Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

[Ant]

On 4/2/2021 2:06 PM, Rink wrote:

Op 2-4-2021 om 21:28 schreef Andy Burns:

Bret Busby forwarded:


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From: Chris Ilias 

Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


The three new groups

alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.software.seamonkey

have been created, no doubt population around the various usenet 
servers will be slow.  At the moment they only exist on news.aioe.org 
and one or two other servers, I've requested them on a few servers 
that I use, but will request them on more servers over the next few 
days.  If they don't show up on servers that you use, feel free to 
request them there.



I found them also on
 news.neodome.net

Thanks! :D
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Individual Sig files for UseNet server??

[Daniel]

As you can see, on the news server I have a sig file indicating my use 
of SeaMonkey on both Win7 and Linux.


With the impending move to UseNet, having just a single sig file might 
not be suitable.


So, is it possible to have "newsgroup specific" sig files so that, if 
I'm posting to a SeaMonkey group it indicates what version of SeaMonkey 
I using, if I'm posting to a Win7 group the sig file indicates I'm on 
Win7 and if posting to a Linux group the sig file indicates what version 
of Linux I'm using ... as examples?? And a general, plain vanilla, one 
for the rest.


And, if so, how??

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210117210643


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210118013008

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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

[Rink]

Op 2-4-2021 om 21:28 schreef Andy Burns:

Bret Busby forwarded:


-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 

Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


The three new groups

alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.software.seamonkey

have been created, no doubt population around the various usenet servers 
will be slow.  At the moment they only exist on news.aioe.org and one or 
two other servers, I've requested them on a few servers that I use, but 
will request them on more servers over the next few days.  If they don't 
show up on servers that you use, feel free to request them there.



I found them also on
news.neodome.net




Treat the new groups as substitutes for

mozilla.support.firefox
mozilla.support.thunderbird
mozilla.support.seamonkey

Clearly the new groups are not affiliated with Mozilla in any way, and 
will provide user-to-user support, hoping to see familiar faces there, 
play nice ...




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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

[Andy Burns]

Bret Busby forwarded:


-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 

Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


The three new groups

alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.thunderbird
alt.comp.software.seamonkey

have been created, no doubt population around the various usenet servers 
will be slow.  At the moment they only exist on news.aioe.org and one or 
two other servers, I've requested them on a few servers that I use, but 
will request them on more servers over the next few days.  If they don't 
show up on servers that you use, feel free to request them there.


Treat the new groups as substitutes for

mozilla.support.firefox
mozilla.support.thunderbird
mozilla.support.seamonkey

Clearly the new groups are not affiliated with Mozilla in any way, and 
will provide user-to-user support, hoping to see familiar faces there, 
play nice ...


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Ant]

On 4/2/2021 5:16 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
...
An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox 
without me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I 

need to

go to them to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.

Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)


Yep, I use it too in IRC. How about that! :D


That's great for you.

How about providing a service to all the others here that might want to 
do that, and explain how you added it to Chat.


I don't see the link in the topic.


Use https://ruby-rbot.org/ (an IRC bot) and add and watch 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/:


rss add seamonkeyblog https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/
rss watch seamonkeyblog

The bot will check and alert of new posts from there. :)

Actually, SeaMonkey has its own RSS reader too!
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Re: seamonkey-dev, and seamonkey-support lists/newsgroups

[Richmond]

Philip Taylor wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
> 
>> Dear All,
>>
>> If you're not aware by now, please let me state that both the Mailing
>> Lists and Newsgroups will be decommissioned soon (Early April).
> 
> As one who has not used Usenet News since (probably) the 1980s, the
> closure of the Seamonkey newsgroup(s) is not of paramount concern to
> me.  However, e-mail is my primary communication medium, and the closure
> of the mailing lists would be a significant barrier to remaining
> informed of Seamonkey development (a topic dear to my heart, speaking as
> one who had used Netscape and its offspring ever since its inception). 
> However, I may well be in a minority, so I wonder if there is any
> mechanism by which Seamonkey developers and their followers might be
> polled to find out what fraction  rely on newsgroups, what fraction rely
> on e-mail, and what fraction use another medium by which to remain
> informed and/or contribute.  I suppose I should add that I have never
> used IRC, nor would I wish to do so.

It might be possible to send newsgroup postings to email.

https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Usenet-News-HOWTO/x714.html
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Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 31/03/2021 06:28, B. Grams wrote:

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.


You need to install this language pack:
Sie mussen installieren dieses Sprachpaket:



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Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 31/03/2021 06:28, B. Grams wrote:

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.


You need to install this language pack:
Sie mussen installieren dieses Sprachpaket:



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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[WaltS48]

On 4/1/21 1:41 PM, dirkf.gm...@mailnull.com wrote:

On 01/04/2021 15:13, Chris Ilias wrote:

...> David E. Ross wrote:

The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet 
before this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available 
on Usenet when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.


In addition, the mailing lists of some of the to-be-terminated 
newsgroups are gated through gmane, eg 
gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user, gmane.comp.mozilla.announce.


If replacement mailing lists are needed then Freelists 
 would seem to be the obvious solution, 
having a "business model" similar to that of SeaMonkey.


/df


Not needed here.

I have enough for Thunderbird at it's new home.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

On 4/1/21 9:54 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/1/2021 3:53 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs 
& News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing 
to the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox 
without me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I 
need to 

go to them to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.

Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)


Yep, I use it too in IRC. How about that! :D


That's great for you.

How about providing a service to all the others here that might want to 
do that, and explain how you added it to Chat.


I don't see the link in the topic.

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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[dirkf . gmane]

On 01/04/2021 15:13, Chris Ilias wrote:

...> David E. Ross wrote:

The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet before 
this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available on Usenet 
when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.


In addition, the mailing lists of some of the to-be-terminated 
newsgroups are gated through gmane, eg 
gmane.comp.mozilla.seamonkey.user, gmane.comp.mozilla.announce.


If replacement mailing lists are needed then Freelists 
 would seem to be the obvious solution, 
having a "business model" similar to that of SeaMonkey.


/df

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Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1

[B. Grams]

ich habe heute die Version 5.53.6 auf meine Version 5.53.5.1 win32
installieren wollen. Installation bricht beim Installieren ab und die
alte Version ist wieder da!

Muß ich die alte Version erst deinstallieren, damit die Installation der
neuen Version klappt?

Ich möchte natürlich alle Einstellungen und Mails behalten.,

MfG B. Grams
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Fwd: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

[B. Grams]

ok, ist nach Neustart doch alles auf deutsch. Sorry.

--- Begin Message ---

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.

MfG. B. Grams
--- Begin Message ---

ich habe heute die Version 5.53.6 auf meine Version 5.53.5.1 win32
installieren wollen. Installation bricht beim Installieren ab und die
alte Version ist wieder da!

Muß ich die alte Version erst deinstallieren, damit die Installation der
neuen Version klappt?

Ich möchte natürlich alle Einstellungen und Mails behalten.,

MfG B. Grams
--- End Message ---
--- End Message ---
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Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 win32 germany not install of old version 2.53.5.1 / 2.53.7 yes, nur english

[B. Grams]

Hi, die Version 5.53.7 konnte ich ohne Probleme überinstallieren. Leider
ist jetzt alles nur noch in Englisch.

MfG. B. Grams
--- Begin Message ---

ich habe heute die Version 5.53.6 auf meine Version 5.53.5.1 win32
installieren wollen. Installation bricht beim Installieren ab und die
alte Version ist wieder da!

Muß ich die alte Version erst deinstallieren, damit die Installation der
neuen Version klappt?

Ich möchte natürlich alle Einstellungen und Mails behalten.,

MfG B. Grams
--- End Message ---
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Re: seamonkey-dev, and seamonkey-support lists/newsgroups

[Philip Taylor]

Edmund Wong wrote:


Dear All,

If you're not aware by now, please let me state that both the Mailing
Lists and Newsgroups will be decommissioned soon (Early April).


As one who has not used Usenet News since (probably) the 1980s, the 
closure of the Seamonkey newsgroup(s) is not of paramount concern to 
me.  However, e-mail is my primary communication medium, and the closure 
of the mailing lists would be a significant barrier to remaining 
informed of Seamonkey development (a topic dear to my heart, speaking as 
one who had used Netscape and its offspring ever since its inception).  
However, I may well be in a minority, so I wonder if there is any 
mechanism by which Seamonkey developers and their followers might be 
polled to find out what fraction  rely on newsgroups, what fraction rely 
on e-mail, and what fraction use another medium by which to remain 
informed and/or contribute.  I suppose I should add that I have never 
used IRC, nor would I wish to do so.

--
/Philip Taylor/
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