Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre
Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM: Hi, I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre on September 13 (today). I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7. The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared to the build from September 7 that I had been using. Has anyone else tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and responsiveness improvements. What a difference. BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6. Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just re-using the Cached data?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
WaltS48 wrote on 13/09/2020 11:06 PM:
Daniel wrote:
Ray_Net wrote on 13/09/2020 5:23 AM:
NFN Smith wrote on 12-09-20 18:27:
Danny Kile wrote:
Tried to access the following website
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent.
Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried
Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with
Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about
Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey?
Google has its own way of how they want to do things.
For simple interaction, I've found that even the search bar at
google.com has a display quirk. However, if set the User Agent to
show *only* Firefox, the quirk goes away. Thus, in about:config, I
have added an entry:
general.useragent.override.google.com Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0
I can't speak for Internet Explorer, but with Mozilla-derived
browsers, it seems that Google doesn't handle things well if the UA
string shows both "Firefox" and the name of the true browser. I've
tested with both Seamonkey and PaleMoon, and I presume the same
applies to Waterfox, as well. If you show *just* Firefox, then that
problem goes away.
You could probably get the same effect if you spoof a Chromium
browser, whether Chrome proper, or a Chromium derivative, such as
the new Edge, Opera, etc.
On the other hand, I've seen developer notes that indicate that
where Google is going with YouTube, there's beginning to appear some
things that work properly only in Chromium browsers, and even some
stuff that may not work as well in Firefox, especially versions
older than 78.x ESR.
Although you don't' have to abandon Seamonkey, you may want to get
used to the idea that you don't necessarily use Seamonkey for
everything (remember, there's nothing that requires you to commit to
exclusive use of a single browser), and be prepared to use something
other than Seamonkey to interact with certain sites.
Smith
You said: "If you show *just* Firefox, then that problem goes away. "
I have: user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/67.0");
And the https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
doesnot work.
Hmm! Ray, I just clicked on your link, with, I believe, my stock
standard SM 2.49.5 UA showing, and basically got a Blank Screen
... with a scroll-bar down the right hand side. So I scrolled
waaa down, and got an ad for the Pixel 4a "Your Pixel 4a comes
with 3 months of Google One.".
Is this what people are missing?? Or is there supposed to be something
in all that blank screen??
In my 2.53.3 with no extensions I get a page with some Google Store menu
items across the top, a Google Pixel 4a Overview and pricing information
with a "Buy" button in blue.
The rest is blank unless I scroll way down, then I see the same.
In Firefox there is a lot more animated imaging and information between
the two sections. Mostly about how great the phone is for taking pictures.
Something SeaMonkey and the other non working browser must not support.
IMHO they should stop marketing these things as phones and start
marketing them as cameras with phone capabilities. All I ever see in ads
for new phones is how great the camera is.
YMMV
Yeap but why not go the whole hog and just market them as fully
functional computers?? ;-P
--
Daniel
Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134
Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623
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About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre
Hi, I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre on September 13 (today). I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7. The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared to the build from September 7 that I had been using. Has anyone else tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and responsiveness improvements. What a difference. BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
On 9/12/2020 1:16 PM, Ant wrote: On 9/12/2020 8:15 AM, Danny Kile wrote: Tried to access the following website https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey? I guess Google doesn't want our money. ;) Weird/Odd. My yesterday's post is missing? Is this usenet server having issues again like several months ago? :( -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
Ant wrote: > I wonder if it will work in non-Chromium Edge web browser (don't have > nor want it). It doesn't. I still have that turkey on this machine. Also IE 11 fails as well. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!
Daniel wrote:
Ray_Net wrote on 13/09/2020 5:23 AM:
NFN Smith wrote on 12-09-20 18:27:
Danny Kile wrote:
Tried to access the following website
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent.
Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried
Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with
Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about
Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey?
Google has its own way of how they want to do things.
For simple interaction, I've found that even the search bar at
google.com has a display quirk. However, if set the User Agent to
show *only* Firefox, the quirk goes away. Thus, in about:config, I
have added an entry:
general.useragent.override.google.com Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0
I can't speak for Internet Explorer, but with Mozilla-derived
browsers, it seems that Google doesn't handle things well if the UA
string shows both "Firefox" and the name of the true browser. I've
tested with both Seamonkey and PaleMoon, and I presume the same
applies to Waterfox, as well. If you show *just* Firefox, then that
problem goes away.
You could probably get the same effect if you spoof a Chromium
browser, whether Chrome proper, or a Chromium derivative, such as the
new Edge, Opera, etc.
On the other hand, I've seen developer notes that indicate that where
Google is going with YouTube, there's beginning to appear some things
that work properly only in Chromium browsers, and even some stuff
that may not work as well in Firefox, especially versions older than
78.x ESR.
Although you don't' have to abandon Seamonkey, you may want to get
used to the idea that you don't necessarily use Seamonkey for
everything (remember, there's nothing that requires you to commit to
exclusive use of a single browser), and be prepared to use something
other than Seamonkey to interact with certain sites.
Smith
You said: "If you show *just* Firefox, then that problem goes away. "
I have: user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com",
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/67.0");
And the https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
doesnot work.
Hmm! Ray, I just clicked on your link, with, I believe, my stock
standard SM 2.49.5 UA showing, and basically got a Blank Screen ...
with a scroll-bar down the right hand side. So I scrolled waaa down,
and got an ad for the Pixel 4a "Your Pixel 4a comes with 3 months of
Google One.".
Is this what people are missing?? Or is there supposed to be something
in all that blank screen??
In my 2.53.3 with no extensions I get a page with some Google Store menu
items across the top, a Google Pixel 4a Overview and pricing information
with a "Buy" button in blue.
The rest is blank unless I scroll way down, then I see the same.
In Firefox there is a lot more animated imaging and information between
the two sections. Mostly about how great the phone is for taking pictures.
Something SeaMonkey and the other non working browser must not support.
IMHO they should stop marketing these things as phones and start
marketing them as cameras with phone capabilities. All I ever see in ads
for new phones is how great the camera is.
YMMV
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