Search for Mentors

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hello developers,

we have some volunteers who want to work on bugs reported in Bugzilla 
and need some initial help. It would be great if someone with required 
skills could help.


Best regards

Rainer

P.S.: Replies, discussion or similar please only at 
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey (dev-apps-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org)

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Re: Lots of huge stuff on Apple's web pages? Found its cause...

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 17.09.2015 05:10, Ant wrote:

Minimum font size


Hello,

good shot!

I created "Bug 1205534 - default property font.minimum-size.x-western=10 
causes much too big font size on particular web page" 



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38b1 - add-on version numbers no longer shown in add-On-Manager

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 09.09.2015 01:13, NoOp wrote:

Is this a bug or the way the new version will appear from now on?


Hello,

please see "Bug 1202990 - Add-on Manager needs special add-on to show 
add-on-versions"



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi Edmund,

Bug 1177045 - (SM235-RELNOTE) Create/Update 2.35 Release Notes
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177045
still is not assigned, and (may be intendedly). Can we be sure that 
someone will take care?


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Re: Can't print from the compose window - Known bug

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Bill Spikowski schrieb:

The past several days I've lost the ability to print an email I'm
writing from the Compose window.


Hi,

as I found in the source of your e-mail you use
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

Please mention such details in your questions!

Your problem probably is Bug 1142997 - Cannot Print from Composer and 
other editor elements 

 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1142997

Best Regards

Rainer Bielefeld
(SeaMonkey QA volunteer)
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SeaMonkey 2.35 Language packs

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hello,

for all who want to use something very close to a localized SeaMonkey 
2.35: 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/08/15/seamonkey-2-35-language-packs/


@Adrian:
Thank you for unearthing the buried alive language packs :-)

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Re: Windows 10 and SM crashes

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Is anyone else seeing frequent crashes of SeaMonkey on Windows 10 Home?


Hello,

it would be great if we could get quick reviews / confirmations for 
unconfirmed WIN10 bugs 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamednamedcmd=crashwin10list_id=12469073


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Re: Windows 10 and SM crashes - not only SM affected

[Rainer Bielefeld]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=crashwin10sharer_id=41036list_id=12464333
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Re: Windows 10 and SM crashes

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Is anyone else seeing frequent crashes of SeaMonkey on Windows 10 Home?


Bug 1192547 - Crash after i long time browse on Facebook and close 
SeaMonkey

 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1192547

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Re: What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)

[Rainer Bielefeld]

... that sender uses an invalid sender mail address


Hi,

I am afraid it might be some more complicated. I also see such 
dev-apps-seamonkey-bounces+rainerbielefeld_nurng=bielefeldundbuss...@lists.mozilla.org, 
even in the confirmation mail that I am a subscriber for that list. I 
will ask mailmanager 


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What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Keith Whaley schrieb:

the words Sender : support-seamonkey 
support-seamonkey-bounces+keith_w=dslextreme@lists.mozilla.org


Hi Keith Whaley,

please do not hijack other threads for your questons.

Concerning your question: I think reason for such a bounces-address is 
that sender uses an invalid sender mail address in his account settings 
for that news server.


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Re: Password Manager

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi,

may I ask your to read and consider 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Bug_writing_guidelines? 
All those hints also are relevant for support requests here.


has stopped working is too meaningless, and it's a question of 
courtesy not to burden other helping volunteers research in your mail 
header to find out that you use something like Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 
8.1 or Windows Server 2012 R2.


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Re: Tests: [Bug 936875]

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Ant schrieb:

Can't use the test newsgroups in this news.mozilla.org server? ;)


Of couse I can.

But if you want to reproduce bug-observations it's always a good idea to 
copy reporter's test conditiona as exactly as possible.


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Test: [Bug 936875] Crosspost fails with error message Unable to save your message as draft, verify that your Mail Newsgroups account settings are correct

[Rainer Bielefeld]

From
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26

Build identifier: 20140428215944

2x NG

both subscribed

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Test2: [Bug 936875] Crosspost fails with error message Unable to save your message as draft, verify that your Mail Newsgroups account settings are correct

[Rainer Bielefeld]

From
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26

Build identifier: 20140428215944
NG + Followup-to

both subscribed
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Test3: [Bug 936875] Crosspost fails with error message Unable to save your message as draft, verify that your Mail Newsgroups account settings are correct

[Rainer Bielefeld]

From
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26

Build identifier: 20140428215944

2x NG

mozilla.general unsubscribed while editing message
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Test4: [Bug 936875] Crosspost fails with error message Unable to save your message as draft, verify that your Mail Newsgroups account settings are correct

[Rainer Bielefeld]

From
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26

Build identifier: 20140428215944

2x NG

mozilla.general unsubscribed BEFORE editing message
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Test10: [Bug 936875] Crosspost fails with error message Unable to save your message as draft, verify that your Mail Newsgroups account settings are correct

[Rainer Bielefeld]

From
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39a1

Build-Identifikator: 20150728011950

2x NG

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Tests: [Bug 936875]

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hello all,

tests are done, thank you for your patience.

Best regards

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SeaMonkey Add-on compatibility

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi all,

I am planning to start an attempt to get some user experience for add-on 
compatibility with SeaMonkey 2.35, and if it works, with later versions.


Details concerning the plan: 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/Tasks_%26_Projects/Add-on_compatibility


Thoughts, Ideas, concerns?

*Discussion* please at mozilla.support.seamonkey *or* 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:SeaMonkey/Tasks_%26_Projects/Add-on_compatibility


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OT: Followup and parallel posting does not work (Was: Re: SeaMonkey Add-on compatibility)

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi all,

I did several attempts to send a posting to news.mozilla.org
Newsgroup: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Newsgroup: mozilla.addons.user-experience
Newsgroup: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
Seamonkey always showed a sent succesfully and message became sent in 
Local Folders - Sent, but no message appeared in the NG


I did 1 attempt (like this one) to send a posting to
Newsgroup: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Followup-To: mozilla.addons.user-experience
Followup-To: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
Seamonkey  showed a sent succesfully and message became sent in Local 
Folders - Sent, but no message appeared in the followup-NG


I did 1 attempt to send a posting to News.Individual.DE
Newsgroup: alt.de.test
Followup-To: alt.fr.test
Seamonkey showed a sent succesfully and message became sent in Local 
Folders - Sent, but no message appeared in the followup-NG


Now here I clicked Reply All Icon to the posting  SeaMonkey Add-on 
compatibility, but in the aswer message  mozilla.support.seamonkey 
was missing, only Followup-To-Newsgroups appeared in address fields.


Do I have a knowledge gap and my expectation that parrallel posting and 
followup should be possible is wrong?
Do we have a remaining problem from Bug 1151448 - Cross-posts won't 
send because Newsgroups: groups are separated with comma+space, not just 
comma (I left a comment there in 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1151448#c19?


Can someone explain what is happening here?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hello,

I think Adrian's question was whether you observe the fist launch 
crash if you do the launch in safe mode (with disabled add-ons).

You can do that from cmd with seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

I am a little worried:

your Crash report in Bug 1057581 - old profile crashes on startup [@ 
nsRDFPropertyTestNode::FilterInstantiations]  
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1057581 (what, btw. still 
is Platform: x86 Linux) tells that your crash was with SeaMonkey 
2.32.1 Build ID 20150204202218 what I know to be a indeed 2.23.1


Can you please explain?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hello,

I wonder whether the passwords lost problem might be something 
completely different. In query updatepasswordloss 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=updatepasswordlosssharer_id=41036 
Bug 1062297 - All saved passwords gone after update 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062297 might cover that 
problem.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

[Rainer Bielefeld]

David E. Ross schrieb:


I updated from 2.26.1 to this 2.35.
I saw that bug #1057581 has not yet been fixed.  Each of my four
profiles resulted in a crash on the first time it was selected.  Then,
no crashes.


Hello,

thank you for the hint, I added a warning in the SeaMonkey Blog.

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Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi Ed,

you find some thoughts here 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/07/08/how-dead-is-seamoneky/


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Re: SeaMonkey Win32 nightlies - Worng URL

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Mason83 schrieb:

There are some nightly builds here:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/nightly


Hi,

no, there you only find Error 404.

I currently (until the will come every day, again) try to annonce any 
new Windows nightly

Aurora: https://seamonkeyde.wordpress.com/category/new-aurora-build/
Trunk: https://seamonkeyde.wordpress.com/category/new-beta-build/
Beta: https://seamonkeyde.wordpress.com/category/new-trunk-build/

You can subscribe Feeds for those pages so that you get information 
always when a new build is available. But that announcements might have 
some hours delay because I manually scan those download pages for 
changes (and with a FF-Add-On):

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-win32/
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/?C=M;O=A


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Re: SeaMonkey Win32 nightlies

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi,

My research for Bug 1179680 Lost ability to add new mail/news accounts 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179680 completely 
destroyed my account settings ...


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Re: Does sync-ing work in SeaMonkey?

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Adrian Kalla schrieb:


That's not the correct answer.



But currently future of Sync is unknown, see
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Own_Sync#ToDos
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-06-23#2.Next
and similar,
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-04-14#Feature_List.2C_Planning

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Re: 64-bit performance looks nice! - Blog Post?

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] schrieb:

So for fun I tested the 32 and 64-bit builds



Hello,

it would be great if could could publish some more detailed information 
in the blog https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/. If you are willing to 
do that I could grant some WORDPRESS editor permissions for your draft 
and give some hints what I think what might be interesting for other users.


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Re: 64-bit performance looks nice! - Performance improvement not confirmed

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] schrieb:

So for fun I tested the 32 and 64-bit builds of the contrib of 2.35
and was very surprised at the performance bump.



Hi,

my experience ist different, no performance improvement at all on
64 bit AMD Phenom II X4 955 Processor 3.2 GHz, 4GB RAM,
Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 430, Monitor HANNS-G HL225DBB 1920 x 1080
WIN7 64 bit

I simply tested how long it takes to open 41 TABs simultaneously, 
details here

https://seamonkeyde.wordpress.com/2015/06/20/allererste-erfahrungen-seamonkey-64-bit-windows-7/
 (in German Language).

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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds - Version Number 2.35

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi,

I am a little worried concerning the version numbers if the builds. I 
see User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35

Build 20150616034436

Shouldn't that be a 2.35a0 or similar instead of 2.35, what looks so ready

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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Adrian Kalla schrieb:

I've posted more unofficial builds here:


Hello,

thanks a lot, I am already using a 64bit German 2.35 Seamonkey.

Can you please leave some comments here or in the blog how to use the 
.mar files?


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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds - 64bit?

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi,

I saw a new build and published

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/06/16/first-win32-seamonkey-2-35-nightly-build-available/.

That's really 64 Bit only?

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Re: Plugin Check

[Rainer Bielefeld]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com schrieb:


Plugin check now works for SeaMonkey.


Hi,

Confirmed, now works with EN-US SeaMonkey 2.33.1 (German Language pack) 
 Gecko/20100101 Build 20150321194901 (Default Theme) on German WIN7 64bit.


Thanks a lot!

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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ?

[Rainer Bielefeld]

JAS schrieb:


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/show-password/ through
the http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/  and it works fine. You can
toggle it on and off. Works fine for me.



Hi,
can you please tell your Operating System, SeaMonkey version and 
Localization, so that I can add oyur result to 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/AddonCompat?


Best regards


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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ? - Add-on Show Password 1.7 will do the job

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Lemon Juice schrieb:

I don't think the operating system


Hi,

and the SM converted add-on works much better than the original for FF 
37. General FF problem or FF37 related?
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/show-password/reviews/ 
(my comment currently is in review)



BTW, isn't that a mistake on the wiki page


Yes, thank you for your attetion, I corrected that.
BTW, it's a Wiki 

Did you already think about changing add-on version or whatever else in 
Converter? For use ratings and expecially after a fix for [Bug 1149016] 
New: Add-on Compatibility Reporter 2.0.5 does not work with SeaMonkey 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1149016 it will be 
important to know whether it's the normal add-on version or a converted 
one. For my private work I add a tailing .SM to the  add-on version in 
install.rdf for converted add-ons, what will be visible in add-on-manager.


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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ?

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Philip Chee schrieb:

The more people doing this, the easier it is for Rainer.


Hi all,

yes, some help would be great.

To be honest, keeping such lists up to date is the most boring job of 
all ones I can imagine how to contribute to SeaMonkey  ;-)

So I do not want to invest too much time there.

@JAS: info is in a comment, only visible in Edit Mode!

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Re: SeaMonkey add-on-compatibility - Adblock Plus Pop-up Addon 0.9.2 + Adblock Plus 2.6.9

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Lemon Juice schrieb:

There is an error in the wiki


Hallo,

thank you for the hint, I corrected.

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Re: SeaMonkey add-on-compatibility - Controle de Scripts 1.0.3 - CS Lite Mod 1.4.9 - RefControl 0.8.17 - Flashblock 1.5.19a - Force Content-Type 1.2.2 - Long URL Please Mod 0.5.1 - MR Tech Toolkit 6.0

[Rainer Bielefeld]

EE schrieb:


I can add a few more observations to the lists.


Hi,

thank you for info, I will add it soon.

Can you please add info concerning your test environemnt (OS, SM 
version, UI language) and whether all these add-ons have been installed 
for your latest SM? I remember that I already had the experience that an 
addon installed some SM versions worked until I tried to install the 
same addon version for the latest version.


Best regards


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SeaMonkey add-on-compatibility

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi all,

it would be great if some of you could share their experience with 
add-on compatibility. It would be a horrible work for a single person to 
leave comments on https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/AddonCompat 
SeaMonkey/AddonCompat for all the liste add-ons (and there might exist 
hundreds or thousands not listet there). But if lots of users only leave 
1 comment / each that page might become a useful data base, soon.


The core questions are:
a) Is the original add-on (download from AMO) compatible?
b) Is the compatibility rating on AMO page correct (sometimes
   you will find a warning not available for SM 2.33.1, but
   Installed Addon will work fine
c) If not compatible, what minor or serious problems have
   been observed with what test environment?
d) If original add-on is not compatible, does converted Version
   (see https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/AddonCompat work or
   what minor or serious problems have
   been observed with what test environment?
e) Is a compatible (or alternative) add-on available, may be form other 
source than AMO?


You can easily add your observations on the wiki page (it's not a 
problem to subscribe and to get an account).
Or if you do not want to edit the page, you can add a posting here in 
the thread as I will do for an add-on in few minutes here.


Come on, anybody here who will start with a statement concerning 
Automatic Save Folder 1.0.4  
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/automatic-save-folder/?


Thank you in advance and best regards

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Re: SeaMonkey add-on-compatibility - Ghostery 5.4.3

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hello,

here an example for shared experience (please open a new sub thread for 
ever add-on and add the add-on name to Summary):




Ghostery 5.4.3 _converted_version_
works fine with EN-US Seamonkey 2.33.1 (German Language pack) 
Gecko/20100101 Build 20150321194901 (Default Theme) on German WIN7 64bit
Very tricky, but seldom problem reported in bug 1154608 Websites not 
loaded when Ghostery-add-on and private window active  
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1154608




(this is already integrated into wiki page SeaMonkey/AddonCompat)

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Re: Question about Composer

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:


http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/tmp/convert/54e174a18d7be6.16255575/dest/wordcountplus-1.2.3.xpi


Hi,

unfortunately the link produces a message Page Not Found. The file you 
were trying to download is no longer available. Probably your session 
has expired. Converted add-ons are deleted after 15 minutes. Please go 
to home page and do the conversion again.

for me.

Best regards

Rainer Bielefeld
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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

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Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192


I now finished that problem finally by deleting and recreating my news 
accounts, all other recommended fixes did not work for me.


Thank you and best regards

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Re: newsgrops problem with seamonkey 2.0

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Phillip Jones schrieb:


I experienced the same thing on my Mac. I end up in this position after
I manually removing the _msf_ files to newsgroups to clean up some
strange problems (Massages being marked as read before I could get to
read them and so on.). Its a bug once this is set it should not change
for any reason unless you do so yourself



Hi,

neither deleting News.CIS.DFN.DE.msf for the group (no new one has 
been created after new Seamonkey start) neither deleting the 
name.of.newsgroup.msf files (new ones have been created after new 
Seamonkey start)healed my problem.


Rainer
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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192
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Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528192


Hi,

please excuse me for my test posting. After I upgraded to 2.0 I was no 
longer able to post in the newsgroups, after I deleted my 
news.mozilla.org account and recreated it, everything works fine 
here (but my other news.individual.de account still does not work, 
it seems that I have to recreate it, too.


CU

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can no longer post in newsgroups

[Rainer Bielefeld]

with seamonkey 2
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