Re: Instability in SM2.0
John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: John a écrit : I am wondering if anyone else has seen any instability in SM2.0? I use Giganews as a news reader and almost every time I attempt to download the Headers SM crashes. Maybe it is my system but, perhaps not. Downloading headers does not crash Thunderbird. so I guess I'll either have to go back to SM 1.1.18 or stick with Firefox/Thunderbird. As a news reader, I only use SM Mail, but I've seen nothing of that sort. S. He obvilusly meant that he uses Giganew as a new *server*, not news reader. Since he asks here, I assume he means that SM is his news reader. No problem with downloading headers from any of the 8 news servers I use. Lee it was only from Giganews that there was a problem. Try using the free news server news.eternal-september.org. I've had no problems getting feeds from them with 2.0. -- -------- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.
Hi. This has gotten to the point I'm going to have to abandon SM 2.x soon. I never saw this in any 1.x version. I'm on 32-bit Windows Vista SP2 running on an HP notebook with the AMD Turion dual-core chip, 3 MB RAM. After about 8 hours of use, suddenly the browser stops working in a curious way - clicking on a bookmark or an embedded URL silently presents a blank page, no complaints, just no pages will display. Email continues to work, until I close all Seamonkey instances while trying to fix the problem. What happens then is Seamonkey pops up a box that complains it is already running, and to close that Seamonkey before trying to run. But there are no visible instances of Seamonkey running. Going to the Task Manager, I see an instance of Seamonkey IS running. So I kill it in Task Manager. Then I kill it again. Then I kill it again ... etc. etc. The Seamonkey process is unkillable. I have to at this point re-boot before the browser starts working again. What can I do to help get this fixed? There is no crash report because Seamonkey is unaware it's munged and unreachable. Help! -- -------- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.
P.N. wrote: Hello Pat, I've installed SM 2.0.2 on the laptop of my daughter (running vista) - works without problems. However, the site You've used might contain some suspicious IE-only code or even VBScript, so please add some info here about the URLs to look at for testing or use "Help->Report Broke Web Site...". Kind regards P. Pat Welch wrote: Hi. This has gotten to the point I'm going to have to abandon SM 2.x soon. I never saw this in any 1.x version. I'm on 32-bit Windows Vista SP2 running on an HP notebook with the AMD Turion dual-core chip, 3 MB RAM. After about 8 hours of use, suddenly the browser stops working in a curious way - clicking on a bookmark or an embedded URL silently presents a blank page, no complaints, just no pages will display. Email continues to work, until I close all Seamonkey instances while trying to fix the problem. What happens then is Seamonkey pops up a box that complains it is already running, and to close that Seamonkey before trying to run. But there are no visible instances of Seamonkey running. Going to the Task Manager, I see an instance of Seamonkey IS running. So I kill it in Task Manager. Then I kill it again. Then I kill it again ... etc. etc. The Seamonkey process is unkillable. I have to at this point re-boot before the browser starts working again. What can I do to help get this fixed? There is no crash report because Seamonkey is unaware it's munged and unreachable. Help! It's NOT a URL, because it happens on web sites I visit all the time, and not the same ones either. As I said - it's after Seamonkey has been up and online for about 8 hours or so. Memory leak anyone? :) And whats up with the totally UNkillable 'ghost' copy of Seamonkey? Task Manager can not kill it no matter how many times I try, and there are no 'visible' instances of SM open on the desktop. The unkillable copy of SM is a deal breaker for me - I don't care WHAT caused the unkillable copy - the release copy of SM should never get in that state. Having to re-boot because of a misbehaving application is so 1990's ... -- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.
P.N. wrote: Hello Pat, I've got some problems with different software on Vista (not with SM, though), and cannot see complaints from other Vista users. So I guess, Your problems will more likely have sth. to do with Your Vista config than with SeaMonkey. But You'll have to give more information about Your problems, so somebody might be able to help You :-( Kind regards P. Pat Welch wrote: [snip] Well, P., to summarize the problem: 1) The Seamonkey browser stops working after running around 8 hours 2) It stops on random sites, including sites that I visit all the time 3) It does not stop at the same site(s) 4) Closing all visible Seamonkey Windows results in a *completely* unkillable hidden Seamonkey process that prevents re-launching SeaMonkey (Complaining Seamonkey is already running) 5) Seamonkey apparently thinks it has NOT crashed and therefore can NOT generate a crash report ... 6) New info - I can run the IE 8 browser with no problems while Seamonkey has it's head buried in the sand, suggesting nothing is wrong with my ISP (Comcast) or my internal network or my firewall/router or my AV (Grisoft). All facts I brought out in my 1st Email and repeated in the 2nd Email - perhaps someone with a better knowledge of the Vista Seamonkey internals can suggest how to force an error report or some other action I can take to obtain the magical "more information" you seek. -- -------- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.
MintyJewel wrote: On Feb 5, 5:34 pm, Pat Welch wrote: Hi. This has gotten to the point I'm going to have to abandon SM 2.x soon. I never saw this in any 1.x version. I'm on 32-bit Windows Vista SP2 running on an HP notebook with the AMD Turion dual-core chip, 3 MB RAM. After about 8 hours of use, suddenly the browser stops working in a curious way - clicking on a bookmark or an embedded URL silently presents a blank page, no complaints, just no pages will display. Email continues to work, until I close all Seamonkey instances while trying to fix the problem. What happens then is Seamonkey pops up a box that complains it is already running, and to close that Seamonkey before trying to run. But there are no visible instances of Seamonkey running. Going to the Task Manager, I see an instance of Seamonkey IS running. So I kill it in Task Manager. Then I kill it again. Then I kill it again ... etc. etc. The Seamonkey process is unkillable. I have to at this point re-boot before the browser starts working again. What can I do to help get this fixed? There is no crash report because Seamonkey is unaware it's munged and unreachable. Help! -- -------- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com Pat, Download "System Exployer": http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx You CAN kill the unkillable. You may also verify files, track their paths, and also it's used for stacking logs and debugging. It's a wonderful little program I've used for a few years now. oh and there's no cost. Umm, no joy. Unkillable Seamonkey is still unkillable. The sysinternals are just for the most part front-ends to primitives - and the kill functions call the same kill function that the Task Manager does. So the only way to get back the browser is to re-boot. How very 1995 of the developers. BTW, I'm on 2.0.3 - same problem, the browser dies silently, and if you end out of all the instances of Seamonkey you are left with an absolutely un-killable version of Seamonkey still in the process list. -- -------- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.
JAS wrote: Pat Welch wrote: MintyJewel wrote: On Feb 5, 5:34 pm, Pat Welch wrote: Hi. This has gotten to the point I'm going to have to abandon SM 2.x soon. I never saw this in any 1.x version. I'm on 32-bit Windows Vista SP2 running on an HP notebook with the AMD Turion dual-core chip, 3 MB RAM. After about 8 hours of use, suddenly the browser stops working in a curious way - clicking on a bookmark or an embedded URL silently presents a blank page, no complaints, just no pages will display. Email continues to work, until I close all Seamonkey instances while trying to fix the problem. What happens then is Seamonkey pops up a box that complains it is already running, and to close that Seamonkey before trying to run. But there are no visible instances of Seamonkey running. Going to the Task Manager, I see an instance of Seamonkey IS running. So I kill it in Task Manager. Then I kill it again. Then I kill it again ... etc. etc. The Seamonkey process is unkillable. I have to at this point re-boot before the browser starts working again. What can I do to help get this fixed? There is no crash report because Seamonkey is unaware it's munged and unreachable. Help! -- -------- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com Pat, Download "System Exployer": http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx You CAN kill the unkillable. You may also verify files, track their paths, and also it's used for stacking logs and debugging. It's a wonderful little program I've used for a few years now. oh and there's no cost. Umm, no joy. Unkillable Seamonkey is still unkillable. The sysinternals are just for the most part front-ends to primitives - and the kill functions call the same kill function that the Task Manager does. So the only way to get back the browser is to re-boot. How very 1995 of the developers. BTW, I'm on 2.0.3 - same problem, the browser dies silently, and if you end out of all the instances of Seamonkey you are left with an absolutely un-killable version of Seamonkey still in the process list. I also am running SM 2.0.3 and have no problem going into the task manager an killing Seamonkey if I desire, but I have ended out of all the instances of Seamonkey and it is GONE. I have very few problems with SM 2.0.3 and like it very much. Perhaps an extension? I'm on Vista, and I think you are running XP from your header. Different ballpark as it were. I think I'll give the latest Opera a look, I'm tired of re-booting. -- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.0 - Forwarding Email does not pick up my Sig, the Sig works as expected in Compose
And neither does straight compose in this NG Compose works and the Sig appears as usual in my regular Email account. Huh? One of the Sigs in question is a .html file combining a logo with text. The one I use for NG's like this is just a .txt file - so the problems seems to in how file based sigs are picked up. Updated from 1.1.9. Has anyone else noticed this? Any clues? -Pat ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 - Forwarding Email does not pick up my Sig, the Sig works as expected in Compose
Jens Hatlak wrote: Pat Welch wrote: And neither does straight compose in this NG Compose works and the Sig appears as usual in my regular Email account. Huh? Go into account settings, Composition & Addressing, and check "Include signature for forwards". HTH Jens Huh - where did that setting come from? But big thanks! - that fixed the problem with all BUT this NG. WTF?? Checking that box fixed the no sig in all cases except for this NG. All settings appear the same as my other Email and NG accounts. Perhaps SM is prejudged against NG's with Mozilla in the name? :) -Pat ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 - Forwarding Email does not pick up my Sig, the Sig works as expected in Compose
Jens Hatlak wrote: Pat Welch wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Pat Welch wrote: And neither does straight compose in this NG Compose works and the Sig appears as usual in my regular Email account. Huh? Go into account settings, Composition & Addressing, and check "Include signature for forwards". Huh - where did that setting come from? It's new in SM 2. But big thanks! - that fixed the problem with all BUT this NG. WTF?? Checking that box fixed the no sig in all cases except for this NG. All settings appear the same as my other Email and NG accounts. You understood that this is a per-account setting, no? ;-) HTH Jens Umm, yep. I've even gone through a reboot after just updating my Ad-Aware, double checked all accounts (and especially this one) and in this reply there is no sig other than my manually typed in one. The sig here is a .txt file, but my other NG's are also the same .txt file and the sig appears when posting the other Ng's. Very weird. I'm on Vista 32 bit (sorry should have mentioned previously) -Pat ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox?
Hi. I have a lot of folders under the main Inboxes that I use to save copies of Email in specific categories. Under SM 1.19 it when I clicked on the Message menu after displaying the message and selected Copy to or Move to, ALL the available folders were displayed. Now, ONLY the new "Recent" drop box will appear, not giving me access to all folders, and the folders there do not ID the main folders they are from (I have, for example, 5 Info folders under 5 email accounts). Now, if I back out of the displayed message, and right click on the Email summary in the main pane, I get the old full folder access back! Sounds like a bug. -Pat in this NG> ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox?
Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Pat Welch wrote: Hi. I have a lot of folders under the main Inboxes that I use to save copies of Email in specific categories. Under SM 1.19 it when I clicked on the Message menu after displaying the message and selected Copy to or Move to, ALL the available folders were displayed. Now, ONLY the new "Recent" drop box will appear, not giving me access to all folders, and the folders there do not ID the main folders they are from (I have, for example, 5 Info folders under 5 email accounts). Now, if I back out of the displayed message, and right click on the Email summary in the main pane, I get the old full folder access back! Sounds like a bug. -Pat Well the proper sig delimiter should be a dash dash space. Sig should work, note that it is on an account by account basis. You must set up the sig for each account. If you use the same sig on multiple accounts, save it to a text file, and link to it in Account settings. I'll set a sig to this reply, to test. Lee Sig attached as expected, and should be stripped in this reply. Lee See the thread titled "2.0 - Forwarding Email does not pick up my Sig, the Sig works as expected in Compose" for more detail on the problem. Basically, I use files for my sigs, and specifically a .txt file for NG's like this, and in fact the SAME sig file for this and my main NG server. The sig append works on the main NG, but not on this one. The prefs and settings are *exactly* the same for the two NG's. - -Pat ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox?
chicagofan wrote: Pat Welch wrote: Hi. I have a lot of folders under the main Inboxes that I use to save copies of Email in specific categories. Under SM 1.19 it when I clicked on the Message menu after displaying the message and selected Copy to or Move to, ALL the available folders were displayed. Now, ONLY the new "Recent" drop box will appear, not giving me access to all folders, and the folders there do not ID the main folders they are from (I have, for example, 5 Info folders under 5 email accounts). Now, if I back out of the displayed message, and right click on the Email summary in the main pane, I get the old full folder access back! Sounds like a bug. -Pat If you close the message, you will get the full choice of folders in your menu selection, if I understand what you are wanting. Have no idea what's wrong with your sig line here. :) bj Thanks, but I was complaining exactly that - you have to close the message in order to see the full list. That behavior sucks and was not how it worked under 1.19. I often leave an Email open while I'm working on the problem mentioned in the Email (I'm a Unix server support guru), and having to close it to copy it into one of my support queues is a major PITA. I expanded on the Sig problem in another reply in this thread. -Pat ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SIG PROBLEM. WAS: What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any
James wrote: Pat, I noticed that in your sig [at least on my PC] you have one dash and then on the line below you have another dash followed by your name. Is that what you intended? James . . Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:57:45 -0800 From: Pat Welch To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: What happened to the ability to copy/move emails to any mailbox? Message-ID: <7iqdnugmhadlrmzxnz2dnuvz_h-dn...@mozilla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [...] See the thread titled "2.0 - Forwarding Email does not pick up my Sig, the Sig works as expected in Compose" for more detail on the problem. Basically, I use files for my sigs, and specifically a .txt file for NG's like this, and in fact the SAME sig file for this and my main NG server. The sig append works on the main NG, but not on this one. The prefs and settings are*exactly* the same for the two NG's. - -Pat No - was my two finger typing hitting the Return prematurely. Very weird. Almost like SM has code that does 'stuff' if this NG is detected, left over from testing sigs? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Signature not on forwarded mail
Leonidas Jones wrote: William Morrison wrote: Here's something I just noticed, when I compose new mail or reply to some my signature gets added to the end of the mail like it should but if I try to forward something the signature doesn't get added. Why? I don't really know, but you are correct, the sig is not attached in either forward mode, as attachment or inline. You could take a look through Bugzilla to see if there is an outstanding bug on this. Lee I just went through this - there's a new setting to attach or not sigs on forwards. It's in Mail/News account settings - composition and addressing. Now I just have the very weird problem that I can't get a sig in ONLY this NG, works normally in all my other mail/Ng's. -Pat ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Form Management
me2 wrote: I see that but I'm NOT seeing any form filling, i.e., no offers to fill any forms so far - is this function "on" automatically or do I need to do something to invoke it? BTW, who decided the old form manger wasn't needed/used/wanted? sigh... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:40:51 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: me2 wrote: On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:49:14 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote: Download and install the Forms History Manager extension I did - when a form is in my browser nothing happens- enable form and search history is selected in history, a right click reveals form history and there are items listed BUT so far when I'm presented a form and/or start typing in a form, nothing happens. Am I doing it wrong? me2 wrote: So for the new form "whateverthehellitiscalled" hasn't reacted/show up when presented with a "form" in the browser- is there a spell to invoke? I've never tried to go backwards after a SM update- is there going to be a problem with going back to 1.1.8 from 2.0? Is there a version of mozilla that retains the form manger? This is really a disappointment, I've used Netscape/seamonkey forever but form manger is a required application here. when you open forms history Manager highlight the row in which the item you want to change then double click a window pops up with the info. you can edit from there. I dunno who decided to kick the old manager to the curb, but it IS a major downgrade from how it worked before. Even when I had a *new* form to fill out under 1.18, it made some reasonable guesses and offered up all the matches it thought were appropriate, and I just unchecked the lines that were not needed in the new form or changed via dropdown the data for a specific line. Having to click on each line in a large form REALLY REALLY sucks in SM2. -- ---- Pat Welch, UBB Computer Services, a WCS Affiliate SCO Authorized Partner Microlite BackupEdge Certified Reseller Unix/Linux/Windows/Hardware Sales/Support (209) 745-1401 Cell: (209) 251-9120 E-mail: pat...@inreach.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
