Re: SeaMonkey 2.35!
Thank you to all the people out there who do such great work keeping SeaMonkey (the one full-featured Windows FOSS browser out there that hasn't gone down the "we must copy Chrome for no good reason" route) alive and kicking. As someone who started using this browser back when it was named Mozilla and had a version number starting with zero and who has been using it ever since, I applaud all the great work that is done on it (if I wasn't so busy these days, I would even pitch in and write some code myself :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 100% CPU plugin-container
If SM is the only thing that I am using/doing stuff with, I'd hope that my SM was using as much as possible of CPU time. Its better if programs can do whatever it is they are trying to do with as little load on the CPU as possible. The less total load the CPU is under, the less power your system will use (especially important if the system is on battery power) Oh and regardless of whether SeaMonkey (or any other program) is the only foreground program you are interacting with/have open, pretty much any modern OS and desktop environment will likely be running a huge number of background programs for all sorts of reasons so you dont want any foreground process to be using so much CPU horsepower that these important background programs are starved of CPU time. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey
I reported it to google via their feedback some time ago. Maybe one day they will fix it. When they are not too busy pretending electric driverless cars are a good idea Getting Google to fix things like this is nearly impossible in my experience. I discovered a case where the Microb browser on my Nokia N900 (based on an old version of Gecko) will get sent back data from Google claiming to be "application/xhtml+xml" and where that data contains an unescaped & symbol (i.e. it should be & instead of just &). I also discovered that if I used "user agent switcher" on current SeaMonkey release version to feed Google the same user agent as MicroB, Google will send back the same bogus data. Google knows about it but has not done anything to fix it since it got reported in early 2016 or so (I ended up solving it by adding a workaround to the version of Gecko in MicroB to treat the unescaped & symbol as though it was a properly escaped & symbol instead of returning a parsing error) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey and WebGL 2.0
Will SeaMonkey be supporting WebGL 2.0 in the future like Firefox does? Or is it just that the current release version of SeaMonkey is too old for WebGL 2.0 and when the new one comes out WebGL 2.0 will be in there? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Updating from 2.46 to 2.48
Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey and OpenH264
Some time ago Cisco released a H.264 implementation called OpenH264 in source and binary form for download from a Cisco server. As part of this Cisco pays full H.264 patent royalties for this plugin. Firefox contains something to download OpenH264 from the Cisco server (meaning Firefox can then have H.264 support without any patent issues) Does SeaMonkey also use this code to download OpenH264 and get H.264 support that way? Is this something that is planned? Is there a reason SeaMonkey cant do what FireFox does? Is the Firefox OpenH264 support even used for HTML5 video or is it only being used for WebRTC and online video chat things? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Strange issue with commenting on http://brickingaround.com/
If I visit http://brickingaround.com/ with SeaMonkey 2.48 then click one of the articles and fill in the details and try to post a comment, I get a strange logo where the post form was and the post doesn't go through. If I post with Internet Explorer (IE 11 with whatever the latest patches Windows Update offers me on my Windows 7 box) the post works fine. Can anyone who knows more about this tell me what SeaMonkey is doing differently and why this site doesn't work in SeaMonkey and what can be done to fix it (changing settings/prefs in SeaMonkey, talking to the web site owner to get them to make changes, using an extention or some custom JavaScript or something or something else entirely) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting Adobe to work!!
I use iView all the time with SeaMonkey and it works for me just fine. When you see the "error loading media" screen, you should see a blue icon in the URL bar. If you press it, a drop-down will appear. Where it says "activate plugins", if you select the down arrow and then "always activate plugins for this site" it should then automatically activate Flash for the iView website. You can then reload the page and it should start working properly. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting Adobe to work!!
Just as a by-the-by, Jonathan, do you actually log-in to the website or not?? I'm not!! I am not logged in either. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting Adobe to work!!
And noted that your sig file has disappeared, totally. I turned it off :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: router login - error 401, unauthorized
I am also seeing the same issue. I have a Netgear DGN2200M router. If I access the admin interface via SeaMonkey 2.48 I get the "401 Unauthorized" screen even though I have previously stored the correct username and password in the SeaMonkey password manager (and even if SM didn't have that info for some reason, it should be prompting me for it with a dialog box) If I try to access the same admin interface via Internet Explorer it works just fine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: router login - error 401, unauthorized
I just quit and restarted SeaMonkey and like magic the login worked if I went straight there and didn't open anything else (mail, ChatZilla etc) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem with ABC iview
When I visit the ABC iview website (iview.abc.net.au, probably only works for Australians) it displays "click to activate Adobe Flash" even though I have selected "always activate for this site" in the past. If I click the blue brick icon that is now showing up and select "always activate for this site" it doesn't activate automatically at all. My Flash player version is 29.0.0.113 (the latest Adobe shows on their site) and until very recently it worked just fine but now its acting weird (and no I am not viewing things in a private browsing window). Is there some way I can just tell SeaMonkey "hey, I dont care about all the warnings and stuff, I just want Flash to always work on this particular site when I visit it"? (or alternatively if someone knows of a way to get the desktop version of the website to serve me HTML5 rather than Flash, that's also a suitable solution) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for a while and visit different sites and open and close windows and such, eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the point of almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which takes ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will start being usable again. In some cases I have to force-close SeaMonkey completly because its totally hung and simply wont respond to my inputs. I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster. The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost no free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey was using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I attached to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the windows memory allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the call stack) with some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing after the windows code. Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as plugins) be the cause of the problems? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to delete one group of cookies?
Option 1: Use this link for the Cookie Manager: Thanks for this link, its exactly what I needed to remove some bogus cookies that were preventing the Microsoft MSDN forums from working for me :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Images not displaying on brickset.com
When I visit a URL like https://brickset.com/sets/79111-1/Constitution-Train-Chase I should see a picture of a train. If I visit using an alternative browser (Internet Explorer in this case) or with a fresh profile for testing, the image shows up. But on my primary SeaMonkey profile, I can't see the images. I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (the latest release version). I have tested a restart in safe mode (on my primary profile) and the images are still gone (so that rules out adblock or any other add-ons being the cause) Anyone know what could cause the images not to display? I have attempted to check the permissions by going to "preferences-privacy and security-images" and pressing "manage permissions" which displays a "data manager" window but that doesn't work (SM hangs for a bit then displays an error that dataman.js is too slow or something and stops running the script, the dialog does nothing after that) Is there a way to see/edit any image related permissions that may be set without needing to use the "data manager"? Is there a way to get the "data manager" to work without crashing (and without me needing to delete any of my stored cookies or other stored data?) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
ABC iview in SeaMonkey
The ABC seem to have updated their iview catch up TV site and now it doesn't work in SeaMonkey anymore. Pressing "play" on any video just gets a "no playable sources found" error. Do I need a plugin or something? And if so, where do I get it? (a check of the network activity using the developer tools shows some JSON that mentions some suspiciously MPEG-looking things but I have no clue how that stuff works on SeaMonkey on Windows) I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (latest public version) on Windows 7. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin
I am not 100% sure but I suspect the issue has to do with the fact that the Widevine CDM will only load if the binaries that are loading it haven't been tampered with (since a binary that isn't recognized as "authorized" could have been modified to steal whatever content the Widevine CDM is being used to protect). My guess is that SeaMonkey doesn't include the code to download and use the Widevine CDM because the way the infrastructure currently works means that whatever deal allows appropriately signed Firefox bits to be trusted by the Widevine CDM doesn't allow SeaMonkey bits to be signed and trusted the same way. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Weird problem with Google
When I try to search for things with Google, I get this https://drive.google.com/file/d/10F-vnAElpyTDBL3AR3ysWV1QSY8n8X7a/view?usp=sharing I have tried with a fresh brand new test profile, I have tried deleting any and all Google cookies and I have tried restarting the browser several times and nothing works. Google does display correctly in Internet Explorer, just not in SeaMonkey (I have version 2.49.4 which I believe is the latest version) Anyone got any ideas what might be going on or how to fix it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Weird problem with Google
Thanks, that seems to work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...
I for one intend to continue using Sea Monkey as long as it remains possible to do so. If I wasn't busy with a billion other things, I would even find a way to contribute to the project somehow and make good use of my C++ skills. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...
Pretty much the only site I visit on a semi-regular basis that is unusable in SeaMonkey is a site that doesn't work because it needs the DRM plugins for media. (its a catch-up site for a TV network) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox (and other browsers do). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey and www.slack.com?
Is there any version of SeaMonkey (official or otherwise) that is stable (i.e. no major breaking bugs known) and that works with www.slack.com? It was working previously with a user-agent override but seems like they changed it and now it wont work anymore. Is there any version I can use or do I need to keep using the Slack desktop app? (which I have just installed and started using) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and www.slack.com?
It's seems working with my SM: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 If I use that user-agent in the useragent override, I get "Please update your browser or use the Slack app". If I use this (my current go-to user agent for sites that don't work properly with SeaMonkey and one that worked just fine for Slack until now) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 it lets me log in and drops me at an app.slack.com url which then displays a dark colored bar on one side and a white box in the middle (but no content in either box when there should be content) If I bring up the developer toolbar, I see an icon that says "5 errors, 1 warning" and I can't see how to display those 5 errors. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and www.slack.com?
Have you tried with just the stock standard SeaMonkey User Agent string?? If I remove the override, I get the same "please update your browser" message. I only get the message if I actually try to access a work space (so anything you see when you view the main page means nothing since that all works even for me) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: We're sticking with Seamonkey!
I intend to keep using SeaMonkey so long as it continues to work for the majority of the web sites I need to visit (there are a few sites that require a user-agent override and 1 or 2 that I need to use an alternative option for including some that dont work because SM doesn't support the DRM plugins the way FF does). If I had enough time and knowledge of the codebase I would even consider using my C++ skills and become a contributor to SeaMonkey (if nothing else so that I could do my bit to help make SeaMonkey work again on the sites that I currently need to use alternatives for) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google search messed up
I have "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0" set in about:config under general.useragent.override.google.com.au and it seems to work for me. Without that user agent override I get the same problems others have described. I have "Advertise Firefox Compatibility" turned on btw. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Twitter WTH???
I have a useragent override set for general.useragent.override.twitter.com to "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 9.0; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko" and twitter is working just fine for me. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey mail slow since move to Windows 10
I recently moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (fresh install on the same hardware, not an in-place upgrade since I wanted to get rid of all the crap) and now pretty much every time I open SeaMonkey mail, SeaMonkey slows down and stops responding. This never happened on Windows 7. Anyone got any ideas why it could be happening? Something to do with the MS Antivirus thing in Windows 10? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is anyone else getting stuck seamonkey.exe?
I experienced that problem many times when I was on Windows 7. But when I moved to Windows 10, it seems to have gone away completely. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is there an add-on that blocks Twitter promoted tweets?
Is there an add-on for blocking Twitter promoted tweets that actually works I tried a number of different ad-blockers and other things claiming to block promoted tweets (both on SeaMonkey and on a copy of Firefox I had laying around) but nothing out there seems to be able to block them. Does such a thing exist? (for SeaMonkey ideally but even something for another browser that works would help since it would give me useful info on where to start in terms of blocking these things) Or has Twitter finally made it impossible for blockers to tell the difference between a promoted tweet and a regular tweet? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem viewing commits on gitlab.com with SeaMonkey.
If I try to view a commit on gitlab.com such as https://gitlab.com/w3dhub/a-path-beyond-sdk/-/commit/a615e4d328a3f4ab1c60c3371308b28272489ccd with SeaMonkey, I see no output. Works fine for the same commit on the Chrome-based version of Edge as well as version 81.0 of Firefox (FirefoxPortable specifically if that makes a difference). Is there something I can do (say, a useragent override) that would get the page working again or is this a site that just won't work in SeaMonkey (I have 2.53.4) anymore? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem viewing commits on gitlab.com with SeaMonkey.
Its working for me now. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey and imgur.com
Does anyone know how I can get imgur images to work in SeaMonkey? All I get when I visit such a URL is a blank screen. I tried user-agent overrides to identify as Firefox but that did nothing. Works fine in several other web browsers I have available on this PC, just not SeaMonkey. I tried with adblock disabled as well and that didn't help so its not that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and imgur.com
If you don't want to upgrade yet, it is (unless things have changed recently) possible to disable the new imgur interface by visiting Thanks, that worked great. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem with Twitter in SeaMonkey
When I visit Twitter with SeaMonkey (latest version on Windows) I get "Something went wrong." with a "try again" button that does nothing. It works fine on other browsers on the same machine. I have tried deleting all the Twitter related cookies and logging in again fresh and that didn't work. Anyone else seen this or got any suggestions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with Twitter in SeaMonkey
I tried another profile, that didn't help. And I have referrers turned on. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: iTV-Discovery +
The way I remember it, the then Firefox "chairman" (whatever the position is called) made the decision to support DRM. The decision was not popular and there are ways of configuring FF to disable that feature. The whole discussion was a couple of years back so I'm short on details but the search engine of your choice should throw them up for anyone who cares. Part of the argument made at the time in supporting the DRM stuff is that DRM is here to stay (because Hollywood insists on it) and that its better to have DRM that's at least somewhat standardized rather than needing different proprietary crap for every different site or something. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending 'Webmail account' e-mails from SM M & N screen
On the "Outgoing Server (SMTP) Settings screen, I have my tpg.com.au account selected as (Default) with the correct User Name and, I hope, the correct 'Normal Password' and 'Connection Security' is set to 'SSL/T?S'. I also use TPG for internet and for the outgoing server I have it set to mail.tpg.com.au port 25 with security set to none and authentication set to no authentication. Works just fine for sending emails. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey