Re: Password managers
On 3/15/2021 7:56 AM, NFN Smith wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I have never used a password manager, but I am being pushed to use one. But I'd like to know if any of them are compatible with SeaMonkey. Can someone help me, please? I use a mix of KeePass and the manager that's built into Seamonkey. I consider my KeePass store to be primary, but I let the built-in one remember passwords for sites that I use regularly. If you use the Seamonkey mail client and let it remember passwords, you're already using the Seamonkey password manager, especially for sending mail. If you're using the password manager, then you do want to make sure you have the master password set, using a non-trivial password. With the master set, then you'll get prompted to enter it once per session, the first time you do anything that requires a password. The value of an external password tool is portability, and there's a variety of ways that you can use it, and you don't necessarily have to use the cloud. With KeePass, I don't put my password store on a cloud server, but I do keep one copy on my main work computer, and I keep a second copy on my LAN, where I can get to that from any of the computers in my LAN. KeePass does have a synchronization tool where I can sync any time I need. A good intro to KeePass: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-manage-your-passwords-effectively-with-keepass/ Because KeePass is a separate program (rather than a browser extension, as many are/try to be) it also allows me a lot of ability to get to my content from outside of Seamonkey. The UI allows me to open a saved URL on a couple of mouse clicks, whether my default browser (Seamonkey), or to choose another browser. Additionally, with scripting support built in, it allows me to do logins in places where user ID and password are separate screens (not just consecutive form entries), and I can even use it to do a cert-based login in an SSH session. Personally, I choose not to keep stuff on the cloud, but if your store has a strong access password, then I think you're pretty safe, whether you're using KeePass or something else. There may be variants, but I have investigated LastPass, and I'm convinced that they are a zero-knowledge setup, where they don't have access to encryption keys. Several years ago, LastPass was hacked, but from the reports I saw, all the intruders had access to was encrypted files. The only people who were vulnerable were ones using weak passwords. Under ownership of LogMeIn, LastPass has recently announced that they're limiting use of unpaid access to only one or two devices, and for wider use, requires upgrade to a paid tier of service. The place where many want a cloud-based service is if they're trying to coordinate access over multiple devices (especially the mix of computer/tablet/phone). However, with a little effort on your part, you can still synchronize a computer and phone without going through the cloud to get there. The primary negative on KeePass is with the user interface. It's an open-source project, and has many of the common things, both in the quality of graphical display (XP-vintage graphics), and that there are so many advanced features, that it can be a little intimidating for a newbie to get started with. In this context, it's worth noting that there is a companion project -- KeePassXC. It's not actually KeePass, but a separate work interacts seamlessly with KeePass files. KeePassXC has a softer feel to the UI, less of the case-specific advanced features, and also supports both Mac and Linux. Another possible option to consider could be Password Safe. I haven't looked at it in detail, but it's similar to KeePass as stand-alone tool that's not normally integrated with a cloud-based service. I don't believe that Password Safe is quite as extensive in its feature set. The other thing about Password Safe is that it originated with security researcher Bruce Schneier (also the originator of the blowfish encryption algorithm), although it's now also an open source project. Smith Thanks to all for the advice. I will have to study all this carefully. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password managers
On 3/14/2021 2:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 3/14/2021 1:21 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: I have never used a password manager, but I am being pushed to use one. But I'd like to know if any of them are compatible with SeaMonkey. Can someone help me, please? Why not use the password manager that is already built into SeaMonkey? I would definitely avoid any third-party password manager that stores passwords on an external server or on the cloud. Those are very tempting targets for hackers. The third-party password managers work (I am told) synchronously across devices, so I could use one both for my desktop computer (SeaMonkey) and my cellphone (Chrome). And there are some websites that are just incompatible with SM, so I access them with Edge, usually. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password managers
I have never used a password manager, but I am being pushed to use one. But I'd like to know if any of them are compatible with SeaMonkey. Can someone help me, please? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot access microsoft office website
On 4/13/2019 4:31 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: On 11.04.2019 22:33, Norman Fuchs wrote: A. I had cookies blocked That means "problem solved"? Yes, indeed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot access microsoft office website
On 4/11/2019 1:10 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: 🐴 Mr. Ed 🐴 wrote: On 04/11/19 2:03 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: If I enter the URL portal.office.com, after a few redirects I land at https://www.office.com/?trysignin=0 but the display on SeaMonkey is completely blank. I am running version 2.49.4, the most recent one AFAIK. I have no such problem with Firefox. Is there a solution to this problem? If I access it using SeaMonkey with only SeaMonkey in the UserAgent string I get a blank page. If I change the UserAgent to anything else it displays correctly. -- "This is America! You can't make a horse testify against himself!" -Mister Ed I cleared cache and cookies, and accessed the site normally without difficulty. Then I toggled "Advertise Firefox compatibility," cleared cache and cookies, and accessed the site normally without difficulty. Then I toggled "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to normal, cleared cache and cookies, and accessed the site normally without difficulty. A. I had cookies blocked, I just discovered. Thanks for everything! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot access microsoft office website
On 4/11/2019 12:12 PM, 🐴 Mr. Ed 🐴 wrote: On 04/11/19 2:03 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: If I enter the URL portal.office.com, after a few redirects I land at https://www.office.com/?trysignin=0 but the display on SeaMonkey is completely blank. I am running version 2.49.4, the most recent one AFAIK. I have no such problem with Firefox. Is there a solution to this problem? If I access it using SeaMonkey with only SeaMonkey in the UserAgent string I get a blank page. If I change the UserAgent to anything else it displays correctly. -- "This is America! You can't make a horse testify against himself!" -Mister Ed I've tried changing UserAgent to FF 58 and to IE 11, all without any difference from using Real UA. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: cannot access microsoft office website
On 4/11/2019 11:24 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/11/19 2:03 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: If I enter the URL portal.office.com, after a few redirects I land at https://www.office.com/?trysignin=0 but the display on SeaMonkey is completely blank. I am running version 2.49.4, the most recent one AFAIK. I have no such problem with Firefox. Is there a solution to this problem? Not completely blank here. Have you tried safe mode? <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode> Nor here on 2.49.4. Most likely disabled javascript or bad add-on, something like that. If it's only SM, it couldn't be a firewall or anything systemic. Same result in safe mode. How do I check on javascript? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
cannot access microsoft office website
If I enter the URL portal.office.com, after a few redirects I land at https://www.office.com/?trysignin=0 but the display on SeaMonkey is completely blank. I am running version 2.49.4, the most recent one AFAIK. I have no such problem with Firefox. Is there a solution to this problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Passwords do not transfer when updating
I have been running SM 2.26.1 for some time, and I thought it would be a good thing to update to a recent version. However, when I do so, I lose all my passwords. Well, not really lose -- if I revert to 2.26.1, they are all there. They just don't show up after I update. That's true no matter if I update to 2.35, 2.38 or 2.39. I've tried to use Mozbackup, but the same thing happens there. I've also used Password Exporter, but with the same result, even though it reports that all passwords were imported into the new version. Would anyone please help me? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Passwords lost after upgrade [Was: Problems viewing messages]
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I tried to update from SM 2.25, which I was using, to SM 2.38. All looked OK, until I discovered that all my passwords were gone! I tried SM 2.33, with the same result. Now I'm back to SM 2.25 and all is working fine. I'd like to update, but not if I have to lose all my passwords! I ran across a few quirks when updating from 2.26.1 to 2.33. As far as I can tell from a related bug report (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1092810#c16), it looks like any update from <=2.30 to >=2.31 is probably affected. Since it sounds like your passwords are still working having reverted to 2.25, try the following: - Create a backup of your profile (just in case!) - In 2.25, remove the master password; ise Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Master Passwords > Change Password, enter the current password and leave the new password blank (DO NOT use "Reset Password" as that clears all your stored passwords). - Upgrade to the latest version. - Check that the passwords are still there. - Set the master password again. Details of my experiences posted to this list are archived here: <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/IlbYHw5329E> Don't just copy the steps in my first post there though - removing the master password before updating is a much easier workaround which I didn't come across until later! I hope that helps. Mark. I'm embarrassed to admit that i don't use a master password, so I would guess this is not my problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
chicagofan wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: As I said at the end of my last message, I have NO Subject: line, so I cannot click on any little triangle to its left. In fact, as I said, I have NO Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:. There is an option to view Headers as all or normal. No matter which one I check, I get no header. Ah, sorry. Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix that, but I've pruned everything else so someone who reads this can focus on the main issue and perhaps help you. Thanks for your help. I hope someone can help me. I can use Thunderbird to read my mail & access my attachments, but I'd rather use SM. Another piece of information that might help: if I print a message in SM, I get the headers, but they don't appear when viewing the message. I have found an old, old bug that might be relevant, but I'm not tech-savvy enough to know what to do: Bug 106461 - header pane disappears in three-pane window (caused by corrupt abook.mab) I am reposting this plea, since I have not been able to solve my problem, and I am still optimistic that someone out there can help. In short, I believe, my problem is that I see NO header pane for any of my messages, in any of my accounts. I had that problem once, with a theme I was using. I reverted to an old theme and the problem went away. I haven't read this whole thread, so I'm wondering if you've updated SM ... or a theme lately? Maybe they aren't compatible, if so? bj I created a new profile and ran in safe mode. The mail & newsgroup messages were just fine, as they should be, with headers & attachments in view. I took this to indicate that some add-on was causing a problem, so I went back to the old (default) profile and disabled a couple of addons. That seems to have done the trick. So, encouraged by this success, I tried to update from SM 2.25, which I was using, to SM 2.38. All looked OK, until I discovered that all my passwords were gone! I tried SM 2.33, with the same result. Now I'm back to SM 2.25 and all is working fine. I'd like to update, but not if I have to lose all my passwords! And to answer your question, I have never changed my theme from the default. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
Norman Fuchs wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: As I said at the end of my last message, I have NO Subject: line, so I cannot click on any little triangle to its left. In fact, as I said, I have NO Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:. There is an option to view Headers as all or normal. No matter which one I check, I get no header. Ah, sorry. Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix that, but I've pruned everything else so someone who reads this can focus on the main issue and perhaps help you. Thanks for your help. I hope someone can help me. I can use Thunderbird to read my mail & access my attachments, but I'd rather use SM. Another piece of information that might help: if I print a message in SM, I get the headers, but they don't appear when viewing the message. I have found an old, old bug that might be relevant, but I'm not tech-savvy enough to know what to do: Bug 106461 - header pane disappears in three-pane window (caused by corrupt abook.mab) I am reposting this plea, since I have not been able to solve my problem, and I am still optimistic that someone out there can help. In short, I believe, my problem is that I see NO header pane for any of my messages, in any of my accounts. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
Norman Fuchs wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: As I said at the end of my last message, I have NO Subject: line, so I cannot click on any little triangle to its left. In fact, as I said, I have NO Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:. There is an option to view Headers as all or normal. No matter which one I check, I get no header. Ah, sorry. Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix that, but I've pruned everything else so someone who reads this can focus on the main issue and perhaps help you. Thanks for your help. I hope someone can help me. I can use Thunderbird to read my mail & access my attachments, but I'd rather use SM. Another piece of information that might help: if I print a message in SM, I get the headers, but they don't appear when viewing the message. I have found an old, old bug that might be relevant, but I'm not tech-savvy enough to know what to do: Bug 106461 - header pane disappears in three-pane window (caused by corrupt abook.mab) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: As I said at the end of my last message, I have NO Subject: line, so I cannot click on any little triangle to its left. In fact, as I said, I have NO Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:. There is an option to view Headers as all or normal. No matter which one I check, I get no header. Ah, sorry. Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix that, but I've pruned everything else so someone who reads this can focus on the main issue and perhaps help you. Thanks for your help. I hope someone can help me. I can use Thunderbird to read my mail & access my attachments, but I'd rather use SM. Another piece of information that might help: if I print a message in SM, I get the headers, but they don't appear when viewing the message. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: The attachment pane is normally hidden unless you click the little triangle to the left of the "Subject:" line. (That triangle also reveals details like From:, To:, etc.) Once you reveal it, you can then right-click filenames to save attachments, open them, etc. This is true in all the versions you mention. As for viewing the messages themselves, what happens if you double-click instead of single-clicking? Don't you get a new window with the message displayed? I don't know what you mean by an "attachment pane." I have chosen to display details like Recipient, Subject, Attachment paperclip, From, Date, Size. There are headers for all these in my listing of messages in each mail folder. This info is in the pane above the one in which the message itself is displayed. Until today, when I played around with updating, if the message had an attachment there would be a listing of attachments at the top of the message (maybe that's what you mean by the attachment pane), and I could access the attachment by clicking on the relevant attachment. Left-click to open the attachment, right click to get a drop down menu to do what you mention. Ahhh, now I begin to see what you're saying -- my messages no longer have any headers displayed: no Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:. How do I get this back? Please read the first two lines of my previous message. As I said at the end of my last message, I have NO Subject: line, so I cannot click on any little triangle to its left. In fact, as I said, I have NO Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:. There is an option to view Headers as all or normal. No matter which one I check, I get no header. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I have been running SM 2.25 (under windows 8.1), since I haven't updated because of the sync problem. Now that I see that my waiting is no longer sensible, I tried to update to 2.33.1 and also to 2.38. In both cases I am unable to view my messages with the updates. The list of folders, messages, etc. is complete, but the messages do not appear when clicked on. I have gone back and forth from 2.25 to these newer versions. Unfortunately, now when I am using 2.25, I can view my messages -- but no attachments! This is a new problem. The attachment paper clip shows in the message list, but when I view the message (any message with an attachment) there's no indication in the message pane that there's any attachment, so I have nothing to click on. Please, does anyone have a suggestion for me? The attachment pane is normally hidden unless you click the little triangle to the left of the "Subject:" line. (That triangle also reveals details like From:, To:, etc. Once you reveal it, you can then right-click filenames to save attachments, open them, etc. This is true in all the versions you mention. As for viewing the messages themselves, what happens if you double-click instead of single-clicking? Don't you get a new window with the message displayed? I don't know what you mean by an "attachment pane." I have chosen to display details like Recipient, Subject, Attachment paperclip, From, Date, Size. There are headers for all these in my listing of messages in each mail folder. This info is in the pane above the one in which the message itself is displayed. Until today, when I played around with updating, if the message had an attachment there would be a listing of attachments at the top of the message (maybe that's what you mean by the attachment pane), and I could access the attachment by clicking on the relevant attachment. Left-click to open the attachment, right click to get a drop down menu to do what you mention. Ahhh, now I begin to see what you're saying -- my messages no longer have any headers displayed: no Subject:, To:, From:, CC:, Date:. How do I get this back? As for viewing the messages themselves, if I double click I get a new window just as you say, but it's the same -- i.e., no indication of attachments. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote on 06/10/15 02:36: I have been running SM 2.25 (under windows 8.1), since I haven't updated because of the sync problem. Now that I see that my waiting is no longer sensible, I tried to update to 2.33.1 and also to 2.38. In both cases I am unable to view my messages with the updates. The list of folders, messages, etc. is complete, but the messages do not appear when clicked on. I have gone back and forth from 2.25 to these newer versions. Unfortunately, now when I am using 2.25, I can view my messages -- but no attachments! This is a new problem. The attachment paper clip shows in the message list, but when I view the message (any message with an attachment) there's no indication in the message pane that there's any attachment, so I have nothing to click on. Please, does anyone have a suggestion for me? Norm Fuchs Maybe Messaging's "View / _D_isplay Attachments Inline" menu item isn't checked. No, that's checked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems viewing messages
Mason83 wrote: On 05/10/2015 20:36, Norman Fuchs wrote: I have been running SM 2.25 (under windows 8.1), since I haven't updated because of the sync problem. Now that I see that my waiting is no longer sensible, I tried to update to 2.33.1 and also to 2.38. In both cases I am unable to view my messages with the updates. The list of folders, messages, etc. is complete, but the messages do not appear when clicked on. I have gone back and forth from 2.25 to these newer versions. Unfortunately, now when I am using 2.25, I can view my messages -- but no attachments! This is a new problem. The attachment paper clip shows in the message list, but when I view the message (any message with an attachment) there's no indication in the message pane that there's any attachment, so I have nothing to click on. Please, does anyone have a suggestion for me? Did you try right clicking on a folder, then Properties, then Repair Folder? I tried that and there was no change. The problem is affecting all folders, in any case. Also, there's an odd behavior when I go from one folder to another: I cannot go directly. If I want to go from folder 1 to folder 2, for example, I have to click in this order: 3,2, where folder 3 is any other one. When I click on 3, nothing apparently happens -- i.e., I still see the message list for 1 -- but when I then click on 2, I get the list for 2. I hope this is clear. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problems viewing messages
I have been running SM 2.25 (under windows 8.1), since I haven't updated because of the sync problem. Now that I see that my waiting is no longer sensible, I tried to update to 2.33.1 and also to 2.38. In both cases I am unable to view my messages with the updates. The list of folders, messages, etc. is complete, but the messages do not appear when clicked on. I have gone back and forth from 2.25 to these newer versions. Unfortunately, now when I am using 2.25, I can view my messages -- but no attachments! This is a new problem. The attachment paper clip shows in the message list, but when I view the message (any message with an attachment) there's no indication in the message pane that there's any attachment, so I have nothing to click on. Please, does anyone have a suggestion for me? Norm Fuchs ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.29.1
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 9/25/2014 12:29 PM, NoOp wrote: Seems to have been released... from the RSS feed: " As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process, SeaMonkey 2.29.1 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. We recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest release. For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey 2.29 Release Notes. " Why no notice here, or on the dev list? Because it was a draining effort on all of us, we were planning on doing an announce here, but you beat me to it (thank you). Also wondering where the "official" 64 bit linux version is - particularly since new linux64 build hosts were added (yes, I'm aware that they had a firmware issue earlier in the month - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058385). Primarily due to us still needing to catchup infra wise, you'll notice no 2.30 Beta is out yet, much to my dismay (We're hung up on windows issues atm) So I'm trying not to change too much of our release process while we devote time to fixing the broken, rather than improving the not. ~Justin Wood (Callek) I appreciate all the work done by the developers, but I will stay with 2.25 until the sync bug (998807) is fixed. Looks like that will be a long time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Cannot sync from newly installed Seamonkey to old
I am running SM 2.26 on two machines, both under Windows 8.1. The "old" machine has Sync set up and has worked just fine for months. I just obtained a new ultrabook (Surface 2 Pro) and installed SeaMonkey on it, same version. When I try to sync the new SM by saying I already have an account (which I do), I get as far as entering the codes supplied by the old SM into the new SM but the "Next" button is grayed out and stays that way. Never changes, even after several hours. If I tell the new SM that I'll set up a new sync account, it will not accept any email address whatsoever. "Unknown error." This is all very frustrating. Does anyone have a suggestion for me? Norm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sync broken in 2.26 beta 1?
Exactly my problem as well. Both machines running SeaMonkey 2.26, but I cannot get past the "Next" stage of the sync setup. Both machines on Windows 8.1 Pro. Please, any help? Norm On 5/10/2014 7:29 PM, kg6...@gmail.com wrote: Not working on my Seamonkey 2.26 released version running on both computers also. Next button grayed out on #2 computer providing the sync pairing code. On #1 excepts and adds code fine. Ron On Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:58:29 AM UTC-7, Byron Smith wrote: Absolutely cannot set up Sync in Seamonkey 2.26 beta 1. I have login credentials and recovery key. Could not pair a device to set up a new sync on Seamonkey. Also could not login using credentials and recovery key as Next button does nothing (and neither does the link about having lost a device). Could this because I switched over to the new sync profile in Firefox 29.0 beta? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to change email password on SM?
On 8/8/2013 10:21 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: On 8/8/2013 3:02 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: Then I suspect that either your Usenet a/c or your IMAP a/c is not using the default o/g server. Look under : Edit / Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings then select each of the accounts in turn (by clicking on its name in the left-hand pane) and look at the very lowest setting in the right-hand pane where you should see : Outgoing Server (SMTP) [default] Look to see if any are other than [default] Yes, there are two listed. One is smtp.purdue.edu (default) and the other is smtp.googlemail.com. I've discovered that if I set the googlemail server for outgoing as my default for my Purdue account, it works. Curious. Does this mean I should always have only one o/g server? If so, why does SM allow me to list many? I've always had the two servers listed. Not necessarily, I've got two and it's not a problem. But some ISPs are finicky, won't let you use anyone else's SMTP server. Bottom line -- if you can get it to work, go with that. Thank you for your help. I now recall that at one time I had the two servers in the opposite order, so perhaps that caused the problem. I have no idea how to change that order of listing. In any case, it all works now, so thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to change email password on SM?
On 8/8/2013 3:02 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: As a further confusion, I am able to post to this newsgroup (by hitting "Reply" when viewing a news posting. I assume this uses the purdue smtp server. But I am not able to do exactly the same thing while viewing an email in my purdue IMAP account. Then I suspect that either your Usenet a/c or your IMAP a/c is not using the default o/g server. Look under : Edit / Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings then select each of the accounts in turn (by clicking on its name in the left-hand pane) and look at the very lowest setting in the right-hand pane where you should see : Outgoing Server (SMTP) [default] Look to see if any are other than [default] Philip Taylor Yes, there are two listed. One is smtp.purdue.edu (default) and the other is smtp.googlemail.com. I've discovered that if I set the googlemail server for outgoing as my default for my Purdue account, it works. Curious. Does this mean I should always have only one o/g server? If so, why does SM allow me to list many? I've always had the two servers listed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to change email password on SM?
On 8/7/2013 2:49 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: On 8/7/2013 2:25 PM, PhillipJones wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I have had to change my email password at my server, but now I am not able to access my mail with SM (2.19). I never get a prompt to change the password, just a timeout to the server. How can I change the password? I've deleted the account and created a new one, but I'm never asked for a password. Remove any cookies related to you server and remove any username/password for your Server then reenter everything as it comes up. That's exactly the problem: there is NO entry for a password (or anything else) for my smtp server. OK, maybe you're not looking in the right place (it threw me at first, too). In the Password Manager, instead of looking for smtp.purdue.edu, look for purdue.edu. If you click that entry, then in the right-hand pane you'll see several entries, one beginning with "smtp" -- that's the one you want. For example, I use verizon.net, and I have the following entries (concealing my personal data): mailbox://mail.verizon.net (mailbox://mail.verizon.net)...username...PW smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net)...username...PW The first one is to receive mail, the second is to send mail. Yes, I know that. In my Password Manager I have imap://exchange.purdue.edu(imap://exchange.purdue.edu) usernamePW and nothing at all for the outgoing server, which is smtp.purdue.edu. As a further confusion, I am able to post to this newsgroup (by hitting "Reply" when viewing a news posting. I assume this uses the purdue smtp server. But I am not able to do exactly the same thing while viewing an email in my purdue IMAP account. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to change email password on SM?
On 8/7/2013 2:21 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I am now able to receive mail, and all my folders are correctly mapped. However, I am still unable to send mail via SM. (I've updated now to 2.20.) I was never prompted to provide a password, so I suspect that might be the problem. I can send mail via Thunderbird, and the settings for the outgoing server are exactly the same as for SeaMonkey. I'm really at a loss. I get an error message from the SMTP server, but it's not helpful: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent using SMTP server smtp.purdue.edu for an unknown reason. Please verify that your SMTP server settings are correct and try again, or contact your network administrator. Logically, if you're doing exactly the same thing (same settings, same password) with two different programs, you should get the same result. So it's likely that there's some discrepancy you've overlooked. To clear your SMTP password in SeaMonkey, look for the site smtp.purdue.edu in the Password Manager and delete it. The next time you try to send mail, you should be prompted for a password. That's a big problem -- there is NO entry for smtp.purdue.edu in the Password Manager. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to change email password on SM?
On 8/7/2013 2:25 PM, PhillipJones wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I have had to change my email password at my server, but now I am not able to access my mail with SM (2.19). I never get a prompt to change the password, just a timeout to the server. How can I change the password? I've deleted the account and created a new one, but I'm never asked for a password. Remove any cookies related to you server and remove any username/password for your Server then reenter everything as it comes up. That's exactly the problem: there is NO entry for a password (or anything else) for my smtp server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to change email password on SM?
I am now able to receive mail, and all my folders are correctly mapped. However, I am still unable to send mail via SM. (I've updated now to 2.20.) I was never prompted to provide a password, so I suspect that might be the problem. I can send mail via Thunderbird, and the settings for the outgoing server are exactly the same as for SeaMonkey. I'm really at a loss. I get an error message from the SMTP server, but it's not helpful: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent using SMTP server smtp.purdue.edu for an unknown reason. Please verify that your SMTP server settings are correct and try again, or contact your network administrator. On 8/7/2013 11:59 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I removed all instances of the old password at purdue.edu, where my server is located. I still cannot send or receive mail via SM. I can access incoming mail via Thunderbird, but I cannot send mail there. In that case, compare the settings on the two programs, you probably have something mistyped in SM: Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | Your_Account_Name | Server Settings Also double-check your SMTP settings on both programs against what your ISP wants you to use: Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | Outgoing Server (SMTP) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to change email password on SM?
I removed all instances of the old password at purdue.edu, where my server is located. I still cannot send or receive mail via SM. I can access incoming mail via Thunderbird, but I cannot send mail there. On 8/7/2013 10:52 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I have had to change my email password at my server, but now I am not able to access my mail with SM (2.19). I never get a prompt to change the password, just a timeout to the server. How can I change the password? I've deleted the account and created a new one, but I'm never asked for a password. Tools / Password Manager / Manage Stored Passwords / / / Remove ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How to change email password on SM?
I have had to change my email password at my server, but now I am not able to access my mail with SM (2.19). I never get a prompt to change the password, just a timeout to the server. How can I change the password? I've deleted the account and created a new one, but I'm never asked for a password. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Quote Colors
On 3/18/2013 1:17 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Mark Berger wrote: Rickles wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I just started using "Quote Colors" again; it makes threaded discussions much more comprehensible, instead of this: Once before I tried it but gave up because it only worked on my computer; it didn't add the coloring into the message itself where it would be visible to others. So now I figure it was never designed to work that way; or am I missing something? If you open your Add-ons mgr window, then click on the Options button for QuoteColors, you'll see the boxes where you can tick to change the text color, or not, as well as the background color, etc. I'm using QC v0.3 on SM 2.16.2 under XP-SP3, and it shows a highlited bar for each indent, a different color for each indent, and the text matches the color of the indent bar. Windows XP SP3 SM 2.16.2 SM disabled my QC v0.3, and it won't reinstall from the website. Is there a way to get it to work? I've got the exact same setup; I reinstalled QC v0.3 this morning from here: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html After reading this thread, I thought I'd try QuoteColors, so I went to the website mentioned, downloaded the xpi and tried to install it. I got an error message about an incompatibilty with SeaMonkey. I checked my Add-on Manager, and I see that in fact **all** of my add-ons are marked incompatible. They all work, nevertheless, just fine. I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this situation, nor do I know what to do. I'm up-to-date with SeaMonkey: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120910144328 Firefox/19.0 and I'm running Windows XP SP3. One of my add-ons is Add-on Compatibility Reporter 1.1, which is "incompatible" as well. Any help would be appreciated. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: suddenly, I cannot print from SM
On 5/28/2012 9:05 PM, Michael Gordon wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I am no longer able to print anything on my printer from SM: not an email, not a web page. It is not my printer, as I can print word documents from Word and pdf files from Foxit. I said "on my printer" because, as I have CutePDF installed, I can print to a pdf file. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 I have created a new profile, which I called "test," and if I start SM using that profile, I can print normally. I don't know what to do next. Could someone please help? From your original profile, when you click the print button you should see a printer dialog box that allows you to select a printer, and maybe some properties. What happens when you select print preview? Michael G That all appears normal. I get a printer dialog box, unchanged; choosing my default printer gave only an error. Print preview worked normally. I've used the past tense, since this morning all works just fine. A mystery! I changed nothing from yesterday to today. Curious. Thanks for your interest, in any case; I'll keep my fingers crossed. Norm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
suddenly, I cannot print from SM
I am no longer able to print anything on my printer from SM: not an email, not a web page. It is not my printer, as I can print word documents from Word and pdf files from Foxit. I said "on my printer" because, as I have CutePDF installed, I can print to a pdf file. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 I have created a new profile, which I called "test," and if I start SM using that profile, I can print normally. I don't know what to do next. Could someone please help? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Sync on SM 2.1 -- What is computer name?
I have added a number of computers to sync with my desktop, but I'm not sure I did it all correctly. On both my desktop and a laptop the "computer name" displayed under Preferences > Sync is the same. Is that right? I'm not sure how sync works -- if I tell my laptop to sync, does it import the settings from my desktop or the other way round? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 Sync
On 6/15/2011 2:59 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: I've just installed SM 2.1, and then I tried to set up Sync, but without success. I get the popup window asking me to enter an email address, password, and I checked the "accept" button, but nothing happens. The "Next" button is grayed out. Could someone please help? Try setting the Server to something else and then back to the default. I filed a bug for this issue: <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664569> HTH Jens Thank you. That worked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 Sync
I've just installed SM 2.1, and then I tried to set up Sync, but without success. I get the popup window asking me to enter an email address, password, and I checked the "accept" button, but nothing happens. The "Next" button is grayed out. Could someone please help? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PrefBar
On 5/8/2011 9:44 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 5/7/11 3:04 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote:
In a recent thread ("Windows 7 crashes") the comment was made that
User-agent will let SM pretend to be "Firefox/3.6" and soon all Comcast
users will have to do that!
My PrefBar only lists some very old browsers: Moz 1.7.13 Lin, NS 4.7
Mac, NS 6.2 Lin, IE 6.0 WinXP, SM 1.0.8 Lin, FF 2.0.0.2 Lin, and Lynx.
I'm running SM 2.0.14, and when I click on "find updates" for PrefBar,
I'm told "No updates were found."
So, how can I get User-agent to spoof more recent versions of browsers?
My UA spoofer "button" (actually, a pull-down list) currently allows
spoofing for Firefox 3.6.17, IE 7, Opera 9.8, and Chrome 9.0.597.107.
It also has an instance of "SeaMonkey 2.0.14, NOT Firefox 3.6.17".
I can export it and send it to you via E-mail. All you would have to do
is "Customize Prefbar" (right-click on the PrefBar toolbar), delete the
existing "button", and import the file I send you. Let me know in this
newsgroup thread if you want this.
Yes, thank you. At the very least, I'll be able to see more
possibilities within context.
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Re: PrefBar
On 5/7/2011 4:19 PM, Rufus wrote:
Norman Fuchs wrote:
In a recent thread ("Windows 7 crashes") the comment was made that
User-agent will let SM pretend to be "Firefox/3.6" and soon all Comcast
users will have to do that!
My PrefBar only lists some very old browsers: Moz 1.7.13 Lin, NS 4.7
Mac, NS 6.2 Lin, IE 6.0 WinXP, SM 1.0.8 Lin, FF 2.0.0.2 Lin, and Lynx.
I'm running SM 2.0.14, and when I click on "find updates" for PrefBar,
I'm told "No updates were found."
So, how can I get User-agent to spoof more recent versions of browsers?
I prefer User Agent Switcher -
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/
It says "Firefox version", but it work with SM. It will allow you to
keep lists of the strings you like to spoof. Nice feature is that it
also always returns to default on exit.
Easy way to get strings without constructing them yourself is to
navigate here using the browser you'd like to spoof and copy it's string -
http://www.useragentstring.com/
Other than that there's a lot of useful info here on constructing UA
strings.
Thanks to all. I believe I'm using PrefBar v 5.1.1, since that what it
says when I go to Tools|Add-ons. In any case, I've managed to follow
Rufus' suggestion and modify the UA's to what I like. I didn't find it
easy, since the javascript syntax is not familiar to me. Seems to work.
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PrefBar
In a recent thread ("Windows 7 crashes") the comment was made that
User-agent will let SM pretend to be "Firefox/3.6" and soon all Comcast
users will have to do that!
My PrefBar only lists some very old browsers: Moz 1.7.13 Lin, NS 4.7
Mac, NS 6.2 Lin, IE 6.0 WinXP, SM 1.0.8 Lin, FF 2.0.0.2 Lin, and Lynx.
I'm running SM 2.0.14, and when I click on "find updates" for PrefBar,
I'm told "No updates were found."
So, how can I get User-agent to spoof more recent versions of browsers?
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Re: Personal toolbar has disappeared
On 9/19/2009 2:52 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: I'd really appreciate some help on this, in SM 1.1.18, WinXP. My Personal Toolbar no longer displays. I've looked at my Bookmarks, and there it is: i.e., in Manage Bookmarks > View, it is designated as Personal Toolbar. I've tried designating another bookmarks folder as Personal Toolbar, then going back to my original, but nothing changed. In addition, my Adblock Plus icon is gone (I don't remember where it was), although the program is installed and working. I doubt there's a connection between these two problems. Sorry -- I discovered (rediscovered?) that F1 toggles that toolbar. I must have pressed F1 accidentally. Funny, I couldn't find any way to do/undo this in the Preferences, or anywhere else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Personal toolbar has disappeared
I'd really appreciate some help on this, in SM 1.1.18, WinXP. My Personal Toolbar no longer displays. I've looked at my Bookmarks, and there it is: i.e., in Manage Bookmarks > View, it is designated as Personal Toolbar. I've tried designating another bookmarks folder as Personal Toolbar, then going back to my original, but nothing changed. In addition, my Adblock Plus icon is gone (I don't remember where it was), although the program is installed and working. I doubt there's a connection between these two problems. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
sync bookmarks?
I'd like to sync my bookmark file on SeaMonkey with bookmarks on other browsers and other computers. I did a little web surfing, and found a few programs that claim to do this (e.g., Bookmark Base) but I'd appreciate a recommendation from someone who has actually has some experience with doing this. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.14 and Junk mail
On 12/22/2008 12:50 PM, NoOp wrote: On 12/17/2008 06:26 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: Since I installed 1.1.14 (I had 1.1.13 previously), all my messages (Mail and Newsgroup messages) have a bold red question mark in the Junk status column. (Well, all but the ones in the Inbox mail folder.) The question marks do not change when I click on them. In the Inbox mail folder, everything works normally. How can I fix this? I assume this is not a new feature of version 1.1.14. Try right-clicking on the message group/folder and select "Rebuild Index". You might also try closing SM and renaming training.dat in your mozilla folder. I just tried both of these things -- no change. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.14 and Junk mail
On 12/22/2008 9:29 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Norman Fuchs wrote: 1. New mail messages do not have a red question mark, although all newsgroup messages do. If I click on the "junk" box for a mail message, the mark changes to "junk" status, and if I click again, it is "not junk", i.e., the red mark is gone forever for that message. Since I have many hundreds (thousands?) of mail messages, this is not a practical method of removing the unwanted marks. 4. I've tried unsubscribing and then subscribing to this newsgroup. The repopulated message list still has the red question marks. junk mail status does not apply to newsgroups. Fine. But then why is there a column displayed for junk status? And how can I eliminate all the red question marks there? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.14 and Junk mail
On 12/17/2008 7:26 PM, Norman Fuchs wrote: Since I installed 1.1.14 (I had 1.1.13 previously), all my messages (Mail and Newsgroup messages) have a bold red question mark in the Junk status column. (Well, all but the ones in the Inbox mail folder.) The question marks do not change when I click on them. In the Inbox mail folder, everything works normally. How can I fix this? I assume this is not a new feature of version 1.1.14. I'm appealing for help, again. A few more details: 1. New mail messages do not have a red question mark, although all newsgroup messages do. If I click on the "junk" box for a mail message, the mark changes to "junk" status, and if I click again, it is "not junk", i.e., the red mark is gone forever for that message. Since I have many hundreds (thousands?) of mail messages, this is not a practical method of removing the unwanted marks. 2. This does not work for newsgroup messages: I cannot change their "junk" status at all. 3. I've uninstalled SM 1.1.14 and then re-installed it, but to no avail. I've also tried deleting some .msf files, then restarting SM so they are regenerated; no effect. 4. I've tried unsubscribing and then subscribing to this newsgroup. The repopulated message list still has the red question marks. Please, anyone, any suggestions? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 1.1.14 and Junk mail
Since I installed 1.1.14 (I had 1.1.13 previously), all my messages (Mail and Newsgroup messages) have a bold red question mark in the Junk status column. (Well, all but the ones in the Inbox mail folder.) The question marks do not change when I click on them. In the Inbox mail folder, everything works normally. How can I fix this? I assume this is not a new feature of version 1.1.14. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
