 AM, Nuno Silva wrote:


On 11/17/2018 7:32 PM, Ant wrote:

On 11/17/2018 11:16 AM, Ant wrote:

I re(nam/mov)ed my profile's places.sqlite, cookies.sqlite, and
permission.sqlite but still see a list of domains in my data
manager. Where are those stores?


I told SM to clear ALL private datas. It took almost a minute to
complete due to my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC but I
still see them. I'm still confused where SM's Data Manager is
getting my past histories from.


No one knows? :(


What kind of information is being kept?  The data manager tries to show
everything in one place (including per-domain/host zoom levels and
download directories, for example), can you check several domains and
see which tabs are not greyed/inactive?


It seems to memorize everything that I visited even after clearing all 
of my histories.

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Re: Why did the Account open?

2018-12-10 Thread Ed Mullen

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on my 
current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could get 
the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M screen 
opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried to get 
my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M screen, 
should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to collect 
any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this Mozilla 
server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try to 
get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.

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Re: Where are data manager datas stored in SeaMonkey v2.49.4?

2018-12-10 Thread Nuno Silva
(I'm sorry if I'm asking about something you already wrote before, I
tried getting the parent articles but the post has no References:?)

On 2018-12-10, Ant wrote:

> On 11/17/2018 7:32 PM, Ant wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 11:16 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> I re(nam/mov)ed my profile's places.sqlite, cookies.sqlite, and
>>> permission.sqlite but still see a list of domains in my data
>>> manager. Where are those stores?
>>
>> I told SM to clear ALL private datas. It took almost a minute to
>> complete due to my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC but I
>> still see them. I'm still confused where SM's Data Manager is
>> getting my past histories from.
>
> No one knows? :(

What kind of information is being kept?  The data manager tries to show
everything in one place (including per-domain/host zoom levels and
download directories, for example), can you check several domains and
see which tabs are not greyed/inactive?

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Re: Why did the Account open?

2018-12-10 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Daniel wrote:

As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on my 
current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so didn't 
want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra for getting 
my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the Internet, I 
started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name and then went 
into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the Browser when I clicked 
on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM and 
the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could get 
the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M screen 
opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried to get my 
mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then close 
SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M screen, should 
to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this Mozilla 
server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


I also have Firefox installed for when I want to do stuff like that.  I 
suppose you could edit your /etc/hosts so that it looks for your mail on 
your localhost but I'd see any other solution as being more trouble that 
it's worth.



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