Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Bergsagel 

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 13-06-20 22:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Why not use the latest official release of SeaMonkey?  The latest is 
2.53.2.



I am waiting the 2.53.3
I am using the Mac version by W9Gs 2.53.4b1. The only plug-in I use is 
PDF Viewer. In my experience most sites function best when I do not 
modify/spoof the user agent or advertise Firefox compatibility. This 
version is very stable i.e. "rock solid" with no major glitched or 
crashes.  Some websites do have some difficulties, but nothing major 
which might cause the user to loose data or end up with a corrupted user 
profile.


It is safe to run 2.53.2 or even the build by by W9Gs 2.53.4b1. You also 
get the benefit of additional bug fixes.  You don't need to wait for the 
official 2.53.3.  The betas are very stable (at least they are on my 
MacIntosh).

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Bergsagel 

EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



With Google Maps, I had to set the Firefox compatibility information in 
the user-agent to get SeaMonkey to work properly with it.  I had to do 
the same thing with Pale Moon as well.


Google Maps works fine with version by W9Gs 2.53.4.b1 and I am not 
advertising Firefox compatibility.  Maybe the issue Ray is experiencing 
is resolved in 2.53.4?


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Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | GetUpdateRect.

2020-06-14 Thread Paul in Houston, TX 

Ant wrote:
I guess it's only me? 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/632c79c9-89c6-471e-91b4-42d9a0200614 
as of a few minutes ago. :(



On 6/5/2020 7:40 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

My SeaMonkey loves to crash from xul.dll in my decade old, 64-bit W7 
HPE SP1 PC once in a while. Here are a few sent crash reports:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/20cc3419-007d-4e9c-b208-333ad0200530 



https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/16e81e6a-e0b7-45ed-9e93-fbb740200606 



https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/90271966-1928-4524-bf7e-ac5230200514 



It happens once in a while though. It doesn't matter how long 
SeaMonkey's uptime was. Is anyone else getting thes XUL.dll crashes 
too or just me?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)-- 


https://www.personalcomputerfixes.com/how-to-resolve-the-firefox-xul-dll-error/

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

2020-06-14 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
rt.com works in 2.57. Just checked briefly but not sure which feature it 
needs. Need to look if I find something.


He's talking about comments on the page

https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/

When you say 2.57, you mean SeaMonkey 2.57, is that a new unofficial release?




Yes the comments work in 2.57. It is the next planned major release after 
2.53.x but don't hold your breath yet. Still too broken now for general usage.


FRG
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Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | GetUpdateRect.

2020-06-14 Thread Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey 

Ant wrote:
I guess it's only me? 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/632c79c9-89c6-471e-91b4-42d9a0200614 
as of a few minutes ago. :(


Has this only been happening since you moved to SeaMonkey 2.53.2?
I was only Win7 x64 for nearly ten years with no crashes at all, (using 
SeaMonkey up to 2.49.x).


You should see a matching event in the application event log, you can 
copy and paste it.


xul.dll could mean it's related to a plugin.

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Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | GetUpdateRect.

2020-06-14 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

Ant wrote:
I guess it's only me? 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/632c79c9-89c6-471e-91b4-42d9a0200614 
as of a few minutes ago. :(



On 6/5/2020 7:40 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

My SeaMonkey loves to crash from xul.dll in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 
PC once in a while. Here are a few sent crash reports:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/20cc3419-007d-4e9c-b208-333ad0200530 



https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/16e81e6a-e0b7-45ed-9e93-fbb740200606 



https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/90271966-1928-4524-bf7e-ac5230200514 



It happens once in a while though. It doesn't matter how long SeaMonkey's 
uptime was. Is anyone else getting thes XUL.dll crashes too or just me?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)-- 


This is in the taskbar preview code. I am sure this is the crash you mentioned 
some time ago. The bug is still open for Firefox.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1277167

I put a fix for Bug 1485253 into 2.53.2 because of it but it seems not to help 
:(

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1485253

I am not sure what triggers it in your config. I am running Windows 7 too and 
never occurs here. Are the latest AMD drivers installed? 13.9 I think. Any 
toolbar extensions?


Seems Bonjour by Apple is installed which messes with the network and might 
causes problmes too.


FRG


FUNC 1e3d3f0 40 0 mozilla::widget::TaskbarPreview::MainWindowHook(void 
*,HWND__ *,unsigned int,unsigned __int64,__int64,__int64 *)


1e3d3f0 9 404 276913

1e3d3f9 5 409 276913

1e3d3fe 6 412 276913

1e3d404 9 417 276913

1e3d40d 5 418 276913

1e3d412 7 419 276913

1e3d419 6 421 276913

1e3d41f 9 422 276913

1e3d428 8 426 276913
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Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | GetUpdateRect.

2020-06-14 Thread Ant 
I guess it's only me? 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/632c79c9-89c6-471e-91b4-42d9a0200614 
as of a few minutes ago. :(



On 6/5/2020 7:40 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

My SeaMonkey loves to crash from xul.dll in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE 
SP1 PC once in a while. Here are a few sent crash reports:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/20cc3419-007d-4e9c-b208-333ad0200530 



https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/16e81e6a-e0b7-45ed-9e93-fbb740200606 



https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/90271966-1928-4524-bf7e-ac5230200514 



It happens once in a while though. It doesn't matter how long 
SeaMonkey's uptime was. Is anyone else getting thes XUL.dll crashes too 
or just me?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)-- 

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

2020-06-14 Thread Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
rt.com works in 2.57. Just checked briefly but not sure which feature it 
needs. Need to look if I find something.


He's talking about comments on the page

https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/

When you say 2.57, you mean SeaMonkey 2.57, is that a new unofficial 
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Re: Donating Issue

2020-06-14 Thread Daniel 

stango wrote on 13/06/2020 11:21 PM:

Ian Neal wrote:

On 12/06/2020 12:15 pm, boNo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

I never thought I would have to report this as an issue, yet I have 
been unable to make a donation to the SM Project for two (2) days...


Does this mean you do not need me to do so LOL

Each time I select US as my country, the website goes into a loop and 
prevents me from going forward.


I Am using W10 Pro w/SM 2.53.2

Any guidance on this will be greatly appreciated.

Warmest regards - bo1953


Hi,

So you're going to the SeaMonkey website:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/

then clicking on the donate menu option which takes you to:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/

Then clicking on the paypal link?

I don't seems to have an option to select a country.

Regards,

Ian

I think you missed the line:

Note that donations will be charged in Euro (€) regardless of the 
country the contribution is made from.


Where does one get to select which country one is donating from, so the 
correct currency unit can be determined??

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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

2020-06-14 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son 

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:34:16 UTC+1, Don Spam's Reckless Son  wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Gerry,

It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.

Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.

Try this page:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity


Same type of problem?

Andy Staszko



Definitely not.
I can read comments on the Grauniad, I can post comments on the
Grauniad.  That includes the link you provided, not that I bothered
posting there.



Ditto under 2.53.2, I can read and I can post.  You can't post unless
you are signed in.
I may be wrong on this but you might have to update your add-ons after
updating.

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Gof knows what the problem is then. I don't have any add-ons installed and I've 
disabled most of the extensions extensions.

Andy Staszko



Right back at the start you said:

Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file.


Now, does this mean you are using Windows?  Which version?  Did you have 
the 32-bit or the 64-bit of 2.49.5 installed?  Is your new version 
32-bit or 64-bit?  Did you do a proper install or just overwrite things?

Yes - I think there is something wrong with the way you upgraded.
I'd tend to uninstall the old version, check that it is really gone and 
then install the new version.
That suggestion does assume Windows.  Win XP is no longer supported, not 
sure about Vista.  You are posting via Google Groups, otherwise we could 
see the version information in the headers.


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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-14 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son 

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 7:43 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that 
comment from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, 
reply from the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which 
has been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the 
new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site 
did not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update 
and reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates 
(converts) your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You 
only need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The 
profiles are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in 
case you want to go back to 2.49.whatever.




2.49.1 is x86 and if he wants x64 he should uninstall before.

FRG


Thanks, I wasn't aware of that!



I had thought I had been explicit enough in the second part of my 
previous posting, the one where you replied "Thanks for the reminder".


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Re: Page display on www.rt.com

2020-06-14 Thread andy . staszko 
On Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:34:16 UTC+1, Don Spam's Reckless Son  wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> > andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Hello Gerry,
> >>
> >> It would also seem that The Guardian is also affected.
> >>
> >> Comments are not shown but they work Chrome.
> >>
> >> Try this page:
> >>
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/britain-public-debt-economists-coronavirus-deficit-austerity
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >> Same type of problem?
> >>
> >> Andy Staszko
> >>
> > 
> > Definitely not.
> > I can read comments on the Grauniad, I can post comments on the 
> > Grauniad.  That includes the link you provided, not that I bothered 
> > posting there.
> > 
> 
> Ditto under 2.53.2, I can read and I can post.  You can't post unless 
> you are signed in.
> I may be wrong on this but you might have to update your add-ons after 
> updating.
> 
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Gof knows what the problem is then. I don't have any add-ons installed and I've 
disabled most of the extensions extensions.

Andy Staszko
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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

2020-06-14 Thread Ray_Net 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 14-06-20 01:43:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that 
comment from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, 
reply from the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which 
has been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the 
new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site 
did not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?



Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 



In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update 
and reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates 
(converts) your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You 
only need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The 
profiles are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in 
case you want to go back to 2.49.whatever.




2.49.1 is x86 and if he wants x64 he should uninstall before.

FRG

64bits SM is better than 32bits ?
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