Re: Export saved password SM2.53.6

2021-02-24 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

Hello,
How do you export password from SM,

Wich password manager to use with SM to sync password?

Thanks



Offhand I doubt you can do that, in part because the passwords are 
encrypted inside SM.

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Re: Blocking spam

2021-02-24 Thread NFN Smith

CC D wrote:

UPDATED: How do I block email addresses from unwanted spam. When I
get these emails I hit the spam button but they keep coming back. I
called them and I cant filter them by address because they change it
all the time. But I CAN filter it to spam when I filter out the
subject line or certain words in the subject line. Also if I include
keys words in the body of the email.


This is why blocking with filters is frustrating, and often futile.  The 
spammers randomize as much as they can, to make filtering difficult.


It's not just sender addresses, but relay server and wording in subject 
lines and message bodies.  Plus obfuscation of content, of things that 
are visually similar, but different, such as substituting numeric "0" 
for capital "O", numeric "1" and lower-case "l" or vertical bar "|". 
For the purposes of filters, they're all entirely different, and as 
such, make filter construction difficult.


If you want to make the effort for trying filters, your best bet is to 
do a lot of them that are individually focused, rather than a single 
filter that as a lot of "match any" conditions.  The more conditions 
you're checking for, the more complex the filter is, and 
correspondingly, difficult to debug, and where you run significant risks 
of both false positives and false negatives. And it's going to take a 
lot of time to get things working properly.  And given that many spam 
operations tend to work in campaigns, where they blast you incessantly 
for a few weeks, those campaigns usually end, and by the time you have 
gotten your filtering mostly working, there's no more traffic for them 
to filter.  You're really not doing much more than playing "whack a mole".


In my view, the rules engine that is built into Mozilla mail clients 
(both Thunderbird and Seamonkey) isn't especially robust, and where it's 
hard to do a lot with Boolean conditions:  AND, OR, NOT and grouping 
withing parentheses.


I'm guessing that the bulk of your spam content is originating from a 
single source. In you message headers there may be patterns that are 
more easily recognizable (and more easily addressed with filters), but 
it's probable that you're working against an experienced spamming 
operation that knows how to cover their tracks well enough to make it 
very difficult for you to try to defend yourself with client-based 
filters. This is why using the Spam button provided by your mail 
provider is usually more effective, because it enlists the power of the 
server, and where processing can be done when messages are being 
received by the server.


There is a lot of variance of how server spam filters are implemented 
from provider to provider, and as has transpired in this discussion, 
some providers' tools are more effective than others.  One thing to be 
aware of is that with server-based filters, the standard is that in 
order to be adequately effective, a filter must be exposed to a minimum 
of 100 samples of both spam and ham.  It's entirely possible that your 
server is seeing your spam designations and applying those to additional 
traffic, but where each designation only increments the threshold by a 
small amount.  If this is the case, and you've marked a relatively small 
number (even as many as a couple of dozen), you should keep marking the 
messages as spam, and it's likely that eventually, the server will be 
more severe in its evaluation of incoming messages from that source.


Beyond that, your only other options are to try to interact with your 
mail provider's tech support -- for some providers, they may be able to 
block identified sources if you give them sufficient samples to identify 
-- or to abandon that email address entirely.  Unfortunately, once a 
spammer has your address, there's no way to prevent them from sending to 
you.



One netiquette note: in this particular discussion, you've had lots of 
responses to your original question.  It's not necessary to reply to 
each poster individually (especially with the same response).  A simple 
reply to your original post is sufficient.


Smith

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Re: Blocking spam

2021-02-24 Thread Ray_Net

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 24-02-21 13:11:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 23/02/2021 22:54, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

Based on this: % Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?
together with your idea ... I have created such a filter - it works 
pretty well. (tedious to create)


If it works really well, you could add a Delete action after mMrking 
as Junk!


/df



Dangerous.  I'd always want to make sure before deleting, "Delete Mail 
Marked as Junk in Folder" can then be used.


I agree with you. Another good idea to not delete them is the fact, that 
when the spamming ends, I will see it.
BUT I think that my e-mail adresse will be present in their sending-list 
FOREVER 

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Re: Blocking spam

2021-02-24 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 23/02/2021 22:54, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

Based on this: % Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?
together with your idea ... I have created such a filter - it works 
pretty well. (tedious to create)


If it works really well, you could add a Delete action after mMrking as 
Junk!


/df



Dangerous.  I'd always want to make sure before deleting, "Delete Mail 
Marked as Junk in Folder" can then be used.


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Re: Blocking spam

2021-02-24 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 23/02/2021 22:54, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

Based on this: % Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?
together with your idea ... I have created such a filter - it works 
pretty well. (tedious to create)


If it works really well, you could add a Delete action after mMrking as 
Junk!


/df

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