Re: Preference Expired

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow.
Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A couple 
of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in terms of 
access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. until today.)


Larry


It may be something other than cookies.  My cookies are session cookies 
only and I can view Fox News ok.  At the end of each session they are 
all deleted.  You could try changing your UA string to Firefox 72.0.1 
instead of FF 52.0 and see if it helps.

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Re: Did SM v2.53.1 remove its column sort arrows? Modern theme was the cause.

[Ant]

On 3/2/2020 7:23 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
OK. I figured out what was causing it. "SeaMonkey Modern" theme. 
Default showed the arrows just fine. I'll update my bug report about 
this.


Confirmed and edited your bug report.


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Re: Did SM v2.53.1 remove its column sort arrows? Modern theme was the cause.

[WaltS48 via support-seamonkey]

Ant wrote:

On 3/1/2020 10:19 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/1/2020 5:40 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ant wrote:

They used to be there in v2.49.5 and earlier. :(


I just discovered that they appear when you click on the column.

HTH


Not in my v2.53.1. :(

I see the arrows.  I am running the MacOS version of SeaMonkey 2.53.1.
WFM.


Interesting. I still see the missing arrows after I downloaded and 
upgraded an old SM v2.49.5 to v2.53.1 with 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.1/mac/en-US/seamonkey-2.53.1.en-US.mac.dmg 
in updated mac OS Mojave v10.14.6. :(


OK. I figured out what was causing it. "SeaMonkey Modern" theme. Default 
showed the arrows just fine. I'll update my bug report about this.


Confirmed and edited your bug report.

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Re: Preference Expired

[Larry S.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow.
Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A couple 
of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in terms of 
access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. until today.)


Larry
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SM 2.49.5 and Amazon videos

[JAS]

I am using SM 2.49.5 on Win 10 and have a prime video account at Amazon 
and can not view any of the videos anymore. I can with Firefox,Chrome 
and Opera. I have tried the override in about:config and the UA in Pref 
BBar but it does not seem to work. Any suggestions?


JAS
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Re: Seamonkey not responding

[Hawker]

On 2/24/2020 7:44 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Cheryl wrote:
Yes I also get the "Script has stopped responding and do I want to 
Continue or Stop the Script", and I know at that point I need to back 
out of the site if I can. This also happens to me if I go into 
Password Manager under Tools menu.




The password manager problem is covered in the release notes since some 
time:


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.5/

 >>
If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy 
when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from 
your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain 
data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If 
you are unsure if the information is needed please back up the files 
before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far 
no coding error has been found. This problem is been reported frequently 
when trying to manage passwords. But the problem will generally happen 
just after you open the Data Manager, because this component is also 
used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions and other settings.


<<

Might well be that a site tries to save to local storage or request a 
password which probbaly will fail then too.


FRG



Any chance any of you having this issue are still using Adblock Plus 
2.9.1 ?  I also have been having constant script stopped working errors 
and browser hangs. Often I get the BSOD from these.  Some googling has 
lead me to believe that it may be incompatibility with ABP. I'm going to 
try to change to uBlock or whatever it is called before updating to the 
just released version of SM.

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Re: No sound in mail notification

[Hartmut Figge]

root:

>apulse seamonkey
>forces seamonkey to load with the appropriate drivers used as a 
>workaround for pulseaudio in Puppy Linux.  Sound now working.

That step was required for an older version of apulse. It was not
necessary anymore with apulse-0.1.12-r4.

Sound in the browser is fine, yes. But I like to be notified of a new
mail by sound too. :)

Hartmut
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Re: SM 2.53.1 file bookmark

[WaltS48 via support-seamonkey]

Ray Davison wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1

Build identifier: 20191229191834

Ctrl-D (file bookmark) opens with the window truncated on the right 
side.  Unable to streach it to normal.  Add button is cut off and so 
unavailable, show stopper.  Anyone else?


Ctrl-D is apparently being altered.  I was willing to except what I am 
seeing as a local video artifact.  However, a local artifact could not 
move the save button and change it's name to "Done".


The Ctrl-D function in recent SM, WG9 and Pale Moon are all unusable but 
not for all the same reason.


Someone apparently decided to "improve" things.

Ray



Not seeing a problem with Ctrl+D here using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux 
x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1.


Will try on Win10 tomorrow.
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Re: No sound in mail notification

[root]

Well, thanks to the Puppy Linux Forums (I love those guys)...simply 
starting seamonkey from a terminal like so:


apulse seamonkey
forces seamonkey to load with the appropriate drivers used as a 
workaround for pulseaudio in Puppy Linux.  Sound now working.


Hartmut Figge wrote:

root:


Running Puppy Linux 8 (Bionic Pup) with alsa and apulse installed but
still no sound in 2.53.1


I had in the browser. With apulse-0.1.12-r4. Gentoo mostly stable.


Waterfox 2020.02 has sound...I'm perplexed.  Any ideas?


I do not know about waterfox. alsa with apulse? Be that as it may. I had
no sound regarding mail notification. Very annoying. So I decided a few
days ago to install pulseaudio on top of alsa.

That required to get rid of apulse. After a few tweaks I am now content.

Hartmut



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Re: SM 2.53.1 file bookmark

[Ray Davison]

Ray Davison wrote:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1

Build identifier: 20191229191834

Ctrl-D (file bookmark) opens with the window truncated on the right 
side.  Unable to streach it to normal.  Add button is cut off and so 
unavailable, show stopper.  Anyone else?


Ctrl-D is apparently being altered.  I was willing to except what I am 
seeing as a local video artifact.  However, a local artifact could not 
move the save button and change it's name to "Done".


The Ctrl-D function in recent SM, WG9 and Pale Moon are all unusable but 
not for all the same reason.


Someone apparently decided to "improve" things.

Ray

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Re: Preference Expired

[David E. Ross]

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:
> I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and 
> discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow. 
> Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)
> 
> Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?
> 
> Larry
> 

Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

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Per Reuters, Mexico has reported 60 cases of
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Canada has reported 24 cases.  Why is not our northern
border also being closed?  (News reports as of 2 March)
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Preference Expired

[Larry S.]

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and 
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow. 
Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)


Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 and Extensions

[Jonathan N. Little]

David E. Ross wrote:
> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
> 
> I installed the x64 SeaMonkey 2.53.1 over the x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5.
> While the Add-ons Manager indicated all my extensions were still
> enabled, the set of buttons in Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1 was missing.  That
> included buttons added from the Toolbar Buttons Web site that are not
> included in the extension's default set.
> 
> fortunately, I saved not only my profiles but also my passwords.  I have
> reverted to x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5.
> 

Just upgraded and luckily the three extensions I must have still work.
Enigmail, Mnenhy, and ReminderFox...

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Re: Problems with SM 2.53.1

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

EE wrote on 1/03/2020 6:17 PM:
I am using MacOS with SeaMonkey 2.53.1, but according to "About 
SeaMonkey", my user-agent is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; 
rv:0.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/0.0 Lightning/5.8.1.
If I check headers exchanged with web servers using Live HTTP Headers, 
I am apparently not sending any user-agent.  What is wrong with the 
user-agent reporting?  I am also unable to spoof my user-agent.


EE, I have my SeaMonkey set up to display the message User Agent as part 
of the Message Header information and you header is showing as 
'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:0.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/0.0'


Note: No mention of Lightning.

I have no idea why you think you are not sending a UA

If you want to spoof your User Agent, you can do that by 'customising' 
you Preferences/Configuration. Let us know if you really want to do 
that!! It's relatively easy.


After going through my entire list of settings, I found out that the 
cause is in about:config.

privacy.resistFingerprinting - if set to true
I have no idea what that has to do with changing my user-agent, but the 
user-agent is now normal after changing the setting to false.

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IE Tab 2 and 2.53.1

[Tom Pamin]

IE Tab 2 does not work normally with 2.53.1 as it did in 2.49.5. But I 
determined if you change the default application within Tab 2 from IE to 
Edge, you can still make it work by pressing CTRL and the Tab 2 icon. It 
will then open the url in a new Edge window.

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Re: Problems with SM 2.53.1

[Daniel]

EE wrote on 1/03/2020 6:17 PM:
I am using MacOS with SeaMonkey 2.53.1, but according to "About 
SeaMonkey", my user-agent is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; 
rv:0.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/0.0 Lightning/5.8.1.
If I check headers exchanged with web servers using Live HTTP Headers, I 
am apparently not sending any user-agent.  What is wrong with the 
user-agent reporting?  I am also unable to spoof my user-agent.


EE, I have my SeaMonkey set up to display the message User Agent as part 
of the Message Header information and you header is showing as 
'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:0.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/0.0'


Note: No mention of Lightning.

I have no idea why you think you are not sending a UA

If you want to spoof your User Agent, you can do that by 'customising' 
you Preferences/Configuration. Let us know if you really want to do 
that!! It's relatively easy.


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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 and Extensions

[Daniel]

David E. Ross wrote on 2/03/2020 4:21 AM:

On 3/1/2020 3:36 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/29/2020 3:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64

I installed the x64 SeaMonkey 2.53.1 over the x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5.
While the Add-ons Manager indicated all my extensions were still
enabled, the set of buttons in Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1 was missing.  That
included buttons added from the Toolbar Buttons Web site that are not
included in the extension's default set.

fortunately, I saved not only my profiles but also my passwords.  I have
reverted to x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5.


Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1 is incompatible. therube mentioned that 1.0.2.1 works.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3058809


I have 1.0.2 archived but not 1.0.2.1.  I do not see 1.0.2 listed among
old versions of the extension.  Other than 1.0.2.1 being signed, is
there a difference between 1.0.2 and 1.0.2.1?


Don't know:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/thunderbird/addon/toolbar-buttons/versions/?page=1#version-1.0.2.1-signed.1-signed


I cannot find a link to download 1.0.2.1 at that Web page or elsewhere.

David, I just clicked on the link Frank-Rainer provided and I'm looking 
at a button to '+ Download Now' with a note stating it 'Works with 
Thunderbird 3.0 - 37.0'


Unfortunately, under the heading "Version-1.0.2.1-signed.1-signed", it 
states 'Works with Firefox 3.0 - 38.*, SeaMonkey 2.0 - 2.34, Thunderbird 
3.0 - 37.0'


SeaMonkey *2.34* , no mention of any of the 2.4x's, let alone the 2.53's

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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?

[Daniel]

Ant wrote on 2/03/2020 8:52 AM:

On 3/1/2020 1:46 PM, Ant wrote:

On 3/1/2020 1:16 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:




Ok, that's odd, I know there are moves (in the latest browsers) to 
disable certain types of invasive behaviour, but I'm not aware of 
anything that different between FireFox and SeaMonkey right now. Have 
you confirmed for example that FireFox is using less resources than 
SeaMonkey when opening the same tabs and visiting the same sites?


Well, multiprocesses, faster speeds, etc. SM v2.49.5 still uses a 
single process. I have quadcore CPUs. I'd love to use more than one! :P


According to https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32673473-, v2.53.1 is 
actually based on Firefox v56. V2.57 is supposed to have Gecko 
improvements. Darn it! :(


My (often faulty) memory is telling me that Firefox is/was moving to 
some new engine, something that supersedes Gecko.


Is this still so?? If so, when might SeaMonkey also make the move, given 
its restricted manpower resources??


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Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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