Re: Seamomkey 2.40 crashes
On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:08:02 -0700 (PDT), Philpots <philp...@gmail.com> wrote: >I am using Seamonkey 2.40 on Linux Mint 17.3 > >I am starting it from the terminal so I can see if it posted any info on why >it crashes. > >Here is what's displayed: >-- >(seamonkey:31450): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property >GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised > >(seamonkey:31450): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property >GnomeProgram::show-crash-dialog after class was initialised > >(seamonkey:31450): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property >GnomeProgram::display after class was initialised > >(seamonkey:31450): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property >GnomeProgram::default-icon after class was initialised > >- >It crashes and sometimes my computer logs off the session and returns to the >log in screen. > >I am working with composing web pages with lot's of Jpeg's and as I scroll >down to insert another one that's when it crashes. > > >My computer was given to me so I don't have any real knowledge of Mint or >Lunix. I have tried other WYSIWYG web page editors and this is the one that I >can relate to. Are you able to update to one the builds from here?: https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-linux64/ - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU
On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote: >On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 6:40:24 AM UTC-7, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: >> On Wed, 4 May 2016 13:10:36 -0700 (PDT), ...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >> >SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit) >> >Windows 7 32-bit >> >At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] >> >Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager) >> > >> >Video card (info via Speccy program): >> >ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570 >> >ManufacturerATI >> >Model AMD Radeon HD 6570 >> >GPU Turks >> >Device ID 1002-6759 >> >Subvendor Diamond (1092) >> >Current Performance Level Level 0 >> >Voltage 0.900 V >> >Die Size118 mm² >> >Release DateApr 19, 2011 >> >DirectX Support 11.0 >> >DirectX Shader Model5.0 >> >OpenGL Support 4.2 >> >GPU Clock 650.0 MHz >> >Temperature 52 °C >> >Core Voltage1.050 V >> >Bios Core Clock 100.00 >> >Bios Mem Clock 150.00 >> >Driver version 8.950.0.0 >> >BIOS Version113-930-930 >> >ROPs32 >> >Shaders 480 unified >> >Memory Type DDR3 >> >Memory 2048 MB >> >Pixel Fillrate 20.8 GPixels/s >> >Bandwidth 21.3 GB/s >> > >> >Thanks for prompt response. >> > >> >--SLMorris >> >> Since you're on a 32-bit system and some others have explained it's >> memory limits, you might be experiencing memory pressure issues. >> Meaning, you're hitting a memory ceiling and the system is starved for >> resources with your tabs open. These web sites might have intensive >> images and other resource gobbling code. If you have anything else >> running on your system while Firefox is running, it too will eat up >> memory only making the problem worse. Not much you can do. >> >> You have a 4GB system with a 2GB video card. That 4GB of system RAM >> works out to be about 3.1GB usable to the *whole* system. It's a >> 32-bit OS limitation. That 2GB video card eats up 2GB of RAM >> automatically for address space leaving you with 1.1GB of free RAM. If >> anything else is using memory, you're going to run out of free RAM >> quickly. Thus, experience CPU churn and hard disk swapping virtual >> RAM. >> >> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] > >@The Chicago Wolf: > >If the upper limit on a 32-bit system is 4GB, why are you saying that it's >really 3.1 GB? Do you mean that if I switch out to 64-bit Win7, I will get the >full 4GB? It's possible it is reporting usable RAM at 3.5GB as you may not have many components in your system occupying address space. I'm not saying Speccy is wrong, but in most cases a 32-bit system with 4GB of RAM will have 3.1GB usable. With a 64-bit system, usable RAM on a 4GB system would be nearly the full 4GB. On my lowly Latitude E6500 (released in 2008!) with 4GB RAM: Physical Memory Memory Usage65 % Total Physical 3.93 GB Available Physical 1.36 GB Total Virtual 7.85 GB Available Virtual 4.82 GB As you can see, I'm seeing 3.93GB of the 4096 that 4GB of RAM totals. >Right this second, Speccy (sysinfo untility) reports: > >Physical Memory > Memory Usage53 % > Total Physical 3.50 GB > Available Physical 1.62 GB > Total Virtual 7.00 GB > Available Virtual 4.32 GB > >Take a guess how much I want to: >(a) upgrade to 64-bit Windows 7; >(b) purchase new hardware. > >The only reason I upgraded from 64-bit WinXP to 32-bit Win7 is because I got a >5TB external USB 3.0 hard drive and WinXP-32 and Win XP-64 have a 2TB >partition size limit and cannot see a drive that large (unless it's already >formatted to partitions no larger than 2TB). That and the fact that Microsoft >finally and completely dumped XP support. > >Whatever computer hardware I buy now can only be cheap used hardware at a >local computer store that specializes in selling used PCs, presumably >obsoleted out by businesses. I don't know how new your system is presently, but you ought to be able to buy a used Optiplex 960, 980 or 7010 for cheap on eBay with a 64-bit version of Win 7. I think you might even be able to grab a 64-bit Win 10 install CD from Microsoft and use your 32-bit key. Might want to research that option a bit more. >Given what you wrote, and the fact that I have no money for new computer >hardware, do you suggest: choosing the most resource-light browser I can find >
Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU
On Wed, 4 May 2016 13:10:36 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote: >SeaMonkey 2.4 (presumed 32-bit) >Windows 7 32-bit >At CMD DOS Box, ver: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] >Shockwave Flash 21.0.0.213 (as read from SeaMonkey Add-ons Manager) > >Video card (info via Speccy program): >ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570 > ManufacturerATI > Model AMD Radeon HD 6570 > GPU Turks > Device ID 1002-6759 > Subvendor Diamond (1092) > Current Performance Level Level 0 > Voltage 0.900 V > Die Size118 mm² > Release DateApr 19, 2011 > DirectX Support 11.0 > DirectX Shader Model5.0 > OpenGL Support 4.2 > GPU Clock 650.0 MHz > Temperature 52 °C > Core Voltage1.050 V > Bios Core Clock 100.00 > Bios Mem Clock 150.00 > Driver version 8.950.0.0 > BIOS Version113-930-930 > ROPs32 > Shaders 480 unified > Memory Type DDR3 > Memory 2048 MB > Pixel Fillrate 20.8 GPixels/s > Bandwidth 21.3 GB/s > >Thanks for prompt response. > >--SLMorris Since you're on a 32-bit system and some others have explained it's memory limits, you might be experiencing memory pressure issues. Meaning, you're hitting a memory ceiling and the system is starved for resources with your tabs open. These web sites might have intensive images and other resource gobbling code. If you have anything else running on your system while Firefox is running, it too will eat up memory only making the problem worse. Not much you can do. You have a 4GB system with a 2GB video card. That 4GB of system RAM works out to be about 3.1GB usable to the *whole* system. It's a 32-bit OS limitation. That 2GB video card eats up 2GB of RAM automatically for address space leaving you with 1.1GB of free RAM. If anything else is using memory, you're going to run out of free RAM quickly. Thus, experience CPU churn and hard disk swapping virtual RAM. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU
On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote: >On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-7, gobrui...@gmail.com wrote: >> > SERIOUSLY?? I thought SeaMonkey checked for updates automatically!?!? >> >> Wait... It say "no updates available" on the Help / About SeaMonkey window. >> Now what?? > >Doesn't matter when it was released, there no versions past 2.40. > >http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ The Seamonkey build and update system has been busted for quite some time now on Mozilla.org. However... Please try with 2.43 from here as it's being built by a Mozilla person on a loaner machine until they fix things properly at Mozilla.: https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/ Also read https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2340. "Adrian Kalla is still producing his localized builds. Ratty suggests that we should put out a notice on the default SM start page to tell people where they can download the latest 2.4x release builds (Mozilla-release is currently at Firefox 45 which corresponds to SeaMonkey 2.42)." - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey consumes my CPU
On Wed, 4 May 2016 12:08:55 -0700 (PDT), gobruins91...@gmail.com wrote: >Right now SeaMonkey is consuming 85% of my CPU. I am not watching any Flash >videos, I am just surfing. I have one instance of SeaMonkey running and 14 >tabs open. What version of Seamonkey? 32 or 64-bit? What version of Flash? What video card and driver version? What OS? OS is 32 or 64 bit? Need more info. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
